Guys can anyone explain the utility of the second camera??
For night time shoots low light lens
Ranop11 said:
For night time shoots low light lens
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Lot of reviewers are saying it doesn't have any effect on low light photos
2nd lens is for taking pictures when light level is below 10 lux, for portrait mode and for autofocusing.
But in reality, the mechanism involved for taking low light pics is kind of useless and the end result is gimmicky and useless.
it's for bokeh effect and depth sening
AlMaghraby said:
it's for bokeh effect and depth sening
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Nope you're wrong. The depth effect and bokkeh on one plus 5t are software based
Docxsido said:
Nope you're wrong. The depth effect and bokkeh on one plus 5t are software based
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if so try to block the other lens while trying to do portrait
AlMaghraby said:
if so try to block the other lens while trying to do portrait
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The have the same focal length bro, they can't do a hardware bokkeh
Docxsido said:
The have the same focal length bro, they can't do a hardware bokkeh
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they can
one is collecting depth data the other is photo
also the portrait mode is limited to a distance where there is focusing contrast
Docxsido said:
The have the same focal length bro, they can't do a hardware bokkeh
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Try this...
Yep it's basically useless lens. Cheap way to make it more attractive for noobs
It's low light camera. I can definetly see them switch sometimes.
Also has a wider FOV (i don't know why), look at 1080p 60. Although i think that is without the EIS cut-in.
Also the bokeh effect can be done by having one focus near (at face) and one focus far (at landscape), and the bits in focus at far are blurred more. It is basically software, but with two lenses it can be better.
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Everyone knows the weakness behind our Back Camera.. but does everyone know how POWERFUL our front facing camera is? I bet you didn't know you can crank the ISO to 12446 on the front facing camera
You can now take selfies in almost pitch black rooms (and come out grainy, but visible).
Inside the "Selfie" mode, click on EV +2 and go into a dark room.
Your image will automatically being super grainy but you'll be able to see yourself like no other!
im_high_tech said:
Everyone knows the weakness behind our Back Camera.. but does everyone know how POWERFUL our front facing camera is? I bet you didn't know you can crank the ISO to 12446 on the front facing camera
You can now take selfies in almost pitch black rooms (and come out grainy, but visible).
Inside the "Selfie" mode, click on EV +2 and go into a dark room.
Your image will automatically being super grainy but you'll be able to see yourself like no other!
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It worked...night vision now?
Isn't that an awesome trick?! I love it!
im_high_tech said:
Isn't that an awesome trick?! I love it!
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Yes...it's weird it only works on front camera and not on regular one...but yeah! Takes photos on pitch black room
Does anyone know if the rear facing camera has an IR filter on it? That may explain this, because if the rear facing camera has a filter but the selfie one does not, the selfie camera will let in more "light", and use ambient IR to illuminate your face slightly more. That's just my best guess.
Joren.ideas said:
Does anyone know if the rear facing camera has an IR filter on it? That may explain this, because if the rear facing camera has a filter but the selfie one does not, the selfie camera will let in more "light", and use ambient IR to illuminate your face slightly more. That's just my best guess.
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The reason you can do this with the front is because the camera used is exactly the 4UP sensor from the M8 which has larger pixels for better low light performance
Hello guys,
Ive been playing with my mi6 for a while and noticed a strange thing. Photos captured at 2x look actually more like a digital zoom than an optical, even though the resolution is the same as 1x. When you actually cover the left camera lens, the picture is still normal. No matter if you choose 1x or 2x.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
You can explicitly set the lens on manual mode.
marinespl said:
You can explicitly set the lens on manual mode.
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Thanks, you da real MVP!
Where can you change that? Still on MIUI8.
it does that in low light shots, cause the tele lens is so bad at low light that it prefers to shot in main camera and zoom it in.
sources : miui forum? red it when i bought it
ZackoFF96 said:
it does that in low light shots, cause the tele lens is so bad at low light that it prefers to shot in main camera and zoom it in.
sources : miui forum? red it when i bought it
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That's right, the telephoto sensor has 1.00µm pixel size at f/2.6 aperture, while the main sensor has 1.25µm pixel size at f/1.8 aperture.
