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Hey everyone, I was wondering, now with MM there are several new tools to save battery, which combos do you recommend?
Currently I'm using Naptime + Amplify, I ditched Greenify just for test purposes, anyone with experience that would like to share knowledge? thanks!
Are they really necessary? They may only improve standby time, personally I can notice about 1-2% drop during 10hr sleep. I'd rather you played a bit with cpu governor profiles.
caifaz said:
Hey everyone, I was wondering, now with MM there are several new tools to save battery, which combos do you recommend?
Currently I'm using Naptime + Amplify, I ditched Greenify just for test purposes, anyone with experience that would like to share knowledge? thanks!
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the most simple solution i have come across yet is 'ForceDoze', which is *very* actively worked on and works like a charm for me.
mxrider97 said:
Are they really necessary? They may only improve standby time, personally I can notice about 1-2% drop during 10hr sleep. I'd rather you played a bit with cpu governor profiles.
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this is only due to doze though, and with the way doze currently works the outcome would be very different if the phone wasn't stationary during that time
mxrider97 said:
Are they really necessary? They may only improve standby time, personally I can notice about 1-2% drop during 10hr sleep. I'd rather you played a bit with cpu governor profiles.
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do you have any recommended cpu governor profiles for saving battery?
slenderbowman said:
do you have any recommended cpu governor profiles for saving battery?
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Of course you have to look around in the forums.
@Broken303, yeah actually you're right, I forgot that doze works only if the phone is stationary.
@caifaz, for me the AmanuensisOne wins. But I'm about to apply Blazer v2.5 and give it a try for a couple of days. You have to play with it and see what appeals to you the most.
I'm sure there is a good combination of them. This is a question I too am trying to figure out the answer too.
I'm currently running CM13 and playing with ForceDoze. I'm trying to determine if that should be used in conjunction with other apps as well (ie Amplify), though they all seem to focus on dozing, so I can't see more than one being helpful. I can't tell if ForceDoze is working right or not, so I may have a couple questions for the thread.
CPU governors interest me as well, so that's another source of tweaking.
I think for me, though, the biggest problem is the apps I use are just CPU hogs, and so I don't see any tweaking helping much in that regard.
I've found that not messing with too much saves the most battery for me. I just use naptime to decrease the time until doze kicks in.
Have any of you guys tried the N preview? With the changes to doze in N, is the naptime app going to be obsolete? (Isn't n basically built in with aggressive doze?)
Edit: @franciscofranco would know about this
I am looking for a performance oriented (Zero lag in UI navigation and scrolling) kernel, I don't care about battery life. Can you guys help me out?
Thanks in advance
IPhone 7 if u want Smoothness and less lag, overtime Android OS on any phone is going to eventually lag, u can try EX kernel or blu_spark and use AKT 1.4 and use performance, u may want to read up on different profiles to fit ur preference also too there are some build.prop mods to get good scrolling too
I like these build.prop modswindowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=500
ro.max.fling_velocity=20000
ro.min.fling_velocity=18000
Wtf is this post with iPhone, you brain lag for sure mate, change it ASAP. I don't have any lags even with stock kernel. What lags are you talking about?
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If you want zero lag go for a kernal with touchboost. Franco has this nicely configured.
ElementalX overclocked and running in performance mode. Also the ROM will have something to do with the performance so maybe look into a good one. I personally cant recommend enough Resurrection Remix N.
Blu_spark with Fastlane enabled. Nothing compares if you want pure speed. Benefit is that battery life doesn't take a big hit unlike AKT 1.4 performance profiles which destroy your battery life but do offer great performance.
Xceed kernel is the best when it comes to overclocking and performance.
hello guys , need help .. using experinse os ob 14 ... which kernal is best for this rom to achive good battery life sot , stanby ?????????
elemental ?? blue spark ?? franco ?? or stock kernel ???
loveaddicated said:
hello guys , need help .. using experinse os ob 14 ... which kernal is best for this rom to achive good battery life sot , stanby ?????????
elemental ?? blue spark ?? franco ?? or stock kernel ???
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There is no kernel that magically increases your battery... Nor is there a rom that does it... Try every kernel one day and see which one fits the best for you!
Try elemental with a battery akt config for good sot
Use franco kernel with AKT ! Better than anything. AFAIK
Can someone suggest me a AKT Tweak to flash?
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Can someone suggest me a AKT Tweak to flash?
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Try them all! See which one fits.
Try them, nobody can tell you what you want.
The most common ones are bluspark, elementalX and franco.
