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Camera quality sucks compared to iphone

I travel and use my phone to scan documents, and my camera is suppose to be better than the iphones, it sucks, there is no way I get as good an image as my friends iphone does, whats the problem?
Actually closer to useless as a scanner.

Lino. said:
I travel and use my phone to scan documents, and my camera is suppose to be better than the iphones, it sucks, there is no way I get as good an image as my friends iphone does, whats the problem?
Actually closer to useless as a scanner.
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Root?
ROM?
Stock camera app?
Have you tried settings?
Have you viewed it on your comp yet?
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My camera take pics just fine..maybe you need to look in some settings, but if that's too difficult I'm sure someone would gladly trade you their iPhone. Cause that phone is useless indeed.
Ps.- bashing the phone in the section its in probably isn't a good idea. Most ppl here like their phone and calling it useless might make them less inclined to help you
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knipp21 said:
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My camera take pics just fine..maybe you need to look in some settings, but if that's too difficult I'm sure someone would gladly trade you their iPhone. Cause that phone is useless indeed.
Ps.- bashing the phone in the section its in probably isn't a good idea. Most ppl here like their phone and calling it useless might make them less inclined to help you
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bashing the camera yes, not the phone, yes I am rooted running stock rom, I have not messed much with the settings, have you tried taking a picture of a document and see how good of a scan you get?
I will look at the setting, but I have my doubts that I will ever get as good an image as the iphone.
Seriously HTC get it together, I should not have to carry an additional scanner.

Lino. said:
bashing the camera yes, not the phone, yes I am rooted running stock rom, I have not messed much with the settings, have you tried taking a picture of a document and see how good of a scan you get?
I will look at the setting, but I have my doubts that I will ever get as good an image as the iphone.
Seriously HTC get it together, I should not have to carry an additional scanner.
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You should mess with the settings or you're just not getting a good picture.
What app are you using? or are you just taking pictures and uploading them?
I have both the iphone 3GS and my Inc 2. I also have access to an iphone 4 and 4S and I have to say that the inc 2 camera is on par with the 4S camera which is supposed to have the best optics out of all the iphones.
I can post up results too if you like? Are you sure your lens isn't smudged? or possibly defective?

IPhone 4s and dinc2 both have 8mp cameras bro. Adjust your settings I know that when I was running stock 8mp wasn't the default

jrizk07 said:
You should mess with the settings or you're just not getting a good picture.
What app are you using? or are you just taking pictures and uploading them?
I have both the iphone 3GS and my Inc 2. I also have access to an iphone 4 and 4S and I have to say that the inc 2 camera is on par with the 4S camera which is supposed to have the best optics out of all the iphones.
I can post up results too if you like? Are you sure your lens isn't smudged? or possibly defective?
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So your saying I got screwed on my brand new phone.
I am not using any program just taking a picture, after all that's what my buddy does with his phone.
Maybe I will go by the Verizon store and see if the phone they have does better than mine.
My buddy had the iphone 4, and now has the 4S, and I have to say the document picture taken with the Dinc is no good at all.
I will post pics.

jrizk07 said:
You should mess with the settings or you're just not getting a good picture.
What app are you using? or are you just taking pictures and uploading them?
I have both the iphone 3GS and my Inc 2. I also have access to an iphone 4 and 4S and I have to say that the inc 2 camera is on par with the 4S camera which is supposed to have the best optics out of all the iphones.
I can post up results too if you like? Are you sure your lens isn't smudged? or possibly defective?
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yes post results of pictures of a document under normal lighting conditions, also of an object with normal/low lighting conditions with both the dinc2 and i4s, I would like to see that.
I really like this phone but I have to agree with the OP, it's difficult to get a good photo in doors with this phone, I got better pictures with my HD2!

iPhone image
Dinc

Lino. said:
iPhone image
Dinc
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Looks like you need to mess with the focus settings
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knipp21 said:
Looks like you need to mess with the focus settings
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And this was with my flash on, are you guys saying your phone does better?
Did you notice that part of my image was in focus and part was not.

