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Battery Life issues after updating to 7.1.1?

Has anyone noticed battery life has decreased since upgrading to the latest OS?

mdonnelly1127 said:
Has anyone noticed battery life has decreased since upgrading to the latest OS?
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I've seen a decrease in battery performance but this has only been my first day on the update

I haven't noticed any difference. Still fast and battery has been good.

Seems the same to me. I'm on Elemental's kernel though.

Mine is back to the way it was before the 7.1 update.....better.

mine seems like its the same

It depends on what you have enabled, that will make a difference from 7.1 to 7.1.1. For example double tap to wake and lift to wake, you're turning on sensors and having them running, using more power.

clockcycle said:
It depends on what you have enabled, that will make a difference from 7.1 to 7.1.1. For example double tap to wake and lift to wake, you're turning on sensors and having them running, using more power.
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Very good point. I am only running dtw
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oneandroidnut said:
Very good point. I am only running dtw
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"only" ddtw, actually tuns on the digitizer 24/7 waiting for you to ddtw. I don't think it uses too much, at least I've not noticed.
Ive noticed the radios working differently too..

clockcycle said:
"only" ddtw, actually tuns on the digitizer 24/7 waiting for you to ddtw. I don't think it uses too much, at least I've not noticed.
Ive noticed the radios working differently too..
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Interesting my battery life is the same though
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If screen brightness is over 70-80â„… the battery will gone be flat in 6 h keeping just to 50â„… the battery is holding like 14h its strange but the usage is not showing nothing strange,or maybe my phone is defective...
Pixel XL User

My home has weak (or non-existent) cell signal strength. Since 7.1.1, Mobile Standby uses twice the power compared to anything else, and as a result overall battery life is hugely reduced. Under 7.1, the battery curve flattened off nicely overnight; now, it just continues downhill.

richlean said:
My home has weak (or non-existent) cell signal strength. Since 7.1.1, Mobile Standby uses twice the power compared to anything else, and as a result overall battery life is hugely reduced. Under 7.1, the battery curve flattened off nicely overnight; now, it just continues downhill.
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Can you not change the radio? I'm not sure if their backward compatible but worth looking into
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I've wondered the same thing, but until now, I've been happy to keep my Pixel in original, stock condition.
Will see how it goes over the next few days, but might have a go at changing the radio if it's as bad as it currently seems.

richlean said:
I've wondered the same thing, but until now, I've been happy to keep my Pixel in original, stock condition.
Will see how it goes over the next few days, but might have a go at changing the radio if it's as bad as it currently seems.
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That's fair enough!
Let it settle and have a look into it! Hopefully it'll get you back to a better battery life
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Battery is still good for me.

Battery life has been great for me no issues since 7.1.1

Yeah my battery has been good now too... Idk very weird maybe it was the DTTW or maybe the new version needed to sit in for a few days. I don't know... But whatever thanks for the update guys!

i have a few tweaks in my build.prop that have seemed to helped with my battery, along with su.d scripts that run on boot that have helped alittle.

My pixel XL (unlocked bootloader, stock otherwise) shows 25% battery, then suddenly powers off the phone. When I plug into power while off it shows 0% battery. I power on phone and get into OS and it shows the same 0% or 1% and proceeds to charge properly. However, when it gets down to 25% again it just powers off and says 0%. Is my phone's battery toast or am I missing something?

January Update

What are people expecting? I found the December one fixed most things.

More memory management: ZRAM=3072 & swappiness=300. Maybe they can add more cores with software too! LOL
Seriously, I felt a good kernel, like Kirisakura, fixed all my issues before Google did.

Ollie798 said:
What are people expecting? I found the December one fixed most things.
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You never know until the Bulletin comes out on Monday the 7th.

I am hoping for them to fix the static/clicking noise from the top earpiece. It's getting really annoying hearing it during phone calls.

I want them to fix the eq for the mic. The audio is garbage like it was on pixel 2 when it came out.

Battery battery battery. Fix the standby time

I hope they fix when I answer a call using speakerphone and the person on the other end for the first few seconds is saying" are you there"?

Battery Stand by and performance could be better.

flavioa said:
Battery battery battery. Fix the standby time
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Really? I mean, for me the battery life is great on this phone. Specially the stand by. Just like the 2 XL. With AOD, overnight I lose ~8%; very simliar to any Samsung Note. Without AOD I lose ~2% overnight. This is like 6 - 8 hours we are talking about.

