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Ive tried a few and they alll seem to be fairly decent. I woud like one that has good battery life and good performance when I need it. I also wanted it to be stable and have no random restarts or dropped signals.
I would like to know what you think is the best kernel for me that gives me these; I dont need any of the extra features, just good battery life and performance.
THanks in advance.
I've tried different ones and the best one that works for me is the franco.kernel and Eclipse rom. Simple yet great on battery live.
If it helps, I'm using GSM Liquid Smooth ROM. The ROM came with the latest Franco nightly but it doesn't seem as good on battery life as MS4 was. Is there a huge difference between wheatley and interactive?
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Yes. Wheatley lets your phone idle when you are using it for less intensive tasks.
Also, There is no best rom or kernel. No one but YOU can determine what is best for YOUR usage and YOUR device.. Just try them all.
joshnichols189 said:
Yes. Wheatley lets your phone idle when you are using it for less intensive tasks.
Also, There is no best rom or kernel. No one but YOU can determine what is best for YOUR usage and YOUR device.. Just try them all.
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But wheatley seems.. not finished, to say the least.
I have an acceptable battery time with the latest GLaDOS kernel, with standard clock frequencies and using interactive as governor. That governor seriously has never failed me.
I see these terms a lot when kernels are being discussed to save battery life, can these two be used together? What are the differences? Thanks in advance for any information.
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I see these terms a lot when kernels are being discussed to save battery life, can these two be used together? What are the differences? Thanks in advance for any information.
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You really can't compare these to but.
AKT basically is changing kernel tunables in such matter that it saves battery or increases peformance depending on which the profile is ment for.. The problem is that everyone has a different usage pattern and everyone's definition of smooth and battery is different... For some Project Zhana can be really efficient and smooth while for me it is efficient/battery friendly but not as smooth.
EAS basically replaces the whole HMP part which almost every device runs now (HMP). EAS is quite new and quite experimental but really stable, you really won't notice it is experimental. EAS is a bit hard to explain for me. But if you are looking for a good user experience and the best battery life with it I would suggest you trying VertexOS.
Now correct me if I'm wrong I'm not a ****ing genius at this!
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You really can't compare these to but.
AKT basically is changing kernel tunables in such matter that it saves battery or increases peformance depending on which the profile is ment for.. The problem is that everyone has a different usage pattern and everyone's definition of smooth and battery is different... For some Project Zhana can be really efficient and smooth while for me it is efficient/battery friendly but not as smooth.
EAS basically replaces the whole HMP part which almost every device runs now (HMP). EAS is quite new and quite experimental but really stable, you really won't notice it is experimental. EAS is a bit hard to explain for me. But if you are looking for a good user experience and the best battery life with it I would suggest you trying VertexOS.
Now correct me if I'm wrong I'm not a ****ing genius at this!
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Awesome! Thank you very much for the info, I understand it much better now
In my experience, I get better battery life a balanced profile on AKT (fusion balanced) on OOS. But performance is amazing on Vertex! And battery life isn't terrible, although not as good as on OOS, and it is still very usable.
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In my experience, I get better battery life a balanced profile on AKT (fusion balanced) on OOS. But performance is amazing on Vertex! And battery life isn't terrible, although not as good as on OOS, and it is still very usable.
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Thanks for the insight! I currently have the official Resurrection Remix ROM for my 3T with the latest EX kernel. Battery has been inconsistent for me even with the Wakelocks blocked and a mainly black theme, but I think it has to do with the weaker signal as opposed to OOS. I assume there is a way to apply these AKT profiles in the EX kernel app and have them apply after every reboot? I would prefer to stay with Ressurection over Vertex because it already has almost every feature available, and it would be much more convenient than flashing a different ROM each time for a new feature I wanted lol (since there is no Xposed for nougat)
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In my experience, I get better battery life a balanced profile on AKT (fusion balanced) on OOS. But performance is amazing on Vertex! And battery life isn't terrible, although not as good as on OOS, and it is still very usable.
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Isn't terrible? It's much better....Better battery than oos or any other nonEAS rom...try it your self...give the battery three charging cycles and enjoy.....
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I see these terms a lot when kernels are being discussed to save battery life, can these two be used together? What are the differences? Thanks in advance for any information.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72178689&postcount=4050
See the link posted by @juliusedward.
