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Poll-Rhodium Android Development Sub-forum Request!!!

I am posting this only because I am sick, as many of us are, of searching through 10 forums/sub-forums, polls and bountys just to get the information on updates to Android running on our TP2's.
Please vote!!!
Doing this to hopefully get the attention of the mods.

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Any other takers?

I voted. I wish all applicable phone forum groups would have an Android sub-forum in them. It would surely clean up the forums a lot!

i definately agree that we should have a sticky for this, would make things much easier to have everything in one place, a one-stop forum for all that is android

87 page threads can be a little tough to sort through too. Hopefully having their own forum will allow them to decompress a little and let noobs like myself get a better idea of the progress without investing enough time to read war and peace. +1 for an Rhodium Android subforum.
no, I like searching in umpteen different places. 4 10.00%
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There's never a shortage of wisenheimers on the interwebz.

I dunno this survey question seems iffy

I would definitely like this - there needs to be more threads for Android on Rhodium as things develop, and they need to be kept together. A sub-forum would fit the bill perfectly.

great idea!

I think a subforum would be a great idea...

You could say the same things for any of the more popular WM ROMs too though, e.g. threads with thousands of responses are out of hand and very hard to manage.

steviewevie said:
You could say the same things for any of the more popular WM ROMs too though, e.g. threads with thousands of responses are out of hand and very hard to manage.
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Yeah, what this guy said, + the Android sticky; [email protected]

I think what we really need is a mod to close all the Android threads. Then someone who cares about keeping stuff up to date (Read my vote as reefermattness) start a new thread.

I think it is becoming cumbersome to try to sift through all of the threads and post to see if anything has been updated on the XDAndroid project. It would help a lot to see it all in one sub-forum. It would help to clean up the other Rhodium forums also.
Everyone keep up the great work and keep showing all of our support for Android for Rhodium!

an idea whose time has come

schwalbach said:
I dunno this survey question seems iffy
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I think bringing it to the attention of the mods may help things. Because there is so much development why not have a sub forum to weed through instead of getting it mixed up with the great Roms that are listed in this sub.
demonicronin said:
I think it is becoming cumbersome to try to sift through all of the threads and post to see if anything has been updated on the XDAndroid project. It would help a lot to see it all in one sub-forum. It would help to clean up the other Rhodium forums also.
Everyone keep up the great work and keep showing all of our support for Android for Rhodium!
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Exactly what I am trying to say.

stop being lazy and search/read
or you can go here for one stop information
Android 1.6/2.0 on the HTC Rhodium
just joking around with you guys. Also, just want to give you guys couple links that is working for me (the above and my signature)

i think it is still too early to request an adroid subforum...first get everything to work...then request it
since not everything works
anyway this subforum isn't called "wm rom development",but rom development..so it is totally reasonable that such threads go here
so please triplecheck before you request something...

farukb said:
i think it is still too early to request an adroid subforum...first get everything to work...then request it
since not everything works
anyway this subforum isn't called "wm rom development",but rom development..so it is totally reasonable that such threads go here
so please triplecheck before you request something...
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Except it's not a ROM yet, so I guess it shouldn't belong here. And it's not an application so it shouldn't belong in the Apps sub-forum either.
So let's call it Android Development!

biscuits1978 said:
Except it's not a ROM yet, so I guess it shouldn't belong here. And it's not an application so it shouldn't belong in the Apps sub-forum either.
So let's call it Android Development!
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+1

fortunz said:
87 page threads can be a little tough to sort through too.....
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Imagine having to sort through a 797 page thread.... *cough* NRG *cough*
I do agree that we should have a subforum here though, because I never know where to look for TP2 Android port updates, and it seems like if i do find a dedicated thread, theres someone saying to check "the other thread" for more information on one aspect or another... It would be great to have it all in one place!