I don't have the picture to compare it too but me and my cousin both took this picture him the 4 s me my stock inc 2 here's my pic but I don't have his mine came out a lot better and he agreed.
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aardvark502 said:
I don't have the picture to compare it too but me and my cousin both took this picture him the 4 s me my stock inc 2 here's my pic but I don't have his mine came out a lot better and he agreed.
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I have not compared the quality of pictures, just images of documents, if I am trying to focus binoculars, of cameras, I focus on trying to read something, but in this case I need the documents to mail them in PDF format after printing them.

I'd have to agree that the iphone 4s does have better picture quality. It is newer hardware after all. The dinc2 camera works perfectly for me though. You have to remember it's a phone with a camera, not a camera with a phone.

bluedegeon said:
I'd have to agree that the iphone 4s does have better picture quality. It is newer hardware after all. The dinc2 camera works perfectly for me though. You have to remember it's a phone with a camera, not a camera with a phone.
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yes, easy to make a camera and say it has 10 mega pixels, but focus it useless.

Lino. said:
iPhone image
Dinc
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iPhone 3GS
DInc2
To be honest you're never going to get the quality of a scanner from your phone, and indoor lighting is generally terrible as shown here.
I'll take a pic using the iphone 4S tonight and post it. I'm going to redo all 3 that way we can have a test with similar variables.

jrizk07 said:
iPhone 3GS
DInc2
To be honest you're never going to get the quality of a scanner from your phone, and indoor lighting is generally terrible as shown here.
I'll take a pic using the iphone 4S tonight and post it. I'm going to redo all 3 that way we can have a test with similar variables.
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I see the difference in the 3GS, better than the Dinc also.
I tried some scanner software but the quality was the same as a regular picture.

This is all I can post right now...all documents near me are labeled secret.
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Ps- sent in very low light

bluedegeon said:
I'd have to agree that the iphone 4s does have better picture quality. It is newer hardware after all. The dinc2 camera works perfectly for me though. You have to remember it's a phone with a camera, not a camera with a phone.
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Good point.
Lino. said:
yes, easy to make a camera and say it has 10 mega pixels, but focus it useless.
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What the heck does this have to do with the above post?!
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I think you need to adjust your metering in settings. I'm able to do that on cm7 not sure if its an option with the stock camera app, but the consensus is that the sense camera is better than the aosp camera. When metering mode is changed from center weighted to frame average on cm7 i get no focal spot blur like i do in a shot with center weight metering.
Maybe someone with a sense camera can chime in on what metering options are available with it but changing that might help your focal blur on documents
Center weighted. Text blur near top
http://db.tt/poAHpvtx
Frame average. No text blur.
http://db.tt/68qa9ALY
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Okay,
as promised. Test redone
iPhone 3GS
DInc2
iPhone 4S
You tell me what you think.

camera app

Does anyone have a recommendation for a great camera app that is better then stock camera app? I owned the Galaxy S2 before this phone and the pictures were so much better
Yes I know it has a 5megapixel on the nexus but when I say better pictures I mean colors matching up and the whole deal. 5megapix is plenty for a phone but I can't believe Samsung would put a lower quality sensor in their nexus line. They know the nexus line is a flagship line. Yes fewer megapixels but that doesn't mean lower quality sensor.

Have you tried Camera Zoom FX?
Might wanna give it a try.
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Camera Zoom FX. May still be on sale.
Skickat från Qs Mobilen (Galaxy Nexus)

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try

They need a trial version. I dont want to pay $2for an app that I can get the same features with for free

HTC One X vs. Galaxy S III - Camera Comparison (link with pics)

http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html

you've got to be ****ting me

Probably not Conclusive, but the General Consensus is......One X camera Kicks S3 Camera's ass.

hello00 said:
you've got to be ****ting me
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I'm not registering just to look at some pics. What's the verdict?

TommUK said:
Probably not Conclusive, but the General Consensus is......One X camera Kicks S3 Camera's ass.
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My thoughts exactly!

