OP 5T or huawei mate 10 pro - OnePlus 5T Questions & Answers

Hi,
so i want to buy a new phone with a price around 400€.
It has to have an oled display, 80%+ screen to body, and a relatively good camera.
Wireless charging and headphone jack would be nice.
I do not really care about a notch (to be honest dont understand why it bothers ppl because you can ture it off) and a micro sd slot.
This two phones seem kinda similar also the ratings do.
What would you choose?
I also considered the lg v30 but i dont feel like it can hold up to this two. Oh and if the OP6 should drop to 400-450 i'll absolutly take it because it is clearly better but i dont think this is gonna happen too soon
Thanks

only depends when you want or not root and mos your phone
because with rooting the 5T is better in every single aspect
except that the mate 10 has a louder speaker

Bomber293 said:
Hi,
so i want to buy a new phone with a price around 400€.
It has to have an oled display, 80%+ screen to body, and a relatively good camera.
Wireless charging and headphone jack would be nice.
I do not really care about a notch (to be honest dont understand why it bothers ppl because you can ture it off) and a micro sd slot.
This two phones seem kinda similar also the ratings do.
What would you choose?
I also considered the lg v30 but i dont feel like it can hold up to this two. Oh and if the OP6 should drop to 400-450 i'll absolutly take it because it is clearly better but i dont think this is gonna happen too soon
Thanks
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Timely updates (including security) and community support (longer software support)? = OnePlus
Huawei is miles behind in this matter. But if you don't care about security, new software features and optimizations, then from a hardware point of view Mate 10 Pro seems better.

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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Note 7, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The phone feels really good in the hand. The only reason I didn't give it 5 stars is the worry I have with the scratches.
I love my Note 7 so much! The build quality is exceptional and the display is truly stunning. its just so immersive.
Made a little quick look video about it
Alright, alright. I had to create an account after reading several critiques and complaints on this forum. I'm sure a lot of people that are considering buying the phone will be popping in and reading the very same complaints while considering their purchase. The purpose of this thread is to clear up said complaints, from my own personal experience.
First of all, I'd like to ensure you all who haven't bought the phone yet that you absolutely have to buy it and experience it for yourself before making any decision. After all, you usually have 14 days to return it. I say this because, while the phone is not "perfect" as many here on this forum have pointed out, it is probably one of the most aesthetically pleasing phones I've ever laid eyes on, and feels incredibly comfortable in the hand. Pictures DO NOT do this phone justice, and the overflowing screen, combined with the size and weight of the phone, gives an overwhelming feeling of vibrancy when holding/viewing.
(Cost) The phone is expensive, yes, but there's a reason for that: it's a top tier smartphone. If you haven't gotten used to a hefty price tag yet, then you must not have been in the market for long. If you can't afford it, get a OnePlus 3, but I can guarantee you it wont be as fine an experience. Most cell phone companies offer financing, anyway. Meaning, you make a small monthly payment for the phone itself over the course of the 1-2 years you'll be using it anyway, and if you decide to, you simply cancel service and pay the phone off. Most companies will then give you an unlock code, and the phone is then yours to do what you please with it, or bring it to another service provider. Either way, every dime you pay while financing brings you closer to owning it, if you decide not to buy it outright. I personally will probably just pay mine off when the price tag gets down to about $400 dollars.
(Delicacy or Lack Thereof) As I stated in the introduction, the phone is thin, comfortable, feels great in the hand, but the overflowing screen gives it a very large & vibrant appearance even though it doesn't FEEL that large in the hand. Does this mean it feels delicate and fragile? Not at all. Now that's not to say you wouldn't WANT to drop it, but for the most part, it's easy to handle, has the perfect weight to it, and doesn't feel fragile by any means. This phone is NOT going to scratch/break in your pocket, unless you're mashing your legs into the sharp edges of tables or falling onto it, or for whatever reason like to keep sharp objects in the same pocket as your phone. It's NOT going to scratch by simply setting it down on a table, or having it slide in between the seats of your car.
This brings me down to a point I've emphasized before: If you're going to buy a $900 phone? DO... not... drop it! I mean, honestly, lets be real here guys: accidents DO happen. However, it's those of us who are incredibly careful, who are capable of owning phones like these. If you're someone who is very clumsy, careless, active, etc., perhaps NO phone of this design type is meant for you. That is not the fault of the manufacturers. There are many phone manufacturers who build phones designed for DURABILITY. My last Galaxy, which wasn't exactly designed for durability, lasted me 2 FULL YEARS however, and has never been dropped once, nor does it have a single scratch. This phone IS durable though- it's durable for a phone of THIS make, this design, and trust me... this is a stylish designer phone, it simply is not an ACTIVE phone. If you want to turn it INTO an ACTIVE phone? Buy a damn Otterbox Defender. When you're hiking/rock climbing/playing basketball, whatever- you're going to have an ACTIVE Note 7 phone. Then when you're doing some casual driving, sitting at a desk, sitting anywhere at home really, at dinner with friends, or pretty much doing anything that's non-active, pop it out of it's case. You'll then, once again, have the nicest phone that anyone's ever laid eyes on.
To summarize the above, be a responsible phone owner, and you'll be fine. If you can't handle the responsibility of owning such an expensive product that was designed to be durable while keeping a fantastic overall appearance, don't buy it. You can't fault manufacturers for your lack of care.
(Battery Life) I've owned this phone for a little while now, and I've charged it approximately one and a half times (by a half, I mean plugged it in at 40-50% before leaving the house) per day. I keep High Accuracy GPS on, I keep brightness at 85-95%, I keep a multicolor 'Always On' display up, I have the "screen off" time set to 3 minutes, I have HD quality wallpapers for home & lock screens, and I keep WiFi on. I have yet to use any of the battery saver modes or capabilities. During the first few days of owning this phone, I would install back to back programs, take 15+ pictures while playing around with the different camera & video settings, record videos of my screen, experiment with the S pen, experiment with different mobile games, set up setting after setting, security feature after security feature, experiment with high quality video, stream YouTube & Netflix movies, the list goes on and on and I'm sure anyone who's ever owned a new phone knows exactly what I'm talking about.
During these times, my battery would last approximately 9 hours before falling to 20% or below. That's EXTREME HEAVY use, with battery draining functions, brightness, and high resolution screens, and no power saving whatsoever giving me 9 hours of use without even falling into critical battery levels. When I get down to around 20%, I plug it in and it takes about 40-50 minutes to charge back to 100%. If my battery is at 30% or higher, I simply plug it in and it's charged in 30-40 minutes or less. I have ONCE allowed my phone to fall below 10%, and it took no longer than one hour to charge to 100%. So yes, the battery is EXTREMELY good, and it charges extremely fast.
