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Covered Design, Features, What was removed as well as added and a Speed Test. Is it worth the jump from the Note 3 to the Note 4?
After using the Note 3 as my main device for a year then getting the Note 4, I like to say that there is a difference and it feels refreshed. With the 1440p Display, New Touch Wiz Ui, and a few new features. Now I did notice that there are somethings missing from the Note 4 that the Note 3 had. There are also something that have been moved and changed, like the Pen Window feature is now used with the Multi-Window feature on the Note 4. Spec wise there is not a massive push but its still a beast of a phone. Watch the Full comparison below and let me know what you think. Is it worth the jump from the Note 3 to the Note 4?
Surprisingly no mention of 2x2 MIMO capability on the WiFi, which I don't recall the note 3 having, but admittedly I do not know for sure as I came from an SIII and have never actually owned the note 3.
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My thoughts on this are
Note 3 - Good: size, speed until the end lol. battery life was good too
- Bad: poor wifi (random drops, very weak signal) LTE would just vanish, very poor camera lag would always miss "the shot", drop calls all the time,
Note 4 - REALY great wifi signal all over the house, no random drops, lte is always avail now! yay! AWESOME camera! never miss a shot!
Silly fake metal sides, tho they do look good, I don't want to put a case on it that will hide that. I really like the multi sensor by the flash, (Pulse/ox/uv) finger print scanner is a little tricky still one of those gimmicks i think.
There is one thing that has really made me upset about moving to the new note 4, I used to use my note 3 as a GPS with Waze, and run xiia to listen to internet radio while driving to work. I was able to do this using my IBolt ProDock. and run the audio out one cable connected to the usb port. I can no longer do this I have to have an extra cable connected to the head phone jack to get the audio out which clutters up the dash.
Thanks sammy for fugging that part up.
raiu said:
My thoughts on this are
Note 3 - Good: size, speed until the end lol. battery life was good too
- Bad: poor wifi (random drops, very weak signal) LTE would just vanish, very poor camera lag would always miss "the shot", drop calls all the time,
Note 4 - REALY great wifi signal all over the house, no random drops, lte is always avail now! yay! AWESOME camera! never miss a shot!
Silly fake metal sides, tho they do look good, I don't want to put a case on it that will hide that. I really like the multi sensor by the flash, (Pulse/ox/uv) finger print scanner is a little tricky still one of those gimmicks i think.
There is one thing that has really made me upset about moving to the new note 4, I used to use my note 3 as a GPS with Waze, and run xiia to listen to internet radio while driving to work. I was able to do this using my IBolt ProDock. and run the audio out one cable connected to the usb port. I can no longer do this I have to have an extra cable connected to the head phone jack to get the audio out which clutters up the dash.
Thanks sammy for fugging that part up.
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The note 4 has a real metal band which i feel is a nice touch to the phone. everything else is spot on.
raiu said:
My thoughts on this are
Note 3 - Good: size, speed until the end lol. battery life was good too
- Bad: poor wifi (random drops, very weak signal) LTE would just vanish, very poor camera lag would always miss "the shot", drop calls all the time,
Note 4 - REALY great wifi signal all over the house, no random drops, lte is always avail now! yay! AWESOME camera! never miss a shot!
Silly fake metal sides, tho they do look good, I don't want to put a case on it that will hide that. I really like the multi sensor by the flash, (Pulse/ox/uv) finger print scanner is a little tricky still one of those gimmicks i think.
There is one thing that has really made me upset about moving to the new note 4, I used to use my note 3 as a GPS with Waze, and run xiia to listen to internet radio while driving to work. I was able to do this using my IBolt ProDock. and run the audio out one cable connected to the usb port. I can no longer do this I have to have an extra cable connected to the head phone jack to get the audio out which clutters up the dash.
Thanks sammy for fugging that part up.
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Yeah, fake metal sides on Note 3, real metal on Note 4, brutha.
It would have been lovely with a tegra 4 or K1.
raiu said:
My thoughts on this are
Note 3 - Good: size, speed until the end lol. battery life was good too
- Bad: poor wifi (random drops, very weak signal) LTE would just vanish, very poor camera lag would always miss "the shot", drop calls all the time,
Note 4 - REALY great wifi signal all over the house, no random drops, lte is always avail now! yay! AWESOME camera! never miss a shot!
Silly fake metal sides, tho they do look good, I don't want to put a case on it that will hide that. I really like the multi sensor by the flash, (Pulse/ox/uv) finger print scanner is a little tricky still one of those gimmicks i think.
There is one thing that has really made me upset about moving to the new note 4, I used to use my note 3 as a GPS with Waze, and run xiia to listen to internet radio while driving to work. I was able to do this using my IBolt ProDock. and run the audio out one cable connected to the usb port. I can no longer do this I have to have an extra cable connected to the head phone jack to get the audio out which clutters up the dash.
Thanks sammy for fugging that part up.
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Note 4 uses real metal what are you talking about bruh
Pull the pen out guys, it's white plastic. It looks nice but it's just a plastic. :good:
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Maybe even graphite.
raiu said:
Pull the pen out guys, it's white plastic. It looks nice but it's just a plastic. :good:
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Maybe even graphite.
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It's not a metal chassis but it is a thin metal band. Samsung sticks with a majority of polycarbonate for a reason, it's stronger and better for phones. It has give that metal does not have. Samsung did a great combination here to give the phone a feeling people so ignorantly want. The grade of plastic they use is not cheap and is truly premium but the average consumer unfortunately doesn't know any better :/
Just look at how other phones show wear and tear after just a few short months because of an all metal body. My galaxy s4 though still looks almost brand new out of the box a year and a half later. That in itself proves the worthiness of polycarbonate. Samsung KNOWS what they are doing.
Again you clearly didn't look. It's white plastic where the supposed "metal band" is.
If you take a close look at it it's painted plastic. If it is metal then it's super thin.
raiu said:
Again you clearly didn't look. It's white plastic where the supposed "metal band" is.
If you take a close look at it it's painted plastic. If it is metal then it's super thin.
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its metal, just how much of it is though. Its plastic but there is metal there unlike the note 3.
raiu said:
Again you clearly didn't look. It's white plastic where the supposed "metal band" is.
If you take a close look at it it's painted plastic. If it is metal then it's super thin.
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Looking right now, I see metal on top of plastic, just like advertised, don't know what you're looking at.
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Again you clearly didn't look. It's white plastic where the supposed "metal band" is.
If you take a close look at it it's painted plastic. If it is metal then it's super thin.
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I like what Samsung has done to put the thin metal band around to give it a premium look & feel, while keeping the phone weight low by using durable plastic chassis and a cover that allows battery and memory card slot access. Bravo! Aluminum material is over-rated. GN4 is much much stronger and more durable than the unreasonably expensive iPhone 6 Plus by a large margin.
Dont get me wrong. I like the device. Just wish native support for audio out of the usb was there. I have a usb audi interface coming on monday to find out if that will work.
With how many high end Android devices are available, it always boggles my mind about constant complaining when someone gets a new device. Am I alone here?