BarryH_GEG said:
I'm not registering just to look at some pics. What's the verdict?
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First pic GS3 - Second ONE X.
1.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITUFNCT3ZoNEdKZnc
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITU3pPRW1USDZQaGc
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https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITUl9mZTduWFhTTjQ
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITa0V6Rlp5bmpqYWs
3.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITdFpRSFYydTNTNms
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITNVFSVkxlQjN1NEk
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https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITZ1psUWg3VjRIOVk
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITcnMzdGVET2IzeXM
5.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITb0tEUHAyTTIwaEU
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITbGktSDNjLXE1VXM
6.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITcWNGN1RFOUJfX3M
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1LJQHKtWlITLTdKT1ByTnZHZFE

Also note that the One X's stock camera app is pretty aggressive with the compression. You want full image quality use a third party camera app

leftheodo said:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html
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Galaxy s3 can go suck apples...
We don't care about the galaxy s3. There are already a **** ton threads on it.
One X is sexy and that's all that matters.
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twistedh said:
Galaxy s3 can go suck apples...
We don't care about the galaxy s3. There are already a **** ton threads on it.
One X is sexy and that's all that matters.
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Easy man, I'm on your side! This is the first camera comparison between the two phones and the winner is clearly the ONE X.

Could someone post a couple of the Comparison pics on here for me and say which is which?
I'm on my Phone, and Google drive says I need to update my flash player to view the pictures

leftheodo said:
First pic GS3 - Second ONE X.
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Thanks for doing that. I didn't mean for you to have to repost the links because I was too lazy to register on the site.

leftheodo said:
Easy man, I'm on your side! This is the first camera comparison between the two phones and the winner is clearly the ONE X.
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Easy? Easy?!?! Growl!
I suppose we better get used to it, they'll be no end of comparisons while the gs3, HOX and iphone are fighting for top spot.
I'd like to see a gs2 vs gs3 comparison, to see how much they have actually improved.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Thanks for doing that. I didn't mean for you to have to repost the links because I was too lazy to register on the site.
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Not a problem. If I wasn't already registered i would be too lazy to register my self.

One X Camera FTW !

wow seriously. i hope these are accurate representations! Will be pretty happy

Just go here for more info, those links are really annoying lol
Nothing much known about the sensor SGS3 uses. It's S5C73M3 BSI sensor. Whereas HOX uses the Samsung sensor S5K3H2YX. This was one of sensors in SGS2. HOX has the same sensor used in SGS2.
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Indept Camera & Video Details

Both are equally good.

no, they're not equally good. The SGS3 has a yellow tint on it and is significantly less sharp.
Also.. picture quality has little to do with the sensor itself. It has all to do with optics.
(and from a photographers view: putting a 8MP sensor in a phone is bogus as no optics on a phone allow for that resolution on the sensor.)
But.. anyway: The SGS3 has the camera hardware not finalized. This might change until the first units ship. I promise that the yellow tint will dissapear in the SGS3 - but it will stay less sharp than the HOX.
But nevertheless, the HOX is significantly better. Really - and I don't own one but do consider myself a amateur photographer.
And one more thing on the sensor used: In that user review from "boodies" he talks about the sensor of the HOX being the same as in the SGS2. So what? It's just a sensor. The sensor does not get you image quality (read: sharpness). It get's you color accuracy and light sensitivity (together with the aperture).
No sensor can produce image quality (read: sharpness) as this is solely the part of the optics (read: the lenses). Nobody should give a damn about which phone uses which sensor. The images posted here clearly show the results: actual resolution, color accuracy and lighting is waaay better on the HOX.
period. (and I'm not a fan-boy - I look at the pictures alone)
I wish photographers would review smartphone cameras. Smartphone people know some stuff about user interface, CPUs and GPUs - but image quality is the topic of photographers.
Here's a mean statement: Maybe the yellow tint on the SGS3 is compensated by a blueish tint of the AMOLED ?

BarryH_GEG said:
I'm not registering just to look at some pics. What's the verdict?
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I'm uploading photos to my website so will post a link, you won't need to register to view them.
---------- Post added at 07:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 PM ----------
View Photos Here.
They are NOT full resolution. But a big difference between each photo can be seen.
http://www.htcmobileforum.com/album.php?albumid=1
The links to the full resolution photos is here:
http://www.htcmobileforum.com/showt...-Samsung-Galaxy-III-and-HTC-One-X&p=41#post41

I think it's really too early to judge. Software really matters here - I'll wait at least for the final device. Even HTC improved the camera with update 1.29 and I hope it's keep getting better. Too bad they have such aggressive compression

A favor to ask - regarding camera

Can someone PLEASE install vignette and try taking a photo with the stock camera and vignette?
I want to see if the compression and artifacting is software sourced....
I am so torn with regards to my next phone, and I have heard insanely amazing things about the One, but I am also a pretty avid mobile photographer and really appreciate a better than average camera....
Let me know if you try this and if you can, post the results?

