Hi!
After reading a lot posts about the problem with sod, i thought about writing a small databaseapp for collecting statistical information about the concerned devices / installations.
Maybe we have a good chance to identify some or THE reason(s) with statistical functions / methods?
But before i start i have a question to you wm5 / wm6 devs: How much work is it to write a small application which exports a (xml|txt|whatever) file with all important information like bootloader, ROM, installed apps including version numbers? This would be nice to minimize users work while participating in that research and may be a nice incentive too.
thx, licht
Hi guys,
I know this is somehow a dumb question for you all gurus here. But I am new to upgrading ROM although I have been using PPC for more than 3 years already. I normally only installed softwares, but when I came across this forum, I realised that there are so many cool things that you can do with your PPC and one of them is to upgrade your ROM to make it a better device. This will definately save me monies from buying a new unit (if i am not looking for better speed or memory)
My questions are:
1. How do I upgrade the ROM? Do I need a special software to do it? Or it is a simple CAB file installation
2. Is upgrading ROM legal? I am the kind that support buying the softwares that I need rather than installing the cracked version. I believe this will help the growth of a better development.
3. When I upgrade into a new ROM, would my existing data (such as texts, contacts, other data) be gone? How do I backup these data? I am already planning to buy SPB backup software and I am not sure whether this will be able to help me when I upgrade into a new ROM.
4. How do I revert back to my original ROM if ever I am not satisfied with the new ROM?
5. I know these are basic questions and I too had searched the forum, but I can't just seem to find the right answer to my worries.
thanks guys. . .
cooldude_no1 said:
Hi guys,
I know this is somehow a dumb question for you all gurus here. But I am new to upgrading ROM although I have been using PPC for more than 3 years already. I normally only installed softwares, but when I came across this forum, I realised that there are so many cool things that you can do with your PPC and one of them is to upgrade your ROM to make it a better device. This will definately save me monies from buying a new unit (if i am not looking for better speed or memory)
My questions are:
1. How do I upgrade the ROM? Do I need a special software to do it? Or it is a simple CAB file installation
2. Is upgrading ROM legal? I am the kind that support buying the softwares that I need rather than installing the cracked version. I believe this will help the growth of a better development.
3. When I upgrade into a new ROM, would my existing data (such as texts, contacts, other data) be gone? How do I backup these data? I am already planning to buy SPB backup software and I am not sure whether this will be able to help me when I upgrade into a new ROM.
4. How do I revert back to my original ROM if ever I am not satisfied with the new ROM?
5. I know these are basic questions and I too had searched the forum, but I can't just seem to find the right answer to my worries.
thanks guys. . .
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Since you didn't give an exact make/model of your PPC, I can only give you some generic answers.
1) Depends on what device you have. Generally, you don't need any special software to do it. Generally, it is not just as simple as a CAB installation.
2) I don't really care to get into that. But, if you think about it, why would you come onto this site to get a "hacked" ROM if your device's manufacturer supplied one for you? What I'm really getting down to is, who would you pay? If you get a "hacked" ROM from here, it's most likely because your device's manufacturer has determined not to supply you with updated ROMs--why then would you send them any more money? Somebody else can try to answer that more appropriately, if they care to.
3) Generally, (again, I can't say anything specific without knowing your device) most ROM updates will format your internal storage. So, yes, you would lose any unsaved data. Backup software like SPB will backup most of your files for you. Go to their site to get the details on that. Essentially, most of your data (contacts, e-mail, tasks, etc...) are referred to as PIM data. Almost any backup software for a PPC will backup PIM data. PIM data, generally, can be restored into almost any WM version. You probably would not want to backup your system data (registry, system files, etc...) and restore it into another version of WM (if it is a major revision change...ie, WM5 -> WM6). That being said, most all of your current programs would need to be re-installed, as a general rule.
4) Did your device come with a "restore disc"? Did you happen to check with the manufacturer of your device to see if an original image (ROM) is available?
5) I'm surprised you didn't find answers to most of these questions, honestly. These are fairly common questions that would be asked in most ROM related threads on this forum. Unfortunately, there is some level of "you just have to try it for yourself" that is usually involved in a ROM upgrade.
