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I am currently a somewhat happy owner of a Sony Z3 Compact. Which, hardware wise, was perfect for me 2 years ago. (Small form factor, ext SDcard port, waterproof*, unlockable bootloader, and flagship hardware CPU/GPU) But due to it's unpopularity in sales & the difficulty Sony has put in the way of AOSP community developers effectively I'm stuck at 5.1.1 LP (AOSP derivative ROM) as a stable daily driver.
So, I'm looking at either a gently used 5X, or a new OnePlusX. Both will let me flash easily, but I lose an external SD card with the 5X. I know the responses here will be somewhat biased, but I'm also posting this within the OnePlusX forum to gauge both sides of the responses.
(And no, I don't want to pay ~$700-800 for a 128GB Pixel. I don't have that kind of money to burn. And the 5.5" of the OP3T is bigger than I want to have in my hands / pocket.)
So get the 5X? Get a new OPX? Anything else on the horizon I'm missing? (Wait for ---- ?)
Thanks in advance for your opinions.
buy a new 5x? its the same price (around 250eu) and 5x should be better at everything other than ram
a cheaper alternative could be moto g4 (dual). is it "worse" phone? yes, but its around 80eu cheaper too, and imo more sensible choise than oneplusx
I say go for the 5x. the internal memory for the 5x is doable since it comes with either a 16gb, 32gb, or 128gb, hopefully the used one has a 32gb so you want have to worry about space that much
Been pretty confused as to which one to go for since the day the 6gb version of max pro m1 was announced. Already have a redmi phone and it seems filled with bloatware, which is a bit annoying. Also, dont like the MIUI, but have seen some reports of Asus after sales support being very bad and despite the 5000 mah battery the phone lasting a bit less than RN5P.Is this true? The anti rollback also seems like a small issue now on the RN5P. Also how will the development of roms and recoveries be for both the devices ?
As far as I am concerned ARP is an issue if you switch between MIUI roms. Custom roms don't have a firmware included (that's why developers say flash Specific_firmware.zip because they wrap their roms around them.) MIUI 10 is a beta so no it's highly unlikley they get shipped with ARB protection v.4 (always double check your device with fastboot getvar anti)
Long story short: you can flash/mod your device and make it look like stock Android in no time. It has a great & huge community. Even if you are on ARB v.4 (which is giving people headache because they flash MIUI with ARB v.3) you won't have a problem installing a custom rom (which is the important point here): Nobody likes MIUI, everyone wants stock!
Regarding the Asus Zenphone max pro m1 vs xiaomi camera: for an average user they are pretty much equal, however the xiaomi redmi note 5 pro camera performs slightly better (according to side by side comparisons).
4gb RAM vs 6gb RAM doesn't really matter to be honest. It's like having 16gb vs 8gb of RAM in a gaming PC: it doesn't matter for your daily purpose.
Both of the devices have a very good XDA community and custom rom support, again no problem modding both of these devices.
Conclusion: the only place I've found the asus phone was Aliexpress and yeah it's a bit more expansive (~260€) sure you have 6gb of RAM, meanwhile the RN5P is ~190-200€
I think you should go with the xiaomi redmi note 5 pro, again you have nothing to worry about in terms of price/performance the best one until ~400€ in all categories.
If you have a bit more money to spend I would recommend the OnePlus_6 (~500€) it's a beast.
Additional plus point for the xiaomi redmi note 5 pro (+ OnePlus and other high end devices) are the MOFI cases. Don't forget a tempered glass and you are good2go. Cheers, I hope I could have helped a bit
Asus is more expensive.
Xiaomi has better community, more roms and better support.
Arb is not a decision factor at all.
I do not remember well but in some review i watched, there was some little bugs in asus. As well as in rn5 lol).
6gb will NOT give you anything, in need of perfomance comparison you must get real testing side by side, and results can change with software updates.
In that review i watched, there was points score at the end, and both phones got equal score. I do not fully believe to reviewers, but it was looking kinda objective. Just some features are better in rn5, other better in asus.
Personally at first I would compare the software, size of community, custom roms amount, then camera shots, and then perfomance.
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4gb RAM vs 6gb RAM doesn't really matter to be honest. It's like having 16gb vs 8gb of RAM in a gaming PC: it doesn't matter for your daily purpose.
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I should have mentioned being from india where there is improvements in both the primary and secondary cameras for the 6 gb version of the max pro m1.