Assuming the Vignette Demo (free version) would suffice?

m4rk0358 said:
Assuming the Vignette Demo (free version) would suffice?
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Don't think so, demo might not have full quality.

I have the full version. But its dark now. Do you need a daylight picture?
Sent from my HTC One.

josh995 said:
I have the full version. But its dark now. Do you need a daylight picture?
Sent from my HTC One.
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Yeah, Daylight..... no rush. I am just hung up on this camera.

drtchocky said:
Can someone PLEASE install vignette and try taking a photo with the stock camera and vignette?
I want to see if the compression and artifacting is software sourced....
I am so torn with regards to my next phone, and I have heard insanely amazing things about the One, but I am also a pretty avid mobile photographer and really appreciate a better than average camera....
Let me know if you try this and if you can, post the results?
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I honestly wouldn't go with the HTC One or the GS4 if you want a great mobile camera. Where the HTC One excels in average light and low-light, it is awful outdoors, and the 4MP's aren't anything extraordinary either. The iPhone5 has a slightly better camera than the One, and the 5S should be getting released in less than a month. I honestly hate referring you to the iPhone because it sucks everywhere else against Android. The 5S should be a getting a slightly improved camera which would put it as a good bit better than the One's camera. The GS4's camera isn't better than the One, but it does do better in bright lighting/outdoors and has a better MP count.
It is possible that the HTC One Max being released soon might be getting a better "Ultrapixel" camera than our non-phablet One's. Maybe look into that? Or the iPhone5S. I can't imagine the Nexus 5 being released in a few months would have a much better camera than last years Nexus, and not to mention it likely won't be on Verizon.
Also, the Moto X's camera is god awful.

Syn Ack said:
I honestly wouldn't go with the HTC One or the GS4 if you want a great mobile camera. Where the HTC One excels in average light and low-light, it is awful outdoors, and the 4MP's aren't anything extraordinary either. The iPhone5 has a slightly better camera than the One, and the 5S should be getting released in less than a month. I honestly hate referring you to the iPhone because it sucks everywhere else against Android. The 5S should be a getting a slightly improved camera which would put it as a good bit better than the One's camera. The GS4's camera isn't better than the One, but it does do better in bright lighting/outdoors and has a better MP count.
It is possible that the HTC One Max being released soon might be getting a better "Ultrapixel" camera than our non-phablet One's. Maybe look into that? Or the iPhone5S. I can't imagine the Nexus 5 being released in a few months would have a much better camera than last years Nexus, and not to mention it likely won't be on Verizon.
Also, the Moto X's camera is god awful.
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Isn't odd to anyone else that you can't get the holy trifecta of build/update/camera on one phone these days? I am almost getting to that point where I am paranoid that there's been a backroom agreement between manufacturers to only have 1 or 2 out of 3....

drtchocky said:
Isn't odd to anyone else that you can't get the holy trifecta of build/update/camera on one phone these days? I am almost getting to that point where I am paranoid that there's been a backroom agreement between manufacturers to only have 1 or 2 out of 3....
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Basically if you combined the iPhone5 and the HTC One specs and took the best of each, you would have the best mobile phone camera available. I tried out the Lumia 1020, not impressed in the slightest.

I have an HTC One and an iPhone 5 and I like the photos on the HTC One better. Although it could be the 1080p screen that's tricking me.
I have vignette and will take a stock camera + vignette pic shortly
Sent from my HTC One.

Syn Ack said:
Basically if you combined the iPhone5 and the HTC One specs and took the best of each, you would have the best mobile phone camera available. I tried out the Lumia 1020, not impressed in the slightest.
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I am inclined to agree. though, for my hands I'd prefer a 5 inch screen

The Sony i1 is being announced next week. G lens 20mp camera, expandable memory, etc. Might be worth waiting to see what they announce.

m4rk0358 said:
The Sony i1 is being announced next week. G lens 20mp camera, expandable memory, etc. Might be worth waiting to see what they announce.
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A sony phone on Verizon? think not.