(Fingerprints) This phone will have fingerprints on it within just a few minutes of use, however, they are hardly noticeable unless you're actually looking for them. Once it gets marked up really heavily, which only takes about two hours of use to happen, it becomes a little more noticeable at a glance, but still, you have to be UP CLOSE to the phone to even notice. Now, I have EXTREME OCD, so this should bother me a lot more, right? No, it doesn't. What I do is keep 2 microfiber towels- one on my desk(where I spend a lot of my time) and one in my car. Whenever I pick up my phone after an extended period of non-use, I simply wipe it with the dry towel(takes 15 seconds) and viola- it looks like it JUST came out of the box again... brand new. When going somewhere, I do a quick wipe of the phone before exiting my vehicle- and viola. Brand new looking phone sitting in my pocket wherever I'm going. The gorgeous material of this phone is a worthy sacrifice for some barely noticeable fingerprints that can easily be rectified. Oh, by the way. BECAUSE of the material the phone is made of, it is MUCH EASIER to clean with said microfiber towels than the older plastic models, such as the S4. That one took at lot more scrubbing and hitting specific areas, and would also get smudge marks from the fingerprints being "wiped in" by the cloth, that were almost impossible to get rid of.
(The "oh so" Awful Speaker) This is one of the biggest critiques the phone has received, by both people on this forum, and review videos/articles/websites all across the interwebz. And I? I just don't see it. The speaker, to me, is LOUD. Now, it's not booming, bass boosted music cube quality, however... it is loud enough to where I could easily hear it ringing(depending on the ringtone) from across the house in another room. It's also loud enough to where I could play a video, turn the volume to max, set it about 50 feet away, and still hear it vividly. Also, I love the quality of the sound. It doesn't sound cheap, or poor at all to me. Non-speaker voice sound is crystal clear through this during calls. Sometimes if you hold the phone a certain way, you can block off the speaker since it's on the bottom, muffling the sound. However, muscle memory allowed me to quickly get used to preventing this after the very first time it happened. I never have a problem with the speaker being on the bottom, outside of the fact that I slightly prefer the headphone jack being on the top.
(Performance) Mentions of slow loading, TouchWiz lag, etc on this thread, I have yet to experience once. TouchWiz also has a much better interface now, especially after downloading a free theme that I liked. TouchWiz does not lag at all for me. Nothing on this phone loads "slowly" for me. I did a screen-record video of myself navigating different apps, games, etc on my phone, and literally sh** was opening within milliseconds of each tap, minus games, which, depending on the size/type of game, would take just a few seconds. I see no "slowness" in this phone whatsoever. There's literally not even delays between navigating pages on Facebook, switching from Facebook to YouTube and then from YouTube to Gmail and then from Gmail to a video on my phone. If I were to do all these app switches and loads in order of what I just listed, it would take no more than the time it takes me to open the Edge screen and tap the different apps. Game-play on games such as Mage and Minions is fluid, without noticeable frame drops, and without lag.
(Fingerprint & Iris Scanners) Fingerprint scanner works perfectly if you actually use it right, i.e., gently place your *entire* fingertip over the button. The iris scanner is not perfect, but it works 95% of the time and is FAST... VERY FAST when it does work. If you're looking for a "more secure" method of locking your phone- that's what it's for. It is supposed to be much more secure than the fingerprint scanner, and it's very fast as long as you do it right. Like, I'm talking, sometimes I don't even have time to see the "eye circles" appear on the screen. It just unlocks in a millisecond, as I'm already holding the phone in the correct position upon swiping up. Now, if you wear glasses or contacts, just skip the iris scanner. It is not 100% necessity, by any means, and your phone can be secured with simply the fingerprint scanner or a complex password. Not the end of the world.
Now, I do not consider myself to be a "Samsung fanboy," nor a "Galaxy fanboy." I do not dislike Apple Products outside of the fact that I think they're just a tad highly priced in comparison to Samsung(I know, the difference is becoming very slight, but even still). My wife has the 6s Plus, and it's a great phone. I do not work for Samsung, I do not work for any cell phone company at all, I am not paid to write any of the above. This was simply my unbiased response/personal review of the Note 7, that I was inclined to write after seeing so many negative comments on this thread in addition to a lot of misinformation. I WANT others to get the same experience I'm getting with my Note 7, and frankly, not be discouraged by others. So there you go.
Ace Ryan said:
If you haven't gotten used to a hefty price tag yet, then you must not have been in the market for long. If you can't afford it, get a OnePlus 3, but I can guarantee you it wont be as fine an experience.
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
radioraheem2 said:
i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
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Eh, I'm not attempting to justify it so much as I am saying "it is what it is, and that there are affordable options for those who can't just buy the phone outright. For everyone else, and for those who do not care for the added specs, then there are a wide range of options out there. No doubt, the OnePlus 3 is a great phone for the price, and a good alternative for those who don't want to shell out the extra expenses. It is very much comparable in many ways, but as you said yourself, the Note 7 is better. I am, however, questioning the legitimacy of your statement that you own both phones after you stated your doubt as to people being able to tell the difference between 1080p and the display of the Note. Almost so much so, that I'd be willing to bet you're just a OnePlus3 owner. Maybe I just have good eyesight, but the HUGE difference between the phenomenal display of the Note 7 and the OnePlus 3 when put side to side was what made me go with the Note 7. Also, I can't speak for everyone, but I've owned this phone for a while now and have not experienced a single blip of lag. Then again, I don't use search functions for apps or settings due to the fact that I have a custom layout that has everything very easily accessible with a swipe and a click.
In terms of camera quality, yes, the OnePlus 3 barely falls behind. However, speed of focus, dark lighting, things like that, the Note 7 camera wins hands down.
Ace Ryan said:
I am, however, questioning the legitimacy of your statement that you own both phones after you stated your doubt as to people being able to tell the difference between 1080p and the display of the Note. Almost so much so, that I'd be willing to bet you're just a OnePlus3 owner.
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Wow, Ryan, you're straight out calling me a liar on here when I typed a pretty reasonable response? How old are you, 14? anyway, i'd advice you stop making so many bad bets, cause you'd go broke.
radioraheem2 said:
Wow, Ryan, you're straight out calling me a liar on here when I typed a pretty reasonable response? How old are you, 14? anyway, i'd advice you stop making so many bad bets, cause you'd go broke.
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I is that the p9 plus?
This phone is the best in 2016. Full of useful options and performance is awesome with a fantastic build quality
vodovodo said:
I is that the p9 plus?
This phone is the best in 2016. Full of useful options and performance is awesome with a fantastic build quality
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Hi voodoo, yes that is a p9 plus. I like it a lot too, though, the note 7's rounded corners feels so much more comfy in my hands than the square edges of p9 plus.
I love mine! Completely happy with it. I feel like I got one of the better built ones? No light leaks, call quality is amazing compared to my iPhone 6, Note 4 N910W8, LG G4 and S5. Battery life a astonishing! Was out for 14 hours yesterday and had the screen on auto brightness 80-90% most of the time and an hour of Pokemon Go (brought my power bank in case never got to use it) at the end of the day it was still at 62%! Lol! I dont know if thats normal but I'm happy.
Edit:
Just finish Antutu 3D and got a 133565 score which is not bad for me. maybe its because I came from a note 4 my expectations are way low lol.
Love
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radioraheem2 said:
Hi voodoo, yes that is a p9 plus. I like it a lot too, though, the note 7's rounded corners feels so much more comfy in my hands than the square edges of p9 plus.
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I own a p9 plus also at moment and I love it, nevertheless the Note 7 is interesting for me.
Can you comment more on the differences?
I tried many devices and as I live in an area with poor reception one of the best things is that the p9 has absolutely unparalleled reception quality - also compared to the S7 Edge ...
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OnkelAlbert said:
I own a p9 plus also at moment and I love it, nevertheless the Note 7 is interesting for me.