WizeGuyDezignz said:
With how many high end Android devices are available, it always boggles my mind about constant complaining when someone gets a new device. Am I alone here?
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I just spent eight hours setting up my Note 4 the way my Note 3 was set up. I have 150 apps so it's a pain in the ass including signing in to them all and initializing them. Add to that every time you connect a Gear to a new device it blows away its configuration so it needs to be completely rebuilt too.
Some observations:
So the former menu button was supposed to be Android blasphemy. So now instead of having one hard key to universally access menus across the device you get to play "find the settings" across apps and the UI. After just going through setting up 100+ apps it's amazing how many different places menus can be placed, how many different settings indicator icons devs can unleash, how different the contents are, and how little app developers really care about UX. Google's UI flexibility sucks if what I described can exist and making it all "flatter" in 5.0 ain't going to help. Samsung had it right in the first place.
This is a nifty new tool that offers a soft key replacement for the old hard key menu button. Now that phablets are gaining in popularity you'd think app devs would realize it's a 6" stretch to reach the upper left of the display. It's impossible one handed. Samsung's still got some cleverness left in them.
There's a huge performance difference between the 3<>4. Everything's more fluid, installing apps is about three times as fast, scrolling is lag free, apps open faster, and in-app performance is faster (EG: all aspects of stock browser performance). And whether it's s/w optimization or brute force power via S-805 it's all very noticeable.
The Note 4 is fantastic battery wise. It charges unbelievably fast; even using a standard charger. It's blazingly fast with the high output charger. It also sips battery compared to the N3. As an example I was configuring my Note 4 using SideSync via my N10.1-14. The Note 4 actually went from 65% to 100% while on my battery booster while it was active for three hours. You could watch the Note 3's battery drop under the same circumstances. I have a ton of apps and syncs running in the background so I'm an extreme use case. I'd guess for my usage the Note 4's at least 25% better on battery use than my Note 3 configured exactly the same way.
I abhor change for change sake. That's what Samsung did with a lot of their stock apps and UI elements. All the photo-related apps for example. They do exactly the same things their predecessors did but everything's been rearranged for no particular reason. Stuffs been stripped out too. Driving mode which read messages aloud when the phone was in the car is gone. So is cloud and FTP integration in My Files. There's a lot of head scratching feature changes (adds and deletes) along with some questionable usability choices.
For those with a Gear all the wonkiness with Gear Manager is finally gone. The Note 4 and Gear play very well together. But the Note 4's device ID is screwed up in the Gear App Store so some app that I had no longer show available. That can be fixed. The wretched way the Gear and Note 3 worked together was beyond repair.
Wireless performance is exceptional and noticeably faster than the Note 3 both on Wi-Fi and LTE. I have a high-end AC router and downloads are jaw dropping fast. My Note 3 had no GPS issues and I know some folks did. In my case, GPS is about a tie or maybe even a bit better on the Note 3. The Note 4's fine but it takes it a while to lock and if it's moved to the background and back it gets lost until it locks again. It's not bad, it's just not as good as Wi-Fi and LTE.
Design, materials, and build quality. I feel sorry for Samsung. Everyone *****es them out about their "plasticky" phones, they do something about it, and it's not enough. The Note 4 is exceptionally well built to some of the most exacting tolerances I've seen on a mobile device. Look at how the plastic bezel insert flawlessly abuts the aluminium trim it's part of. Look how tight the back cover snaps on to be completely flush with the metal. There's even little body-colored inserts in the rocker switches that look perfectly aligned. So folks may not like Samsung's choices but the phone's solid, feels good in the hand, and has a "special" feel to it. Its biggest problem is that from six feet away it's hard to tell apart from the Note 3. But I was OK with Note 3's design any way and my phone's a tool not jewelry. As for the "gap." I'm not sure whether mine has one or not. There's three things happening at once on the edges of the phone - the 2D lip creates a reflection, the metal band creates a reflection, and at least on the white version I can't tell if there's a gap or not. There's so much going on visually at the edges of the display even if there was a gap no one but the anal retentive could possibly find it. Again, poor Samsung.
I found some cool new features, tips, and short cuts I'll share later. I'm all mobile device'd out right now.
The camera makes it worth every penny. What a world of difference! Like, polar. I can't believe the same company made both phones- the improvements to the camera h/w and s/w interface are immeasurable.
TouchWiz looks much nicer imo. Never had any issues with speed on the note 3, but the 4 does seem snappier. Design has definitely been improved- personal taste.
I don't really notice much of a difference in the screen unless I am looking at one of the beautiful photos I just took with insane detail. That is very nice. The screen allows you to appreciate the camera for sure.
Love the metal trim!
Speaker audio sounds louder and crisper, more full. I like the change in placement so my hand doesn't cover it up on the bottom.
S pen feels so much more responsive to light touch. I am a huge s pen user as I draw lots of diagrams and schematics. Never had an issue with the note 3 stylus, but this one feels like a very nice improvement (less pressure required to draw).
After trimming the fat off of background services (as I did on Note 3), my battery life seems slightly better than before- though the N3 seemed great as well. Time will tell.
Lots of other little details- too many to mention. A very happy customer. How someone could think the note 3 is better with such a huge difference in camera quality, I do not know.
Yes, very much worth it if you ask me!
Everyone is so excited about the camera, but does it:
1) allow take pictures while shooting 60fps 1080p videos?
2) have 60fps video with image stabilization?
3) does the camera keeps your settings if you switch to different modes and then quit/kill the camera app? (such as size, burst, stabilization, face detection. To test it, change these settings and switch to HDR mode, then hit home button and use the phone for a while by loading different apps, filling up the memory, until camera app gets removed from memory)
For Note 3 the answers are: no, no, no
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Everyone is so excited about the camera, but does it:
1) allow take pictures while shooting 60fps 1080p videos?
2) have 60fps video with image stabilization?
3) does the camera keeps your settings if you switch to different modes and then quit/kill the camera app? (such as size, burst, stabilization, face detection. To test it, change these settings and switch to HDR mode, then hit home button and use the phone for a while by loading different apps, filling up the memory, until camera app gets removed from memory)
For Note 3 the answers are: no, no, no
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You can take pictures while shooting video. Image stabilization is a thing when shooting in 1080p but not 4k. Not sure about the last, I didn't take a notice to that.
The video does seem more stable without software stabilization, probably the OIS I would imagine. Or maybe I'm just placebo-ing
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Note 7, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The phone feels really good in the hand. The only reason I didn't give it 5 stars is the worry I have with the scratches.
I love my Note 7 so much! The build quality is exceptional and the display is truly stunning. its just so immersive.
Made a little quick look video about it
Alright, alright. I had to create an account after reading several critiques and complaints on this forum. I'm sure a lot of people that are considering buying the phone will be popping in and reading the very same complaints while considering their purchase. The purpose of this thread is to clear up said complaints, from my own personal experience.
First of all, I'd like to ensure you all who haven't bought the phone yet that you absolutely have to buy it and experience it for yourself before making any decision. After all, you usually have 14 days to return it. I say this because, while the phone is not "perfect" as many here on this forum have pointed out, it is probably one of the most aesthetically pleasing phones I've ever laid eyes on, and feels incredibly comfortable in the hand. Pictures DO NOT do this phone justice, and the overflowing screen, combined with the size and weight of the phone, gives an overwhelming feeling of vibrancy when holding/viewing.