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Conclusion: the only place I've found the asus phone was Aliexpress and yeah it's a bit more expansive (~260€) sure you have 6gb of RAM, meanwhile the RN5P is ~190-200€
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In india, its exactly the same price for both the phones which is ~ 190€.
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If you have a bit more money to spend I would recommend the OnePlus_6 (~500€) it's a beast.
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Oh man, believe me this is a no brainer for everyone, but its almost double that of my budget. That being said if I ever have the budget for a Premium phone I am going for whatever version of OnePlus would be available that year.
Your reply was very helpful, thanks man ...
Well, maybe not everyone is from India? However I don't understand your statment regarding "Indians advancement of technology regarding cameras/6gb RAM". There are camera comparisons of these phones, watch them and then reply plz I don't care, the end product has to speak for itself!
To be honest ~1/2 years ago I had a phone with 2gb RAM, 16gb ROM and I didn't have any problems at all, so I don't see any problem here.
A lot of people actually think they don't need an expansive phone because they look at Apple and Samsung or let it be Google (which all are around 1k). A lot of people are simply not aware of that.
One hint: leave the sarcasm be, it should be a friendly open minded international community and not something corrupted twisted around india full of sarcasm and hatred with people only complaining about others and not even appreciate the time and effort.
Do you have an idea how often I have seen the question? Doesn't matter I always take my time to tell my opinion.
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Well, maybe not everyone is from India? However I don't understand your statment regarding "Indians advancement of technology regarding cameras/6gb RAM". There are camera comparisons of these phones, watch them and then reply plz I don't care, the end product has to speak for itself!
To be honest ~1/2 years ago I had a phone with 2gb RAM, 16gb ROM and I didn't have any problems at all, so I don't see any problem here.
A lot of people actually think they don't need an expansive phone because they look at Apple and Samsung or let it be Google (which all are around 1k). A lot of people are simply not aware of that.
One hint: leave the sarcasm be, it should be a friendly open minded international community and not something corrupted twisted around india full of sarcasm and hatred with people only complaining about others and not even appreciate the time and effort.
Do you have an idea how often I have seen the question? Doesn't matter I always take my time to tell my opinion.
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I was mentioning the 6gb version of the zenfone cause the cameras on it has been improved to 16 mp for both the primary and secondary from the previous 13 mp and 8 mp for the 3 & 4 gb versions of the phone. I just thought that the global version for this phone would be a little different like the MI 6X and the MI A2 (which are essentially the same but with minute differences). It might have come out wrong. I wasnt being sarcastic at all and your answer was actually very helpful.
These type of questions should be asked in Device suggestion thread.. i dont understand why people create different thread for same question
What is this arrogance about???!!!
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Well, maybe not everyone is from India? However I don't understand your statment regarding "Indians advancement of technology regarding cameras/6gb RAM". There are camera comparisons of these phones, watch them and then reply plz I don't care, the end product has to speak for itself!
To be honest ~1/2 years ago I had a phone with 2gb RAM, 16gb ROM and I didn't have any problems at all, so I don't see any problem here.
A lot of people actually think they don't need an expansive phone because they look at Apple and Samsung or let it be Google (which all are around 1k). A lot of people are simply not aware of that.
One hint: leave the sarcasm be, it should be a friendly open minded international community and not something corrupted twisted around india full of sarcasm and hatred with people only complaining about others and not even appreciate the time and effort.
Do you have an idea how often I have seen the question? Doesn't matter I always take my time to tell my opinion.
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Who are you? How much help have you provided to any community?? If any, what do you want from any of us(who are also in the same community of XDA,specially from Indians) in return??? How dare you to complain against a race or a nation like that?? You are one of the dumbest one to be seen in XDA's history and you are really lucky that the questioner(5tunter) was really humble to ignore your arrogant and sarcastic reply.
Now read out and try to follow what he was trying to mean to you..
RN5P 4gb/64 and AZM1 6gb/64 both are available in India with exactly same price i.e. INR 14,999 (~ 190€.) So we are not dumb enough to buy it from AliExpress by paying much more price. You are not from India that is your problem, or are you asking us to move to your place and buy the same phone from AliExpress?? So, as both of them available at exact same price now it's really hard to decide which one to buy as previously RN5P was quite better in terms of overall offerings and particularly in Camera department compared to AZMPM1's 4gb variant. But Asus has come a long way and upped their offering with the 6gb variant with a newer and better camera setup which performs as good as RN5P( as you referring to lots of comparison available on YouTube) and surprisingly with same tag of ~ 190€ compared to 4gb RN5P ( He dosn't have to pay ~ 260€ like you). Also there are so many other aspects of both the phone but in each and every comparison they are not far superior or inferior from each other. So it's really hard to decide and that's why so many of buyers asking for the final opinion which is more hard to find from any available comparison.