Can you comment more on the differences?
I tried many devices and as I live in an area with poor reception one of the best things is that the p9 has absolutely unparalleled reception quality - also compared to the S7 Edge ...
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Hi,
The biggest difference is that the Note 7 feels a bit more comfortable in the hand, due to its rounded sides compared to the P9 plus' square-ish sides. The software is, obviously, quite different too if used as is. but i use nova launcher on both so they behave closer now.
otherwise, there isn't that big a difference. again, i really don't see a difference between 1080p and quad HD display (i really tried putting the phones side by side and looking at various photos and apps and videos), and the Note 7 camera -- while probably the best overall -- isn't that much better than other cameras out there. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). in fact, i love the P9's gimmick camera features like light trails and night shot, which create really stylish photos that the Note 7 cannot.
as for speed, the P9, like the OnePlus 3, is actually a bit smoother than the Note 7. the Note 7 isn't bad at all, it's just slightly laggy/buggy because of TouchWiz.
overall i would still say the Note 7 is the better phone, BUT i can't stress enough that the difference between the note 7 and a Chinese flagship isn't that big ... not enough to justify the extra $300 or $400 to the average consumer.
i'd recommend the Note 7 for the following types of people:
1: people who don't think US$400 is a lot of money
2: people who really need features like waterproofing and stylus (say, if you are a lifeguard, or if you need to anecdote documents regularly, etc)
3: tech geeks who like to collect gadgets and own the latest/most buzzworthy thing (i am one of these).
4: loyal samsung fans who just want to stick with the company's products
that's about it. otherwise, to the average person -- someone who just buys a phone and uses one phone only for a year or two -- it's very, very hard to justify paying US$850 for the note 7 when the OnePlus 3 costs US$400 or the Huawei P9 Plus costs US$500.
Note 7 is underrated by these standards
radioraheem2 said:
i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
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In performance, OnePlus seems amazing. However the reason I got the Note 7 as a expensive price was, Water Resistance/Proof for 1M 30 Minutes, Curved Screen and Design, Micro SD up to 256gb, Pen for drawing, Iris Scanner (For Wearing Gloves or wet fingerprint), 2K screen, (DPI doesn't matter but for VR, 2K+ definitively needed) Dual Camera and Powerful "Water-Proof" speaker. So far, I have used all these features and found them to be lacking in other phones. I did get Note 7 for Samsung Pay MST however Aussie support sucks so, just rooted and tripped knox.
The Screen is beautiful and curved that makes it appear bigger that it actually is without major size difference. The Water sealing without external ports is so easily to deal with and when i'm in the shower/bath the S-Pen actually helps. I kinda of just got this phone for the easy convenience features. Waterproof is a huge deal, specifically without external ports, it's a major design for people to get the phone. I hear sales people always advertising it and customers wanting it.
I don't own a OnePlus but I'm just saying despite this overpriced phone with it's security restrictions (Hate that) no other phone has all this. Not LG, not Nexus, not OnePlus, not Sony. I do like OnePlus open OEM policy, so no hate. Just hardware and general phone wise, Note 7 is worth twice the price.
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In performance, OnePlus seems amazing. However the reason I got the Note 7 as a expensive price was, Water Resistance/Proof for 1M 30 Minutes, Curved Screen and Design, Micro SD up to 256gb, Pen for drawing, Iris Scanner (For Wearing Gloves or wet fingerprint), 2K screen, (DPI doesn't matter but for VR, 2K+ definitively needed) Dual Camera and Powerful "Water-Proof" speaker. So far, I have used all these features and found them to be lacking in other phones. I did get Note 7 for Samsung Pay MST however Aussie support sucks so, just rooted and tripped knox.
The Screen is beautiful and curved that makes it appear bigger that it actually is without major size difference. The Water sealing without external ports is so easily to deal with and when i'm in the shower/bath the S-Pen actually helps. I kinda of just got this phone for the easy convenience features. Waterproof is a huge deal, specifically without external ports, it's a major design for people to get the phone. I hear sales people always advertising it and customers wanting it.
I don't own a OnePlus but I'm just saying despite this overpriced phone with it's security restrictions (Hate that) no other phone has all this. Not LG, not Nexus, not OnePlus, not Sony. I do like OnePlus open OEM policy, so no hate. Just hardware and general phone wise, Note 7 is worth twice the price.
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you make fair points. thanks for responding in a civil manner, unlike that dude AceRyan, who just accused me of being a liar.
vodovodo said:
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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you really did not see the mentioned flaws or defects when you bought the phone? I always check the things I buy before paying
As far as the phone, It's gorgeous. Minor things I don't like, but more or less, it's 5 stars.
vodovodo said:
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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@vodovodo- thanks for posting and making the video....was wondering, do you think the lack of build quality is because it is a non-US variant?
vodovodo said:
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
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Are you sure that is not light leak but rather light refraction?

Why you would NOT RECOMMEND to me to buy HTC 10?

So Hi! Im thinking about to buy a new smartphone but cant decide buy htc 10 or samsung Note 7.
I know the good points of htc 10, but i wanna hear the "bad points" too.
Why you dont recommend me to buy this phone?
+Also i wanna ask how u guys found the display of htc 10? is it colorful enough? (as far i saw in videos to me its like it "lack of colors")
Thanks
Screen looks great both in the more saturated regular mode and the accurate sRGB mode.
Let's see, these are the first things that come to mind for me:
1) Screen isn't AMOLED so no true blacks
2) Screen, while visible in daylight, isn't closed to as bright as the Galaxy screens
3) Not waterproof
4) If you wear polarized sunglasses, then portrait view is blacked out unless you have a tempered glass protector
I generally do recommend the device, but here are some caveats you should be aware of:
1) Screen is not AMOLED. I personally don't care for AMOLED, but some might find this a deal breaker.
2) Battery life is only okay. I usually get 3-5 hours of SoT, but this varies depending on what ROM I have flashed.
3) Heat. The phone gets hot. This is because it's made of aluminum and is conducting heat away from the SoC, but not everyone will appreciate it. Other phones keep cooler better I think.
4) Price. There is practically no justifying this unless you buy on contract from a carrier and get a subsidized price. I'm on Verizon, and buying from retail would not make my monthly payments cheaper, so I bought on contract and got the device at $200. The OP3 is $100 cheaper, of similar construction except thinner, and only lacks an SD card slot (which it makes up for with twice the onboard storage).
Ultimately, I only recommend this phone if you absolutely need an SD card slot, prefer LCD to AMOLED, and use your phone speakers alot (the 10 has pretty good sound with the tweeter/woofer combo). Otherwise, the OP3 is a very nice phone with more RAM and a lively dev scene here on XDA. Both are otherwise the same phone. Same SOC, same OS, similar dimensions.
Main issue is slow internal memory, emmc instead of UFS 2.0.
Look at comparison below made with androbench.
https://goo.gl/photos/gqLZSGVbt9VkJ3gS8
Wysłane z mojego HTC_M10h
Bug, Bugs everywhere.
no RGB notification led
cannot disable flip over mute call
weak NFC and wifi
auto brightness sometime act weird
the headphone without inline volume control
missing many fancy stuff and details setting, such as more camera mode, cannot disable fast charge, no more fancy widget and app.
basically it is near the same as my Nexus experience, but nexus have much less bug and better firmware update policy.
no its own backup/data transfer app, use only google backup, end up I go for the app helium to transfer app data to the HTC 10
LCD is no where as good as my LG G3 and Nexus 5 JDI display, my HTC 10 got chinese LCD, but the sharp LCD seems much worst.
