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Should I upgrade to the G3?

Hello everyone!
I currently have a galaxy S4 and don't feel like spending $600 or being on a monthly payment plan via AT&T and was considering just buying a used, last generation phone. I was looking at the Galaxy S5, the LG G3, and a few other ones (maybe Sony's Z3 and HTC's M8). One thing I wish the G3 had was the USB 3.0 charging that the S5 has but, apart from that, the specs on the G3 look awesome! I had a few questions that you guys might be able to answer:
1) Are you happy with the G3?
2) If you were looking to get an older generation phone now, would you get the G3 or another phone?
3) Are the bootloaders locked in the G3? (The S4 had the bootloaders locked in an update so I want to ensure that if this is an issue, I get one that hasn't been updated to a locked bootloader).
If you guys don't mind helping me make the right decision with an upgrade, I'd appreciate it. Thanks a lot!
-Jay

1. I'm over the moon with my g3, as are a lot of users. Now that we've had time to open it up, it's got so much custom rom and kernel availability that I only wish I got off stock sooner. Coming from an s4 to the g3, will make a world of difference. Any battery or performance issues due to the screen can be negated with rooting and using a custom rom that is more optimized than the stock ROM (For an exmple you can go to the g3 Android development section and check out the custom roms and what they look like, as well as the features they pack).
2. I'd get the g3 as a "past generation" phone in a heartbeat, for the reasons above.
3. Yes, the boatloader is locked, LG is notorious for locking their devices bootloaders, but we've been able to achieve root and custom ROM support by Bumping the custom rom images (Signing them with legit tags to make the boatloader think it's official firmware) so at this point I don't think that'll matter at all.
TL;DR: Coming from an S4 to the G3 will be one heck of an upgrade. And, with the custom support, you won't regret it.

iDefalt said:
1. I'm over the moon with my g3, as are a lot of users. Now that we've had time to open it up, it's got so much custom rom and kernel availability that I only wish I got off stock sooner. Coming from an s4 to the g3, will make a world of difference. Any battery or performance issues due to the screen can be negated with rooting and using a custom rom that is more optimized than the stock ROM (For an exmple you can go to the g3 Android development section and check out the custom roms and what they look like, as well as the features they pack).
2. I'd get the g3 as a "past generation" phone in a heartbeat, for the reasons above.
3. Yes, the boatloader is locked, LG is notorious for locking their devices bootloaders, but we've been able to achieve root and custom ROM support by Bumping the custom rom images (Signing them with legit tags to make the boatloader think it's official firmware) so at this point I don't think that'll matter at all.
TL;DR: Coming from an S4 to the G3 will be one heck of an upgrade. And, with the custom support, you won't regret it.
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Thanks for the recommendation! I appreciate it!

Snapdragon and Exynos

guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so

Either one is okay. Depends on your carrier I would assume.

carries is kpn, but they are simlock free , kpn 4g with speed of 225Mbit for data, but that wasnt my question , i wanted to know witch is beter for feature , Snapdragon or Exynos both have cons and ups
snapdragon
more energy save
faster gpu
cons
slower load time eventhough it is 2.7ghz quad core
Exynos
faster multitask
faster loading aps
cons
faster battery drain
slower gpu
so i want ot make the right choice

Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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This is the Sprint forum. Only one choice.

i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum

Wesley_NL said:
i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum
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Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.

Cjam180 said:
Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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i see, thx for the warning but s6 is difrent from note right ?, the s6 is problematic bcus the edge ?
from what i have readed most ppl on xda voted for exynos on the poll yet no customs , i realy liked the customs like archidroid, it was fast , smooth, easy to use and install/setup and i was hoping there is one for the note 4 to but for me its a kind of difficult choice , so snapdragon has more custom roms faster gpu but its slower in performance and not 64bit ready, and the exynos is faster , slower gpu and less custom roms
the note4 is a difficult choice for me atm it seems

DreamingWolf said:
Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.
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it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box

While I am no expert on the difference between domestic and international phones for the US, from what I understand you will want to stick with exynos. The snapdragons are specific to the networks in the US. Will and do they work internationally? Yes. However, I believe you will run into issues with data with snapdragon phones internationally. I may be wrong on this so anyone can feel free to correct me but from what I understand, a note 4 with exynos will be better suited to the carriers internationally.
This is a US carrier section so many of us are not up on this info since we fairly rarely run into this. The general section for the note 4 will have more of an international following I believe.

Wesley_NL said:
it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box
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I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.

DreamingWolf said:
I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.
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are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it

Wesley_NL said:
are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it
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If they do, it isn't through Sprint.
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Wesley_NL said:
guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so
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i know i am partial to the snapdragon versions in all cases, the snapdragons include the available hardware for the fm radios, and even if the fm radio app is not included, u can use nextradio or even the spirit fm radio app from here at xda... and the snapdragons have always been easier to root/unlock booloader, etc., if u ask me... and the snapdragons just seem cooler to me, in a vibe sort of way...