If you can help him to decide that is fine If not then also that is fine but why trolling someone who doesn't want to buy(but really wish to have the money to buy it when his budget allows him to) a phone what costs more than double i.e. INR 34,999.00(~500€) . If every one can afford OP6 then what's the point having RN5P or AZMPM1 in market!!! Or we have to mortgage our property or savings to get OP6, as you are liking it very much!!!
And please try to avoid these kind of words in future like "sarcasm and hatred", when no one provoking you to use it and otherwise humble to you.
I can understand your confusion, as i am in that situation myself. I currently own Redmi Note 5 Pro (4+64 black) running AEX rom without any issues but i was eagerly waiting for the 6gb variant of Zenfone Max Pro as i am planning to switch to that and from my perspective let me tell you why:
Pros of Zenfone Max Pro(6gb):
1. More Ram (only helpful if you are a intense user)
2. dedicated sd card slot (absolutely need it)
3. RGB notification led (unlike white led crap on RN5P).
4. Stock android (for those who does not like miui and dont wanna root and all)
5. Improved cameras
6. Battery (not a big difference over RN5P though).
7. Slightly better loudspeaker performance
8. Price!
Apart from this performance, display and appearance is not much different. So yeah choice is yours. I'll personally go for Asus than RN5P for 15k!
I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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Well. As you already know, ZenUI 6.0 has been launched along with Z6, which is just vanilla android with Asus's additional features. According to me, you should wait for Z6 for the following reasons:
1. 1+7 Pro's screen looks gorgeous, but it is very very prone to damage, also Z6s LCD supports 100% of Color Gamut.
2. 1+s battery is just sub standard, yes they give Warp Charging, but as it is rightly said, they are just killing the anxiety, actual productivity is to actually have a large battery. Also, Z6 comes with Qualcomm QuickCharge 4.0
3. Z6s 5000 mAH battery coupled with SD855 will give a stellar SOT.
4. 1+ may have the Sony IMX 586 at rear, but its front camera is average at best. On the other hand, in Z6 you get the exact same high end camera for both rear and front camera photography.
5. And finally, there is a chance that ZenUI 6 is better than OOS. Also, Z6 is included in the Q beta program and ZenUI 6 is as stock as possible, so you can expect very quick updates. Also, Asus has guaranteed Android R update as well.
I drop my phone a lot. The Spigen case has been great at protecting it, but the glass back is a defect to me, too. I would like the telephoto on the 7P though.
both are preety good. But both comes under diffrent costing.
If money is not the issue for you and you want hdr 10 amoled display and be ok with no expandable storage and 4000 mah battry you can buy one plus 7 pro.
But if you can be ok with slighlty lesser display quality and can be ok with the lcd can offer. And you want 5000 mah battery, with new camera technology. And you wana save money by huge amount or you are set on bugget wait for zenfone 6. Its gona be a great device.
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I drop my phone a lot. The Spigen case has been great at protecting it, but the glass back is a defect to me, too. I would like the telephoto on the 7P though.
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one plus has cornning gorilla v 5 zenfone has v6
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Pretty much I prefer the specs of the Z6. But what about the dev community? Why, when three Z5 is so easy to unlock and root, are there so few ROMs? The Huawei's have more and they went totally hostile to devs.
One other problem: GSMArena is reporting that the Z6 does not include Band 71, T-Mobile's 600MHz band, which is increasingly important for T-Mo customers, although not deployed yet where I live. Where deployed, it is pretty uncongested, which makes it desirable for me.
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Pretty much I prefer the specs of the Z6. But what about the dev community? Why, when three Z5 is so easy to unlock and root, are there so few ROMs? The Huawei's have more and they went totally hostile to devs.
One other problem: GSMArena is reporting that the Z6 does not include Band 71, T-Mobile's 600MHz band, which is increasingly important for T-Mo customers, although not deployed yet where I live. Where deployed, it is pretty uncongested, which makes it desirable for me.
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unlocking zenfone 5z is daam easy on the other hand rooting it is a very long procedure.
Well i am not so sure about dev community.
since zenfone max pro series is google stock rom it has preety decent development. On the other hand well all i can say is you can expect 1 or 2 development programs for sure. But don't expect any more further development.