I buy it because I need a replacement immediate as my nexus 5 dead, it is cheap, if not the Note7 recall then I will buy the Note7, may be I will sold my HTC 10 when new batch of note 7 arrive
p.s. an example of some weird bug, cannot show sdcard name sometime.
I would say the lack of waterproofing would be the #1 reason to NOT buy this phone. While all other major brands, including now Apple are pushing IP67, the HTC 10 is IP53 which basically means that anything more than a splash of water will kill this phone. That sucks, but is far from a deal breaker to me.
The lack of blowing up in your pocket
I would recommend it as I have 3.
1. it has the best build quality of pretty much any maker.
2. Its faster than pretty much any other.
3. It has the best dev following most mods of any phone.
4. Turn off all the crap you dont need running and it has good battery life.
5. Its not amoled screen and I like the colors sammy boys can like amoled not everyone does.
6. It can be bought a lot cheaper with discounts and free accessories than any samsung.
7. Updates come a lot faster than most other makers usually with in 90 days.
8. You can unlock the bootloader.
9. It has the best sound of any smartphone easily add Viper4android and be amazed.
10. You can use your mounted sd card as internal storage.
11. And last but not least exploding batteries are not included.
Oh and I myself do not really care about water proof as I take care of my phone and keep it in a nice quality case.
Just my 2 cents, I bought mine directly from HTC in June. I have had to get it replaced 3 times for different issues. I always baby my devices (case, screen protector, never dropped, no water). 1st-vibration broke, 2nd-borked camera out of the box, 3rd-white burn in on screen and messed up GPS. I'm not saying these are widespread, and I really loved the phone, but I never had so many issues in such a short span.
thanks the info guys, im not say this 100% but probably ill end up with a note 7 but the main reason is display only.
Well being waterproof is a good too its not like ill go a pool with it but atleast can listen/change music in the bathtub lol
*hope dat one wont blow my leg off xD
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Just my 2 cents, I bought mine directly from HTC in June. I have had to get it replaced 3 times for different issues. I always baby my devices (case, screen protector, never dropped, no water). 1st-vibration broke, 2nd-borked camera out of the box, 3rd-white burn in on screen and messed up GPS. I'm not saying these are widespread, and I really loved the phone, but I never had so many issues in such a short span.
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I just sent mine in for GPS issues... I keep trying to give HTC a shot but they keep ruining potentially great phones. STILL, I prefer them to whatever else is out there on the market.
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[RANT] My sad truth about the H932 V30

I've proudly been the owner of an H932 V30 (T-MOBILE) since launch. I've had a blast with this device. I'm also a proud owner of an H872 G6 (T-MOBILE).
Well. I moved to these phones after my H811 G4 (T-MOBILE) became too outdated for my needs.
The G4 has TWRP and root and ROMs as every TMO branded device I've ever had also did.
Well, LG took that away from us by stripping fastboot commands from their devices now. This is sad. But carrier unlocked models can be bought outright for upwards of $600-700 and LG will give you binary file to unlock the bootloader and void your warranty.
No matter, these phones are fairly premium devices and serve their purpose even without Root or ROMs.
The V30 is a multimedia powerhouse, great recording video and audio even in super loud venues! This phone absolutely blew my mind, being that at $800 it was highest price premium flagship device I've ever had. I was in love, like many are. I've been a long time LG fanboy and have always wanted a V-series device since the V10 was released and I'd finally gotten one.
After a while of living with this device as a daily driver i began to realize that it's not as great as I'd convinced myself it was.
I spend hours every day wearing headphones connected to my main device. Listening to music continuously.
The V30 was boasted as having the greatest audiophile sound quality though it's 32bit HiFi DAC utilized through its 3.5mm headphone jack. Admittedly, the sound quality is crisp, clear, and well driven. But is it what everyone says it is? Not entirely, but it's pretty amazing nevertheless.
The overall user experience with the H932 V30 is good, yet not anymore than just that, good. Only good, bordering great but not so much.
LGs skin has always been an acquired taste and I've always been okay with it. But they seem to have been trying too hard to follow the pack rather than be original. Theu even went as far as to remove basic Android options such as better notification control as I've always loved about LG. Even dropped from 8mp front camera as in the G4 (2015) to a puny 5mp potato cam. Insert facepalm here.
They were trying to win back the confidence of the haters giving them grief over past mistakes and alienating those like myself who'd stayed loyal through the ****storm of screw-ups.
This devicehas had a terrible update frequency, which is fine as the hierarchy of AOSP, OEM, & Carrier trickles down to the users eventually. But lack of support and further updates to more refined and stable versions of Android shouldn't be withheld from the end user who pays their premium prices for a so called premium device.
At any rate, I had accepted my fate as a V30 owner and kept looking forward. Everyday there was another issue with the device. . .
Sometimes heavy lags and stutters due to LGs UX skin. Periodically the HiFi DAC ceased to do anything leaving me with flatter sound than desired.
Then there's the highly inconvenient design of the device itself.
My V30 was eligible to receive a free Google Daydream VR headset, so of course I accepted it and I enjoy it. But there's an issue with the headset, LGs design of the device. The orientation of devices for Daydream thus far is only able to be used in one direction, 90 degree rotation to the left. This means the volume buttons are going to be tucked inside the headset and inevitably pushed against the hinge of the daydream viewer! This makes the sound either go to full max volume or fully minimum volume (no sound) wearing over ear headphones for maximum emersion into day dream with the volume buttons becoming stuck to full volume is quite painful, to say the least.
The infamous 3.5mm headphone jack containing the 32bit DAC, while it sounds good it's quite poorly placed on the device. This seemingly minor detail is the one MAJOR flaw that I cannot move passed on this device no matter how hard I try. The headphone jack is placed on the top of the device, which is an absolutely horrendous design choice for several reasons, let's explore my absolute disgust...
Having the headphone jack on the top of the device means during rain or other precipitation there's a chance of the jack getting very wet or filling with water. This isn't really a major concern on an IP68 rated device but it is a thought.
With the headphone jack oriented on the top side of the device this causes an annoyance while just relaxing watching movies with headphones on while the device os plugged in. The type-c port and headphone jack are on opposite ends of the device! This makes using headphones, charging, and holding the device all simultaneously a serious pain in the @$$. At least for me having to accomplish hand gymnastics to hold the device in odd ways as not to put pressure on either ports in use and cause any sort of extra wear, fatigue, or damage of the ports or cables.
Another very similar occurrence is while out and about. Sometimes you have your headphones in while commuting and you also need to use a power bank to get some extra juice in that rather small 3300mah battery! Makes sense doesn't it? Well, now put the device in a pocket with charging cable and headphone jack plugged into it. Go ahead do it! You can't without potentially damaging the ports and/or the cables! This is enraging, truly. The headphone jack should never be on the top of the device!
This brings me to my last and most absolutely infuriating point. The damned headphone jack is on the top of the device! I commute and walk a LOT so I have headphones in often. Of course I want to take advantage of that nice Hifi DAC whilst I commute, wouldn't you?