Syn Ack said:
Basically if you combined the iPhone5 and the HTC One specs and took the best of each, you would have the best mobile phone camera available. I tried out the Lumia 1020, not impressed in the slightest.
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I agree with this completely. HTC got nearly everything right except for the camera. I'm hoping that the next iteration has slightly less bezel (think Moto X form factor) and a camera on par to whatever the 5S will have. If so, I'll be buying one at full price to replace this HTC One.

Ok I have taken 2 pictures, one with the stock camera and one with the Vignette camera. How would you like to see them? They're not the best pictures because it was lightly raining and I didn't want to get my phone wet so I was trying to keep the phone under the eve of my roof.

drtchocky said:
A sony phone on Verizon? think not.
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Why the doubt? There has been at least one Sony Android phones on Verizon before.

We also need to consider another factor. A camera is only as good as the photographer using it. I am by no means a professional yet in have seen great pictures and taken great pics with the HTC one that I would put up against the gs4 or the iPhone 5(I have owned all 3). The HTC one has many more options than either one of those cameras when it comes to exposure, shutter, white balance, etc. The camera editor is also great on this phone. If you use the correct scene it also helps a bunch as well.
Unless we are talking about enlarging the pic bigger than a 4x6 or 5x7 then that's where the One would fail and the GS4 or ip5 would clearly succeed. As far as posting to Facebook or instagram etc the one will be great .
Sent From My HTC One

josh995 said:
Ok I have taken 2 pictures, one with the stock camera and one with the Vignette camera. How would you like to see them? They're not the best pictures because it was lightly raining and I didn't want to get my phone wet so I was trying to keep the phone under the eve of my roof.
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just embed them in this thread?

Not a great morning here, cloudy/foggy, but heres a shot from both stock and vignette, respectively. Also attached a zip of the 2 since the pics would be altered due to size limits. The 'brighter' one (also taken fist, check filename) is the stock. Didn't get Vignette to focus well, and can only take 3.1M images, was on "superfine" with no filter.

For some reason Vignette can only capture up to 3.1MP on the HTC One, plus it doesn't do HDR either. I find it best to use the stock camera with HDR and then share with Vignette for the filters I want to apply. The photo comes out better than just using Vignette straight.

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For some reason Vignette can only capture up to 3.1MP on the HTC One, plus it doesn't do HDR either. I find it best to use the stock camera with HDR and then share with Vignette for the filters I want to apply. The photo comes out better than just using Vignette straight.
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if i used them yeah thats what you would have to do. HTC has an odd camera and pixel count, so i'm not surprised Vignette doesn't properly support it. They've always been good about resolving issues though, so theres hope.

[NOW WITH PICS] Any way to make pixel 2 take better photos than a 150$ Chinese phone?

LINK FOR THE PHOTOS COMPARISON: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gbq1kvzn2ea5wih/AAAaYfF7ORpUeygfMMGKYGEra?dl=0
Pixel tend to make pictures more warm, especially those snow shot. This is however not correct, the snow doesn't look that yellowish. The redmi is too cold, so it's not correct either.
Thes eye shot is a selfie, cropped for anonymity.
I received my pixel 2 xl and how can I say, I've never been so disappointed by a new phone ever (from the blue shift to speaker rattling at medium volume and pictures quality)
The worst part is the pictures it take, they look less good than my Redmi note 5 that i paid 150$.
My redmi is using a custom Gcam, the contrast and everything look similar to the pixel but there's much less noise and things look sharper (I'm not even talking about selfie in low light, the difference are staggering)
Anyway my question is, I know there's some custom Gcam on the pixel too. Do we need to be rooted to install them?? Do they make the pictures look better than stock Gcam. How is the noise control? Does everything work on those custom Gcam? I read about Cstark Gcam, but what about the other?
Thank you

von_block said:
I received my pixel 2 xl and how can I say, I've never been so disappointed by a new phone ever (from the blue shift to speaker rattling at medium volume and pictures quality)
The worst part is the pictures it take, they look less good than my Redmi note 5 that i paid 150$.
My redmi is using a custom Gcam, the contrast and everything look similar to the pixel but there's much less noise and things look sharper (I'm not even talking about selfie in low light, the difference are staggering)
Anyway my question is, I know there's some custom Gcam on the pixel too. Do we need to be rooted to install them?? Do they make the pictures look better than stock Gcam. How is the noise control? Does everything work on those custom Gcam? I read about Cstark Gcam, but what about the other?
Thank you
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Your Xiaomi's camera, even if with gcam, is not even comparable to Pixel's.
If it's like you say, your device must be faulty, ask for a refund/replacement.