I'm pretty sure if you throw out a make and model of your device in this thread, someone with something similar (if not the same thing) will be able to give you more specific answers to your questions.
sorry, i din realise the make and model of my PPC makes a difference. Mine is o2 Atom (black) with WM5.
cooldude_no1 said:
sorry, i din realise the make and model of my PPC makes a difference. Mine is o2 Atom (black) with WM5.
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??? Would you repair a VW Jetta the same way you would repair a Chevy Cavalier or a Passat or a Subaru WRX? Sorry to sound condescending, but of course the make and model makes a difference! But, now that we know what you have, perhaps someone can give you some more specific details to your device. I personally don't know anything about your particular device. Hopefully someone can clear up your questions for you.
cavyman said:
Since you didn't give an exact make/model of your PPC, I can only give you some generic answers.
1) Depends on what device you have. Generally, you don't need any special software to do it. Generally, it is not just as simple as a CAB installation.
2) I don't really care to get into that. But, if you think about it, why would you come onto this site to get a "hacked" ROM if your device's manufacturer supplied one for you? What I'm really getting down to is, who would you pay? If you get a "hacked" ROM from here, it's most likely because your device's manufacturer has determined not to supply you with updated ROMs--why then would you send them any more money? Somebody else can try to answer that more appropriately, if they care to.
3) Generally, (again, I can't say anything specific without knowing your device) most ROM updates will format your internal storage. So, yes, you would lose any unsaved data. Backup software like SPB will backup most of your files for you. Go to their site to get the details on that. Essentially, most of your data (contacts, e-mail, tasks, etc...) are referred to as PIM data. Almost any backup software for a PPC will backup PIM data. PIM data, generally, can be restored into almost any WM version. You probably would not want to backup your system data (registry, system files, etc...) and restore it into another version of WM (if it is a major revision change...ie, WM5 -> WM6). That being said, most all of your current programs would need to be re-installed, as a general rule.
4) Did your device come with a "restore disc"? Did you happen to check with the manufacturer of your device to see if an original image (ROM) is available?
5) I'm surprised you didn't find answers to most of these questions, honestly. These are fairly common questions that would be asked in most ROM related threads on this forum. Unfortunately, there is some level of "you just have to try it for yourself" that is usually involved in a ROM upgrade.
I'm pretty sure if you throw out a make and model of your device in this thread, someone with something similar (if not the same thing) will be able to give you more specific answers to your questions.
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cavyman;
BRAVO!!!
Very comprehensive,authoritative,justifiable and meaningful approach.
I wud just like to add here in a nutshell in my own way,no harm meant to anyone,no hard feelings plz & I quote, :-
" Hey ! ya'all ,what are you doing here,why u'all scratching you heads for,with wide opened sleepless eyes starring at the Pc monitor and jumping to your PDA's,go get some rest man,give yourself a break man ,look your wife is annoyed,your children yelling,your boss might kick you out,why you have to sneak out in the night to work on this project,just forget it,it's not worth it... WHY! cuz here I'm MR.RICHIE RICH, I got the dough, I can get every device which comes out after every six months,so why take this trouble of upgrading, with this,OH **** HACKED SOFTWARE,when we have with us Mr.Silly $ator, Long Live Micro$hoft..huh!"
cooldude_no1
With my due apologies,no harm meant to you,but how many people in the world,do you think can buy a new device which comes out with new features and new applications every year,well perhaps 10 to 20% at the give and take average.
secondly, software owner's,vendors,device manufactures and carriers who launch their products dont give a **** after the sale of products,never care and provide support and upgrades to their products,if they did than no one wud have come here and how then will they launch new products.why shud all those people suffer who had paid there hard earned money to buy these devices and than they are deprived of their rights.
We all complement all the techies,gurus and hard working staff of xda forums for their relentless,priceless,reward less and with no monitory gains,the way they are serving the community.All credit goes to them ! Infact,if you go through all of their work,applications,software and cooking of latest Roms,one must say,they are even doing a much better,perfect and excellent job than manufacturers and vendors themselves,THUMBS UP
Ok if your are really interested to upgrade your device,there's a whole thread for your device,for your guidance and upgrade.see in the link below:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=297
Good luck,have fun
Bye
Hi all have a new HTC Niki, have memory card and now wanting to tamper without causing damage. How do i do a reliable backup of all things i need to restore if things go wrong? I have been reading through the threads so getting to grips with bits and pieces but still unsure where to start. Should i do a hard reset and start backing system files etc from there? I say doing a hard reset because i have already tried a couple of apps on the phone and found that some didn't work that great(probably just neede some tweaking on my part!)so uninstalled them and maybe there are still traces of them in the registry? Apps tried: S2U2, slide setting, i fonz, pocketgpsmap,ppc.YGoNet, mobile live messenger. Do any of these leave registry traces when deleted?