ELI5: Basically, EAS and HMP are way to manage tasks in a multi-core processor. HMP requires a lot a guess work and experience to get it right. EAS is, Well, smart! It gets cpu utilization and load information using WALT/PELT (it's a new topic entirely. Think of them like a function, which they honestly are.) and decides which core is perfectly suited for the current given task and at what frequency. So, it is in it's nature to be more efficient and more battery friendly. Although, through lots of tweaking and optimization in HMP kernels it's not that bad either.
I run VertexOS.
EAS seems offer better battery life, same smoothness, and less warm !
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Isn't terrible? It's much better....Better battery than oos or any other nonEAS rom...try it your self...give the battery three charging cycles and enjoy.....
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Agreed !
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Thanks for the insight! I currently have the official Resurrection Remix ROM for my 3T with the latest EX kernel. Battery has been inconsistent for me even with the Wakelocks blocked and a mainly black theme, but I think it has to do with the weaker signal as opposed to OOS. I assume there is a way to apply these AKT profiles in the EX kernel app and have them apply after every reboot? I would prefer to stay with Ressurection over Vertex because it already has almost every feature available, and it would be much more convenient than flashing a different ROM each time for a new feature I wanted lol (since there is no Xposed for nougat)
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Try Blu spark kernel. It's my favorite kernel in terms of performance and battery life. I can get 6-7hrs screen on time consistently over 24 hours on LTE and wifi. Performance is butter smooth. And when I mean butter smooth, I mean no frame drops, no microstutters, pure 60fps smoothness. Something not a single AKT profile can provide without destroying the battery life so I wouldn't recommend them, and yes I've tried every single profile. FlashKernel is also a really nice kernel but you need to tweak the stock governor settings to get nice performance.
Haven't tried EAS, but supposedly it does its job well, very well so you can also try that out. Try vertex it has been getting high praises.
@slamdunksaliby
Please check this post here
I think it is safe to presume that it answers your question to a great considerable extent.
Hope it helps.
-TDK
P.S. AKT profiles cannot be applied on EAS, not yet.
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Try Blu spark kernel. It's my favorite kernel in terms of performance and battery life. I can get 6-7hrs screen on time consistently over 24 hours on LTE and wifi. Performance is butter smooth. And when I mean butter smooth, I mean no frame drops, no microstutters, pure 60fps smoothness. Something not a single AKT profile can provide without destroying the battery life so I wouldn't recommend them, and yes I've tried every single profile. FlashKernel is also a really nice kernel but you need to tweak the stock governor settings to get nice performance.
Haven't tried EAS, but supposedly it does its job well, very well so you can also try that out. Try vertex it has been getting high praises.
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Hi I tried Blu spark for a little on sultanized resurrection remix ROM, and the battery life doesn't seem to be very good, specifically with standby as sultan's kernel seems to handle it better, are you using the stock settings or are you underclocking? What ROM are you using with the kernel? Thanks!
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Hi I tried Blu spark for a little on sultanized resurrection remix ROM, and the battery life doesn't seem to be very good, specifically with standby as sultan's kernel seems to handle it better, are you using the stock settings or are you underclocking? What ROM are you using with the kernel? Thanks!
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Well u never going to have good battery life with RR. Try another rom and u going to see better battery stats.
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Hi I tried Blu spark for a little on sultanized resurrection remix ROM, and the battery life doesn't seem to be very good, specifically with standby as sultan's kernel seems to handle it better, are you using the stock settings or are you underclocking? What ROM are you using with the kernel? Thanks!
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Dont blame the kernel if you have standby drain.
I also use bluspark with freedomos ce and i nearly have zero battery drain over night.
If you have too much standby drain its some third party apps, services or something that keeps your phone awake.
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Dont blame the kernel if you have standby drain.
I also use bluspark with freedomos ce and i nearly have zero battery drain over night.
If you have too much standby drain its some third party apps, services or something that keeps your phone awake.
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You won't see much difference between kernels regarding idle drain. It's 99% apps related.
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You won't see much difference between kernels regarding idle drain. It's 99% apps related.
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Thats what i was trying to say
I play 3d games with my z2 (mortal Kombat x and Injustice 2 in particular). I'm not really familiar with kernel tweaking and overclocking and I actually don't want to be.
I'm out on a search for a custom ROM for this device that has the smoothest performance for 3d gaming with the highest battery efficiency. The best ROM in those terms i have tried, was cosmicOS 7.1.1 on which i had 6h SOT with 2h of high smoothness 3d gaming (when it went 7.1.2 those perks were lost though).
I have tried almost every ROM out there and i didn't find something to amaze me (but of course many of them were tried on previous builds and i can't switch ROMs every time one of them gets updated)
I'm currently on ViperOS which satisfied me in terms of customzation and performance but not that much for its battery life and maintenance has also stopped.