Aaditya91 said:
Really? I mean, for me the battery life is great on this phone. Specially the stand by. Just like the 2 XL. With AOD, overnight I lose ~8%; very simliar to any Samsung Note. Without AOD I lose ~2% overnight. This is like 6 - 8 hours we are talking about.
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Not just talking about standby time overnight when the phone is laying in one spot. I'm talking about standby time when its in your pocket during the day and you're moving around. It's significantly worse then my iPhone xs max. I used both of them the same and when I'm done with work the iPhone is around 73% the pixel is around 45% with same usage. Cause the pixel is losing battery while sitting in my pocket

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Not just talking about standby time overnight when the phone is laying in one spot. I'm talking about standby time when its in your pocket during the day and you're moving around. It's significantly worse then my iPhone xs max. I used both of them the same and when I'm done with work the iPhone is around 73% the pixel is around 45% with same usage. Cause the pixel is losing battery while sitting in my pocket
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Same network? Also, does your phone heat up while in your pocket?

Google needs to fix the exposure issues with the camera. The Pixel underexposes way to much crushing shadow details in bright lit environments especially. Shutter speed can be improved further reducing motion blur as well. The iPhone with its Smart HDR has superior dynamic range in my opinion. Google really needs to make some updates to its visual core and add 4K 60fps.

Aaditya91 said:
Same network? Also, does your phone heat up while in your pocket?
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Same network. Same account. Same location. I haven't noticed any heating up at all.

I would like to see them add an option in display settings to do basically what Nacho Notch does and hide the notch, while putting the notification and time, battery content up on the top of the screen and not force it down like they do now with the option to hide it in only developer settings. I want this option added by default so I don't need to load a third party app to do it and we don't have the issues with the back button being the same color as the background like we do with Nacho Notch.

Yep. I've mentioned this elsewhere. I like to call and answer with speakerphone and there is always a delay.
This is probably my biggest gripe with the phone.
I had the 2xl and the 3xl is better in every way except for this and a couple of other really minor issues.
The December update took care of the memory issues and overall seemed like a robust update.
Hopefully people complained about this issue and it gets resolved asap.
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I hope they fix when I answer a call using speakerphone and the person on the other end for the first few seconds is saying" are you there"?
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Stop the Bluetooth volume slider from popping up when you answer a call on BT. I don't understand why they thought blocking the button to choose whether to take the call on BT/Speaker/Phone was a good idea.
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9.1???

Anyone having screen brightness issues? I find that the screen sometimes does not adjust brightness levels according to the environment. Even manually adjusting the level still results in a dim screen. I have to reboot the device to fix it.

jmartin72 said:
9.1???
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Nah impossible, every years we got leaks months earlier and this year we got nothing

You must have something in the background that is draining your battery. My Pixel will lose between 1-3% overnight.

A couple of semi-hard questions about MMax3

Good morning
Xiaomi Mi Max 3 is certainly a top contender to be the best phone in terms of SOT.
I. Do You think MM3 SOT will be better than Redmi Note 4 (4100 mAh - small screen) and Moto E5 Plus (5000mAh also smaller screen)?
II) Did you experiance ant bugs in the sticj user interface?
III) What would you describe as pros and cons of this phone?
IV) What is your charging time when OFF from zero to 100% using box charger?
and finally do You think that's the best normal looking (not armored type) phone with the best SOT?

I. Perhaps worse, factoring in their specs (mostly screen)
II. I suppose you meant "stock". Really, no bugs except for some annoying things while using the Full Screen gestures:
when typing with a keyboard in one-handed mode it's very easy to hit the areas for the gestures, resulting in missed clicks around the edges of the screen (bottom for the home/recents gesture and sides for the back/switch app gesture).
also you might do it accidentally sometimes but I guess it's just something to get used to.
III. Pros:
Battery life is great for this phone factor
Has a headphone jack
Type-C
IR Blaster
Fast face unlock/fingerprint unlock
Comfortable yet still massive (depends on your hands)
Back camera array is pretty good and you can force camera2api with root.
Cons:
Speaker isn't the best OOB (you can tweak it with Viper though)
Front camera isn't very good
Before-mentioned gesture problems (you get used to it and learn to use it though)
Anti Rollback
IV. I can't really answer that because I don't use my device very hard so it ends up with like 60% at the end of the day if I used it more, also I don't like doing 0-100% charges as I'm anxious about wasting battery cycles, so hopefully someone can cover that instead of me.
Also the looks aren't really something that matters to me, but this phone looks really sleek to me so I guess that's a yes.
Hope I answered the things you asked ^^

