Hello,
Lately, my note 8 started to feel warm while I'm using it...
So I decided to watch CPU temperature using System Tuner:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.pmw
First, temperature of the atmosphere here nowadays is about 35c to 40c...
for my note 8:
In idle mode, temp is about 40c, while normal using (wifi off, bluetooth off) like watch videos, using apps,
CPU temp is about 50c and battery is ~38c to 40c
sometimes while gaming, CPU temp could reach ~60c
The tab from the back left side is feeling warm
Is these temps normal??
What's your readings?
Note: I'm rooted on stock 4.2.2, and I didn't modify anything..
I just set the max freq at 1GHZ after overheating
AhmadLight said:
Hello,
Lately, my note 8 started to feel warm while I'm using it...
So I decided to watch CPU temperature using System Tuner:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.pmw
First, temperature of the atmosphere here nowadays is about 35c to 40c...
for my note 8:
In idle mode, temp is about 40c, while normal using (wifi off, bluetooth off) like watch videos, using apps,
CPU temp is about 50c and battery is ~38c to 40c
sometimes while gaming, CPU temp could reach ~60c
The tab from the back left side is feeling warm
Is these temps normal??
What's your readings?
Note: I'm rooted on stock 4.2.2, and I didn't modify anything..
I just set the max freq at 1GHZ after overheating
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Removing, disabling, or freezing Google Play Music will fix battery drain and temperature issues. Though there are thousands of apps that are buggy, since everyone has different tastes there is no real way to point out exactly what app outside of Googles Play Music that is causing drain without going into system and looking at battery. The top two items listed are the cause of your battery drain. Display should always be on top unless using GPS, Games, or Media without power adapter. Google's Play Music will cause Media Adapter to index in back ground. Depending on media type and media name, Media Adapter will run for 30 minutes to hours on end draining battery as well. 4.2.2 has a bug with media names, So using Windows or Apple's media management to create folder and names can be your issue as well. Search for any media with "_" in the name or folder.
gooberdude said:
Removing, disabling, or freezing Google Play Music will fix battery drain and temperature issues. Though there are thousands of apps that are buggy, since everyone has different tastes there is no real way to point out exactly what app outside of Googles Play Music that is causing drain without going into system and looking at battery. The top two items listed are the cause of your battery drain. Display should always be on top unless using GPS, Games, or Media without power adapter. Google's Play Music will cause Media Adapter to index in back ground. Depending on media type and media name, Media Adapter will run for 30 minutes to hours on end draining battery as well. 4.2.2 has a bug with media names, So using Windows or Apple's media management to create folder and names can be your issue as well. Search for any media with "_" in the name or folder.
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Google play music is disabled long time ago.
I'm also aware of the media storage drain issue...
That's why I wished to upgrade to 4.4.2 to end the media drain issue.. but kitkat seems buggy too as many users confirmed that.
Also, I've no battry drain problem, it's just overheating!
My battery can last for about 8 hours without charing
ONLY OVERHEATING
AhmadLight said:
Google play music is disabled long time ago.
I'm also aware of the media storage drain issue...
That's why I wished to upgrade to 4.4.2 to end the media drain issue.. but kitkat seems buggy too as many users confirmed that.
Also, I've no battry drain problem, it's just overheating!
My battery can last for about 8 hours without charing
ONLY OVERHEATING
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Sounds like a hardware issue... if still under warrenty on the Date of registration, I would do a factory reset and call it in.
gooberdude said:
Sounds like a hardware issue... if still under warrenty on the Date of registration, I would do a factory reset and call it in.
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No, my warranty is void...
I downloaded 2 different apps to check the sensors in note 8.0
it doesn't have temperature sensor at all!
How system tuner could give me CPU temp?? or it's just fake?!
I've had my G3 since launch and it's always lagged really bad when I've been using more than 1 app at once e.g., listening to music and web browsing. The device reaches 95c and then shuts down so I've had to downclock the CPU to 1.9ghz to stop the shutdowns. With it underclocked, it lags even worse now and still reaches quite high temps (75c~) I'm still on a rooted Kitkat as I haven't had time to upgrade the ROM. Do the new 5.xx ROM's fix the lag? Does it still over heat when doing really simple things?