Custom Roms/Kernels

Hi abit weird to ask but why isn't there any loads of customs roms or kernel in note 10 + ? supposedly is a good phone but the amount of roms and kernels avail are just a small handful. Is this due to samsung lockdown the device or less popularity among devs? i could only count 2 roms which are stock and 1 lineageos plus nemesis kernel.

The Snapdragon US models have locked bootloaders and therefore cannot take any roms or kernels. The international (Exynos) models have unlockable bootloaders and the roms you see are for them.

enginuity2 said:
The Snapdragon US models have locked bootloaders and therefore cannot take any roms or kernels. The international (Exynos) models have unlockable bootloaders and the roms you see are for them.
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Yeah i do know that. Is just that for exynos variant there isnt much roms such as havosOS or custom kernels. And threads were pretty much dull or dead. I do understand no etas but some of the threads were like dead or simply no response. Pretty much like a good phone with zero options for custom roms and kernels. I rly do wish some dev out there picked this phone up as a custom project.

I think the high price of the device means people are more afraid to lose their warranties, which results in less demand for custom ROMs and less people being interested in developing them. I'm glad I have yet to bootloader unlock as I'm having the screen replaced under warranty later this week.

Rooting the Samsung Galaxy s20+

All of the U.S. Samsung Galaxy S20+ devices will all have locked bootloaders just like all of the other U.S branded Samsung devices so this device will never ever be able to be rooted correct.so if I want to do any rooting I need to buy a international version right? Thanks In advance!!!
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I'd say more or less that's probably the best bet but for sure is not 100% occasionally they find a way be it rare imo

I would never say never. I came from a Galaxy S7 Edge, which was eventually rooted when someone released an ENG kernel that could be flashed, allowing root. Of course it was super unstable and caused your phone to lag and overheat, but it was still a thing.
But yeah, the Exynos version is already sporting an unlocked bootloader and legitimate root. If you're really dependent on root, you want the international version. I bought my US/Verizon variant knowing I probably would never be able to root it in any kind of good way.

Why do you need root?
What do you need that doesn't have a non-root solution?
I am just curious.

sublimaze said:
Why do you need root?
What do you need that doesn't have a non-root solution?
I am just curious.
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Because I was hoping down the road the of it was possible to root the U
S. version on the s20+ that we might possible be a to run a custom rom on it from the international s20+ model.Bit I'm just a ignorant noob that do know anything.and I really like running custom roms if at all possible.I'am very sorry for boring you with my stupid question and answer.sorry...
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GDane1 said:
Because I was hoping down the road the of it was possible to root the US. version on the s20+ that we might possibly be able to run a custom rom on it from the international s20+ model. But I'm just a ignorant noob that do know anything and I really like running custom roms if at all possible. I am very sorry for boring you with my stupid question and answer.sorry...]
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No need to apologize. Some people have solid reasons for rooting. I was a crackflasher years ago, back when OEM skins were janky and lacked basic features. Custom ROMs filled a void that was desperately needed. Nowadays, OEM skins are significantly improved and offer a lot of customization and practical options.
Having said that, I wouldn't hold my breath for Snapdragon models to get a bootloader unlock. Snapdragon has become a tough nut to crack, and Exynos has traditionally been more mod-friendly. So if you want custom ROMs, get the Exynos model.
Edit: Before buying, you should know the Exynos model appears to get worse battery life than Snapdragon. So you must decide which is more important: Custom ROMs, or longer battery.
If you are in the US, you should also determine if the Exynos model supports all the bands used by your carrier.

Question Does this phone really have no custom ROMs?

I don't see separate sub-forums for ROMs and recoveries etc. Just wondering what happened to this phone? The root is available. So, why is ROM development not there?

devsk said:
I don't see separate sub-forums for ROMs and recoveries etc. Just wondering what happened to this phone? The root is available. So, why is ROM development not there?
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Root is not available on all versions. There is no unlocking the bootloaders on the US versions.

Oh... And there is this.
[13][ROM][sGSI][CWAI+][Exynos2200] Pixel Experience Plus
Pixel Experience Plus "s"GSI DISCLAIMER I am not to be held responsible for any damage that might come to your device while trying to install or using this rom. This is your own responsibility. What is this? Pixel Experience is an AOSP based...
forum.xda-developers.com

Latest Samsung phones are not really friendly towards custom roms and third-party modifications. S20 is advancing at a really low pace compared to S10 and S9 series, which recieved a lot of love from the community. Maybe, if you're truly interested in custom rom development, you should get a phone from another brand (OnePlus, Google, etc..)

Tbh considering how long Samsung is supporting their phones currently i do not miss custom ROM's that much..

k3lcior said:
Tbh considering how long Samsung is supporting their phones currently i do not miss custom ROM's that much..
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I feel the same way. I would only bother with a custom rom if SOT was a few hours higher.

Custom ROMs will make changes to your device that cannot be undone. You might have issues later if you want to use company resources on your phone for your job. Also ROMS have really improved a lot the last years. Personally I don't miss custom ROMs anymore on my S22+. Even on my previous S8+ I was really satisifed with stock roms. The only thing I miss today is good ad-blocking. But not enough to 'partially break' my device.

If you can't live with Samsung's bloat, then you need a custom ROM