1. Yes according to experience and gsmarena
2. Daily driver bug, Swiftkey keyboard resize, and perhaps a few untranslated chinese here and there. China rom 6gb 128gb model.
3. Pros: Roaming NETWORK BANDS, IR Blaster, headphone jack, batt, notchless screen, microsd
Cons: Speakers, rooting & roms, ymmv camera
4. Not sure rarely had to push it that far.. Keeping it above 60% at most times with slow charge to prolong battery longevity.
5. Energizers 16000mah phone will beat this phone.
Overall i picked this for the superior batt, near flagship roaming bands, notchless screen, plus jack and ir, all for a reasonable price.
CPU is just the right balance for lagfree use and batt efficiency. I don't game so GPU power was never what I was looking for.

shoukanju said:
5. Energizers 16000mah phone will beat this phone.
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Wasn't it canceled?

g3njln said:
I. Perhaps worse, factoring in their specs (mostly screen)
II. I suppose you meant "stock". Really, no bugs except for some annoying things while using the Full Screen gestures:
when typing with a keyboard in one-handed mode it's very easy to hit the areas for the gestures, resulting in missed clicks around the edges of the screen (bottom for the home/recents gesture and sides for the back/switch app gesture).
also you might do it accidentally sometimes but I guess it's just something to get used to.
III. Pros:
Battery life is great for this phone factor
Has a headphone jack
Type-C
IR Blaster
Fast face unlock/fingerprint unlock
Comfortable yet still massive (depends on your hands)
Back camera array is pretty good and you can force camera2api with root.
Cons:
Speaker isn't the best OOB (you can tweak it with Viper though)
Front camera isn't very good
Before-mentioned gesture problems (you get used to it and learn to use it though)
Anti Rollback
IV. I can't really answer that because I don't use my device very hard so it ends up with like 60% at the end of the day if I used it more, also I don't like doing 0-100% charges as I'm anxious about wasting battery cycles, so hopefully someone can cover that instead of me.
Also the looks aren't really something that matters to me, but this phone looks really sleek to me so I guess that's a yes.
Hope I answered the things you asked ^^
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You've earned your 3rd Thanks button acction!
Absolutely fantastic answer(s)!
Please help me out with these:
1. Very few people understand how important for the phone's ergonomics is the activation of letters, functions or gestures using the "holding hand". It can drive the user nuts.
You know your stuff very well bro.
2. Do You think the 1. will appear also when using 2 hands?
3. I never use use gestures so will the 1) issue be a problem for me?
4. Anti Rollback - what do you mean by this?
5. If your day ends with 60% why don't you let your next day end up in 20%?
6. Does 0%-100% charges waste battery? Some people say it's good for the battery cause it forms and calibrates it.
7. Are You worried about wasting battery cycles because of potential selling of the phone?

shoukanju said:
1. Yes according to experience and gsmarena
2. Daily driver bug, Swiftkey keyboard resize, and perhaps a few untranslated chinese here and there. China rom 6gb 128gb model.
3. Pros: Roaming NETWORK BANDS, IR Blaster, headphone jack, batt, notchless screen, microsd
Cons: Speakers, rooting & roms, ymmv camera
4. Not sure rarely had to push it that far.. Keeping it above 60% at most times with slow charge to prolong battery longevity.
5. Energizers 16000mah phone will beat this phone.
Overall i picked this for the superior batt, near flagship roaming bands, notchless screen, plus jack and ir, all for a reasonable price.
CPU is just the right balance for lagfree use and batt efficiency. I don't game so GPU power was never what I was looking for.
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that's the 40th Thanks button for you - THANK YOU!!!
1. "Cons: (....) roms, tymmv camera" - can you be more specific? What did You have in mind?
2. 60% why not 20% and..... - The same question as above.
3. "near flagship roaming bands" - can you be more specific? What did You have in mind?
4 "Daily driver bug, Swiftkey keyboard resize" - can you be more specific? What did You have in mind?
Sorry for my bad understanding of English.