[STICKY?] The Best/Fastest ROM

Since most of the stuff happens here, I'd like to inform you guys about some rules,
Quote from Forum Moderator kennethpenn:
Looking for the best ROM? The fastest ROM? Head over to the development section and try a few for yourself. We do not allow threads asking about the best/fastest ROM at XDA. Please do not create threads comparing ROMs.
Thanks!
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969555
The same rules apply here, so follow them!
Forum Moderator eagleeyetom:
eagleeyetom said:
I can't agree more. Which ROM is the fastest? Which kernel is best? etc. etc. It's like walking into a bar and asking which drink is the best. You can't get your answer because every person around has a personal taste and looking for something different.
Going further. Telling that one ROM is better than another is quite disrespectful to developers. Most of them spent much time making their work for FREE and one guy can easily depreciate their work.
If you're looking for answer - try. It's easy and making it on your own is much funnier than looking for spoon feeding in every situations. Thinking is fun
Just my 3 grosz.
Thanks!
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I can't agree more. Which ROM is the fastest? Which kernel is best? etc. etc. It's like walking into a bar and asking which drink is the best. You can't get your answer because every person around has a personal taste and looking for something different.
Going further. Telling that one ROM is better than another is quite disrespectful to developers. Most of them spent much time making their work for FREE and one guy can easily depreciate their work.
If you're looking for answer - try. It's easy and making it on your own is much funnier than looking for spoon feeding in every situations. Thinking is fun
Just my 3 grosz.
Thanks!
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... is there actually something wrong, or?