Most of the developers will focus on one plus 7 nd pro, upcoming xiaomi POCOFONE F2, and other devices with stock google rom.
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Taking a look at the 5Z Dev Forum... That looks kinda disapointing.
i was looking for a bit more development than my Sony Xperia XZ2.
Coming from the Old Sonys and the HTC10 which had a fairly big Custom Rom Community i'm somewhat disapointed. And going for a Pixel or OnePlus without a MicroSD slot is not an option.
I think the whole world of phone enthusiasts will be watching the dev section of Z6. Hope that terminations ZL XL KL, etc, or whatever they call it, doesn't make a different phone such as with Samsung, LG phones, thus making development much more difficult and restrictive for some.
For the price they ask, it's a good choice, negatives would be lack of telephoto and IR blaster, but we can live without them for sure.
I kinda hope that the community will grow, as I would like to change my LeMax2.
i would say the Z6 is way better bang for the buck compared to the oneplus. I will see once its on store shelves before buying though. Huawei seem to be in a lot of trouble right now with google actually pulling its services for their devices, updates and play store access, will keep an eye on that.
Yeah the only thing stopping me from buying z6 is the custom rom development
I'm pretty sure with ASUS' shift towards AOSP, development efforts will be far greater for the 6 than the 5z.
I'm just hoping they release a big screen version that's a true successor to their old phablets. A 16:9 or 16:10 7-8" device would be awesome.
Pleaseeee ASUS.
Also I'm not sure why XDA haven't added a Zenfone 6 forum ...
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Also I'm not sure why XDA haven't added a Zenfone 6 forum ...
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Having the same question...
Edit: Source code and bootloader unlock tool are available. Fingers crossed for some heavy development https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/
Edit2: They've created a forum for it
Zenfone seems like the better phone bigger battery
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It's not about the money.
I am was a OnePlus user until OnePlus 5T. But later I realised OnePlus has forgot its core values. I don't mean that OnePlus devices aren't good. They are best . But Asus Is implementing the same strategy OnePlus used years ago. Great Devices with Low Cost Value . Asus devices aren't either bad. They are best as per the cost. Quality & Cost is Balanced you know what I mean. It's just about Premium & Budget. Both the devices are great with there own unique way. I love both the companies Asus at priority & OnePlus at Satisfaction.
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I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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Get a Redmi K20 Pro
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Get a Redmi K20 Pro
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The best answer here.
Think twice before going for Asus zenfone 6
Trust me you don't wanna spend your life waiting for a official ROM to arrive. The cheaper doesn't always mean compromise, after using Zuk Z2 plus for 2 years, still i feel much happier using Zuk Z2, am running official lineage os and twrp was available from day 1. Anyways I learnt it the hard way that Asus is pretty cheap, they earn a huge profit by selling your privacy. Won't do mistake again, Privacy is more important than specs anyday, hands down to Zenfone6. People may take price of OP7 as granted but OP7 will be 20 times more successful and loved and supported in XDA.
Looking to get back into the Android modding world.
These things are important to me:
Custom Roms / rooting / unlocked bootloader
Fast
Large screen
(Stylus)
Expandable storage
Wireless charging
Don't care about headphone jack
The Note 9 (certain versions, either Exynos chipset or the n9600?) seems to meet all of these criteria, but... the a50 is *so* much cheaper.
Other than the stylus obviously, is the a50 comparable to the Note 9?
I mean, yeah, it is slightly behind in resolution, the scratch-resistance of the glass, the CPU / SOC, RAM (6 GB vs 4 GB), but it has a much better camera (which is kind of important to me, but not a game breaker).
I don't care that the Note 9 is water/dust resistant.
I would be using the phone on Ting here in the U.S.
Edit: I am also considering the Google Pixel (3, 3a xl, 4 XL) and the OnePlus 6T or Pro 7
I say don't get A50 if you want to play around with it. Yes, it's a great value phone, but only for average users. So far there's only few GSI ROMs and it's still somewhat buggy for most people.
Consider a OnePlus phone instead. It has great support for custom ROMs and tweaks.
I've got a Note 9 and the wife has an A50 (which I update etc as she's rather technophobic ... )
They are actually very similar in size, just that the N9 is noticeably heavier - though I personally don't have any issues with that. I use the stylus quite a bit so that's another point in its favour, as is the ability to use custom ROMs/root it/etc. Oh, I'm in the UK so have the Exynos version.
Not sure about the A50 being 'buggy' as the one we have works fine in day to day use on a completely stock ROM. Android 10 should be out for it anytime soon as well.