Hi,
When i was on the stock 5.0 (20h) i had a bit of overheating but never reached the point of a shutdown.
Now I'm on a custom Rom (cloudy 2.5) and i have no heating issues, and a very good battery life.
You can try flashing the latest KDZ for your device and test it. You should also check that you don't have a process eating resources running in the background.
For me the only application that lags is the phone/agenda. It is bad lagging when you have many contacts.
I hope it helps.
Regards
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lag
flash new rom clougyg3 v2.5...works wonders ....avoid task killers ...use system ui with expose installer if you want some customization...
Fahim92 said:
I've had my G3 since launch and it's always lagged really bad when I've been using more than 1 app at once e.g., listening to music and web browsing. The device reaches 95c and then shuts down so I've had to downclock the CPU to 1.9ghz to stop the shutdowns. With it underclocked, it lags even worse now and still reaches quite high temps (75c~) I'm still on a rooted Kitkat as I haven't had time to upgrade the ROM. Do the new 5.xx ROM's fix the lag? Does it still over heat when doing really simple things?
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95c? thats frying hot and not safe at all. I guess since you have had it since launch you cant return it. try custom roms and kernels and if it doesnt still fix, i d say go for another device.
assuming you are rooted and have twrp, you can try the ctt mod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/thermal-mod-t2907363
worked for me and im on stock rom stock kernel kitkat(vs985). i just got on opera browser for about 6 minutes and the temp just sat at 55c and the power button is not even warm. before flashing the ctt mod i would start blowing at the back of my phone after 2 minutes of web browsing alone.
When I watch a video on YouTube or if I play a game. The temperature goes to 107.8 degrees and my screen gets hot and also on the back as well how can I prevent it or is it time to buy a new phone?
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Do you have it rooted/with a custom ROM/Kernel?
I experienced issues like that when I overclocked the phone, but now that I have it to a more battery-friendly kernel and settings, I don't experience it at all.
Overheating while playing games is normal, try to set cpu speed as low as possible w/out loosing game performance
Hello everyone! I have a problem with Fulmics 5.0 or say precisely with MM. Many games (arcade often as geometry dash, floor Tiles or even Clash Royale sometimes freezes) lag much after about 20 seconds, with continuous drop frame. It is a fact well known by many users looking on the internet, someone has found a solution? I already tried to disable the gaming optimization. With Cyanogen it did not happen, but I would use a ROM similar to the stock. Thank you all!
In battery and power saving in settings, there is an option to save power by adjusting fps and resolution. Maybe it is due to that. Try turning it off.
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This is a general discussion thread. You can share your Current setup of Robin, it would be helpful for us to know which ROM can be used as Our daily driver.
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I'm currently using OmniRom's last build with Magisk module cross-breeder lite edition.
It's giving me Quite decent performance and Battery life.
Normally on continuous usage, it lasts almost 5-6 hrs on single charge.
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If anyone getting a better Battery life, don't hesitate to post below.?
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Thanks for sharing, I cannot give screenshots for everything here. I might have them but have to dig into the folder of screenshots but for now here is my battery experience over all.
I have used PA, Carbon and Omni extensively. So everything below is not a ROM review but its battery usage over all with them.
P.S. : For all ROMs, I use Greenify and Doze mode (within ROM, if not available then via NapTime).
PA for me has always been close to stock nothing great maybe a bit better. But because of its roaming issue I stopped using it. And switched to carbon.
Carbon is far better than PA and has very little standby/idle drain but it started giving me a weird 20-25% battery cut off issue and device used to shut down randomly anytime below 25% so I switched to Omni.
Omni has fared pretty well for me. Unlike other ROMs I get consistent battery life i.e. 3-4hrs SOT over a period of 10-15hrs. The ROM seems far more stable and there aren't any random battery drains. Omni sometimes behaves a bit erratic when using new camera apps i.e. first few times it would drain battery a lot but later it works fine. Its the device or ROM I don't know.
For Duo video calls it isn't so great after 30-40mins of call the battery is down by 30% maybe. But that is fine I guess the video call is on data too. So Robin isn't so great for that sort of heavy use in general I guess.
Here is my most heavy use day (on all ROMs) for which 10-12hrs is most the device can sustain.
Morning (for the device) starts at about 6:30-7am.