Roms: some people would like more custom rom developments to be made available on xda.
Camera: some people think the camera isn't good enough
60% battery: this is best for your phone according to many experts online. The lower your battery level, the more strain there is on the battery to maintain a stable power output. Think of it like collecting water from a well; easy when its full, and harder and harder when it starts to run dry.
Also, heat is the no. 1 enemy of your battery. Quick charge produces more heat. So does car windshield phone holders as you're literally cooking the phone under the sun (i use an air cond vent holder)
Network bands: number of 4G LTE Channels the phone support. More than your average budget phone. LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), TDSCDMA, CDMA.
Swiftkey bug: https://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001432823-Keyboard-sizing-issues
Energizer phone: Was launched but in low quantity. They are launching a 18000mah model soon. https://www.gsmarena.com/energizer_...h_an_18000mah_battery_and_more-news-35221.php

shoukanju said:
Roms: some people would like more custom rom developments to be made available on xda.
Camera: some people think the camera isn't good enough
60% battery: this is best for your phone according to many experts online. The lower your battery level, the more strain there is on the battery to maintain a stable power output. Think of it like collecting water from a well; easy when its full, and harder and harder when it starts to run dry.
Also, heat is the no. 1 enemy of your battery. Quick charge produces more heat. So does car windshield phone holders as you're literally cooking the phone under the sun (i use an air cond vent holder)
Network bands: number of 4G LTE Channels the phone support. More than your average budget phone. LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), TDSCDMA, CDMA.
Swiftkey bug: https://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001432823-Keyboard-sizing-issues
Energizer phone: Was launched but in low quantity. They are launching a 18000mah model soon. https://www.gsmarena.com/energizer_...h_an_18000mah_battery_and_more-news-35221.php
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I clicked the thanks button, that's now 41st thanks point for you - THANK YOU!
1. Does the 60% rule apply also to othe phones/models/brands?
2. Is it better to turn off the fast charge to give the battery more life?
3.that Energizergot got canceled
4. Is this bug a very irritating issue?
5. Does it exist in Mi Max 2?

Hi,
1. I get 14h Sot over 6 days from 100 to 0. Normal use without gaming. Xiaomi.eu Rom
2. No bugs for me - runs great
3. Pros: big screen, great batterie, good camera with gcam, headphone jack, fullscreen gestures, price
Cons: None for me
4. In general I load the phone from 30 to 80 in 90mins with non quick charge charger. 0 to 100 with qc I think it is little over 2 hours.

blackxr said:
Hi,
1. I get 14h Sot over 6 days from 100 to 0. Normal use without gaming. Xiaomi.eu Rom
2. No bugs for me - runs great
3. Pros: big screen, great batterie, good camera with gcam, headphone jack, fullscreen gestures, price
Cons: None for me
4. In general I load the phone from 30 to 80 in 90mins with non quick charge charger. 0 to 100 with qc I think it is little over 2 hours.
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THANK YOU!!! - +1 thanks point for You
1. 6 days of SOT mmmm that's pure melody. Can You specify more what do You do under your SOT
4. What do You prefer? charging the phone from 30% to 80% or from 0%-100%? Is it fifty-fifty? or do you have a preference for example to charge from zero to 100%? What is the ratio of charging from 30% to 80% to from 0% to 100%? Do You believe and perforem the method of prolonging battery life that is about not discharching the phone below a few tens of % (like 60%-20%)?
5. Is normal charger the one from the phone box? Does the fast charger has to be bouguht sepretly and does it require a special USB cable or normal?
6. Did MM3ax ever lagged or got frozen?

I don`t get 6days of sot. I have 14 hours sot within 6 days standby. Sot is mostly surfing, texting, mails, youtube, news . Some navigation and photos.
Yes, charging from 30 to 80 will hopefully exceed batterie life. It is about lithium ion batterie physics.
Qc charger comes with the phone. I use a different charger with a little lesser output. Mostly because this one fits german sockets other than the original chinese one.
No lags and freezes for me.

blackxr said:
I don`t get 6days of sot. I have 14 hours sot within 6 days standby. Sot is mostly surfing, texting, mails, youtube, news . Some navigation and photos.
Yes, charging from 30 to 80 will hopefully exceed batterie life. It is about lithium ion batterie physics.
Qc charger comes with the phone. I use a different charger with a little lesser output. Mostly because this one fits german sockets other than the original chinese one.
No lags and freezes for me.
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it's good that You explain that 6 days/SOT
thank you +1 thank point foe you

Look here a max 3 shot

I have the max 2 many redmis with good battery but like this non
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nokiagye said:
I have the max 2 many redmis with good battery but like this non
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So You're saying that Mi Max 3's battery is better than Mi Max 2 and other Redmis?
Can You list all your Xiaomi phones that You have please?
It's very important.