Well it's more difficult than you'd initially think.
The cord is a nuisance, therefore I always like to tuck the headphone cable into my shirt, hoodie, or jacket to keep it from catching on, well, absolutely everything all the damn time! Well, LG doesn't want convenience for me. Haha, well played LG! If i tuck the cord into a shjrt or jacket i won't be able to lift the device above my waste without putting unnecessary pressure on the wire and/or the connector. Or forcing the earbuds to pull down uncomfortably on my ears and essentially flop out of my ears! This is just a terrible situation overall.
This means that I am forced to wear the cable outside of a shirt or jacket and risk it getting caught on something possibly severing it, breaking it, causing the earbuds to be ripped violently from my ear canals, or pull my phone out of my hand!
Absolutely true! I've dropped this device a minimum of 11 times just because of the headphone cable getting caught on something or by simply putting my hand down and accidentally snagging the cord. When your $800 device goes flying for absolutely no reason while 2 pieces of metal are violently torn from your ear canals it's hard not to be overwhelmed with rage, embarrassment, disgust, & fear of damage all at once! This is absolutely unacceptable for a device that costs more than $40 (yes, forty dollars)!
Finally, I have always out my device into my pocket top down, since my first smartphone running Android 1.5 Cupcake. This orientation just makes perfect sense as the device will be top side up when you raise it to your viewing area. But with headphones plugged in i have to have the device top up then I'm required to remove the device from my pocket and use my other hand to reorient the device in my hand to have a chance of using it. Not to mention if the device is top down in your pocket and there's no cover on the headphone jack (my cases all have cover flaps on ports) you can get various pocket lint inside or dust whatever could be in the pocket.
To top this dumbass headphone jack situation off this could be lived with if I could have 180 degree orientation and just use the phone upside down. Oh but there's no option for that! I could add it myself, but, that would require rooting the damn phone! AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHH, I hate you LG! You trolled me so badly.
But, live and learn. I only paid $325 after all rebates and deals for my V30 so whatever at this point.
In the meantime. I'm now a VERY PROUD owner of a OnePlus 6! Which DOES have the headphone jack on the bottom where it belongs. Yes, I unlocked the bootloader and rooted 53sec after opening the device.
Oh yea, its also the single greatest Android experience I've ever had. I have never once witnessed an Android device as fluid and snappy as the OnePlus 6, not once! Not to mention simply holding the devjce is nearly orgasmic in its own right. Its an absurdly sexy device and feels more premium than the V30. And the 1080p screen isn't bad. Definitely not as bad as screen banding and completely crushed shadows in video on the V30 at lower brightness!
And the OnePlus 6 is significantly cheaper than the v30 was when it launched.
As for the perfectly mounted headphone jack on the OP 6, well its sound quality makes the V30 headphone jack sound like a tin can on a string! It completely obliterates the V30 in audio output and performance. I still can't believe it myself and I own both!
That was a looooong rant about almost nothing, I don't even remember what this was about anymore. Haha
If you made it this far, good for you! You must have a lot of freetime Thanks for reading! If you're a V30 owner, I have a used SupCase Unicorn Beetle Pro case that I will no longer need for the V30. It's in great condition and fully entact no scuffs or scratches! Just cover some shipping and it's yours.
I'm not giving up on my V30 & G6. They're mine and I love them, mostly.
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I just want to say I'm sorry because I skimped though your post and maybe didn't catch everything you said, but did you realize that the LG V30 can actually be unlocked and rooted (every model BUT the H932)?
I think the only point I can agree on is the bad front camera and the back camera which is short of exceptional. The headphone jack placement is a mild discomfort, nothing more. Most other things you mentioned can be fixed via rooting.
The development for this phone is just picking up now that most models can be unlocked, and I expect a lot of improvement in the next couple of months.
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but did you realize that the LG V30 can actually be unlocked and rooted (every model BUT the H932)?
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Oh yes. I absolutely know this. And I have 2 H932s. Trust me I know. But I have a OP6 so I can finally have root again.
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Oh yes. I absolutely know this. And I have 2 H932s. Trust me I know. But I have a OP6 so I can finally have root again.
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But you lose the quad dac and the wide camera, which is a pretty big deal. And of course you could have gotten root anyway if you didn't choose a carrier locked model.
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But you lose the quad dac and the wide camera, which is a pretty big deal. And of course you could have gotten root anyway if you didn't choose a carrier locked model.
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I didn't have $900 lying around to get a phone at the time. And I couldn't have gotten non carrier devices with my Jump upgrade anyway..
It doesn't matter. My V30 & G6 are now backup phones to my OnePlus. LOL
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I love the headset jack on top, and it's the best place for it as I hold my phone on the bottom.
Just have to refute the other rant.
Also you can get bootloader unlocked and rooted mint V30+ that will work on any carrier for $335. Yesterday, with one- day sale was even $268 with free shipping.
LG V30/V30+ was the best phone of 2017 and still beats pretenders like inferior OnePlus. QHD 1440p display, Qi wireless charging, quad DAC.
I actually returned my midnight black op6 256 with 8 gigs of RAM two days ago. Went to the launch event in SF. Found out that they didn't sell 256 models there after waiting in line for an hour and a half, then ordered one online. At this time I saw the eBay auction for Sprint v30+ for $325 taxes in and ordered it immediately.
Spent a few days with both phones and concluded that the op6 (which I paid 729 for with an accessory bundle) was in no way worth over double what I paid for the v30. I find the cameras to both be just OK. Neither is in the pixel2 or iphone8 range. I do like and use the wide angle camera on v30 but the front facing is garbage. I had issues going back to a full HD screen coming from HTC 10. The vibrate motor in the op6 felt cheap. Though dash charging is arguably the superior tech, I didn't want to have to replace all of my quick chargers at home and in cars.
All in all, I think OnePlus is doing a fantastic job, I would just pay 40% more for 40% more quality. That's me. My plan is to use the v30 through the summer and see what pixel 3 looks like come fall.
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My V30 & G6 are now backup phones to my OnePlus.
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I just replaced my G6 with a V30. Does the V30 have a shortcut (or widget like the G6) for the square camera? Is the only way to access the square camera on the V30 is via the settings in the camera app?
I thought about the OP6 after my G6 died, but I can't do without wireless charging and wide angle camera.
HKSpeed said:
I just replaced my G6 with a V30. Does the V30 have a shortcut (or widget like the G6) for the square camera? Is the only way to access the square camera on the V30 is via the settings in the camera app?
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You confused me with "square camera". What do you mean?
Are you asking how to put a shortcut to your camera on the desktop? Surely you're not asking that, so what the heck is the "square camera"?
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I thought about the OP6 after my G6 died, but I can't do without wireless charging and wide angle camera.[/QUOTE
Yeah I'm not buying a phone without Qi wireless charging. Even iPhone has that now. OnePlus doesn't know what they are doing. Maybe one day OPPO will v actually let the release a premium phone with QHD display and Qi wireless charging.
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You confused me with "square camera". What do you mean?
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On the G6, the 1:1 ratio camera is called the "Square Camera". LG provides a widget to open it directly. On Nova Launcher I can set a home screen shortcut to launch it directly. On the V30 I have to open the camera and change settings to 1:1.
ChazzMatt said:
I love the headset jack on top, and it's the best place for it as I hold my phone on the bottom.
