Verizon Specific Radio? - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

As the title states, is there a VZW specific radio for the Pixel 2 XL? I have the unlocked international version of the phone.
I've loaded a custom ROM, but the signal strength is poor and data is constantly dropping or switching from 4G > 3G.

CenFlo said:
As the title states, is there a VZW specific radio for the Pixel 2 XL? I have the unlocked international version of the phone.
I've loaded a custom ROM, but the signal strength is poor and data is constantly dropping or switching from 4G > 3G.
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Probably has the correct LTE bands for Verizon.
xda member Atelesco posted this here at https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/european-pixel-2-xl-network-t3696261
On the Google Store site for the Pixel 2 it list the same bands for the US version as the GB version:
from the GB site
Channels
World-wide network/mobile compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800 Mbps DL/75 Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4 x 4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on operator support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and works on major operator networks.
2*Indicates the bands that support 4x4 MIMO

michaelbsheldon said:
Probably has the correct LTE bands for Verizon.
xda member Atelesco posted this here at https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/european-pixel-2-xl-network-t3696261
On the Google Store site for the Pixel 2 it list the same bands for the US version as the GB version:
from the GB site
Channels
World-wide network/mobile compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800 Mbps DL/75 Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4 x 4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on operator support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and works on major operator networks.
2*Indicates the bands that support 4x4 MIMO
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I did find this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/testing-performed-factual-information-t3702662
I've also tried all combo's of network type, but nothing seems to help. My 6P runs on VZW just fine using the "Global" for preferred network type.
There's also a post on one of the ROM threads where VZW peeps are having the same issues. I had to revert back to my 6P as the Pixel was unusable with the signal and data drops.

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Nexus 5x LGH791

Hi,
I have received new Nexus 5x LGH791, which is European version.
I live in North American and have T-moble service.
Would this phone with with T-mobile, including 4G LTE?
Also, would it work with Project Fi? I understand that Sprint is using CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM network, and this phone doesn't support CDMA. Can it still work with T-mobile only within Project Fi?
Thanks a lot for your help in advance!
two seconds of googling man. there are 3 versions:
North America:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC0/1/10
LTE (FDD): B1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25/26/29
LTE (TDD): B41
LTE CA DL: B2-B2, B2-B4, B2-B5, B2-B12, B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-B29, B4-B4, B4-B5, B4-B7, B4-B12, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29, B41-B41
Verizon customers: If you have a new SIM card and are having problems activating it, try restarting your phone. If that doesn't work, call Verizon Customer Care at (800) 922-0204. You'll need your IMEI number, which you can find by going to Settings > About phone > Status > IMEI information.
Hong Kong:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/5/8
TDS-CDMA : B34/39
LTE (FDD): B1/3/7/8/26
LTE (TDD): B38/39/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B3-B3, B3-B7, B3-B8, B39-B41, B41C-B41C
Rest of world:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
CDMA: not supported
LTE (FDD): B1/2 /3/ 4/5/7/8/9/17/18/19/20/26/28
LTE (TDD): B38/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B1-B5, B1-B7, B1-B8, B1-B18, B1-B19, B1-B26, B3-B3, B3-B5, B3-B7, B3-B8, B3-B19, B3-B20, B3-B28, B5-B7, B7-B7, B7-B20, B7-B28, B40-B40, B41-B41
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6102470?hl=en
2x4 said:
two seconds of googling man. there are 3 versions:
North America:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC0/1/10
LTE (FDD): B1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25/26/29
LTE (TDD): B41
LTE CA DL: B2-B2, B2-B4, B2-B5, B2-B12, B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-B29, B4-B4, B4-B5, B4-B7, B4-B12, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29, B41-B41
Verizon customers: If you have a new SIM card and are having problems activating it, try restarting your phone. If that doesn't work, call Verizon Customer Care at (800) 922-0204. You'll need your IMEI number, which you can find by going to Settings > About phone > Status > IMEI information.
Hong Kong:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/5/8
TDS-CDMA : B34/39
LTE (FDD): B1/3/7/8/26
LTE (TDD): B38/39/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B3-B3, B3-B7, B3-B8, B39-B41, B41C-B41C
Rest of world:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
CDMA: not supported
LTE (FDD): B1/2 /3/ 4/5/7/8/9/17/18/19/20/26/28
LTE (TDD): B38/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B1-B5, B1-B7, B1-B8, B1-B18, B1-B19, B1-B26, B3-B3, B3-B5, B3-B7, B3-B8, B3-B19, B3-B20, B3-B28, B5-B7, B7-B7, B7-B20, B7-B28, B40-B40, B41-B41
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Hi,
Thanks, I know that there are different phone versions. I was asking if my LGH791 'Rest of world' version of the phone would work with T-mobile's 4G LTE? I've read somewhere that T-mobile's 4G LTE works in B2 and B4 LTE bands, which this phone does support, and wanted to confirm that. Also, since Google's Project Fi works with T-mobile, then can this phone work with Project Fi also and stay only in T-mobile's network (not switching to Sprint's CDMA network)? Thanks!
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
Lower 700 MHz band 12 (in development) / in service in selected areas
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Should be fine. I don't see why you'd have a problem with Project Fi, it just wouldn't ever see CDMA.
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You won't have band 12, but neither do I since we get to enjoy the lovely TV channel 51 instead.
exninja said:
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
Lower 700 MHz band 12 (in development) / in service in selected areas
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Should be fine. I don't see why you'd have a problem with Project Fi, it just wouldn't ever see CDMA.
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You won't have band 12, but neither do I since we get to enjoy the lovely TV channel 51 instead.
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Sorry for my noob question, would flashing a newer baseband/radio help to get band 12 on h791?
No, available frequencies would depend on hardware.
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No, available frequencies would depend on hardware.
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Thank you. However, I found a few topics that some users had difficulties with band 12 with US version, by my understanding the issue is related to providers, mostly t-mobile. Do you know what this is all about?
No, I haven't really cared about band 12 since i found out my metro area wouldn't get it until they get rid of the TV station