So.. any 3d gamers out there have any suggestions?
Update: After flashing AEX 4.4 i can say all my needs are covered. The versions before had a heating issue, some battery drain and some lagging on 3d games. These aren't there any more.
It's now the most satisfying ROM out there and on a high speed race towards perfection since everything else is smooth like butter too.
I got 5h sot with 1:30h of 3d gaming.
If anyone's having the same expectations don't hesitate for a second, go ahead for AEX
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Update: After flashing AEX 4.4 i can say all my needs are covered. The versions before had a heating issue, some battery drain and some lagging on 3d games. These aren't there any more.
It's now the most satisfying ROM out there and on a high speed race towards perfection since everything else is smooth like butter too.
I got 5h sot with 1:30h of 3d gaming.
If anyone's having the same expectations don't hesitate for a second, go ahead for AEX
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Stock kernel?
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Stock kernel?
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Stock kernel.
Using only greenify with agressive doze feature on. Nothing else
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Stock kernel.
Using only greenify with agressive doze feature on. Nothing else
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Ok thanks
I am on latest ZUI(haven't unlocked yet) and play Marvel future fight a LOT...3-4 hours minimum and have to recharge the phone twice in 24 hours. Performance is so-so, sometimes would lag but rectify itself after game restart. Heats a lot. I tried the overclock feature in ZUI which increases heat beyond comfort but doesn't add anything to performance.
why dont you try to use AKT profiles? You can find a reasonable performance profile when play games, then set it to powersaving when not playing
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why dont you try to use AKT profiles? You can find a reasonable performance profile when play games, then set it to powersaving when not playing
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I'm not really fond of tweaking. I believe they cause higher drain than they should when on performance and higher laggyness than they should when on powersave.
Besides, i don't find it handy to change AKT all the time, i'll most of the time forget about it
Thank you though!
Any update? I finally sold my LG G5 and decided to unlock ZUK 2's bootloader. My requirements are same as OP except I want best of audio quality too. So AEX is the ROM to go for and install ARISE?
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Any update? I finally sold my LG G5 and decided to unlock ZUK 2's bootloader. My requirements are same as OP except I want best of audio quality too. So AEX is the ROM to go for and install ARISE?
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AEX 4.5 is dope. There has to be something major for it to lose first place among the others
Ok, i have to update this.
ViperOS 3.0 came out and it's 3d gaming performance is astonishing. Its battery consumption while using is great too. This build doesn't go into deep sleep but, if it's fixed with an update, it will become exactly the ROM for 3d gamers.
AEX EAS unofficial is also Released (which i'm using currently and not changing easily) and it's, for me, perfect. Great battery, amazing smoothness and response, bugless and with much higher performance on 3d gaming than official AEX.
My opinion on 3d gaming is based upon performance on Mortal Kombat X and Injustice 2. Injustice 2 is exactly on the verge when I switch ROMs. Some let it run smoothly and some make it cut frames. Those two let the phone run it really smoothly (with ViperOS being just a shred better)
i faced lags in 8 ball pool with viper 3 aex 4.5 and some other roms out there ...atomic os was the best for me in terms of gaming and battery life but didn't have the camera updated so now back to official stock zui.
I installed AEX, it's much smoother than stock but ANTUTU score is lower than stock. Backup is not as good as stock either. Marvel future fight even at lowest settings cut frames.
I installed 3.5 citrus from miju12 and never actually left it. The 3d gaming performance combined with no heat and good battery is incomparable.
I've tried RR, jaguar, aex and pixel experience from oreo but nothing satisfied me.
Can anyone share an Oreo ROM to play some games?
in gaming performance most oreo roms do the job fine
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I installed 3.5 citrus from miju12 and never actually left it. The 3d gaming performance combined with no heat and good battery is incomparable.
I've tried RR, jaguar, aex and pixel experience from oreo but nothing satisfied me.
Can anyone share an Oreo ROM to play some games?
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Give a try to AOSIP latest build.
Anyone playing PUBG?
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Anyone playing PUBG?
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me am on aex 5.3 stock kernel no mod .. temprature rise to 47 c there is heating absolutly i use cpu thermometer to monitor heating
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I installed 3.5 citrus from miju12 and never actually left it. The 3d gaming performance combined with no heat and good battery is incomparable.
I've tried RR, jaguar, aex and pixel experience from oreo but nothing satisfied me.
Can anyone share an Oreo ROM to play some games?