Just have to refute the other rant.
Also you can get bootloader unlocked and rooted mint V30+ that will work on any carrier for $335. Yesterday, with one- day sale was even $268 with free shipping.
LG V30/V30+ was the best phone of 2017 and still beats pretenders like inferior OnePlus. QHD 1440p display, Qi wireless charging, quad DAC.
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Hey to each their own. I hate the extra fatigue on the cord being at the top and the extra precautions I have to take.
Oh I love my V30 & G6. But I need certain stuff like bottom jack and working fastboot.
However the recording quality of the V30 is irreplaceable. I'm not getting rid of any of my LG devices.
Honestly if I could put a SD821 chip or better in my G4, I'd use it exclusively as it's practically the perfect phone in design. Dammit 808! LOL.
Currently the OP6 is the best thing I've experienced. Especially having bootloader unlock, twrp, & root 2min wfter receiving it... I can't wait to buy a 6t later this year! Yay.
BTW Chazz, are you running your V30 stock? I have crazy lags sometimes after Oreo update. Also, sometimes the device freezes when I have PiP running with YouTube. V30 needs 8.1. and to run stock Android. LOL never gonna happen on either of those.
But I'll still use it nevertheless. Heck I'm commuting right now and running OP6, V30, & G6 currently!
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But you lose the quad dac and the wide camera, which is a pretty big deal. And of course you could have gotten root anyway if you didn't choose a carrier locked model.
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The quad dac does work on AOSP roms with Whiskeyomega's mods. Wide angle should potentially work with the cstark google cam wide angle app. The camera situation is not ideal (2apks and you lose video modes if you care about those) but the mods are a perfectly fine compromise for what you get in return.
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BTW Chazz, are you running your V30 stock? I have crazy lags sometimes after Oreo update. Also, sometimes the device freezes when I have PiP running with YouTube. V30 needs 8.1. and to run stock Android. LOL never gonna happen on either of those.
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Yes, I am still running stock. I normally love custom ROMs and may move to them eventually, but I'm too busy to mess with them right now. Working 60 hour weeks right now and weekends are taken up by necessary stuff like family and mowing the grass.
Of the 5 (yes 5) V30/V30+ I have, one is being prepared for my sister, possibly one for my 88 year old mother (she's still on a Straight Talk feature phone which may be dying -- so THAT will be quite a ride, explaining not only Android to her/Google Assistant, but just modern touchscreens, etc.)
My wife is still on non-rooted V30 and I'm trying to figure out how to swap her to one of the others temporarily while I then bootloader unlock and root hers. I need like one full day to do it right.
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Yes, I am still running stock. I normally love custom ROMs and may move to them eventually, but I'm too busy to mess with them right now. Working 60 hour weeks right now and weekends are taken up by necessary stuff like family and mowing the grass.
Of the 5 (yes 5) V30/V30+ I have, one is being prepared for my sister, possibly one for my 88 year old mother (she's still on a Straight Talk feature phone which may be dying -- so THAT will be quite a ride, explaining not only Android to her/Google Assistant, but just modern touchscreens, etc.)
My wife is still on non-rooted V30 and I'm trying to figure out how to swap her to one of the others temporarily while I then bootloader unlock and root hers. I need like one full day to do it right.
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Yea I'm about to use TMobiles jump ootion on my current V30 and use my paid off one. But so far I'm loving my OnePlus 6 with official TWRP, ElementalX kernel, Magisk, V4a, and plenty of ROMs in development.
Apparently you can also flash official OTA files in TWRP as if it's a ROM. Awesome. I still daily my V30 and G6, but the OP6 is just a flatout beast with everything I could want as of right now. And the audio output is actually very good from the jack.
I know you hate 1080p display but it doesn't bother me and this device is absolutely fantastic.
Wish an unlocked V30 cost the same. But for $615 i got a nearly stock Android experience with 8gb RAM, 128gb storage, SD845, Karbon Fibre case, tempered glass screen protector, 24ohm impedance earbuds (that sound great), & an OTA cable. V30 comes with.....a microfibre cloth. Mmmhmm. At least it's LG branded. LOL
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The quad dac does work on AOSP roms with Whiskeyomega's mods. Wide angle should potentially work with the cstark google cam wide angle app. The camera situation is not ideal (2apks and you lose video modes if you care about those) but the mods are a perfectly fine compromise for what you get in return.
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I was talking about LG V30 vs OnePlus 6
In December, if my V30+ from T-Mobile doesn't have root, I'll likely be moving on to the next.
We shall see what's available.
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I don't think I have ever had a problem with charging my phone with Type-C and using the 3.5mm on top at the same time while holding my phone.....and I walk with the cord out because having it in my shirt or sweater is uncomfortable and as you said would make it almost impossible to use....i also never used it that way on my U11 which usd Type-C headphones....
One plus 6 ain't as good for multimedia
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Yea I'm about to use TMobiles jump ootion on my current V30 and use my paid off one. But so far I'm loving my OnePlus 6 with official TWRP, ElementalX kernel, Magisk, V4a, and plenty of ROMs in development.
Apparently you can also flash official OTA files in TWRP as if it's a ROM. Awesome. I still daily my V30 and G6, but the OP6 is just a flatout beast with everything I could want as of right now. And the audio output is actually very good from the jack.
I know you hate 1080p display but it doesn't bother me and this device is absolutely fantastic.
Wish an unlocked V30 cost the same. But for $615 i got a nearly stock Android experience with 8gb RAM, 128gb storage, SD845, Karbon Fibre case, tempered glass screen protector, 24ohm impedance earbuds (that sound great), & an OTA cable. V30 comes with.....a microfibre cloth. Mmmhmm. At least it's LG branded. LOL
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Lol, 1080p, as you said, worse sound than the previous one plus model through the headphone jack so it's not even in the same league as the v30, no card slot, no wide angle. How is the one plus as good as the v30 for multimedia? 8 GB of RAM is cool though. The one plus is better for opening apps speedily but not for multimedia purposes.
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Lol, 1080p, as you said, worse sound than the previous one plus model through the headphone jack so it's not even in the same league as the v30, no card slot, no wide angle. How is the one plus as good as the v30 for multimedia? 8 GB of RAM is cool though. The one plus is better for opening apps speedily but not for multimedia purposes.
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1080p is.fine.
Don't need wide angle on op6 because i have it on my V30 & my G6..
Headphone jack is 1. Mounted in a usable place the BOTTOM of the phone where it belongs. 2. Had a friggen equalizer amd sounds absolutely incredible because I can drop the disgusting treble way down.
Besides that, i can actually root the op6 unlike my v30 and I can use V4A which add to the amazing experience of the OP6s dac.
I don't even care that the op6 is 30x faster than my v30. All i care about is the properly mounted headphone jack so i can actually use wired headphones outside of my home. Being able to tuck my cord into a shirt (between shirt and undershirt) or hoodie keeping me from ruining my cord or repeatedly dropping the device because I keep getting caught.on anything like my own goddamn hands. Also, I can pocket the device the CORRECT way, top side down, instead of the top side up bull**** that makes the fingerprint scanner unusable without rotation of the phone in hand.
I'm not bad mouthing the v30. It has the potential to be good. Everything is a 10/10 on it but the headphone jack drops 4 points and no root drops more. But it's still better than crapple.