(Cost) The phone is expensive, yes, but there's a reason for that: it's a top tier smartphone. If you haven't gotten used to a hefty price tag yet, then you must not have been in the market for long. If you can't afford it, get a OnePlus 3, but I can guarantee you it wont be as fine an experience. Most cell phone companies offer financing, anyway. Meaning, you make a small monthly payment for the phone itself over the course of the 1-2 years you'll be using it anyway, and if you decide to, you simply cancel service and pay the phone off. Most companies will then give you an unlock code, and the phone is then yours to do what you please with it, or bring it to another service provider. Either way, every dime you pay while financing brings you closer to owning it, if you decide not to buy it outright. I personally will probably just pay mine off when the price tag gets down to about $400 dollars.
(Delicacy or Lack Thereof) As I stated in the introduction, the phone is thin, comfortable, feels great in the hand, but the overflowing screen gives it a very large & vibrant appearance even though it doesn't FEEL that large in the hand. Does this mean it feels delicate and fragile? Not at all. Now that's not to say you wouldn't WANT to drop it, but for the most part, it's easy to handle, has the perfect weight to it, and doesn't feel fragile by any means. This phone is NOT going to scratch/break in your pocket, unless you're mashing your legs into the sharp edges of tables or falling onto it, or for whatever reason like to keep sharp objects in the same pocket as your phone. It's NOT going to scratch by simply setting it down on a table, or having it slide in between the seats of your car.
This brings me down to a point I've emphasized before: If you're going to buy a $900 phone? DO... not... drop it! I mean, honestly, lets be real here guys: accidents DO happen. However, it's those of us who are incredibly careful, who are capable of owning phones like these. If you're someone who is very clumsy, careless, active, etc., perhaps NO phone of this design type is meant for you. That is not the fault of the manufacturers. There are many phone manufacturers who build phones designed for DURABILITY. My last Galaxy, which wasn't exactly designed for durability, lasted me 2 FULL YEARS however, and has never been dropped once, nor does it have a single scratch. This phone IS durable though- it's durable for a phone of THIS make, this design, and trust me... this is a stylish designer phone, it simply is not an ACTIVE phone. If you want to turn it INTO an ACTIVE phone? Buy a damn Otterbox Defender. When you're hiking/rock climbing/playing basketball, whatever- you're going to have an ACTIVE Note 7 phone. Then when you're doing some casual driving, sitting at a desk, sitting anywhere at home really, at dinner with friends, or pretty much doing anything that's non-active, pop it out of it's case. You'll then, once again, have the nicest phone that anyone's ever laid eyes on.
To summarize the above, be a responsible phone owner, and you'll be fine. If you can't handle the responsibility of owning such an expensive product that was designed to be durable while keeping a fantastic overall appearance, don't buy it. You can't fault manufacturers for your lack of care.
(Battery Life) I've owned this phone for a little while now, and I've charged it approximately one and a half times (by a half, I mean plugged it in at 40-50% before leaving the house) per day. I keep High Accuracy GPS on, I keep brightness at 85-95%, I keep a multicolor 'Always On' display up, I have the "screen off" time set to 3 minutes, I have HD quality wallpapers for home & lock screens, and I keep WiFi on. I have yet to use any of the battery saver modes or capabilities. During the first few days of owning this phone, I would install back to back programs, take 15+ pictures while playing around with the different camera & video settings, record videos of my screen, experiment with the S pen, experiment with different mobile games, set up setting after setting, security feature after security feature, experiment with high quality video, stream YouTube & Netflix movies, the list goes on and on and I'm sure anyone who's ever owned a new phone knows exactly what I'm talking about.
During these times, my battery would last approximately 9 hours before falling to 20% or below. That's EXTREME HEAVY use, with battery draining functions, brightness, and high resolution screens, and no power saving whatsoever giving me 9 hours of use without even falling into critical battery levels. When I get down to around 20%, I plug it in and it takes about 40-50 minutes to charge back to 100%. If my battery is at 30% or higher, I simply plug it in and it's charged in 30-40 minutes or less. I have ONCE allowed my phone to fall below 10%, and it took no longer than one hour to charge to 100%. So yes, the battery is EXTREMELY good, and it charges extremely fast.
(Fingerprints) This phone will have fingerprints on it within just a few minutes of use, however, they are hardly noticeable unless you're actually looking for them. Once it gets marked up really heavily, which only takes about two hours of use to happen, it becomes a little more noticeable at a glance, but still, you have to be UP CLOSE to the phone to even notice. Now, I have EXTREME OCD, so this should bother me a lot more, right? No, it doesn't. What I do is keep 2 microfiber towels- one on my desk(where I spend a lot of my time) and one in my car. Whenever I pick up my phone after an extended period of non-use, I simply wipe it with the dry towel(takes 15 seconds) and viola- it looks like it JUST came out of the box again... brand new. When going somewhere, I do a quick wipe of the phone before exiting my vehicle- and viola. Brand new looking phone sitting in my pocket wherever I'm going. The gorgeous material of this phone is a worthy sacrifice for some barely noticeable fingerprints that can easily be rectified. Oh, by the way. BECAUSE of the material the phone is made of, it is MUCH EASIER to clean with said microfiber towels than the older plastic models, such as the S4. That one took at lot more scrubbing and hitting specific areas, and would also get smudge marks from the fingerprints being "wiped in" by the cloth, that were almost impossible to get rid of.
(The "oh so" Awful Speaker) This is one of the biggest critiques the phone has received, by both people on this forum, and review videos/articles/websites all across the interwebz. And I? I just don't see it. The speaker, to me, is LOUD. Now, it's not booming, bass boosted music cube quality, however... it is loud enough to where I could easily hear it ringing(depending on the ringtone) from across the house in another room. It's also loud enough to where I could play a video, turn the volume to max, set it about 50 feet away, and still hear it vividly. Also, I love the quality of the sound. It doesn't sound cheap, or poor at all to me. Non-speaker voice sound is crystal clear through this during calls. Sometimes if you hold the phone a certain way, you can block off the speaker since it's on the bottom, muffling the sound. However, muscle memory allowed me to quickly get used to preventing this after the very first time it happened. I never have a problem with the speaker being on the bottom, outside of the fact that I slightly prefer the headphone jack being on the top.
(Performance) Mentions of slow loading, TouchWiz lag, etc on this thread, I have yet to experience once. TouchWiz also has a much better interface now, especially after downloading a free theme that I liked. TouchWiz does not lag at all for me. Nothing on this phone loads "slowly" for me. I did a screen-record video of myself navigating different apps, games, etc on my phone, and literally sh** was opening within milliseconds of each tap, minus games, which, depending on the size/type of game, would take just a few seconds. I see no "slowness" in this phone whatsoever. There's literally not even delays between navigating pages on Facebook, switching from Facebook to YouTube and then from YouTube to Gmail and then from Gmail to a video on my phone. If I were to do all these app switches and loads in order of what I just listed, it would take no more than the time it takes me to open the Edge screen and tap the different apps. Game-play on games such as Mage and Minions is fluid, without noticeable frame drops, and without lag.