Hi
Just wondering, when will the monochrome camera of the two cameras be used in real life scenario.
1.Will it always be used along with colour camera?
2.Will it be used when recording video?
I know wide aperture mode will definitely use both cameras. But for normal photos when I blocked monochrome camera, the colour camera still takes the same picture quality.
It can be used alone, and yes it is used to work with the RGB sensor, as for videos, they both work at the same time
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Hi
Just wondering, when will the monochrome camera of the two cameras be used in real life scenario.
1.Will it always be used along with colour camera?
2.Will it be used when recording video?
I know wide aperture mode will definitely use both cameras. But for normal photos when I blocked monochrome camera, the colour camera still takes the same picture quality.
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While clicking normal pictures, both sensors are used. The monochrome sensor captures more light and hence, used for improving the shadows and details in a picture.
I haven't blocked the monochrome sensor while taking regular pictures.
If you did, then do post some samples of both scenarios.
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san.cspro said:
Hi
Just wondering, when will the monochrome camera of the two cameras be used in real life scenario.
1.Will it always be used along with colour camera?
2.Will it be used when recording video?
I know wide aperture mode will definitely use both cameras. But for normal photos when I blocked monochrome camera, the colour camera still takes the same picture quality.
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Can we see a sample photo? One using both cameras and one blocking the monochrome sensor.
Yes, attaching the pics. One with both cameras unblocked. One with monochrome blocked. I don't see any difference in the camera settings, resolution, and quality. This is taken in normal photo mode.
Pic 1 is monochrome blocked.
The difference might be noticeable in low light conditions
san.cspro said:
Yes, attaching the pics. One with both cameras unblocked. One with monochrome blocked. I don't see any difference in the camera settings, resolution, and quality. This is taken in normal photo mode.
Pic 1 is monochrome blocked.
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I can see the minute difference. The one with unblocked monochrome sensor is a bit brighter than the one with blocked monochrome sensor.
The different isn't much noticeable here but it surely will be in low light conditions or scenes with high dynamic range.
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san.cspro said:
Yes, attaching the pics. One with both cameras unblocked. One with monochrome blocked. I don't see any difference in the camera settings, resolution, and quality. This is taken in normal photo mode.
Pic 1 is monochrome blocked.
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At first glance, the difference is prominent. Left picture is brighter.
I dont see much difference betweeen the two pictures as such as the monochrome sensor is advertised as a big deal. But really we need more samples. I will do what I can when I get time.
Ultimately, I believe that the RGB camera is a real good one as we are getting good pictures out of the single camera! That's nice.
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I dont see much difference betweeen the two pictures as such as the monochrome sensor is advertised as a big deal. But really we need more samples. I will do what I can when I get time.
Ultimately, I believe that the RGB camera is a real good one as we are getting good pictures out of the single camera! That's nice.
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I completely agree.
san.cspro said:
I dont see much difference betweeen the two pictures as such as the monochrome sensor is advertised as a big deal. But really we need more samples. I will do what I can when I get time.
Ultimately, I believe that the RGB camera is a real good one as we are getting good pictures out of the single camera! That's nice.
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Try some low light shots.
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san.cspro said:
I dont see much difference betweeen the two pictures as such as the monochrome sensor is advertised as a big deal. But really we need more samples. I will do what I can when I get time.
Ultimately, I believe that the RGB camera is a real good one as we are getting good pictures out of the single camera! That's nice.
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Do a photo in a dark area, you'll see difference
PalakMi said:
The difference might be noticeable in low light conditions
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I have heard it's much better using the B&W sensor to take pictures in lowlight situations.
iceepyon said:
I have heard it's much better using the B&W sensor to take pictures in lowlight situations.
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That's what honor claims, I didn't have a chance to test it
iceepyon said:
I have heard it's much better using the B&W sensor to take pictures in lowlight situations.
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Of course irs better.