Id love it more if I could have a friggen equalizer on the headphone jack so I could take advantage of the sound..
Besides having the device plugged in with headphones while holding it is the most awkward bull**** experience ever. You have to hold it a very particular way as to not ruin the cords on both sides and cramp your fingers. Headphone jack on top is is not practical in any way. Its only good for plugging into speakers and setting the phone down or in a car with aux cord..
Headphone jack location alone is the factor that makes this device not worth buying if you want to use headphones on the go without taping an extension to your phone like I had to.
But mine only costed me $310 so its a.great backup/work phone
The Dirac tuned audio may not be as mainstream as B&O, but at least it has an EQ built-in. Besides, the OnePlus headphones ($20) are far superior to the the LG/B&O headphones ($140) in sound quality and bass. And both sound better on the OP6 with reduced treble.
Also, audio calling on the V30 with headphones is awful! I can hear everything in my Microphone like breathing and the cord flopping around. Granted the other person doesn't, but I can. It's realy upsetting.
BTW this is difficult to type as I just sliced off my thumb tip at work a few hours ago and cannot use it..
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Besides, i only get 8hrs of SOT with the v30.
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Do you plan to upgrate to a OP 7 Pro?

My OP5T still works great (besides the broken screen) but I think now is the moment to to still get some money out of it and upgrade to a new phone.
Bigger battery, higher resolution with 90 Hz (!!!), bezelless design.. the arguments are strong this time. Just the price is a bit high.
Do you plan to upgrade? And do you know if also well known/good devs will upgrade because Rom development is important for me.
Thanks!
Same situation here, but what really keeps me from buying the 7 Pro is the curved screen.
I just upgraded to the 5t from 3.
So no. I dont see the point in buying always the newest phone. Better an older one for a way better price.
Smartphones are so fast these days, you wont notice a real differnce anyway.
And dont see any significant changes in the speed in daily usage from 3 to 5t.
And in my eyes the 7 would be a downgrade. Popup camera... Fast face unlock? I doubt it. No notification LED anymore, no headphone jack, high pricing.
Nope, thx
Nope. 5t is awesome (camera aside). Absolutely no reason for an upgrade.
Honestly, I think OnePlus peaked with the 3T.
The pop up camera on the 1+7 reminds me of the Nirvana Nevermind album cover.
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My OP5T still works great (besides the broken screen) but I think now is the moment to to still get some money out of it and upgrade to a new phone.
Bigger battery, higher resolution with 90 Hz (!!!), bezelless design.. the arguments are strong this time. Just the price is a bit high.
Do you plan to upgrade? And do you know if also well known/good devs will upgrade because Rom development is important for me.
Thanks!
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Personally, I'd stay away from the curved screen and pop-up camera. Unnecessary additions that jack up the price of an otherwise decent phone. I've had my eye on the Black Shark 2 actually, it has all the necessary upgrades at a lesser price.
Same here, i'm very happy with my 5T. OnePlus is my favorite smartphone maker but the curved screen is the ugliest invention they could make ... hopefully they'll drop it with the 7T. Until then my 5T will stay
I am thinking to upgrade to the op7 but not the 7 pro just the basic one as i dont really like the idea of popup camera but i am quite interested in the new sd855 processor.
The 90 Hz display is the thing I really look forward because I just LOVE smothness and also on my desktop I use 120 Hz+ and it is really different to normal 60hz displays.
but yes the popup kamera could be a problem but in the end I dont take so much selfies and the few times I do it should work I think.
TBH OP7 is a big upgrade in terms of hardware, but such upgrade aren't necessary with today's applications/games, so I'll stay with OP5T.
Of course its not necessary but since I am a hardware nerd/geek I just like something new sometimes. And well I should be able to get some money for my 5T.
OnePlus 5T is still cool and soomthly for me, play games with it is easy may be i will bay a 7T:cyclops:
I will order it tomorrow. Just want something new and fresh and I can get it for 270€.

Let's talk about the Note 10/Note 10+

#August 7th is the launch date if latest rumours are to be believed.
- What do you think about the rumored pinhole front facing camera? Looking at the small size of it, is it going to be inferior to the one in the S10+?
- The rumoured back cameras design looks a lot like what we have seen in several other smartphones. It does not look appealing to me and expected a better design.
- No hardware bixby button seen so far looking at trustworthy sources/renders. If it's real, it would feel like a fresh breath of air. Hope they all together killed it and not keeping a software-only bixby.
- Exynos 9820 or 9825? Hope the latter.
- 25W fast charging or something like 45W? Hope it's 45 but I'm kinda sure it'll be 25.?
#Meanwhile Vivo goes INSANE with 120W super fast charging to charge 4000 mAh in 13 minutes:
( https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/06/...arge-can-power-4000mah-battery-in-13-minutes/ )
- No headphobe jack it seems, not that something I care much, but a lot will be furious for sure.
- Feels good to know about AMD & Samsung's GPU licensing deal, but it does not mean we will see Adreno GPU in Exynos SoCs so soon, and nothing tastes bitter than continuing with Mali GPUs.
( https://www.anandtech.com/show/14492/samsung-amds-gpu-licensing-an-interesting-collaboration )
- Courtesy to IceUniverse's tweet, Note 10's "chin" is very narrow and hence no speaker grooves on the forehead, meaning that the flagship Sound on Display(SoD) technology will replace the traditional speaker. This is a welcome move . SoD in LG G8 for example, produces fuller, louder and equally good sound like traditional stereo ones.
- Though improved with consecutive updates, the FP sensor on the S10/S10+ still struggles at times, hope we see a drastic change in the second gen sensor.
- UFS 3.0 for sure, fast AF, sweet to have irrespective of how much of a difference it actually makes in real world..
- I wish the pinhole was at the side. Sticking it in the middle is distracting and also wastes the space either side.
- I like the camera design on the rear, it looks more natural when you are taking landscape oriented shots.
- No Bixby? No problem. Look I have tried very hard to like Bixby, I have defended it many times but in all honesty it sucks. The button is a pain as I constantly accidentally press it when gripping the phone.
- I think the processor speed regardless of which version will be absolutely more than enough. I don't get hyped up about speed anymore, I haven't had performance issues with Samsung flagships in a very long time. The latest version is nice but I am not too fussed.
- Superfast wireless charging would be nice but it's not dealbreaking.
- I do want a headphone jack! I do not see the point in removing it just to be like all the others. If they do remove it I hope they ship with some decent wireless buds.
- A GPU upgrade is a long time coming.
- I like the idea of Sound on Display for making calls, so long as it doesn't make the external speakers sound crap or too quiet when playing music or video.
- I definitely think they will improve the fingerprint scanner. My S10+ is hit and miss and seems like it's in beta. I am sure this will be improved.
- UFS 3.0 ... I agree it might not be worth the excitement but nice to have.
I hope they stick to the more subtle curves on the edges and corners. As much as I like the look of the curves on my S10+ they aren't as comfortable/practical as the Note 9.
I hope we still have a MicroSD card slot and they add wireless power share. I also want to see more attention paid to low light photography and an increase in optical zoom.
Regardless, as a Note Nutter I will be buying a Note 10. I don't want to break the chain of Notes owned since 2011
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- I wish the pinhole was at the side. Sticking it in the middle is distracting and also wastes the space either side.