(Fingerprint & Iris Scanners) Fingerprint scanner works perfectly if you actually use it right, i.e., gently place your *entire* fingertip over the button. The iris scanner is not perfect, but it works 95% of the time and is FAST... VERY FAST when it does work. If you're looking for a "more secure" method of locking your phone- that's what it's for. It is supposed to be much more secure than the fingerprint scanner, and it's very fast as long as you do it right. Like, I'm talking, sometimes I don't even have time to see the "eye circles" appear on the screen. It just unlocks in a millisecond, as I'm already holding the phone in the correct position upon swiping up. Now, if you wear glasses or contacts, just skip the iris scanner. It is not 100% necessity, by any means, and your phone can be secured with simply the fingerprint scanner or a complex password. Not the end of the world.
Now, I do not consider myself to be a "Samsung fanboy," nor a "Galaxy fanboy." I do not dislike Apple Products outside of the fact that I think they're just a tad highly priced in comparison to Samsung(I know, the difference is becoming very slight, but even still). My wife has the 6s Plus, and it's a great phone. I do not work for Samsung, I do not work for any cell phone company at all, I am not paid to write any of the above. This was simply my unbiased response/personal review of the Note 7, that I was inclined to write after seeing so many negative comments on this thread in addition to a lot of misinformation. I WANT others to get the same experience I'm getting with my Note 7, and frankly, not be discouraged by others. So there you go.
Ace Ryan said:
If you haven't gotten used to a hefty price tag yet, then you must not have been in the market for long. If you can't afford it, get a OnePlus 3, but I can guarantee you it wont be as fine an experience.
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
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Eh, I'm not attempting to justify it so much as I am saying "it is what it is, and that there are affordable options for those who can't just buy the phone outright. For everyone else, and for those who do not care for the added specs, then there are a wide range of options out there. No doubt, the OnePlus 3 is a great phone for the price, and a good alternative for those who don't want to shell out the extra expenses. It is very much comparable in many ways, but as you said yourself, the Note 7 is better. I am, however, questioning the legitimacy of your statement that you own both phones after you stated your doubt as to people being able to tell the difference between 1080p and the display of the Note. Almost so much so, that I'd be willing to bet you're just a OnePlus3 owner. Maybe I just have good eyesight, but the HUGE difference between the phenomenal display of the Note 7 and the OnePlus 3 when put side to side was what made me go with the Note 7. Also, I can't speak for everyone, but I've owned this phone for a while now and have not experienced a single blip of lag. Then again, I don't use search functions for apps or settings due to the fact that I have a custom layout that has everything very easily accessible with a swipe and a click.
In terms of camera quality, yes, the OnePlus 3 barely falls behind. However, speed of focus, dark lighting, things like that, the Note 7 camera wins hands down.
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I am, however, questioning the legitimacy of your statement that you own both phones after you stated your doubt as to people being able to tell the difference between 1080p and the display of the Note. Almost so much so, that I'd be willing to bet you're just a OnePlus3 owner.
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Wow, Ryan, you're straight out calling me a liar on here when I typed a pretty reasonable response? How old are you, 14? anyway, i'd advice you stop making so many bad bets, cause you'd go broke.
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Wow, Ryan, you're straight out calling me a liar on here when I typed a pretty reasonable response? How old are you, 14? anyway, i'd advice you stop making so many bad bets, cause you'd go broke.
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I is that the p9 plus?
This phone is the best in 2016. Full of useful options and performance is awesome with a fantastic build quality
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I is that the p9 plus?
This phone is the best in 2016. Full of useful options and performance is awesome with a fantastic build quality
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Hi voodoo, yes that is a p9 plus. I like it a lot too, though, the note 7's rounded corners feels so much more comfy in my hands than the square edges of p9 plus.
I love mine! Completely happy with it. I feel like I got one of the better built ones? No light leaks, call quality is amazing compared to my iPhone 6, Note 4 N910W8, LG G4 and S5. Battery life a astonishing! Was out for 14 hours yesterday and had the screen on auto brightness 80-90% most of the time and an hour of Pokemon Go (brought my power bank in case never got to use it) at the end of the day it was still at 62%! Lol! I dont know if thats normal but I'm happy.
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Just finish Antutu 3D and got a 133565 score which is not bad for me. maybe its because I came from a note 4 my expectations are way low lol.
Love
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Hi voodoo, yes that is a p9 plus. I like it a lot too, though, the note 7's rounded corners feels so much more comfy in my hands than the square edges of p9 plus.
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I own a p9 plus also at moment and I love it, nevertheless the Note 7 is interesting for me.
Can you comment more on the differences?
I tried many devices and as I live in an area with poor reception one of the best things is that the p9 has absolutely unparalleled reception quality - also compared to the S7 Edge ...
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I own a p9 plus also at moment and I love it, nevertheless the Note 7 is interesting for me.
Can you comment more on the differences?
I tried many devices and as I live in an area with poor reception one of the best things is that the p9 has absolutely unparalleled reception quality - also compared to the S7 Edge ...
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Hi,
The biggest difference is that the Note 7 feels a bit more comfortable in the hand, due to its rounded sides compared to the P9 plus' square-ish sides. The software is, obviously, quite different too if used as is. but i use nova launcher on both so they behave closer now.
otherwise, there isn't that big a difference. again, i really don't see a difference between 1080p and quad HD display (i really tried putting the phones side by side and looking at various photos and apps and videos), and the Note 7 camera -- while probably the best overall -- isn't that much better than other cameras out there. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). in fact, i love the P9's gimmick camera features like light trails and night shot, which create really stylish photos that the Note 7 cannot.
as for speed, the P9, like the OnePlus 3, is actually a bit smoother than the Note 7. the Note 7 isn't bad at all, it's just slightly laggy/buggy because of TouchWiz.
overall i would still say the Note 7 is the better phone, BUT i can't stress enough that the difference between the note 7 and a Chinese flagship isn't that big ... not enough to justify the extra $300 or $400 to the average consumer.
i'd recommend the Note 7 for the following types of people:
1: people who don't think US$400 is a lot of money
2: people who really need features like waterproofing and stylus (say, if you are a lifeguard, or if you need to anecdote documents regularly, etc)
3: tech geeks who like to collect gadgets and own the latest/most buzzworthy thing (i am one of these).
4: loyal samsung fans who just want to stick with the company's products
that's about it. otherwise, to the average person -- someone who just buys a phone and uses one phone only for a year or two -- it's very, very hard to justify paying US$850 for the note 7 when the OnePlus 3 costs US$400 or the Huawei P9 Plus costs US$500.