Does anyone have any issues taking a picture of their dogs, or anything moving? I noticed if I take a picture of my dogs, even if there's a slight movement after the shutter is pressed, the picture comes out blurry. I don't know if this is worth the RMA from Samsung? I'm using auto mode.
yep. any movement blurry
zikronix said:
yep. any movement blurry
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but isn't that what the dual pixel AF and OIS suppose to take care of lol
xterminater07 said:
but isn't that what the dual pixel AF and OIS suppose to take care of lol
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Yes but even in auto i couldn't get a non blurry pic
OIS compensates for your small jitters or vibration as you take the picture. It can't compensate for subject movement.
Doesn't pro mode help with the blur?
Blurry S9 photo?
Turn off the HDR setting. Even Iphones have trouble with ANY motion and HDR. The Samsung is taking 12 photos and stitching them together -- ANY difference between the 12 will soften or blur the final photo. TURN IT OFF.. I NEVER liked HDR anyway. I leave it off.
I came across a video on YouTube which shows how we can take better photos with the Rog Phone 2 using the Google Camera.
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What are your thoughts?
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Manoj Mahtani
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I've seen several of these comparisons, and I often prefer the stock camera images over the Gcam images. The ones of the toy car and phone in that video are prime examples.
I suggest learning manual controls. Even if you don't use it in normal shooting, understanding what's going on with settings will help you take better photos. Remember, only you know what kind of photo you want, not some random programmer that never met you. Because of that, auto modes can be hit and miss, and understanding manual controls will allow you to quickly adjust for those times auto mode isn't working for you.
We need to make a camera thread, the photos from this phone are actually good without gcam
Jjallda9 said:
We need to make a camera thread, the photos from this phone are actually good without gcam
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Lol. They are? The camera on this phone blows.
This phone struggles a lot in low light without gcam, tested both night mode on stock vs gcam
zed011 said:
This phone struggles a lot in low light without gcam, tested both night mode on stock vs gcam
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No ois, it will never be good.
suzook said:
Lol. They are? The camera on this phone blows.
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In good lighting it does much better than what I would have expected, and compared to my iPhone 11pro they are not horrible. Now taking photos at night that's a different story .
Jjallda9 said:
In good lighting it does much better than what I would have expected, and compared to my iPhone 11pro they are not horrible. Now taking photos at night that's a different story .
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Lol. iPhone 11 and rog2 in daylight? No contest. Rog2 looks like Nexus 4.
suzook said:
No ois, it will never be good.
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OIS is over-hyped anyway for a phone. The range of motion to correct isn't very big with such a small sensor. I've seen a test video of the electronic stabilization, and it worked extremely well.
Mr_Mooncatt said:
OIS is over-hyped anyway for a phone. The range of motion to correct isn't very big with such a small sensor. I've seen a test video of the electronic stabilization, and it worked extremely well.
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What do you think nightsight does? It uses ois in nightshots for better images. You have no clue. Move along.
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suzook said:
Lol. iPhone 11 and rog2 in daylight? No contest. Rog2 looks like Nexus 4.
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I just uploaded a couple photos, I'm no photographer but these are pretty good.
suzook said:
What do you think nightsight does? It uses ois in nightshots for better images. You have no clue. Move along.
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From https://www.blog.google/products/pixel/see-light-night-sight/
If your subject moves during the capture, Night Sight can adapt to prevent a modest amount of motion from ruining the shot. Instead of capturing one bright and blurry photo, Night Sight captures an equal amount of light over a burst of many photos that are dark but sharp. By merging this burst, Night Sight prevents motion blur and brightens the photo, giving you a bright and sharp photo.
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As you were saying?
suzook said:
No ois, it will never be good.
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That's not true I have a pixel 1 with no OIS and it's fine in night mode
zed011 said:
That's not true I have a pixel 1 with no OIS and it's fine in night mode
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My V20 has it and I can get maybe a notch slower shutter speed than without. Not much difference. If it was something like Pentax's full frame DSLR, that gives 5 stops of shake reduction, that would be a big difference.