Oneplus 3 N. America model utilizes CDMA...

Anyone else notice the GSM Arena band listings for the OnePlus 3 states CDMA for the North America model? Anyone planning on using this phone for a carrier on a CDMA network, what are your thoughts?
Technology
GSM / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - North America
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - Global model
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - North America
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700) - North America
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global model
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE Cat6 300/50 Mbps
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
There's no CDMA.
Is there a source? Personally I use AT&T, and I see if it is true what is showing, then it is 3g CDMA data only, but you say just no. Trying to help others who may be interested to know this what they may be getting...
According to the OnePlus website it does include CDMA, but it won't work on LTE on Sprint or Verizon. It does not have any of Sprint's LTE bands and does not have Verizon's main LTE band, and neither carrier would activate it because of that.
My guess is it is possibly for abroad CDMA then.

5X (International) Compatibility with Verizon?

Hey guys. I'm looking to make the jump from AT&T to Verizon. From my understanding the domestic 5X is compatible with their network (but not "officially" supported). I have the international model and am wondering if it will work also. Trying to decipher my findings below - mainly the "f" and "c" references. Thanks.
Verizon bands: (droid-life website)
3G BANDS 3G FREQUENCIES 4G LTE BANDS 4G LTE FREQUENCIES
0, 1 850, 1900 2, 4, 13 1900, 1700 f, 700 c
Int 5X phone bands: (phonemore website)
GSM Mhz band Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900
2G network GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G network UMTS 800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
4G network LTE Cat6 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 (Bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,17,18,19,20,26,28), TD-LTE 2300/2500/2600 (Bands 38,40,41)
Data network GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+, LTE, LTE-A

US / European Pixel 2 XL network compatibility differences?

Are there any differences between US and European Pixel 2 XL regarding network compatibility? I don't see any difference when comparing tech specs on US/UK/German Google store...
A friend of mine is traveling to Europe so I was thinking I could save $200...
Any ideas?
jsabolic said:
Are there any differences between US and European Pixel 2 XL regarding network compatibility? I don't see any difference when comparing tech specs on US/UK/German Google store...
A friend of mine is traveling to Europe so I was thinking I could save $200...
Any ideas?
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I received mine one day before traveling from the US to France. Both my home SIM card and the Orange one I use work fine. Service can be spotty but I think that's regional and not a phone issue. I have LTE throughout Paris...
Here's an answer from an expert - top contributor in a topic in the Google Groups "Pixel User Community" group:
Hello there, the original Pixel had some differences in the supported LTE bands and there used to be some differences in supported bands for Pixel 2 at launch as well, but now they seem to have updated the Pixel 2 listings to match on both North American and International variants. So according to those listings, there aren't any differences between the North American and International variants.
On the Google Store site for the Pixel 2 it list the same bands for the US version as the GB version:
https://store.google.com/gb/product/pixel_2_specs?hl=en-GB
https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_2_specs?hl=en-US
and if you account for the 20% GB VA Tax that is included within the price of the phone the cost of the two are the same (+/- exchange rate)
from the GB site
Channels
World-wide network/mobile compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800 Mbps DL/75 Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4 x 4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on operator support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and works on major operator networks.
2*Indicates the bands that support 4x4 MIMO

G7+ Dual SIM - which model works in Europe/Poland and USA

I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
shanekm said:
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
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Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
Working perfect for me here in Europe.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
shanekm said:
Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
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I answered this question earlier in your other post. Remember I own this phone on tmobile.
No one uses band 66 or 71 from what i've seen anywhere.
Tmobile uses band 4, 2 in some areas, or 12. At least from what I've seen.
You're overanalyzing things now.
I've tested the bands in the service menu.
Why don't you call t-mobile and ask them if they use a strange band like 66 in your area? I've never heard of that before.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does the LMG710EAW really support both bands 7 and 20? My research turned up that it supported band 7 (2600mhz) but not band 20 (800 mhz) or is this just due to them only listings bands from that region?
I ordered one without maybe doing my due diligence and Vodafone UK for 4G is bands 7 and 20
I have both LMG710EAW and LMG710ULM in hands, LMG710EAW doesn't seem to support B20, as in the parking area I get 4G on ULM but not with EAW.
But it's strange as today I had a look on the original packing of ULM, it's written with B20 support???
Also from LG site, FDD 4G Networks, without B20: 2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
https://www.lg.com/hk_en/mobile-phone/lg-LMG710EAW-128GB

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