Note 7 is underrated by these standards
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
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In performance, OnePlus seems amazing. However the reason I got the Note 7 as a expensive price was, Water Resistance/Proof for 1M 30 Minutes, Curved Screen and Design, Micro SD up to 256gb, Pen for drawing, Iris Scanner (For Wearing Gloves or wet fingerprint), 2K screen, (DPI doesn't matter but for VR, 2K+ definitively needed) Dual Camera and Powerful "Water-Proof" speaker. So far, I have used all these features and found them to be lacking in other phones. I did get Note 7 for Samsung Pay MST however Aussie support sucks so, just rooted and tripped knox.
The Screen is beautiful and curved that makes it appear bigger that it actually is without major size difference. The Water sealing without external ports is so easily to deal with and when i'm in the shower/bath the S-Pen actually helps. I kinda of just got this phone for the easy convenience features. Waterproof is a huge deal, specifically without external ports, it's a major design for people to get the phone. I hear sales people always advertising it and customers wanting it.
I don't own a OnePlus but I'm just saying despite this overpriced phone with it's security restrictions (Hate that) no other phone has all this. Not LG, not Nexus, not OnePlus, not Sony. I do like OnePlus open OEM policy, so no hate. Just hardware and general phone wise, Note 7 is worth twice the price.
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In performance, OnePlus seems amazing. However the reason I got the Note 7 as a expensive price was, Water Resistance/Proof for 1M 30 Minutes, Curved Screen and Design, Micro SD up to 256gb, Pen for drawing, Iris Scanner (For Wearing Gloves or wet fingerprint), 2K screen, (DPI doesn't matter but for VR, 2K+ definitively needed) Dual Camera and Powerful "Water-Proof" speaker. So far, I have used all these features and found them to be lacking in other phones. I did get Note 7 for Samsung Pay MST however Aussie support sucks so, just rooted and tripped knox.
The Screen is beautiful and curved that makes it appear bigger that it actually is without major size difference. The Water sealing without external ports is so easily to deal with and when i'm in the shower/bath the S-Pen actually helps. I kinda of just got this phone for the easy convenience features. Waterproof is a huge deal, specifically without external ports, it's a major design for people to get the phone. I hear sales people always advertising it and customers wanting it.
I don't own a OnePlus but I'm just saying despite this overpriced phone with it's security restrictions (Hate that) no other phone has all this. Not LG, not Nexus, not OnePlus, not Sony. I do like OnePlus open OEM policy, so no hate. Just hardware and general phone wise, Note 7 is worth twice the price.
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you make fair points. thanks for responding in a civil manner, unlike that dude AceRyan, who just accused me of being a liar.
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i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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you really did not see the mentioned flaws or defects when you bought the phone? I always check the things I buy before paying
As far as the phone, It's gorgeous. Minor things I don't like, but more or less, it's 5 stars.
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i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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@vodovodo- thanks for posting and making the video....was wondering, do you think the lack of build quality is because it is a non-US variant?
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i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
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Are you sure that is not light leak but rather light refraction?
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S10+, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S10+ is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm going back to Samsung after a short stint with OnePlus and Xiaomi (OP5T, OP6, Mi8, OP6T) and after seeing the S10 launch event let's just say I'm seriously excited. Pre-ordered the pearl white with the free buds surrendering an LG V40 ending up paying around 595 for it. Build quality, One UI, new cameras, display, FP reader, all high on my list for this phone. Can't wait!
Coming from a Pixel 3xl nightmare to the new Galaxy is a night and day experience.
The cutout is pretty minimal. I don't mind it at all and prefer it to the notch. I also really love the screen. For my older eyes it is really clear and vibrant. Amoled just keeps getting better. The screen is pretty much the entire face of the phone. Pretty impressive and much better solution than a pop up camera.
Battery life seems good, speakers are loud but tinny. They are stereo but most of the sound comes from the bottom firing speaker.
Haven't tried cameras yet.
So far initial impressions are very good. Very fast and responsive except the boot up time. One UI slows things down.
Otherwise this phone is one of the best from Samsung in a while. Build quality is also very good.
The galaxy buds are not a gimmick. I have tried other airpod knock offs and they are okay or terrible. These have impressive dynamic range and decent bass. They fit really well in my ear. I don't like bluetooth or earbuds but I have to admit I like these a lot. Would I pay $129-probably not but I would pay closer to $100. They are really nice to have for free.
When you think about what you get and the trade in offers it makes it pretty hard to say no!
If you can still get the preorder and free Galaxy buds or gift card and do the trade in it is hard not to recommend. It is really feels and performs like a premium device and I don't mean that in a bragging way but to say when you hold it, you can see the attention to detail that went into it and it feels impressive.
I'm enjoying the state of the art 10th anniversary S10+! Cheers
Overall one of the best Samsung Galaxy phones to date. Still wish I could have stock android officially from Samsung.
This is over all, simply the best smartphone ever made. I got mine on the 6th, and have been infatuated with it ever since.
When I unboxed my Prism White S10+, I wasn't impressed. Coming from a ceramic Mi Mix 2S, the S10 didn't feel more premium than my Mi Mix. The camera also wasn't that great, and the phone was actually slightly slower than my Mi Mix 2S running on the very fast MIUI. However, after a full day of using the S10+, my mind changed. At first I was ready to return the phone and get a Mi 9 or P30 Pro instead, but now I'm definitely keeping it. The display, the battery, the headphone jack, the galaxy buds, the design..... absolutely love it, already.
I want to love my new s10+, but I'm not feeling it yet, the fingerprint sensor is not as reliable as my old s9 or my wifes s10e, and the battery is draining faster then my s9+, on the plus side it has double tap tap to wake, which was one if my favourite features on the LG g4 back in 2015
Hoping it grows on me
Anyone notice how much faster the wireless charging engages?
It's as fast as my XS Max (yes, iphone! LOL).
Not the speed of the charging, just the sensitivity to activate. Also does not seem to be nearly as sensitive to placement on the pad. Both my Note 9 and S9+ are picky and if I'm not careful to make sure they are centered on the charger they either won't engage or stop which is annoying.
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I want to love my new s10+, but I'm not feeling it yet, the fingerprint sensor is not as reliable as my old s9 or my wifes s10e, and the battery is draining faster then my s9+, on the plus side it has double tap tap to wake, which was one if my favourite features on the LG g4 back in 2015
Hoping it grows on me
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Feeling the same way. I think it goes back next week! I've lost 15% battery in an hour and all I've done is read on these forums. Absolutely terrible!
Why did you do it Samsung?
Absolutely superb phone severely crippled by the worst implementation of an in screen fingerprint sensor yet. I got 100% success rate on my OnePlus 6T and about 95% on the Huawaei Mate 20 Pro. I was getting around 50% before the update on the S10+ which has now gone up to around 70%. There doesn't seem to be any consistency to it either. I can put the same finger in exactly the same place and get different results. Sometimes the lightest touch unlocks it, other times I have to carefully place my finger completely flat exactly covering the sensor and frequently it will just keep telling me to press harder. I love the rest of the phone but I'm not sure I can live with this sensor.
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I want to love my new s10+, but I'm not feeling it yet, the fingerprint sensor is not as reliable as my old s9 or my wifes s10e, and the battery is draining faster then my s9+, on the plus side it has double tap tap to wake, which was one if my favourite features on the LG g4 back in 2015
Hoping it grows on me
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Have you recieved the new fingerprint update? Makes the experience so much better.
