Hello guys,
whats your opinion about charging Redmi note 5/Pro mobile battery from 0% to 100%, Is it really safe to do ?
As some user reported, charging from 0% to 100% may spoil lifespan of battery..
Whats your charging routine?? When do you guys start charging redmi note 5/pro ?? Share your opinion on charging routine
I usually change my phone about every 3 months so, i never worried about the health of my battery, i always charge from 0 to 100
No trouble full chargin. If u able, better to not discharge below 50%, as all lithium batteries, but influence of this behavior on battery lifespan is not measured.
Personally I feel anxious when see 30% left and charge at this time, but its only my habit
Madseb said:
I usually change my phone about every 3 months so, i never worried about the health of my battery, i always charge from 0 to 100
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What you will do with older mobile ??? Right now im charging my mobile from 15% to 100% (I will charge from 0 to 100% very rarely)
d1g1m4n said:
No trouble full chargin. If u able, better to not discharge below 50%, as all lithium batteries, but influence of this behavior on battery lifespan is not measured.
Personally I feel anxious when see 30% left and charge at this time, but its only my habit
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Yes.. thats good habit... I used to charge my mobile from 15% to 100%
for me , i will charge the phone anytime i needed
They say 50% to 80% is optimal for long term battery health.
But, who would do that. Charging from 0 to 100 isn't so bad if your phone lasts 2 days and if you keep the temps low.
I usually put on charge at around 30% sometimes ~40% if I'm going out and need a top up. Even when around 30% I usually average about 8hrs screen time over 24-36hrs, so batty life is good for me. Generally never run battery to empty, try to avoid ever going under 20%.
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SunilSuni said:
What you will do with older mobile ??? Right now im charging my mobile from 15% to 100% (I will charge from 0 to 100% very rarely)
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I usually selled or give it to someone of my family, right now im waiting a few months and i want the mi 8 explorer, but i dont know, is very expensive
I Always Charge My Phone When Battery Below 40% and Disconnect Charger When Battery Between 80% to 92%
100% Charge My Phone one time in 15 day
i charge mine between 20% or 15% upto 100%
not sure about depleting to 0. wasnt that for nicds batteries that had a memory but not lithium or lipos.. but yet again ive seen many articles about lipos not to discharge to 0.
its been a while since i knew about batteries when usw=ed to fly rc helicopters.. more then 10 years ago.
not sure whats new.. i also think fast charge affects battery life.
SunilSuni said:
Hello guys,
whats your opinion about charging Redmi note 5/Pro mobile battery from 0% to 100%, Is it really safe to do ?
As some user reported, charging from 0% to 100% may spoil lifespan of battery..
Whats your charging routine?? When do you guys start charging redmi note 5/pro ?? Share your opinion on charging routine
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Charge ur phone till 100% then charge extra for half an hour.. I felt the difference..it added extra time to the battery
Siddharth chauhan said:
Charge ur phone till 100% then charge extra for half an hour.. I felt the difference..it added extra time to the battery
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Will try that
Just charge however and whenever. Then replace the battery after 1-2 years
SunilSuni said:
Hello guys,
whats your opinion about charging Redmi note 5/Pro mobile battery from 0% to 100%, Is it really safe to do ?
As some user reported, charging from 0% to 100% may spoil lifespan of battery..
Whats your charging routine?? When do you guys start charging redmi note 5/pro ?? Share your opinion on charging routine
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its safe but when u do it it resets its log... so better do 20-70
It's best to stay between 30 and 70% but that counts for every phone
It is good to be concerned for your smartphone's heat but don't be too worried about it. What matters most is to enjoy using it and not being anxious for such things. Just try to not let it discharge completely and unplug it before it is fully charged when possible. As someone else said above, you can change the battery with a fresh one in a few years. I doesn't cost much. That's my personal opinion though
Xiaomi recommends to keep atleast 10% of charge all the time to extend battery
Any phone I used, charging no more than 95%, discharging no lower than 25%. In this range, I charge when I want, no rules!
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Hi,
I keep getting multiple views when search the forum regarding CORRECT method for charging One for first few times and then after. Kindly suggest if you know for sure.
Many Thanks...
as allways: full --> empty --> full
most say two or three times is enough
Do it again when you install a new ROM or kernel
StephanSch said:
as allways: full --> empty --> full
most say two or three times is enough
Do it again when you install a new ROM or kernel
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Thanks for quick reply...
don't know which thread but i remember reading about not to drain it down to zero, suggesting to charge when down to around 5%. Hence the dilemma.
Give a hint if you find it again. I haven't read it before
I'm doing as written and have a quite good (in comparison to what you are reading here) battery statistic.