Oh, and the N9 is also noticeably faster, just installing apps, for example.
That's my experience anyway.
Dude, I don't know where in the US do you live (regarding to phones prices), and I don't mean to be rude, but this question makes no sense at all. You're comparing a flagship phone to a mid-range budget phone from nearly the same time.
It's fairly obvious that a higher-end, more expensive phone will be better in almost every aspect. No need to compare at all: SO MUCH better hardware, absolutely better camera (more quality and functions such as a better pro mode), additional functionality (DeX, MHL), etc. It's only fair... since one retailed for something like 800 dollars (N9) and the other one for around 280 USD...
By the way, I would certainly not recommend Samsung if you're into modding. Samsung phones are OK but they lack a lot of community development and customization mainly because of Exynos chipsets and locked bootloaders. There are obviously a few exceptions such as some international models that use Qualcomm processors, but that's it.
EDIT: what I meant is that the price difference between both phones, translates into A50 being a less capable product in every aspect. It's not bad at all for it's price, but keep in mind it's a 250 dollar phone. If you can afford N9, it's a flagship, and certainly not too old to be relevant in 2020.
If you can't go for it, maybe set for something in the middle like an A70? That one comes with a Snapdragon SoC, which brings support to GCam and stuff.
This phone is a massive 90° turn for google as much on the software side than the hardware.
SO let me know:
1- Are you excited for the GP6 Pro?
2- Do you plan on buying it?
3- What the feature, following the leaks and the I/O that you anticipate the most?
For me :
1- YESSSSSS!!!!!!! (see the title)
2- I'd love to, I'll wait though. I want to see the firsts feedbacks before buying one.
3- To me, the whitechapel SoC really picked my interest a lot. It will either be a deception or a big nice surprise, don't disappoint me Google!
Yes, sort of.
Maybe. I have the Pixel 5: a meh phone, with useless VZ 5G so I turned it off. The only things I'm happy with are battery life, weight/portability, and that I didn't upgrade my plan to a 5G plan.
New in-house chip. I'm not holding my breath on "new and improved" because Google tends to let everyone down prior to announcement, so I'm expecting the same here.
Edit: To be fair, I flipped flopped on buying the Samsung Galaxy 21 Ultra for the camera. What keeps me with Pixel is their call screening. There's been so many of them, the call screening is the best.
I'm buying it the second it's ready!
I'm not excited bcz it has the same 8mp periscope that Vivo, Realme or ZTE etc are using
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I'm not excited bcz it has the same 8mp periscope that Vivo, Realme or ZTE etc are using
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Lol and that shows some ignorance. Those other phones don't use Google's software processing for photos. And that's a HUGE deal.
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Lol and that shows some ignorance. Those other phones don't use Google's software processing for photos. And that's a HUGE deal.
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We can atleast have GCam on other 8mp periscopic phones to get a similar output like GP6 pro. Hence wanted Google to have its in-house sensor or atleast get one from other sensor makers specifically for GP6 pro. PS: those other phone can atleast have GCam and I didn't ignore this.
I'm gonna buy it as soon as I can. I am still running my Pixel 2XL.
1- Yes, finally the Pixel phone we were waiting for.... Hopefully
2- Day One
3- Combination of the Whitechapel SOC and Camera setup. Still not the same amount as the 21 Ultra, one thing Google knows is how to get the best out of hardware they go with. We are talking about the potential capability of iPhone structure but with more modern tech throughout the phone.
I'm very excited as I am for most Pixel releases. I am buying the second it becomes available. I'm afraid if I wait, with the chip shortage, I might miss out if I don't act fast. I am really excited about the new chip and, hopefully, tight integration between software and hardware. I am also really excited for the triple camera setup. Between the nearly 1" sensor, higher resolution and Googles image processing software I am fully expecting them to retake the photo crown back from Apple.
I would like to see eSIM availability on day one. One National carrier, and eSIM for spare carrier/international travel. I sold my Samsung S21+ Unlocked because I couldn’t activate an eSIM!
I have currently a Oneplus 8 Pro. Camera is very average, with Android 11 they moved further away from stock Android, Updates come very slow now that there are newer Oneplus devices (had november security patch until mid february, then we got january patch instead of february...)...
I am so excited for Pixel 6 Pro, as this phone is finally a pixel phone that seems to make no compromises:
Tripple cam
Big Battery
120 hz
Great performance chip (not a hardcote gamer, so must not be top notch for me)
New camera senors...!