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Yes, flashed this rom, no heating, smooth, good battery, awesome gaming, was looking for this type of great rom. Thanks!
Please anyone can suggest best ROM with great battery life and good performance and no heating (tired of heating issue)?
Kernel Tweaks and custom kernel suggestions will also be preferable.
Thank you
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Please anyone can suggest best ROM with great battery life and good performance and no heating (tired of heating issue)
Kernel Tweaks and custom kernel suggestions will also be preferable.
Thank you
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Try AEX 24th July build for starters. Then move on as per research & development.
Along with AEX ... U can try AOSPG ROM... Best SOT out there and good performance too
Flash Jaguar kernel in both the cases for extra sweetness
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Try AEX 24th July build for starters. Then move on as per research & development.
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Tried AEX 24th July build, AICP, Cosmic OS, Pure Nexus but in every ROM I'm facing heating issue some ROM have good performance with less battery life and some have good battery life but weak performance.
Currently using viper os with Jaguar kernel. Antutu score is just 110000.
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Along with AEX ... U can try AOSPG ROM... Best SOT out there and good performance too
Flash Jaguar kernel in both the cases for extra sweetness
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Which version of AOSPG and kernel?
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Which version of AOSPG and kernel?
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The latest one of AOSGP available right now .. i guess the 20 august build.. If you are using AEX 24 july build.. Use July version of the jaguar kernel... or if using the AOSGP latest version.. use 13 August version of jaguar kernel
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Please anyone can suggest best ROM with great battery life and good performance and no heating (tired of heating issue)?
Kernel Tweaks and custom kernel suggestions will also be preferable.
Thank you
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Go for citrus CAF 3.5
Thank you for your support
Using AOSGP-X with Jaguar kernel. No heating issues. Underclocked to 1.92GHz battery life is great. Performance is also good.
Pardon me for being a noob, what does it mean to switch kernels and how dangerous that is? I thought it would be better to choose ROM and stick to kernel bundled in the same package. I'm willing to explore if difference is noticeable.
AEX is the best with stock kernel.
Gives Everytime 6:30-7:00 hrs of SOT with YouTube chrome movies texting calling and gaming.
Use greenify.
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Pardon me for being a noob, what does it mean to switch kernels and how dangerous that is? I thought it would be better to choose ROM and stick to kernel bundled in the same package. I'm willing to explore if difference is noticeable.
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Kernel is the bridge between the software & the hardware, it is a fairly simple process to change kernels, you simply have to flash the zip from the recovery. Read thoughrouly about the kernel you wish to flash, if it gives any extra features you would like then proceed
AEX 4.6 + Heliox 1709
I get 6+ hrs of SOT and the deep sleep is always around 97%.
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AEX 4.6 + Heliox 1709
I get 6+ hrs of SOT and the deep sleep is always around 97%.
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Getting the same SOT with the Stock AEX Kernel.
No Rom is good for this phone here...i dont understand what's going on! is this some kinda race?, isn't it a devs job to complete the project before he/she moves on to the next one?
On one hand, we have 7.1.2 with so many bugs yet to be fixed in most of the roms, but these so called "devs" just abandon the project and run away to fix oreo which has 100 times more bugs than the prev ones.
It just goes to prove that there's no guarantee Oreo will be completely stabilized before you move on to Android P, there's no purpose for people to choose custom ROMs, instead we can stick with the stock...
On the other hand, I see devs fighting in each others thread....ridiculous!
Trust me, 90% of the rom can be build in short period of time, anyone can take the source code and build a rom, yes i said it, anyone can do it....but only a proper dev can build a stable, bugless rom...the remaining 10% is the pain in the ass...
I request every dev developing ROMS for this phone to complete your project before you move on to oreo...
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Using AOSGP-X with Jaguar kernel. No heating issues. Underclocked to 1.92GHz battery life is great. Performance is also good.
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Hi can you share details of your setup? and some detailed review of how it is working as daily driver. I am interested in this underclocked low heat setup.
saurav_k said:
Hi can you share details of your setup? and some detailed review of how it is working as daily driver. I am interested in this underclocked low heat setup.
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Here it is!
CPU Big - Max-1920Mhz, Min-307Mhz
CPU Little - Max-1593 or 1766, Min-307Mhz
CPU Governer - Impulse
GPU Max - 624Mhz, Min - 133Mhz
Governer - simple_ondemand
Bettery - USB Fast Charge On
I/O Scheduler - Noop
All settings Apply on boot
Also using greenify to hibernate apps
Battery profile - Efficiency
Hope this helps you! :laugh:
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Here it is!