Forewarning: This is going to be a rant but please take it lightly. I mean no harm and this isn't in direct relation to any specific entity but as a community together. This isn't going to be a perfect how to and will lack a lot of structure and information. I just really want to get a point across, that's all. Admin's, please don't ban me for this either. If there's something wrong, message me and I'll alter it or remove it. I'm genuinely fed up and as a moderator I'm sure that you'll understand at least a few points in this post.
I've been coming to this website for the last few years on and off, between phones and to check up on reviews and content before I make a purchase. XDA-Developers is a fantastic site, however it has a long way to go as a community. I appreciate the developers and the work that everyone within this community put into enhancing our products. From mods that give us basic features, because let's face it, huge companies aren't that great - to the point of adding features that no one thought was previously possible. We have fantastic developers and community members here everyday putting in their hard work and effort to better us and to improve.
However, I feel like there's something lacking. Lacking by a large amount. I feel like some people are mentally challenged. Half assed and lazy. Rude. Arrogant. Fools. The list goes on for words that are degrading to ones self and to tell you the truth, I'm absolutely sick of it. This is a forum dedicated to information, mods, releases and ideas. Yet we have, almost the entire time, people complaining, winging, throwing racist, sexist and abusive slurs around. Thank God for the moderators! BUT!! It has to stop.
I'm sick of coming to this site, trying to find a new ROM or an awesome mod and having to sift through HUNDREDS of repeated questions, over and over and over. Tens of pages, often hundreds for big general threads. I don't care if you hate people of a different skin colour, or if you think that such and such developer's kids are a bunch of brats. Those types of discussions have NO PLACE for a website like this.
When I go ROM shopping, I'll go to the index thread because I don't frequent this site and sifting through the correct sub-forums and all the useless threads, all the threads that have the same topic as the one before it and so forth, well, it's just a lot easier for me. From that index thread, I'll have a few dozen tabs open. Though I'll immediately close any tabs that DON'T HAVE information about the ROM or Mod. The features it has. Change logs and or screenshots. I'm generally left with anywhere between two to five threads. That's a lot of work being overlooked because YOU as a developer don't incorporate that into your main post or anywhere that's readily available.
Then you'll have hundreds of users asking the same question and before you know it, that six hundred page thread on your ROM could really be one or two pages at most. Please, for the love of God, add information. If you're going to make the effort to developer or alter software, at least give us information about what you have done. Sure it's a lack on my part, but you're not going to go door knocking to sell your vacuum if your vacuum is in a box with a questionmark and all you say is that it's good for people who live at home, are you? What's in the box? What features does it have? How have you altered it? What's the best way to obtain it? Simple things that I see EVERYDAY that people don't seem to give a rats ass about.
There was a developer here recently that created the ONLY ROM that I was happy using on my LG G3. He ended up stopping his work because people would post abuse and not follow some simple rules that he laid out. YOU as a community, drove a fantastic developer away, and you only have YOURSELF to blame. But what can you do about that? CHANGE!!
You make a choice, everyday to do the things you do. Don't ever blame someone else and please be kind to one another. Encourage each other to produce better work! Encourage each other to outperform, to go past your barriers. I'm sick of going to forum sites and reporting people for calling others idiots because they mistakenly overlooked the download section, or their Adblocker stopped the download server page for loading which is something that happens all the time and not a lot of people know that's the cause. We all make mistakes, everyday, I'm sure you ( the ones calling others idiots ) do things just as idiotic but in a different fashion.
So, what are some simple things we can do to enhance the quality of XDA Developers?
1.) If you're a developer -
- Lay out your threads nicely. Formatting is essential. If I wrote this entire thread without paragraphing, I assure you no one would read it.
- Take the opportunity to learn photoshop for nice visuals, or at least take screenshots!! I hate going through a 45 minute install only to find out that it looks terrible.
- INFORMATION!!! CHANGE LOGS!!! LINKS!!!
- Make it clear about what you are doing and what your goals are, what do you hope to achieve?
- Give us a bit of background - it's always a nice added bonus to read. Just a short paragraph. Sometimes it helps, it's like hearing an annoying sound, but once you know what that sound is, it doesn't disturb you.
2.) If you're a user -
- Don't be racist, sexist, abusive.
- Be KIND TO ONE ANOTHER.
- Research!! Take a second to read the first few posts of a thread, not everything is in the first post as some people like to lay things out over two or three with a reserve.
- Don't be afraid to ask questions, and don't be afraid to answer them! For every question you ask, make the effort to answer two others.
- If someone calls you an idiot, report them, don't fuel the fire.
3.) For everyone -
- Don't post something that doesn't; add to the topic, benefit anyone, isn't genuine.
- Be kind.
- Follow the rules.
- Open your eyes.
- INFORMATION!!! This is a site full of it. Acquire its potential.
- Think about what you post.
- Proof read what you've put up!!!!!! I can't comment on how many times I've sat there for half an hour trying to figure out what the developer is trying to say.
With all that said, I hope you all have a fantastic day / night and stay safe, stay hydrated. Sleep well and eat well. Your brain works better if you do, or at least eat a Snickers chocolate bar.

Tldr version, devs post more info/screenshots on your roms, members, respect devs and other forum members.

Ignoredddd. You going for some sort of internet upvote award, maybe change a few words, post it on reddit, and add some kittens.

RYARNI said:
Ignoredddd. You going for some sort of internet upvote award, maybe change a few words, post it on reddit, and add some kittens.
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you just proved his point with your comment

Well, unless XDA agrees to put people who don't read into readonly for a week or so, things won't change. Only mass bans and readonlies can make people who don't read and don't listen understand...

@Curleyyy Even though I completely agree with the statements you made and airing off your views is good for sanity, even if you post this epic rant in every thread in the sea of device specific threads on XDA you will never ever change peoples attitudes to forum posting. Frankly you can't call it a true community if everyone has an alias and avatar, we offer information and maybe 90% have a kosher reason or genuine interest with the satisfaction of anonymity, unfortunately with anonymity also comes the troll who comes to spoil the party. This is not Facebook or google+ my friend, it is only an exchange of specific information (with a certain amount of order), an open-source library of sorts, but at least it works and that is a testament to the mods which do a great job filtering out most of the dross!