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I first bought the normal S10, and then I switched to the S10 + but since the May update the fingerprint sensor was damaged. I wrote to Samsung Members they told me that with the new update the problem was solved but today I update it and it keeps the problem.
if you have good bandwith, grab this video with tubemate in 2160p 60fps and watch this video with the samsung player.
https://youtu.be/LXb3EKWsInQ
the image quality is just awesome!
you can zoom in and jump without any delay. Thats so ****ing crazy what a small smartphone can do in these days!
I love Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus
Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus works by Exynos 9825 (7 nm) - EMEA / LATAM and Qualcomm SDM855 Snapdragon 855 Plus (7 nm) - Processor USA / China.
The size of Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus is 6.8 inches, 115.4 cm2 (about 92.2% screen to body ratio) and 1440 × 3040 pixels, 19: 9 (495 dpi).
The screen is protected by Corning Gorilla glass and HDR10 + and always feature display. The smartphone is equipped with a non-removable Li-Ion 4300 mAh battery.
Sensors include Iris scanner, fingerprint (under screen), accelerometer, rotation, proximity, compass, barometer, heart rate and SpO2.
The smartphone is 162.3 x 77.1 x 7.9 mm (6.39 x 3.04 x 0.31 inches) and weighs 198 grams (6.98 ounces) with the battery.
Anyone from US could please tell me where to find Best s10 plus deal? I will travel to Orlando this month with my family and I was looking at Best buy ...599 unlocked with activation ... now dunno why 969!!! why Galaxy phones are so expensive over there !
Amazing.
Such and Amazing phone
My Next Stint with Samsung: Going Great!
Around this time last month my Annual Upgrade was available on my old EE Max Plan with my P20 Pro, i was tempted to wait it out for the Note 10 but decided against it and went with the S10+ instead
In general, Amazing Phone, Exynos SoC's aren't as garbage as they used to be which is great, Camera System is awesome, though i do miss the P20 pro's dedicated monochrome sensor, not the end of the world, the Monochrome Filter is pretty good.
Honestly, OneUI is amazing, its such a change from the old Touchwiz Skins of old, yes it is still a bit bloated but Nowhere as bad as Touchwiz was and a lot of Sammy's Bloat apps are optional now like Samsung Internet and Samsung Pay (Which i cant use because they don't Support Metro Bank like Google Pay Does) and Samsung Good Lock allows you to further tweak OneUI to get it how you want it to look, which is really nice!
Obviously the "big" drawback of the Exynos9820 is the 4G idle battery drain, which i can't account for how bad it was when the phone launched, but from what i've read its not nearly as bad as it used to be.
but then again i can unlock the bootloader so i guess that's nice
overall a great phone so far, and looking forward to spending the next couple of years with it, and many years after that.
Everything about the phone is great, but the horrible fingerprint reader makes me hate the phone. Why isn't there a category for the fingerprint reader?
I'm sitting on a fence I've been scooting on for the past 2 phone upgrades. I currently have a Note 9 and in my head, the natural choice would be a Note 10+. That had been my thinking until Sprint released the OP7 Pro 5G. I know all the specs and all the differences between both on paper. I guess maybe I'm trying to get someone to convince me one way or another. I don't think I've seen a screen better than the ones on Samsung flagships and I'm afraid I'd be trading down if I went OP7. I know about the 90hz screen but since I've never seen it on a phone, I could live without it since I wouldn't know what I'm missing out on. At the same time, my s-pen use has dropped dramatically since I first used on on the Note 4 and honestly, I never use it unless I'm cropping a screenshot, which is rare. Someone just slap the ish out of me and tell me what to choose -_-
Edit: Forgot to mention, I live in Dallas. So I'd have access to Sprints 5G, as rudimentary as it is now. Hence the fence sitting
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I'm sitting on a fence I've been scooting on for the past 2 phone upgrades. I currently have a Note 9 and in my head, the natural choice would be a Note 10+. That had been my thinking until Sprint released the OP7 Pro 5G. I know all the specs and all the differences between both on paper. I guess maybe I'm trying to get someone to convince me one way or another. I don't think I've seen a screen better than the ones on Samsung flagships and I'm afraid I'd be trading down if I went OP7. I know about the 90hz screen but since I've never seen it on a phone, I could live without it since I wouldn't know what I'm missing out on. At the same time, my s-pen use has dropped dramatically since I first used on on the Note 4 and honestly, I never use it unless I'm cropping a screenshot, which is rare. Someone just slap the ish out of me and tell me what to choose -_-
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Depends on how much you take selfies as well. The S-pen is good for snapping pictures like a remote that I enjoy. Also Dex to put the phone folders on the desktop is something that's cool. You're right though. Nothing beats the Samsung AMOLED screen. The screen is a little larger it looks like with the 6.8" than the One Plus at 6.67". Looks like the One Plus doesn't have wireless charging if you used that. Only other main differences is the battery on the Note 10+ is larger at 4300mAh vs the One Plus at 4000mAh. 91% screen to body ratio on the Note 10+ vs the 88.5% on the One Plus. I wouldn't worry too much regardless on which phone you get with 5G since 5G is very limited and very finicky right now. Sure, it might be better next year but they said it's a lot harder to maintain a 5G signal since it uses millimeter waves and much harder to penetrate through walls. I don't see 5G really getting steam until probably the end of next year going into 2021.
Water resistance. I own a pool that I use all the time and snap pictures of the family. The One+ it is t an option. Is this a few $100 to me... Yes.
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I'm sitting on a fence I've been scooting on for the past 2 phone upgrades. I currently have a Note 9 and in my head, the natural choice would be a Note 10+. That had been my thinking until Sprint released the OP7 Pro 5G. I know all the specs and all the differences between both on paper. I guess maybe I'm trying to get someone to convince me one way or another. I don't think I've seen a screen better than the ones on Samsung flagships and I'm afraid I'd be trading down if I went OP7. I know about the 90hz screen but since I've never seen it on a phone, I could live without it since I wouldn't know what I'm missing out on. At the same time, my s-pen use has dropped dramatically since I first used on on the Note 4 and honestly, I never use it unless I'm cropping a screenshot, which is rare. Someone just slap the ish out of me and tell me what to choose -_-
Edit: Forgot to mention, I live in Dallas. So I'd have access to Sprints 5G, as rudimentary as it is now. Hence the fence sitting
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10+ 512GB 5G. When using 5G, it's like you are in a different planet. Truest me. And, as everyone else dumps their cell phone because it doesn't support 5G, you'll already be where you want to be.
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Note10+. I had the same battle basically, in my mind. Screen, DeX, s-pen, IP68, wireless charging, WAY better camera (that's what made up my mind), most premium feeling and looking phone around... Samsung just has an amazing thing going right now. This phone is the most incredible piece of technology I've ever owned. I'm coming from a Note9, which I previously thought was basically unbeatable (only upgraded due to the amazing deals). SO glad I chose this phone.