Its day starts with 96-100%; no matter how much juice it has I make sure I unplug anywhere above 95%.
My usage isn't heavy but I use data(3G/4G) 90% of the time,
Location/GPS is ON for about 40-80mins,
Voice calls ~30-90mins in total, (Most are cellular, 5-10mins VoIP calls)
60-90mins podcast/music, Podcasts which I listen are downloaded before but music is streamed via NewPipe ,
Mail, Twitter, Excel, Pocket app, Camera is used in between randomly.
I don't watch much YouTube on the device maybe a couple of 2-3mins clips, I mostly scroll YouTube to add them to watch later for watching on desktop,
SOT ~3hrs
I have to plug the device by 6-7pm with all that usage. Because by that time its about 15%. And for me Robin at 15% means about 10-15mins of use.
For not so heavy use days the device lasts from 7am to 9pm with SOT of ~3-3.5hrs + voice calls of 30-60mins + 40-60mins GPS/location.
Since Android N I haven't touched 4hrs+ SOT over a period of 10-15hrs of usage sadly.
That only happens if I unplug the device and use it continuously for 4-5hrs reading maybe with no waste in idle drain or data or wifi or push notifs etc. But that isn't a case of regular use for me so I will disregard that.
I have recently started using interactive governors like GlassFish and FairPark but can't say they have helped much. Standby/Idle drain is as low as 1-2% over 4-5hrs.
If you are getting 4hrs+ SOT over a longer charge time of 10-12hrs, I am all ears and want to know what different do you do.
I use Omni with Unicornblood kernel and Hawktail profile in Ex Kernel manager. I also use greenify and naptime. I'd say on average I can get between 3 and 4 hours SOT. On the lower end will be days where I'm out and about a lot so I'm on data, lots of idling, random browsing, reddit, messenger, etc. Usually have spotify running in my car through bluetooth. On the higher end will be days where I'm playing on my phone most of the day, with little screen off time, I can probably push over 4 hours on those days.
Today I've been off the charger for 10 1/2 hours, I have 1 1/2 hours of SOT. I spoke on the phone for about 15 minutes, browsed the internet a bit, some instagram, messaging, etc. and I still have 54% left.
I've tried Paranoid Android and LOS.
With PA the battery on my Robin drains like crazy and I noticed some heat problems as well.
As for LOS, it gives me quite decent battery life but had issues with the power button, the phone struggles to wake sometimes.
Should I try Omni then?
Luisalejandroqi said:
I've tried Paranoid Android and LOS.
With PA the battery on my Robin drains like crazy and I noticed some heat problems as well.
As for LOS, it gives me quite decent battery life but had issues with the power button, the phone struggles to wake sometimes.
Should I try Omni then?
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Sadly there is no perfect ROM every ROM has some issue. The only question is if you can live with that issue.
The only reason for me to stop using PA was it won't work on roaming. But if PA has been stable and battery drain was the only issue try using Greenify and Naptime. The combination of both can drastically bring down your battery drain. And then use some interactive cpu governors aimed for battery life it should bring down drain to as low as 1-2%.
If you are looking for a different better ROM to try then surely try omni, Omni has been great for me so far and has no major issues as such.
/root said:
Sadly there is no perfect ROM every ROM has some issue. The only question is if you can live with that issue.
The only reason for me to stop using PA was it won't work on roaming. But if PA has been stable and battery drain was the only issue try using Greenify and Naptime. The combination of both can drastically bring down your battery drain. And then use some interactive cpu governors aimed for battery life it should bring down drain to as low as 1-2%.
If you are looking for a different better ROM to try then surely try omni, Omni has been great for me so far and has no major issues as such.
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Omni, however, doesn't have Qualcomm's hotplugging solution, so both big cores are always on all the time and draining battery whenever your screen is on. Gandalf also messed something up with the kernel sources and broke NFC, requiring you to flash a kernel from an Omni weekly from around June-ish or July-ish to restore that functionality.
If you're patient enough, javelinanddart and Sultanxda will soon figure out how to fix the wake-on-plug lag in LineageOS. Hopefully, they'll also start on figuring out the power-button-not-waking-device issue afterwards.