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Try elemental with a battery akt config for good sot
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Yes ... I use elementalX with AKT and the sot is awesome
I tested AKT a while now and am back to no AKT at all due to not much gain or phone feeling like a old Galaxy S3. Rest... see my sig. I use it as work phone and thus need SPEED and SOT and both is rather fine that way.
search yourself
Just Franco, and install naptime and the Franco kernel app (paid) for further battery tweaks. And monitor your wakelocks using BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector. But there is only so much a kernel can do to save battery, also don't use AKT as it can cripple your performance.
Wait, there is a kernel for ob14
I see these terms a lot when kernels are being discussed to save battery life, can these two be used together? What are the differences? Thanks in advance for any information.
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I see these terms a lot when kernels are being discussed to save battery life, can these two be used together? What are the differences? Thanks in advance for any information.
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You really can't compare these to but.
AKT basically is changing kernel tunables in such matter that it saves battery or increases peformance depending on which the profile is ment for.. The problem is that everyone has a different usage pattern and everyone's definition of smooth and battery is different... For some Project Zhana can be really efficient and smooth while for me it is efficient/battery friendly but not as smooth.
EAS basically replaces the whole HMP part which almost every device runs now (HMP). EAS is quite new and quite experimental but really stable, you really won't notice it is experimental. EAS is a bit hard to explain for me. But if you are looking for a good user experience and the best battery life with it I would suggest you trying VertexOS.
Now correct me if I'm wrong I'm not a ****ing genius at this!
Puddi_Puddin said:
You really can't compare these to but.
AKT basically is changing kernel tunables in such matter that it saves battery or increases peformance depending on which the profile is ment for.. The problem is that everyone has a different usage pattern and everyone's definition of smooth and battery is different... For some Project Zhana can be really efficient and smooth while for me it is efficient/battery friendly but not as smooth.
EAS basically replaces the whole HMP part which almost every device runs now (HMP). EAS is quite new and quite experimental but really stable, you really won't notice it is experimental. EAS is a bit hard to explain for me. But if you are looking for a good user experience and the best battery life with it I would suggest you trying VertexOS.
Now correct me if I'm wrong I'm not a ****ing genius at this!
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Awesome! Thank you very much for the info, I understand it much better now
In my experience, I get better battery life a balanced profile on AKT (fusion balanced) on OOS. But performance is amazing on Vertex! And battery life isn't terrible, although not as good as on OOS, and it is still very usable.
Generalboii said:
In my experience, I get better battery life a balanced profile on AKT (fusion balanced) on OOS. But performance is amazing on Vertex! And battery life isn't terrible, although not as good as on OOS, and it is still very usable.
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Thanks for the insight! I currently have the official Resurrection Remix ROM for my 3T with the latest EX kernel. Battery has been inconsistent for me even with the Wakelocks blocked and a mainly black theme, but I think it has to do with the weaker signal as opposed to OOS. I assume there is a way to apply these AKT profiles in the EX kernel app and have them apply after every reboot? I would prefer to stay with Ressurection over Vertex because it already has almost every feature available, and it would be much more convenient than flashing a different ROM each time for a new feature I wanted lol (since there is no Xposed for nougat)
Generalboii said:
In my experience, I get better battery life a balanced profile on AKT (fusion balanced) on OOS. But performance is amazing on Vertex! And battery life isn't terrible, although not as good as on OOS, and it is still very usable.
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Isn't terrible? It's much better....Better battery than oos or any other nonEAS rom...try it your self...give the battery three charging cycles and enjoy.....
slamdunksaliby said:
I see these terms a lot when kernels are being discussed to save battery life, can these two be used together? What are the differences? Thanks in advance for any information.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72178689&postcount=4050
See the link posted by @juliusedward.
ELI5: Basically, EAS and HMP are way to manage tasks in a multi-core processor. HMP requires a lot a guess work and experience to get it right. EAS is, Well, smart! It gets cpu utilization and load information using WALT/PELT (it's a new topic entirely. Think of them like a function, which they honestly are.) and decides which core is perfectly suited for the current given task and at what frequency. So, it is in it's nature to be more efficient and more battery friendly. Although, through lots of tweaking and optimization in HMP kernels it's not that bad either.
I run VertexOS.
EAS seems offer better battery life, same smoothness, and less warm !
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ahepas said:
Isn't terrible? It's much better....Better battery than oos or any other nonEAS rom...try it your self...give the battery three charging cycles and enjoy.....
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Agreed !
slamdunksaliby said:
Thanks for the insight! I currently have the official Resurrection Remix ROM for my 3T with the latest EX kernel. Battery has been inconsistent for me even with the Wakelocks blocked and a mainly black theme, but I think it has to do with the weaker signal as opposed to OOS. I assume there is a way to apply these AKT profiles in the EX kernel app and have them apply after every reboot? I would prefer to stay with Ressurection over Vertex because it already has almost every feature available, and it would be much more convenient than flashing a different ROM each time for a new feature I wanted lol (since there is no Xposed for nougat)
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Try Blu spark kernel. It's my favorite kernel in terms of performance and battery life. I can get 6-7hrs screen on time consistently over 24 hours on LTE and wifi. Performance is butter smooth. And when I mean butter smooth, I mean no frame drops, no microstutters, pure 60fps smoothness. Something not a single AKT profile can provide without destroying the battery life so I wouldn't recommend them, and yes I've tried every single profile. FlashKernel is also a really nice kernel but you need to tweak the stock governor settings to get nice performance.