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Note10+. I had the same battle basically, in my mind. Screen, DeX, s-pen, IP68, wireless charging, WAY better camera (that's what made up my mind), most premium feeling and looking phone around... Samsung just has an amazing thing going right now. This phone is the most incredible piece of technology I've ever owned. I'm coming from a Note9, which I previously thought was basically unbeatable (only upgraded due to the amazing deals). SO glad I chose this phone.
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I appreciate all these answers. Its definitely reinforcing a lot of the feelings I have for the Note series. I really do feel like if I choose the 10+, I'd be just as happy as this. But I've always had an itch to try something new once the shine of a new note wears off. Part of me feels that may be due to the almost insignificant jump from the note 8 to 9 and I have a feeling going from 9 to 10+ would be a lot more impressive. I still have time to decide, but I really wanted to put feelers out whole I could. Thanks so much, dudes :laugh:
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I appreciate all these answers. Its definitely reinforcing a lot of the feelings I have for the Note series. I really do feel like if I choose the 10+, I'd be just as happy as this. But I've always had an itch to try something new once the shine of a new note wears off. Part of me feels that may be due to the almost insignificant jump from the note 8 to 9 and I have a feeling going from 9 to 10+ would be a lot more impressive. I still have time to decide, but I really wanted to put feelers out whole I could. Thanks so much, dudes :laugh:
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Thing is, you'll get the opposite answer from OnePlus 7 forums. They'll tell you to get the OP7 Pro because of the 90Hz screen, no hole punch camera, faster updates, faster overall UI (I sincerely doubt that any UI could be faster than this Note10+ on performance mode, Nova launcher, and 0.5 scale animations though... This is INSANE), and Oxygen OS instead of Samsung's bloated UI. That's what they'll say, whether true or not. So I hope you put out feelers on both sides or the battle wasn't fair! Either way, this phone is better for ME. Not sure what's better for you.
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Thing is, you'll get the opposite answer from OnePlus 7 forums. They'll tell you to get the OP7 Pro because of the 90Hz screen, no hole punch camera, faster updates, faster overall UI (I sincerely doubt that any UI could be faster than this Note10+ on performance mode, Nova launcher, and 0.5 scale animations though... This is INSANE), and Oxygen OS instead of Samsung's bloated UI. That's what they'll say, whether true or not. So I hope you put out feelers on both sides or the battle wasn't fair! Either way, this phone is better for ME. Not sure what's better for you.
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That's exactly what I did, lol. Made basically the same thread on the OP7 forum to gauge both sides. I think I'll come down to me trying both out in store and getting a feel for both.
I might be able to offer another opinion for you, but with the same results.
I was a pretty loyal iPhone fan for the longest time since the 3GS. I had a couple of forays into the Android world, with the OnePlus One and LG V20, because like you, I wondered what it was like on the other side. I really liked the OnePlus One, but a bad customer service experience turned me off to them until the 6T came out and I decided to try them again. I had the phone for less than 48 hrs before I brought the phone back for another iPhone.
Fast forward to August 2019 and I fell in love with the Note 10+ instantly. I had always wanted one but the Note 7(?) fiasco turned me away. I went in to Best Buy one day and got some hands on time with it, and I was hooked. It's the first time I've ever pre-ordered a phone, it was very exciting. Now that I've been using the phone for awhile, I can honestly say it's been a great experience. Camera, screen and the Samsung ecosystem are all top notch. And, no buyers' regret!
Anything but the Note 10 or 10+ It's not all rosy as it seems, the camera quality is sub par and you'll be constantly disappointed when you open the camera to take a pic. Call quality is not great because of the weird placement of the speakers. 60Hz display seems retarded compared to 90Hz, huge difference. Now I don't know One plus 7 camera quality but Pixel 4XL will definitely have much better camera. So coming from another Note 10+ owner don't buy this iteration, it's basically crap. I owned a note 8 and 5 prior to this. My next phone will definitely be a Pixel or One Plus.
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Anything but the Note 10 or 10+ It's not all rosy as it seems, the camera quality is sub par and you'll be constantly disappointed when you open the camera to take a pic. Call quality is not great because of the weird placement of the speakers. 60Hz display seems retarded compared to 90Hz, huge difference. Now I don't know One plus 7 camera quality but Pixel 4XL will definitely have much better camera. So coming from another Note 10+ owner don't buy this iteration, it's basically crap. I owned a note 8 and 5 prior to this. My next phone will definitely be a Pixel or One Plus.
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The camera is not sub par. It may not be the best, but it is definitely in the top 3 or 4. Also I have never, ever had a problem with call quality although I think that front facing speakers do sound better, but call quality and sound as it pertains to music or video are two different things. Fact is, it is only loudmess is only slightly less strong compared to the S10 (+), which has front facing speakers. This iteration isn't crap, but is different. If you are yearning for the productivity of yesteryear, wait for next years Note (or maybe the year after that). The S line and the Note line will probably be merged and the Fold will more than likely inherit the S-pen and become the new productivity device. Remember, even though the Pixel and OnePlus are great phones, the screens and the technology everyone is raving about, comes from Samsung. They also made the screens for the 3 and 3a. As for the 60Hz v. 90Hz debate, yes it is a noticable difference, but does that mean the Note experience sucks. No it doesn't suck and the fast charging is comparable to the OP7 Pro and it also offers fast wireless charging, as well as reverse wireles charging. While not necessary, wireless charging is extremely convenient. You can find wireless chargers in coffee shops resteraunts, airports and even in a lot of newer cars. Its great to be able to just throw your phone on the dash while driving across town and still have all of its fuctionality while its charging. In my opinion the Note 10+ is a great phone; overpriced, but a great phone none the less. BTW, I do own both Pixel and One Plus devices, as well as Xiaomi, Vivo and Huawei. So I do have several phones that I can compare against.
I purchased from Samsung, big discount, extras, etc. Chose the 21 day trial option. I'm almost certain I will return the fold and keep my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. The fold is a very nice phone but some things I just can't get past. Weight, small front screen, much more difficult to do the everyday things I need my phone for in comparison to my Note 20. The Note 20 is a gorgeous phone and everything just works. Light, easy to handle, S pen with Bluetooth so I can operate the camera wirelessly. Speaking of the camera... Wonderful zoom capabilities that the fold does not have. Really dumb to pay so much for a lesser camera, no onboard S pen and no wireless connection for the pen. A huge plus for the fold is book reading. It works great as a tablet but for the everyday stuff it will need to be much thinner and lighter for me. Just my humble opinion.
Watch the S Pen experience section - that bigger screen always trumps the Note for me!
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I purchased from Samsung, big discount, extras, etc. Chose the 21 day trial option. I'm almost certain I will return the fold and keep my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. The fold is a very nice phone but some things I just can't get past. Weight, small front screen, much more difficult to do the everyday things I need my phone for in comparison to my Note 20. The Note 20 is a gorgeous phone and everything just works. Light, easy to handle, S pen with Bluetooth so I can operate the camera wirelessly. Speaking of the camera... Wonderful zoom capabilities that the fold does not have. Really dumb to pay so much for a lesser camera, no onboard S pen and no wireless connection for the pen. A huge plus for the fold is book reading. It works great as a tablet but for the everyday stuff it will need to be much thinner and lighter for me. Just my humble opinion.