Would you charge it power on or off for first few times?
veerm said:
Would you charge it power on or off for first few times?
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I don't know wether the advantages with new ROM/kernel take effect when it is off, so powered on.
Dankeschön
veerm said:
Hi,
I keep getting multiple views when search the forum regarding CORRECT method for charging One for first few times and then after. Kindly suggest if you know for sure.
Many Thanks...
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You have a li-poly battery, and a lithium polymer battery doesn't need any particular charge method or charge cycle... However there's two things you can consider doing for your phone's battery.
1. Charging the phone for a full 5 hour period (even if it shows 100% charged, keep it plugged in to the end of 5 hours) and then wipe battery stat in cwm recovery if your phone doesn't detect remaining battery correctly.
2. Charging it from 50% remaining battery life is much better than letting it go all the way down to empty!
(I know lots of people told you to let the battery drains completely and then fully charge your battery, but trust me, i'm an electronic engineer, I know better, both draining the battery to 0% and charging it to full 100% are bad for your battery life, those were for ni-mh batteries not li-poly)
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Exactly. No need to do full charges. Just plug it in whenever. If you are anal, then keep the charge cycling low. Eg keep the battery on a small band of charge state for example 50%-75%.
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srashedian said:
Charging the phone for a full 5 hour period (even if it shows 100% charged, keep it plugged in to the end of 5 hours) and then wipe battery stat in cwm recovery if your phone doesn't detect remaining battery correctly
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So, when the phone battery is down to 50%, we charge it.
And then when charged to a 100%, let it stay charged for an additional 5 hours, after that, or 5 hours TOTAL, from the time it is plugged in?
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So, when the phone battery is down to 50%, we charge it.
And then when charged to a 100%, let it stay charged for an additional 5 hours, after that, or 5 hours TOTAL, from the time it is plugged in?
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5 hours total, the point of this is to let your battery voltage go to it's maximum capacity (something around 4200mv, you can check the current voltage by dialing *#*#4636#*#* in your phone and going to battery information section)
And also note that full 5 hours charge cycle is just necessary when your phone doesn't detect your battery remaining percentage correctly... In normal situations just charging the phone from around 50% to almost 100% is an optimal charge method and you don't have to do the 5 hours charge...
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srashedian said:
5 hours total, the point of this is to let your battery voltage go to it's maximum capacity (something around 4200mv, you can check the current voltage by dialing *#*#4636#*#* in your phone and going to battery information section)
And also note that full 5 hours charge cycle is just necessary when your phone doesn't detect your battery remaining percentage correctly... In normal situations just charging the phone from around 50% to almost 100% is an optimal charge method and you don't have to do the 5 hours charge...
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The point you're trying to make is that for better battery life, it is important to re-charge when the battery falls to 50%, and not wait till it drops to 5-10%. Correct?
For Li-Po batteries, how low is it okay to let it go, before a re-charge?
C56X said:
The point you're trying to make is that for better battery life, it is important to re-charge when the battery falls to 50%, and not wait till it drops to 5-10%. Correct?
For Li-Po batteries, how low is it okay to let it go, before a re-charge?
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Exactly...
It's better to charge your phone between 35% to 75% (optimal value is 50%) and not letting it go under 35% but after all as I said there is no need for an specific charging method and this precautions just give you something like 25% more battery life (and battery life is overall life of your phone's battery before you have to replace it, not the 100%~0% duration)
Hi there,
I just got my phone and I thought the quick charging should charge my phone fron 0-80 in about 35 minutes...
I turned off the phone and from 0-35% took around 32 minutes which does not sound right...
Is it because the phone was turned off?
Or something needed to be set? Its the factory default charger.
Thanks in advance
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Did you literally just get it and plug it in, or did you run it all the way down to 0% and then plug it in?
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Did you literally just get it and plug it in, or did you run it all the way down to 0% and then plug it in?
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I did literally wait to go down to 0% and then I plugged in
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Well, the first thing you'll probably hear around here is never let it discharge all the way to 0% because it's bad for the battery. I'm guessing that, if you did let it go all the way to 0%, it might take a little bit to get going again, so the charging time would indeed be longer.
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Well, the first thing you'll probably hear around here is never let it discharge all the way to 0% because it's bad for the battery. I'm guessing that, if you did let it go all the way to 0%, it might take a little bit to get going again, so the charging time would indeed be longer.
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I am not sure why would it be bad for the battery?
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If you Google something like, "lithium ion battery discharge 0%", you'll find all types of reasons why it's possibly harmful to your battery.
Nope.
Mine charges to about 40% in 30 Minutes. That's normal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66920323
Don't worry about that 0% nonesense.