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Rom Flashing

If anyone is flashing ROMs please keep the discussion on the current rom. I could have posted this in a specific rom thread but it is everywhere. No Dev wants to hear oh this rom is better or try out this rom. If you want the devs to stay donate to them and try to encourage and help the devs instead of saying how bad the rom is. This is one if not the worst thread I've ever seen. Moderators virtually don't exist this can be archived or whatever once people see and realize that they can't be trashing devs.

Apollo2000 said:
Moderators virtually don't exist
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Apparently you don't entirely get how this place works. Nor appreciate that there are 10s of thousands of threads with 100s of thousands of posts in many hundreds of Fora. And >8m members of all shapes and sizes.
When was the last time you raised a report? Like the post you commented on because it wasn't in English recently... we review every ACTIVE forum very regularly, but also expect members to report issues so they can be dealt with, one way or another. I personally clean literally hundreds of threads of dross routinely.
I understand your frustration, but unless you and others make a little effort to report genuine issues...
How is this thread directly related to the Moto G5 Plus? - It isn't, so thread closed.

Achievements on xda and bunch of useless/nonsense threads

This is total BS, because of achievements on xda forum now we have bunch of useless/nonsense threads.. please do something about that.
"Special" people are posting total BS threads just to get achievements(including multiple same threads in different sections).
You can say same for this thread . Yeay, i got new achievement . Haha, really gonna get it after I'll post this!
Ok, seriously, i hope you get the point. And yes I already reported bunch of them, this is never ending story.
Again, please do something, it's becoming really painful to find decent threads and not user friendly.
Let me give you an example same threads, same posts, same files and it isn't even his work:
[ROM] [Unofficial] [7.1.2] /e/ OS by @Android-Andi [SHARED]
===== /e/ OS for Tab 2 ===== WARNNG : I have no role in this project. I am just sharing it. Your data is YOUR data! WHAT IS /e/ ? : https://e.foundation/about-e/#what-is-e WHY /e/ ? : https://e.foundation/about-e/#why-/e/ WHO IS /e/ FOR...
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People sharing someone else's work,
is older than XDA, certainly older than achievements.
Probably older than the wheel.
They should be asking for the Dev's permission and giving credit.

drnightshadow said:
This is total BS, because of achievements on xda forum now we have bunch of useless/nonsense threads.. please do something about that.
"Special" people are posting total BS threads just to get achievements(including multiple same threads in different sections).
You can say same for this thread . Yeay, i got new achievement . Haha, really gonna get it after I'll post this!
Ok, seriously, i hope you get the point. And yes I already reported bunch of them, this is never ending story.
Again, please do something, it's becoming really painful to find decent threads and not user friendly.
Let me give you an example same threads, same posts, same files and it isn't even his work:
[ROM] [Unofficial] [7.1.2] /e/ OS by @Android-Andi [SHARED]
===== /e/ OS for Tab 2 ===== WARNNG : I have no role in this project. I am just sharing it. Your data is YOUR data! WHAT IS /e/ ? : https://e.foundation/about-e/#what-is-e WHY /e/ ? : https://e.foundation/about-e/#why-/e/ WHO IS /e/ FOR...
forum.xda-developers.com
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When you don't know what has happened, you shouldn't report a thread. I didn't even get a single achievement for making this thread. The thread was made way too early when I just joined XDA so how do you think I will get an achievement ??? I myself am reporting spam threads from two days or so. Just don't say anything if you don't know. (Sorry everyone else cause I sound too rude but this is second time I've had a battle with this man and I seriously don't know what is his problem.)
And about your problem regarding multiple same threads in different sections, yeah I did a grave mistake and I'm sorry . Though I am a senior member, I am quite new to everything. I came here for learning some things but it seems like "some Dev's" don't at all like new people.

Arc android said:
When you don't know what has happened or what is the story, you shouldn't report a thread. I didn't even get a single achievement for making this thread. The thread was made way too early when I just joined XDA so how do you think I will get an achievement ??? Just don't say anything if you don't know. (Sorry everyone else cause I sound too rude but this is second
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And yeah it's me who posted the thread.