Qwerty17c said:
Your Xiaomi's camera, even if with gcam, is not even comparable to Pixel's.
If it's like you say, your device must be faulty, ask for a refund/replacement.
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So the front camera and back camera are faulty?
The photos i take are similar to what we can see in pixel 2 sample i found on the web, but that's still noisy and grainy compared to what custom Gcam can make even in a cheap Chinese phone.
I don't think it's faulty, just normal Gcam that was tuned for speed to the detriment of quality. I'm even starting too think they Google intentionally cripple the picture quality of pixel 2 to not compete with future Gen.
Anyway, anyone have experience with custom Gcam on the pixel? I'm in the edge about returning it...

hahahaha wtf?! Redmi Note 5 better than the Pixel 2 at taking pictures??? Really?!
You do realize you're talking about one of the best smartphone cameras in the market, right? Just read any decent review or photo shoot comparison.
Either the entire world is wrong or you are. Hmmm I wonder which one is true.

von_block said:
I received my pixel 2 xl and how can I say, I've never been so disappointed by a new phone ever (from the blue shift to speaker rattling at medium volume and pictures quality)
The worst part is the pictures it take, they look less good than my Redmi note 5 that i paid 150$.
My redmi is using a custom Gcam, the contrast and everything look similar to the pixel but there's much less noise and things look sharper (I'm not even talking about selfie in low light, the difference are staggering)
Anyway my question is, I know there's some custom Gcam on the pixel too. Do we need to be rooted to install them?? Do they make the pictures look better than stock Gcam. How is the noise control? Does everything work on those custom Gcam? I read about Cstark Gcam, but what about the other?
Thank you
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Don't talk if u don't know what you are saying, please

hthiengo said:
hahahaha wtf?! Redmi Note 5 better than the Pixel 2 at taking pictures??? Really?!
You do realize you're talking about one of the best smartphone cameras in the market, right? Just read any decent review or photo shoot comparison.
Either the entire world is wrong or you are. Hmmm I wonder which one is true.
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I'm not talking stock camera, it's incredibly bad you're right, I'm talking customised Gcam.
Yes the pictures are currently better than the pixel. I spent my whole day yesterday comparing it and the only place where pixel is better is at guessing color temperature. However this can be fixed in 5 seconds in snapseed.
Anyway, nobody can answer my question. I will need to reopen the box and try to install custom cam... However i can't unlock the bootloader or root or I won't be able to return the phone.
I should probably try to post it in another section, people here don't seem to know how Gcam work.

Yakusha said:
Don't talk if u don't know what you are saying, please
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Why are you surprised?
Gcam on pixel phone stack only about 10 pictures when doing it's HDR+ where custom one on any phone can stack 32 pictures! The result is less noise, that's how Gcam work and that's why i get less noise on the redmi. The downside of it is it's much slower, it take about 5-10 seconds to process the picture, sometime more in low light, but the result is totally worth it.
I'm quite sure a custom Gcam on the pixel will be better and faster (especially if it can use the dedicated Gcam processor) than what i can get on the Xiaomi. Stacking 32 pictures with the pixel core should not take longer than 2 seconds! I'll investigate.

von_block said:
I'm not talking stock camera, it's incredibly bad you're right, I'm talking customised Gcam.
Yes the pictures are currently better than the pixel. I spent my whole day yesterday comparing it and the only place where pixel is better is at guessing color temperature. However this can be fixed in 5 seconds in snapseed.
Anyway, nobody can answer my question. I will need to reopen the box and try to install custom cam... However i can't unlock the bootloader or root or I won't be able to return the phone.
I should probably try to post it in another section, people here don't seem to know how Gcam work.
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Since you're saying, it must be true. Why don't you go ahead and post some of those pictures so we can compare them as well (with metadata, of course)? I wanna see those horrible photos and compare them with the magnificent ones you're taking with the Redmi Note 5.
There's not one single photo I've taken with my Pixel 2 XL during this entire year that's as bad as you described. Not ONE. So, please, stop trolling around.