Smartphones are Idiotproof. You can't do anything wrong to damage them with normal usage.
Yes of course it's Bad for battery life (long term) if you drain it to 0% every day but until 4% is completely fine.
Why is it Bad to drain a battery to low? Take a look at the battery Voltage Graph in my Charging Chart. Charging is even more Voltage than discharging. If you use and App to check battery Voltage you will see about 3.7V at 4% and it Drops to 3.6.... 3.5..... 3.4V the closer it gets to 0%
Batteries don't like that.
Feels like my nexus 6 charger charges faster than stock HTC 10 charger
Don't just tell us about your feels.
Install the batteryLog app and let it run for a charge, then Export to file and show the csv here.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.hwangti.batterylog
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I am not sure why would it be bad for the battery?
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OK, quick look.
A Li_ion battery has a life cycles 400 - 500, that means battery can go from 100% to 0% normally 400 - 500 times, after that, battery will start to get problems, e g, you see it's 100% battery but in 30 minutes normal usage it goes to 0%.
If you charge the battery to 100%, then recharge it only if it gets down to 0% every single day, then after one year it's very likely you'll face the battery issues.
Yeah.... so if you recharge your phone not when it's at 0% but at 50% you will have around 800-1000 cycles...
AND you charge your phone about twice as much as the other guy who only charges at 0% so in the end you both end up with the same battery capacity after a year xD
P.S 400-500 life cycles means until the battery has 75% of its original capacity left, and not untill it's totally unuseable
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Yeah.... so if you recharge your phone not when it's at 0% but at 50% you will have around 800-1000 cycles...
AND you charge your phone about twice as much as the other guy who only charges at 0% so in the end you both end up with the same battery capacity after a year xD
P.S 400-500 life cycles means until the battery has 75% of its original capacity left, and not untill it's totally unuseable
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Exactly!
Hi, I recently bought a Lenovo P2, and so far it seems to me to be a great device.
The battery is great and I usually go to sleep with a 65-70% of charge.
So I have a doubt: Should I charge the phone every night, even if the battery is half charged, or should I wait the battery to reach 25-30% and then charge it?
Also, Does the fast charge ruin the battery if often used?
Thanks
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Hi, I recently bought a Lenovo P2, and so far it seems to me to be a great device.
The battery is great and I usually go to sleep with a 65-70% of charge.
So I have a doubt: Should I charge the phone every night, even if the battery is half charged, or should I wait the battery to reach 25-30% and then charge it?
Also, Does the fast charge ruin the battery if often used?
Thanks
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Wait for 25 to 30 percent and charge till 80 to 85 percent. It'll make your phone battery last really long!!!!
Why not till 100%?
Because these batteries are at their best between 20 and 80%. They don't like being run right down and charging them to 100% increases the wear on them.
So they will last longer by keeping them between 20 and 80%.
philje123 said:
Because these batteries are at their best between 20 and 80%. They don't like being run right down and charging them to 100% increases the wear on them.
So they will last longer by keeping them between 20 and 80%.
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So, those tricks I've read, about discharging till 15% and charging to 100% to calibrate battery, are useless?
Korax94 said:
So, those tricks I've read, about discharging till 15% and charging to 100% to calibrate battery, are useless?
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You read it wrong. To recalibrate the battery you must fully discharge ie. to 0% till the phone shuts down by itself, not to 15%. You can fully discharge once per month. To prolong the battery life span try to charge from 20 to 80%. I know charging up to 100% is nice, but all experts tell us that it's not good for the battery in a long run.
Even partially charging from 20 to 80% you still have ~8-10h SOT so all is fine, 2-3 days on a battery are possible.
Hi guys,
For those having the A70, does the "Super Fast Charging" feature work for you ?
With the original provided charger (with the "Super Fast Charging" logo on it), I need 3 hours to go from 9% to 100%.
So that is 1% every 2 minutes...
I do not consider this a "Super fast". I think it is "Decent" but would not go above that...
For me, this a severe disappointment... Unless of course I am doing something wrong
Anyone else can share his results for Super fast charging here ?
Regards.
Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.
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Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.
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Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !
Pe3ball said:
Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !
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Hi,
Thanks for the info => Super Fast Charging only with display off ?
So if I leave "Always On" it will not work ?
Maybe that is why...
Anyways, I did as you suggested : I have done a full factory reset, and I have installed the bare minimum of Apps.
We will see about battery drain an battery charging.
I'll keep you posted.
Best regards.
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Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled
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https://imge.to/i/8E6
Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled
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Hi Sufyan3D,
Thanks a lot for that info...
I've made sure that the fast charge is enabled.