EDIT: oops. Though javelinanddart proooobably found what might be causing the power-button-not-waking-device issue? Haven't had it happen on his LOS 15.1 unofficials yet so...
I am currently using Lineage 14.1-14.1-20180321 and eagerly awaiting the 'official' release of 15.1. I typically do not update to every weekly build. I usually watch the change logs and update only when the new security patches are released. Provided that update is stable (i.e. fast, everything works, no crashes) I will continue on with that build until the next security patch is released. More often than not, there are no issues, as I have found Lineage to be stable and fast.
I am running non-rooted, and I re-locked my bootloader. As a result, Google Pay is working well, without the use of Magisk.
I run Nova Prime launcher, and do not have a vast amount of apps installed:
Music - Google Play Music, Spotify, Amazon Music
Email and Calendar - Outlook, GMail, Google Calendar
Assistant - Google Assistant
Office Suite - Docs, Sheets, Drive, MS One Drive, Word, Excel, Google Keep, One Note
Camera - Stock lineage OS camera, Snapseed (editing)
Messaging - stock AOSP / Lineage OS messaging app
Video - YouTube, Netflix, Hulu (I only use YouTube to be honest... have the other two because of Chromecasting)
Misc - Google Home, Amazon Kindle
I list all those apps to say that given the relative few apps I use, I have all day battery life, for the most part. I am not a heavy user, but I check email multiple times a day, as well send/receive a LOT of MMS/SMS messages throughout the day. I generally only watch video on my phone (YouTube mostly) at home, and I generally cast it to my TV so that the Chromecast does the heavy lifting.
Overall, I have been very happy with Lineage. I finally settled on Lineage after growing disgruntled with AOSPA. The stock ROM (I gave it a good, honest shot at one point) could not cut it because of the lack of stability, heat issues, Bluetooth issues, and no updates.
I have only run into one issue (on a previous build) where by no doing of my own, the screen went blank on a full battery and would not turn on. I though the phone was essentially bricked. Held down power + volume down for 60 seconds (actually had to do this a few different times) and all was resolved. Still do not know why this happened.
Hopefully this helps someone...
@sfbest23
Thank you for replying with so much detail. But a bit of numbers would help in terms of battery life you get from your usage and setup.
Typical phone idle time and SOT. Gives a rough idea of the battery drain in standby.
I am running non-rooted, and I re-locked my bootloader.
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I am more curious about this. So after flashing LOS you flash back the stock recovery and lock the bootloader? But when you flash back TWRP to install the updated LOS do you lose all your data again or what? Can you tell me the process you follow, I would love to do it but I find backing up and restoring everything for every update is tiresome and a little annoying. Even if one opts to only update for major releases once a month or few months I am not a fan of backup and restore process quite often.
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@sfbest23
Thank you for replying with so much detail. But a bit of numbers would help in terms of battery life you get from your usage and setup.
Typical phone idle time and SOT. Gives a rough idea of the battery drain in standby.
I am more curious about this. So after flashing LOS you flash back the stock recovery and lock the bootloader? But when you flash back TWRP to install the updated LOS do you lose all your data again or what? Can you tell me the process you follow, I would love to do it but I find backing up and restoring everything for every update is tiresome and a little annoying. Even if one opts to only update for major releases once a month or few months I am not a fan of backup and restore process quite often.
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I do not have any detailed battery metrics, but I will start tracking this and get back to you.
Regarding your question about re-locking the bootloader... I am still running TWRP, just with a locked bootloader. I did not flash back to the stock recovery. After unlocking the bootloader, installing TWRP and ROM of choice, it is simply a 'fastboot oem lock' command. I cannot remember off hand, but I do believe that the OS was reset when I did that.
My setup. Works very well. I think omni is the best ROM available.
EAT_CHICKEN said:
My setup. Works very well. I think omni is the best ROM available.
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Same ROM version, same Magisk version but I still get the SafetyNet API Error.
/root said:
Same ROM version, same Magisk version but I still get the SafetyNet API Error.
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Do you have /system modified? Or xposed installed? Those will cause safetynet to fail.
EAT_CHICKEN said:
Do you have /system modified? Or xposed installed? Those will cause safetynet to fail.
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Not using xposed.
Does using EXKM for CPU governors constitute to being a /system modification? Then I guess that would be the cause.