von_block said:
Why are you surprised?
Gcam on pixel phone stack only about 10 pictures when doing it's HDR+ where custom one on any phone can stack 32 pictures! The result is less noise, that's how Gcam work and that's why i get less noise on the redmi.
I'm quite sure a custom Gcam on the pixel will be better and faster (especially if it can use the dedicated Gcam processor) than what i can get on the Xiaomi. I'll investigate.
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We are talking about quality, not about number of shots in hdr^^

hthiengo said:
Since you're saying, it must be true. Why don't you go ahead and post some of those pictures so we can compare them as well (with metadata, of course)? I wanna see those horrible photos and compare them with the magnificent ones you're taking with the Redmi Note 5.
There's not one single photo I've taken with my Pixel 2 XL during this entire year that's as bad as you described. Not ONE. So, please, stop trolling around.
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That's not my goal, but when I'm back home I'll show some exemple.
Anyway, I'm losing my time here, I'll post in a place where they know how custom Gcam work on the pixel.

Yakusha said:
We are talking about quality, not about number of shots in hdr^^
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Ok, nevermind, babye

von_block said:
Ok, nevermind, babye
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W8 a second please now I'm interested..
Are you talking about resolution, colours or luminosity?

Yakusha said:
W8 a second please now I'm interested?..
Are you talking about resolution, colours or luminosity?
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They are both the same. Like i said pixel is better at temperature guessing though (even though i think it make things a bit warmer).
The only difference is noise. That's why i want a custom Gcam to stack more picture thus reducing noise. I don't care if it take 5 seconds to process the image. Anyway I'll try at home.
I'll post my experiment later!

Just a suggestion for the OP: if you just ramble on about a Redmi being better than the Pixel 2 XL at taking shots with both cameras, you'll only be laughed at in this forum and anywhere on the internet.
If you want to start a reasonable and hopefully productive discussion, just upload some comparative shots taken by you

Qwerty17c said:
Just a suggestion for the OP: if you just ramble on about a Redmi being better than the Pixel 2 XL at taking shots with both cameras, you'll only be laughed at in this forum and anywhere on the internet.
If you want to start a reasonable and hopefully productive discussion, just upload some comparative shots taken by you
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I've unpacked the return box of my phone and configuring it as we speak.
I got this Pixel for 160$US during a black Friday promo in Canada. If I'm thinking about returning it, is because something is really wrong.

Hooray.
I've downloaded custom Gcam. No need to root!
The result look very promising.
Already much less noise and much sharper compared to stock Gcam! I might keep the phone after all!

As the saying goes, "Pics or it didn't happen"
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

No, hang on.. I believe the OP's claims that his Chinese phone takes better pictures than the 2 XL. I also believe in fairies and goblins..

mwatson said:
No, hang on.. I believe the OP's claims that his Chinese phone takes better pictures than the 2 XL. I also believe in fairies and goblins..
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Whatever, yes stock cam is not the best.
And yes, custom Gcam improve the performance.
Anyway, I decided to keep the pixel finally.
I fixed the rattling sound by pushing the speaker grill and I'm getting used to the blue shift.
I'll try to give sample photos tomorrow of pixel vs Redmi. The difference will surprise many in here! I'm still hesitating about which one is better... People think pixel are great at pictures because of hardware but really, it's all about the software and the AI algorithm.

von_block said:
Whatever, yes stock cam is not the best.
And yes, custom Gcam improve the performance.
Anyway, I decided to keep the pixel finally.
I fixed the rattling sound by pushing the speaker grill and I'm getting used to the blue shift.
I'll try to give sample photos tomorrow of pixel vs Redmi. The difference will surprise many in here! I'm still hesitating about which one is better... People think pixel are great at pictures because of hardware but really, it's all about the software and the AI algorithm.
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I don't think it's another thread/forum you're looking to for answers. I am a semi professional photographer, in the sense that it is my side job and took classes for it. The past 2 years I have tested a good 10+ phone cameras ranging from Mate10pro, 1+, G7/G6, Ipxs, etc. I ended up with the pixel because of it's amazing photo quality. Anyway, all you have to do is post comparison pictures, without them your statement is worthless.
" My Samsung J3 takes better pictures then a Nikon D7500 can somebody explain this. I won't provide pics to prove it just take my word. Ok I'll provide pics, tomorrow. "