Anyway, given my objectives any help regarding the things i need to back up,programs needed to do this and programs required for the cube development would be much appreciated.
On a final note as i am new to all of this and the forum/developers etiquette can anybody tell me what a typical/ acceptable 'donate' gesture is and in what currency? Is Euro's the norm? Reasons for asking about this are i saw a skin that i liked and i didn't know how much to donate without causing offence.
Thanks all for any help
what I do is that when I find my pocket pc is perfect on a a certain day specially after installing certain programs then I do backup on that day...of course you backup in the memory card ...somebackup programs may do backup on aregular base like spb backup...
I don't really don't consider myself a noob but would prefer to add a little caution here since the solution will affect alot of phones.
I would like to build a ROM that would slim down the HTC Sprint 6800 by removing programs or tools that are not needed for my purpose, which in exchange cause alot of memory to be freed for another third party application.
I really need to help to understand that steps needed to build as I want. Can I use my own jpeg images for the boot screen? Incorporate third party software (that I have full control over) into the Rom? Will an unlocker be needed?
What applications/programs would you recommend in order to gain the most memory availability?
Thank you for any advice you could give.
I'm agree with you i searched a lot for some thing like that and i didn't find till now could some of members here help how to do that
Aniken010 said:
I don't really don't consider myself a noob but would prefer to add a little caution here since the solution will affect alot of phones.
I would like to build a ROM that would slim down the HTC Sprint 6800 by removing programs or tools that are not needed for my purpose, which in exchange cause alot of memory to be freed for another third party application.
I really need to help to understand that steps needed to build as I want. Can I use my own jpeg images for the boot screen? Incorporate third party software (that I have full control over) into the Rom? Will an unlocker be needed?
What applications/programs would you recommend in order to gain the most memory availability?
Thank you for any advice you could give.
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Is there a reason as to why no one answers? Am I asking something wrong? I've read through search and "how to" on developing the rom but wanted more information about specific questions.... really? anyone?
You would do well to check out the Titan ROM forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=384 and at www.ppcgeeks.com .
There is a plethora of information in these areas as well as ROMs that are doing what you are asking for.
Now, if you would like to do this on your own then I would still check the above areas as well as searching this site. There is a ton of info that can be found quite quickly.
So I've started to earn a few stripes in the world of Custom ROM's, been caught in a few boot loops, completely ruined a few ROM's because I thought I was above the instructions and so on, from my limited experience so far I've learnt one thing, these few words are my best friends right now "fastboot erase cache'"
So I come to my question. I'm using Titanium Backup. I've read and can understand why doing a system restore on a new ROM is simply bad news, even if the previous ROM was a similar type, ie, both being HTC Sense ROM's, however the most annoying and time consuming aspect of a new rom is as follows:
Entering all your account information again (Mail, Evernote, FB etc)
Losing all your SMS's
Losing all your GUI changes (The 8 folders I have on my front screen which took me ages to setup)
After restoring all your Apps from Backup, is there a quick and easy way to see what all the circa 250 system modules listed in Titanium actually are? Sure some are self explanatory, however if there were a reference somewhere where I could see which modules looked after GUI layout, SMS's and Account Information for example, it would be a nice way to save time when going from one ROM to another.
Does anyone know where I could find this information?
If I may be cheeky and slide in another question? Along the same lines. I understand that doing a system restore between different ROMS is bad news, what about when ARHD update the ROM I'm on? Would a full system restore after a clean ROM install still be a bad idea? Does the system restore touch things like the kernel and OS?
Any help would be truly appreciated and I'm very sorry if this has already been answered in another thread, I did have a poke about first.
In case you were all wondering, and I know all 4 million + registered users where all next to their computer's lying in fetal positions waiting for this problem to be solved, I did a bit of RTFM and Voila, the answers were staring me in the face.
Titanium Backup had even highlighted what I wanted In Bold Lime for all the n00bs like me!
WOOGH
That's me making a gorilla noise and typing the rest of this post with my elbows...
Thankyou and goodnight!