Arc android said:
When you don't know what has happened or what is the story, you shouldn't report a thread. Yeah, the thread's posted by me. I didn't even get a single achievement for making this thread. The thread was made way too early when I just joined XDA so how do you think I will get an achievement ??? Just don't say anything if you don't know. (Sorry everyone else cause I sound too rude but this is second time I've had a battle with this man and I seriously don't know what is his problem.)
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sd_shadow said:
People sharing someone else's work,
is older than XDA, certainly older than achievements.
Probably older than the wheel.
They should be asking for the Dev's permission and giving credit.
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Extremely sorry sir. I'll tell you what exactly happened. The rom is actually made by @Android-Andi and he didn't post it on XDA. So I sent him a PM asking permission to share his work on XDA but got no reply at all. Then I saw his profile and he was last online in 2020 and I also read his comments here and there which said he has left development and source is open for everyone and all that. I assumed that he either forgot to make a thread or got too busy with life so I made it for him. I know I've not fully taken permission to share his work but I somehow wanted everyone to come across this. Hope I've not done something really wrong. I have not modified it or uploaded it somewhere else or anything, I've just shared it.
Later, @Badger50 who knew all of this also moved the thread to general section of the device. He pointed me to right direction regarding which links should I give, I should share kernel source and almost everything.

He didn't post it???? Kmm
[ROM][7.x][unified] Slim7
Slim7 Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified) [#WHATSSLIM] Slim7 is the project name for SlimRoms based on Android 7.x Nougat and offers the following original features: Slim Navbar & Hardware key rebinding Single tap action, long press...
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I don't know maybe I'm blind
And in same post you have permission.
You didn't read it nor used search.
But it's not the point. The point is, you double post same thread, same files. That's my problem! It is to hard to understood that?
@Badger50 moved thread after my report.
Don't get wrong I'm not against sharing but not multiple times.
I think @sd_shadow missed the point.

drnightshadow said:
He didn't post it???? Kmm
[ROM][7.x][unified] Slim7
Slim7 Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified) [#WHATSSLIM] Slim7 is the project name for SlimRoms based on Android 7.x Nougat and offers the following original features: Slim Navbar & Hardware key rebinding Single tap action, long press...
forum.xda-developers.com
I don't know maybe I'm blind
And in same post you have permission.
You didn't read it nor used search.
But it's not the point. The point is, you double post same thread, same files.
Badger50 moved thread after my report.
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You give me link of Slimrom 7 and ask me he didn't post project /e/ ????Anyway the thread's fully updated and I'm not going to do any more edits to it.
Regarding your double post same threads and files, didn't I tell you it was a mistake ??? And I got punishment too cause the unified thread is closed.

I don't at all want to get wrong

drnightshadow said:
This is total BS, because of achievements on xda forum now we have bunch of useless/nonsense threads.. please do something about that.
"Special" people are posting total BS threads just to get achievements(including multiple same threads in different sections).
You can say same for this thread . Yeay, i got new achievement . Haha, really gonna get it after I'll post this!
Ok, seriously, i hope you get the point. And yes I already reported bunch of them, this is never ending story.
Again, please do something, it's becoming really painful to find decent threads and not user friendly.
Let me give you an example same threads, same posts, same files and it isn't even his work:
[ROM] [Unofficial] [7.1.2] /e/ OS by @Android-Andi [SHARED]
===== /e/ OS for Tab 2 ===== WARNNG : I have no role in this project. I am just sharing it. Your data is YOUR data! WHAT IS /e/ ? : https://e.foundation/about-e/#what-is-e WHY /e/ ? : https://e.foundation/about-e/#why-/e/ WHO IS /e/ FOR...
forum.xda-developers.com
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XDA Achievements isn't fully rolled out yet, but will be in early June. We'll be making changes to it so it makes more sense and properly rewards people for being good members the community and avoid people posting junk like this. Thanks for your feedback!