I think Pixel 6 Pro will crush it this year.. looks like a S21 Ultra with clean Android.. !! Nice!
But i guess the price tag will be huge, around S21 Ultra launch price (maybe just a little less)
I'm not excited. Mainly because ever since I bought the Pixel 1 and loved it, and used it until a year ago when I got a 512 GB Samsung, I was anticipating getting a 256 GB Pixel as my next upgrade once one was available. I waited four years and now, though, I wouldn't upgrade to another Pixel unless it had 512 GB of internal storage (or have a Micro SD slot, which won't happen with the Pixel). I like my music local and in FLAC, and have my entire library with me. I'm happy that they've finally decided to have 256 GB of storage as an option, but that just won't cut it for me anymore.
I'm extremely apprehensive about this, on one hand it's possibly the flagship Pixel that we've always wanted. On the other hand, it's running a custom chipset that's based on exynos. What does that mean for root access? It seems like exynos chips are always running behind on getting rooted and are generally less efficient than their Snapdragon counterparts. That's complicated by the fact that it's basically a bespoke chip now just for pixel phones.
We'll see, I'm currently holding on with my OnePlus 6t, but OP is dead to me going forward. I was planning on definitely switching to Pixel, but now I'm waiting to see how much access the dev community has to the device
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I'm extremely apprehensive about this, on one hand it's possibly the flagship Pixel that we've always wanted. On the other hand, it's running a custom chipset that's based on exynos. What does that mean for root access? It seems like exynos chips are always running behind on getting rooted and are generally less efficient than their Snapdragon counterparts. That's complicated by the fact that it's basically a bespoke chip now just for pixel phones.
We'll see, I'm currently holding on with my OnePlus 6t, but OP is dead to me going forward. I was planning on definitely switching to Pixel, but now I'm waiting to see how much access the dev community has to the device
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Yes, Oneplus is really not what it once was anymore.
For Exynos Chipset: the exynos Chipset in the S21 Series is great. It is about on the same level than the Snapdragon. Some people even claim it has better battery life and doesnt heat up as much than the Snapdragon version.
Since the Pixel 6 Chip seems to be based on this Exynos Chip with some minor changes, i am sure it will be great!!
It is the first Exynos phone i would buy.
The difference between exynos and snapdragon s21 is not noticable anymore. I m pretty sure that performance and battery will be great.
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Yes, Oneplus is really not what it once was anymore.
For Exynos Chipset: the exynos Chipset in the S21 Series is great. It is about on the same level than the Snapdragon. Some people even claim it has better battery life and doesnt heat up as much than the Snapdragon version.
Since the Pixel 6 Chip seems to be based on this Exynos Chip with some minor changes, i am sure it will be great!!
It is the first Exynos phone i would buy.
The difference between exynos and snapdragon s21 is not noticable anymore. I m pretty sure that performance and battery will be great.
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True, while the gap is closing, there is still a gap. That's really not my main holdup, it's getting root without losing too many features.
Google has been tightening the reins on Android for years. Hopefully we will get full root access without many sacrifices, just need to wait and see
The last google phone I purchased was the Nexus 4 at release, then later I got a Nexus 9. The Pixel series has never interested me, especially design wise. If the P6P's renders are accurate it'll be my 1st google device in years.
I've been running Samsung devices the past few years because no Pixel hardware has really impressed me since the 2XL. The software has been great but hardware has been lacking. I desperately want to get back on the Pixel bandwagon and if all these leaks turn out to be accurate this will finally be the phone that does it! I'll be trading in my Note Ultra 20 on it. Wish we didn't have to wait til late September or October.
Yep...I am. I hope the Pro version has a flat screen instead of a curved screen though.
Raiz said:
This phone is a massive 90° turn for google as much on the software side than the hardware.
SO let me know:
1- Are you excited for the GP6 Pro?
2- Do you plan on buying it?
3- What the feature, following the leaks and the I/O that you anticipate the most?
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1. I'm stoked. Haven't been this excited for a Google device since the Galaxy Nexus w/Ice Cream Sandwich, though the Nexus 5 leak accompanied by KitKat ranks up there.
2. I plan on F5'ing the Google Store repeatedly as soon as the presentation starts, so yeah.
3. Whitechapel and, Material You (biggest software overhaul since 4.4). Also it seems like Google gives a darn about hardware now.
wolfeyes30 said:
Yep...I am. I hope the Pro version has a flat screen instead of a curved screen.
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With u on this