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The Fold is not a replacement for the Note, it simply can't be. Maybe someday, when it's half as thick, when it has a built-in stylus and a slightly larger display to use on the fly as well as a better camera.
I love big pads, at the time I even bought the QTEK 9000 (someone will remember it for sure). But I can't bring myself to replace my Note 20 Ultra 5G with the Galaxy Fold 3, it's stronger than me.
One question: is it true that the Fold 3's hands-free calls are in mono and not stereo? A curiosity of mine that no review(in my mother tongue) says.
Yes, I did returned Z Fold 3. I didn't see much improvements over my Z Fold 2. I will wait for next Fold generation or new Note - if they still make it in the future..
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I did only to buy another BNIB off Swappa for $400 less!
No regrets here. Having a phone that doubles as a tablet is priceless.
I went from a N20U to this Fold 3, and in all honesty, I can't think of ANY reason for me to return this.
Is the Fold 3 Perfect? No, is it overwhelmingly better than the N20U or S21? No, but for what I, personally, use it for and the reasons I had to switch, yes, it is better for ME than the N20U.
All in all, I LOVE this phone and cannot think of any reason for me to switch back from a foldable phone anytime soon. It's the screen real estate and the usage of the inner screen that clinches it for me.
While it was being weird at first i LOVE the frontscreen the most actually. when i have to use a normal smartphone they feel alot bigger and unpractical to hold.
most people use their Smartphone with 2 hands. Samsung went the right way here. using front screen 1handed and bigger screen 2handed.
Nope, best smartphone I've ever owned.
cyberz said:
question: is it true that the Fold 3's hands-free calls are in mono and not stereo? A curiosity of mine that no review(in my mother tongue) says.
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Stereo phone calls don't exist
jeromepearce said:
Stereo phone calls don't exist
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Note 20 ultra 5G sounds hands-free calls from both speakers, so it is "stereo" obviously not hifi.
It is much better of only 1 speaker
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Playing from both speakers on a call is dual speaker mono.
Stereo implies a left and right (or more specifically channel 1 and channel 2) routed to corresponding speakers.
For a call to be actual stereo both mics would be used discreetly and the stereo signal encoded as stereo and sent to the recipient's speakers in the same fashion. Not exactly practical. ;-)
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cyberz said:
Note 20 ultra 5G sounds hands-free calls from both speakers, so it is "stereo" obviously not hifi.
It is much better of only 1 speaker
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I just checked. The sound comes out of both speakers.
What's strange is that the 'bottom' speaker (if you were holding the phone as a phone) is much louder than the 'top' speaker. I suspect that this has something to do with which microphone is used, so that the speaker doesn't interfere with it. With 4 microphones it's difficult to tell.
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I just checked. The sound comes out of both speakers.
What's strange is that the 'bottom' speaker (if you were holding the phone as a phone) is much louder than the 'top' speaker. I suspect that this has something to do with which microphone is used, so that the speaker doesn't interfere with it. With 4 microphones it's difficult to tell.
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Not only that. The top speaker isn't when located straight under tiny grill. It is located further down behind screen and uses a tunnel leading up to grill and out. So that might be a reason as well that sound is lower in that speaker than what it is on bottom speaker that sits right at grill opening with no space sort off between.
My Fold 3 is better for me than my last three Notes were. Utilizing the larger screen (And larger s pen) for my daily planner and calendar and all the handwriting I like to add is just light years better. The only single thing AT ALL that I miss from the note is the availability to add a quick note on a turned off phone w/ a black screen in one quick fail swoop without having to go through messing with the phone too much. Maybe somebody knows of a Bixby routine that might do something similar? Either way, the pluses over the Note series far out weigh the (single) negative. For me, of course.
Jake.S said:
Not only that. The top speaker isn't when located straight under tiny grill. It is located further down behind screen and uses a tunnel leading up to grill and out. So that might be a reason as well that sound is lower in that speaker than what it is on bottom speaker that sits right at grill opening with no space sort off between.
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Normal stereo doesn't suffer from this problem, though. If fact it's pretty amazing if you listen to a music that 'swirls' about from speaker to speaker, like some Beatles tracks.
I suspect the reason for the tunnel is the normal phone speaker and slefie camera in the way.
OJsakila said:
My Fold 3 is better for me than my last three Notes were. Utilizing the larger screen (And larger s pen) for my daily planner and calendar and all the handwriting I like to add is just light years better. The only single thing AT ALL that I miss from the note is the availability to add a quick note on a turned off phone w/ a black screen in one quick fail swoop without having to go through messing with the phone too much. Maybe somebody knows of a Bixby routine that might do something similar? Either way, the pluses over the Note series far out weigh the (single) negative. For me, of course.
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The only way Id get access on a black screen is if the phone was already open, since the front screen doesn't accept spen input. My Fold is set to turn on when I open it anyway.
[email protected] said:
I purchased from Samsung, big discount, extras, etc. Chose the 21 day trial option. I'm almost certain I will return the fold and keep my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. The fold is a very nice phone but some things I just can't get past. Weight, small front screen, much more difficult to do the everyday things I need my phone for in comparison to my Note 20. The Note 20 is a gorgeous phone and everything just works. Light, easy to handle, S pen with Bluetooth so I can operate the camera wirelessly. Speaking of the camera... Wonderful zoom capabilities that the fold does not have. Really dumb to pay so much for a lesser camera, no onboard S pen and no wireless connection for the pen. A huge plus for the fold is book reading. It works great as a tablet but for the everyday stuff it will need to be much thinner and lighter for me. Just my humble opinion.
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The Fold 3 is a specific device made for a specific kind of phone user. If the camera is a top priority, the Ultra phones from Samsung are for you. If you want a phone that is also a tablet, and you don't want to carry multiple devices and chargers, the Fold 3 is for you.
[email protected] said:
I purchased from Samsung, big discount, extras, etc. Chose the 21 day trial option. I'm almost certain I will return the fold and keep my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. The fold is a very nice phone but some things I just can't get past. Weight, small front screen, much more difficult to do the everyday things I need my phone for in comparison to my Note 20. The Note 20 is a gorgeous phone and everything just works. Light, easy to handle, S pen with Bluetooth so I can operate the camera wirelessly. Speaking of the camera... Wonderful zoom capabilities that the fold does not have. Really dumb to pay so much for a lesser camera, no onboard S pen and no wireless connection for the pen. A huge plus for the fold is book reading. It works great as a tablet but for the everyday stuff it will need to be much thinner and lighter for me. Just my humble opinion.
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people dont buy the fold 3 for its cameras
I came from an S21U and actually feel that the Fold 3 is a better phone so much so that I decided to trade in the S21U. Granted the S21U has a crazy amount of zoom and takes great pictures, the Fold 3 is no slouch either. I'm a photography enthusiast and know that I need to temper my expectations with the Fold 3. Having said that, it's not really bad at taking pics unless you start looking at pics with a magnifying glass looking for noise abberations, etc. which I don't. I love the fact that I can browse websites on a bigger screen.