CPU Big - Max-1920Mhz, Min-307Mhz
CPU Little - Max-1593 or 1766, Min-307Mhz
CPU Governer - Impulse
GPU Max - 624Mhz, Min - 133Mhz
Governer - simple_ondemand
Bettery - USB Fast Charge On
I/O Scheduler - Noop
All settings Apply on boot
Also using greenify to hibernate apps
Battery profile - Efficiency
Hope this helps you! :laugh:
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Can you point me to the correct thread for this ROM. Can't seem to find the official one. Is it still in UNOFFICIAL status?
Also, does this ROM comes with CAF kernel? I see it mentioned in the change log in the ROM thread.
Also, I don't see any mention of underclock on the ROM thread. Did you underclock it yourself?
If so, will underclocking in AEX ROM give similar benefit of less heating?
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Can you point me to the correct thread for this ROM. Can't seem to find the official one. Is it still in UNOFFICIAL status?
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Here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/development/rom-aosgp-t3659642
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Here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/development/rom-aosgp-t3659642
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Thanks. Uopdated my post above. Can you help with other queries in the post also.
Omkar Modgi said:
Here it is!
CPU Big - Max-1920Mhz, Min-307Mhz
CPU Little - Max-1593 or 1766, Min-307Mhz
CPU Governer - Impulse
GPU Max - 624Mhz, Min - 133Mhz
Governer - simple_ondemand
Bettery - USB Fast Charge On
I/O Scheduler - Noop
All settings Apply on boot
Also using greenify to hibernate apps
Battery profile - Efficiency
Hope this helps you! :laugh:
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How did you underclock the ROM? Using kernel auditor or it is underclocked by default or has some option to do so?
I've compiled Resurrection Remix with over clocked CPU (@2.2ghz) and GPU (@800mhz) and it's not that much of an improvement. I'd say PUBG runs little better now and some improvement in benchmarks. Well, I wasn't expecting miracles either but let me know if anyone wants an over clocked ROM or kernel. I am trying to add exfat support (I'd be happy if any devs can help me with that) as many user wants but I'm getting nowhere for now.
I can even take it to next level with CPU @2.4ghz and GPU @850mhz but I think that would be overkill.
I'm interested
How is the battery life?
Pitagoras2000 said:
I'm interested
How is the battery life?
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I think it's little less than the stock ROM but now it depletes faster while gaming (as gaming pushes all cores to max).
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I think it's little less than the stock ROM but now it depletes faster while gaming (as gaming pushes all cores to max).
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Nice. That kernel would be great to VR
Well , good idea is to make only OC kernel and then setup it via kerenel audiutor eg. -- OC @ gpu would be nice because it is weakest part of MZP . I've just made benchmark on stock oreo antutu 7.1.3 = 75716 pts. while on latest Cosmos 3.2 rom result was 81703 pts.
i would be interested in a undervolting one
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i would be interested in a undervolting one
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Yeah, that would be interested. I was playing wirh that, I think it was, Atrix time... Don't expect miracles but could add a bit to battery life. And a bit more in freezing the phone or crashing the apps
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Zeljko1234 said:
Yeah, that would be interested. I was playing wirh that, I think it was, Atrix time... Don't expect miracles but could add a bit to battery life. And a bit more in freezing the phone or crashing the apps
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Under volting is not a good idea, it creates a lot of issues. To increase battery life use smart pixels, build prop tweaks and also amplify and greenify. However for screen on time, lowering resolution and smart pixels are best options.
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Well , good idea is to make only OC kernel and then setup it via kerenel audiutor eg. -- OC @ gpu would be nice because it is weakest part of MZP . I've just made benchmark on stock oreo antutu 7.1.3 = 75716 pts. while on latest Cosmos 3.2 rom result was 81703 pts.
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Yeah, nice idea
I think stock runs on 8.0 while Cosmos on 8.1 so that might've improved it somewhat,
I wish if there was some tweak to OC GPU of normal ROM.
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I've compiled Resurrection Remix with over clocked CPU (@2.2ghz) and GPU (@800mhz) and it's not that much of an improvement. I'd say PUBG runs little better now and some improvement in benchmarks. Well, I wasn't expecting miracles either but let me know if anyone wants an over clocked ROM or kernel. I am trying to add exfat support (I'd be happy if any devs can help me with that) as many user wants but I'm getting nowhere for now.
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I think a kernel with overclocking possibilities would be nice. In fact, what I would really love was to see a port of Elemental X or Blu Spark kernels.