So far, the device is still at 100% so I can't say if the problem is "solved", but I'll make sure to report if now it charges as it should
And also about battery drain...
Regards.
That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!
Pe3ball said:
That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!
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Hi,
So far, I cannot tell about the Fast charge.
But the phone is almost idle (really gently used) with "Always on" enabled.
It's been idle since about 3hours and battery is at 98%.
I consider this a rather good result.
Hope it'll stay as it is once I install all my apps...
If not, I'll try to track the culprit for the high battery drain.
Regards.
I have same problem, after reading your post, I drained my battery to 9% and charge, it so slow while charging.
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It's pretty fast just over a hour and near full charge from 20% , pretty solid so far took it of charge at 7am and at 7:30pm still on 54% and been on it all day taking photos /slow mo vids web browsing the norm and still going strong!! [emoji2]
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Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.
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Download a free app called "Ampere" from the Play Store, to measure your charging current. Plug the phone into the charger then open the App to get the measurements. Post your result here and compare with other A70 owners.
App shows that my charging current is around 1100mah (with the 25w charger)
I landed here as I was surprised how slow my A70 was to charge. It takes around 3 hours to get from 15% to full, using the included Samsung 3A charger & original cable. Ampere shows the current trickling in at around 850mA. Super Fast Charging is enabled. My previous phone was a Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite which charged at around 2A according to Ampere.
PS I found this link which suggests most of the fast charging happens early in the cycle https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/02/how-fast-is-samsung-25w-super-fast-charging
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?
dwl99 said:
Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?
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I've never tested it. I have fast charge turned off. I charge my phone over night. The battery lasts me all day every day.
Samsung A70 Failed!!
I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.
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I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.
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I am not facing such issues in my device. Regarding development, for a device like a70, development is always slow. We have the source codes available. The only thing missing is developers onboarding to support the device. If at least 1 dev puts the kernel and device source codes and tree in github, I bet development will start soon after.
GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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I took some readings with Ampere during a charge:
0 mins 8% battery 4050mA
30 mins 38% battery 1060mA
60 mins 52% battery 1050mA
90 mins 66% battery 1020mA
120 mins 81% battery 1080mA
150 mins 91% battery 1000mA
180 mins 100% battery
So 3h from nearly empty to full which is not exactly fast. Is this in line with what others get?
Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
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Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
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That's pretty weird
My 3a xl (about the same age as yours) doesn't use more than 10% max when left overnight. Are you using AOD or anything?
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@Skittles9823 nothing beside stock Android and apps that I've used forever. Strange is that it's occasional - also occassional is initial drain from 100% to 92%.
Maybe its time to flash it - nothing suspicious is shown in batt stats
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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@Skittles9823
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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I think popular wisdom is that both fast charging and in particular charging to 100% are not kind to the battery's longivety. Divided opinion about the effect of discharging to low percentages. Personally I charge to between 70 and 80% unless I know I'm going to need more capacity. 3a XL has a bigish battery, which helps. I recharge most nights but only to 70-80%. End of day I usually end up between high 40's and low 30's charge.
I manually set all apps I don't actually need to run in background to 'restricted' background use.
I charge mine up to a 100% often, when using it heavy.. I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it, unless you believe everything that is told or should I say sold to you.. Sounds like a faulty battery. If still under the 1 yr usual warranty I would have it replaced. I have drained mine down to less than 20% and still never experience any issue that OP state.
doubledragon5 said:
I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it
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Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
WibblyW said:
Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
doubledragon5 said:
I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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It's actually true. Lithium Ion batters degrade over time, the speed of which, depends on the amount of battery cycles they go through (0-100% and vice versa). Others have done the research and the math and found that generally a 20% to 80% and vice versa charge seems to be the best for longevity.
Personally I charge to 100 but try to charge my phone when it gets to 20-30%.
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doubledragon5 said:
I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
WibblyW said:
Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
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So very true my phone my money. In all my years of using cell phones, I think I have actually replaced a battery once because it went bad.
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
TodNex said:
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
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The included charger is a fast charger, good for headlining how fast it charges, not so great for the battery. I just use a 'standard' (Anker) USB charger.
Jury's out on if deeper discharge is bad, but it's the number of complete cycles (0-100% counting as 1). So 40 - 80% is 0.4 of a full cycle, and you're not stressing the battery so much by taking it to 100%. Many folk here replace their phones frequently enough not to be bothered by all this - if they sell it when 20% of the battery capacity's gone, that's fine.
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
TodNex said:
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
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The good news is that this phone seems to be pretty easy to repair and a battery replacement could very well be a good option for you, especially since you wouldn't be compromising any water resistance or anything