- I like the camera design on the rear, it looks more natural when you are taking landscape oriented shots.
- No Bixby? No problem. Look I have tried very hard to like Bixby, I have defended it many times but in all honesty it sucks. The button is a pain as I constantly accidentally press it when gripping the phone.
- I think the processor speed regardless of which version will be absolutely more than enough. I don't get hyped up about speed anymore, I haven't had performance issues with Samsung flagships in a very long time. The latest version is nice but I am not too fussed.
- Superfast wireless charging would be nice but it's not dealbreaking.
- I do want a headphone jack! I do not see the point in removing it just to be like all the others. If they do remove it I hope they ship with some decent wireless buds.
- A GPU upgrade is a long time coming.
- I like the idea of Sound on Display for making calls, so long as it doesn't make the external speakers sound crap or too quiet when playing music or video.
- I definitely think they will improve the fingerprint scanner. My S10+ is hit and miss and seems like it's in beta. I am sure this will be improved.
- UFS 3.0 ... I agree it might not be worth the excitement but nice to have.
I hope they stick to the more subtle curves on the edges and corners. As much as I like the look of the curves on my S10+ they aren't as comfortable/practical as the Note 9.
I hope we still have a MicroSD card slot and they add wireless power share. I also want to see more attention paid to low light photography and an increase in optical zoom.
Regardless, as a Note Nutter I will be buying a Note 10. I don't want to break the chain of Notes owned since 2011
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Quite liked how you wrote.
Unfortunately, we will probably see Type C AKG earphones bundled with, and not wireless buds as per this tweet:
https://twitter.com/mweinbachXDA/status/1142429182431039488?s=19
We are already seeing massive low light improvements in the S10's after the updates :
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-camera-review-updates/
Note 10 should make it even better.
Sammy will probably not pay much attention to more optical zoom capabilities for now, but with 3 variable apertures being rumored, we might see sharper images in moderate lighting conditions due to the addition of f/1.8
https://mobile.twitter.com/UniverseIce/status/1141608857220681728?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Maybe they will offer the earbuds on pre-orders (fingers crossed) But whilst I don't use the headphone jack very much I really hate this band wagon jumping that OEM's started to do when Apple removed it unnecessarily because (cough) they were brave.
The rumour mill does suggest that the Note 10 might have a 5x Optical Zoom, though it might be more destined to coincide with the next year's A-Series launches, considered Samsung's test-bed models of late. I also read that their newly developed 64 megapixel ISOCELL Bright GW1 sensor is not going to make it to the Note 10.
Which leads me on to this:
What's sad is that the Galaxy Note series was always considered Samsung's top jewel in the crown. If a new innovation was being pushed out you would find it on the latest Note. Now it seems that all the excitement is taken away once the S - Series phones are released (and in some cases the Galaxy A-Series) so owning a Note doesn't give you the bragging rights you once enjoyed. A good example is that I used to love the larger screen size offered by a Galaxy Note but now my S10+ is the same size as the Note 9. Camera innovations are often re-ported from the S to the Note, along with new bio-metrics and screen technology. So aside from the S-Pen, what do we really get for all that extra cash?
I upgrade each year all the same, because I have always considered the best Android phone each and every year is the Samsung Galaxy Note. But seriously, if the boundaries between the Galaxy S and the Note becoming more and more blurred my passion for this device will probable dwindle.
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the bixby button was my flash light button ...
now i have to go buy a rape whistle.
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the bixby button was my flash light button ...
now i have to go buy a rape whistle.
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That hopefully will never come in handy!
bober10113 said:
the bixby button was my flash light button ...
now i have to go buy a rape whistle.
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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] or maybe a chasity belt.
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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] or maybe a chasity belt.
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do they cover the back side as well?
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do they cover the back side as well?
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Yes, and they are barbed.
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a new article appeared on gsmarena where it leaks new note 10 cases and it's clearly showing that it will not have a headphone jack. personally I don't see a reason to buy it, even though I have wireless headphones I also use the wired ones at work and for the moment I can't part myself from a very useful feature.
To be honest, the Note 10 seems too similar to the S10 5G. I do prefer the centered front camera and the S-Pen is nice, but is it worth losing a headphone jack and likely having a smaller battery? Also, we see a rumored A90 without a notch or punch, but with high end specs.
Samsung has created too many models. They likely could have saved money and cut costs by combining the 5G and Note models. They could differentiate them more by using different aspect ratios. Not everyone likes the 19:9 or 19.5:9 aspect ratios. Phones are getting tall and unwieldy and a bezel-less 18:9 or 18.5:9 phone would be welcome.
Reportedly "leaked" live images:
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-leaked-live-images/
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Reportedly "leaked" live images:
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-leaked-live-images/
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Hoping the curve edges are same as rhe s10plus and not more aggressive.
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Hoping the curve edges are same as rhe s10plus and not more aggressive.
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Yup. It doesn't look aggressive in the pics...
And I'm not liking the punch - "pin"hole front cam. The "capsule" in the s10+ distracts, this one will too, but it's too late for me to whine.
Eagerly waiting on the official details but so far dont like the pin hole camera hole, the camera hole on the s10+ looks much better and like u can add the battery icon colors.
If they remove the Bixby button that would suck because now since u can remap I use that all day every day for my Nest cameras on demand. I mean u could use google to open apps quickly button if its constantly listening to wake up i found that drains ur battery. It's great though if u have smart displays at home and all.
Yeah, looks like I will sit this one out. The note 9 is going to be the new note4 . The notch is a deal breaker and so is the lack of headphone jack. The back camera placement is fine tho. I too ,miss the days of the Note being the flagship, and all about business, but nows it's just the Galaxy S with a pen. Some people may think it's being silly, but I refuse to pay north of 1000 bucks for something that isn't exactly what I want. I also thought there would be more Note fans who share the same view, but it looks like I am in a small minority of folks who hate the notch and love the headphone jack. I now know how the fans of the ir blaster felt.
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While it sad to see the headphone jack go, I don't find the audio all that good out of the Note 9 headphone jack. It's OK but nothing special.
I use a Bluetooth adapter which gives far better sound.
So I'm not too bothered about the Headphone jack going.
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Yeah, looks like I will sit this one out. The note 9 is going to be the new note4 . The notch is a deal breaker and so is the lack of headphone jack. The back camera placement is fine tho. I too ,miss the days of the Note being the flagship, and all about business, but nows it's just the Galaxy S with a pen. Some people may think it's being silly, but I refuse to pay north of 1000 bucks for something that isn't exactly what I want. I also thought there would be more Note fans who share the same view, but it looks like I am in a small minority of folks who hate the notch and love the headphone jack. I now know how the fans of the ir blaster felt.
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You know what's funny about your post? I legit just told my wife about 2 days ago I would have happily stayed with my note 4. I had so many accessories, giant batteries like zero lemon. It was truly decked out. My last got ridiculously smashed though
This stupid ''Infinity O'' thing in the middle of the Display on Top is the only reason to wait better on Note 11 or 12. Im no Fan with this Notch/InfinityO things overall. Anyway my Note 9 is atm a beast & i guss it will be a beast for the next 2-3 years. Hopefully Sammy managed this Displayhole till this day when i feel a need to upgrade.
Same here I'm staying with the note 9 for a few years

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