Haven't tried EAS, but supposedly it does its job well, very well so you can also try that out. Try vertex it has been getting high praises.
@slamdunksaliby
Please check this post here
I think it is safe to presume that it answers your question to a great considerable extent.
Hope it helps.
-TDK
P.S. AKT profiles cannot be applied on EAS, not yet.
crzykiller said:
Try Blu spark kernel. It's my favorite kernel in terms of performance and battery life. I can get 6-7hrs screen on time consistently over 24 hours on LTE and wifi. Performance is butter smooth. And when I mean butter smooth, I mean no frame drops, no microstutters, pure 60fps smoothness. Something not a single AKT profile can provide without destroying the battery life so I wouldn't recommend them, and yes I've tried every single profile. FlashKernel is also a really nice kernel but you need to tweak the stock governor settings to get nice performance.
Haven't tried EAS, but supposedly it does its job well, very well so you can also try that out. Try vertex it has been getting high praises.
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Hi I tried Blu spark for a little on sultanized resurrection remix ROM, and the battery life doesn't seem to be very good, specifically with standby as sultan's kernel seems to handle it better, are you using the stock settings or are you underclocking? What ROM are you using with the kernel? Thanks!
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Hi I tried Blu spark for a little on sultanized resurrection remix ROM, and the battery life doesn't seem to be very good, specifically with standby as sultan's kernel seems to handle it better, are you using the stock settings or are you underclocking? What ROM are you using with the kernel? Thanks!
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Well u never going to have good battery life with RR. Try another rom and u going to see better battery stats.
slamdunksaliby said:
Hi I tried Blu spark for a little on sultanized resurrection remix ROM, and the battery life doesn't seem to be very good, specifically with standby as sultan's kernel seems to handle it better, are you using the stock settings or are you underclocking? What ROM are you using with the kernel? Thanks!
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Dont blame the kernel if you have standby drain.
I also use bluspark with freedomos ce and i nearly have zero battery drain over night.
If you have too much standby drain its some third party apps, services or something that keeps your phone awake.
MarcTremonti said:
Dont blame the kernel if you have standby drain.
I also use bluspark with freedomos ce and i nearly have zero battery drain over night.
If you have too much standby drain its some third party apps, services or something that keeps your phone awake.
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You won't see much difference between kernels regarding idle drain. It's 99% apps related.
Puddi_Puddin said:
You won't see much difference between kernels regarding idle drain. It's 99% apps related.
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Thats what i was trying to say
Hello, I have a Mi A2 Lite with Android Pie (February update), I just wanted to ask which ROM has the best battery life for daisy, I prefer battery over performance.
I had a phone in which it's battery was great with Android KitKat but sucked on Lollipop (performance of the device was also worse)
Is this the case for the Mi A2 Lite? Is better to just use Oreo? Or another custom ROM? Thank you!.
Stock Oreo will be best battery life, easily 2 days worth of battery backup easily, unless you do heavy gaming
Ofc, u can always root to underclock to get more battery out
Since it is an Android one phone, stock firmware is always preferable. I would not say the same if it was Samsung phone though
Thanks for both answers! I will stick to Android One then, however Oreo has external storage app bugged so I can't use my SD Card... I'm stuck on Pie then (tried the ROM).
I hope Android Q can bring the battery life of Oreo with Pie "improvements".
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Stock Oreo will be best battery life, easily 2 days worth of battery backup easily, unless you do heavy gaming
Ofc, u can always root to underclock to get more battery out
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I was considering doing that, I wanted to disable 4 cores and downclock to 1.2GHz, but I'm not sure on how to do it, I think I need a custom kernel, but aside of that I don't know what else I need, would you mind telling me what app or what is what I need to undervolt? Thanks in advance!.
Trie greenify without root, i get 7 hrs of SOT 2 days standby on Pie stock februari
I found those two apps, Naptime and ForceDoze, I think I get better results on ForceDoze, but Naptime you can get from the Play Store. It puts the device in the deep sleep right after the screen is off.
Oh OK! Thank you, will try greenify (however I have root, so I don't mind using with root functions) and ForceDoze! I will wait for a answer in undervolting and underclocking the CPU but I will do that for now. I remember that there was another app that was a xposed module called Amplify but I ended up breaking many things of my old phone with that, so I think that I will not use it for now.