BTW +1 THANKS +1 THANKS points for your both replys.
BTW#2 can You get these images in English please? (switch to english language and capture them)

androidbadboy said:
So You're saying that Mi Max 3's battery is better than Mi Max 2 and other Redmis?
Can You list all your Xiaomi phones that You have please?
It's very important.
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It's not that important but the photos
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nokiagye said:
It's not that important but the photos
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THESE Are the OLD photos NOT in English dude!!!

7 hours screen time from 100 to 80% I didn't see that on any other phone no matter the usage. On this case I was almost always on fly mode with wifi on and I was browsing and watching YouTube.
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nokiagye said:
7 hours screen time from 100 to 80% I didn't see that on any other phone no matter the usage. On this case I was almost always on fly mode with wifi on and I was browsing and watching YouTube.
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What do you mean by saying "On this case I was almost always on fly mode"

Why I already sent my Note 20 Ultra back!

Well I am honestly shocked by this. I sort of expected the S20 Ultra not to meet my standards but not the Note 20 Ultra! Decided to stick with my Note 10+ for a bit until maybe Z Fold 2 or Note 20 Ultra drops in price or for another who knows how long.
Anyways thought I would share with you guys why I decided to stick with Note 10+ over the Note 20 Ultra.
First off the Note 20 Ultra is nowhere near a bad phone, much of an improvement over the S20 Ultra which I thought was junk. The main highlights of the device just didn't seem worth $1300+ to me.
Screen overall is literally just a hair bigger and actually a hair less vibrant and saturated then the Note 10.
Screen refresh rate still not sure why this is such a huge deal. Can you tell a difference? Yes slightly depending on what you are doing. Sort of like 4k on a tablet or small laptop really just not worth it imo
Cameras, oh yes the cameras. Glad to see the autofocus issue was fixed from the S20 Ultra and photos are great no matter what camera but the main sensor unless you are using the 108 mp for extreme detail and then you lose HDR look very similar to the Note 10. Only huge difference is the zoom lens on the Ultra and it is a big one. 5x zoom looks great and even 10x in most cases looks very good and usable. This is the only thing that made me actually want to keep the 20
Everything else is pretty much the same again as Note 10+ nothing else worth mentioning really
Few photos of the differences in whites and camera bumps and the pretty much same screens

Note 10+ physically looks a lot better to me.

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Note 10+ physically looks a lot better to me.
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Yeah I was reading reviews and wasn't pleased with what Samsung did.
The variable refresh rate is cool especially if it save battery, kudas there.
The cam has laser assist AF lock too I believe, well done.
5 G, good.
The fastest Snapdragon yet yields a real performance boost although the 10+ never seems slow.
The bad, price tag is through the roof for the 512gb model.
This Note is even harder to protect than the 10 due the cam hump. That also means it really needs a case. Reports of no factory screen protector, not good especially since you'll want to lay it face down because of the cam hump.
Doesn't hardware support AptX HD bluetooth, very disappointing.
Not enough gain to replace the Note 10+ however a good upgrade maybe for a Note 8 or older.
However the Note 10+ is still a viable option especially if you want Pie.
In 2 months my Note 10+ will be a year old and it's still looking great, running strong in fact better then it ever has. Truth be told I'm still learning to use many of its features... not bored or tired of it by a long shot.
Samsung gave nothing much new for HD audio in the 20; AptX HD should have been present... a 3.5 mm jack been nice too.
Samsung needs a top shelf flagship model to get many people to upgrade from the 10+; this isn't it.
Add to that the world economy is a mess.
Samsung should have tried harder and catered more to the performance crowd to set this new Note further apart from the 10+.
Part of the reason for the fail is Samsung doesn't listen to its customers very well. Oh well... I'll wait.

On my Note 10+ I want:
A) Better battery.
B) Better fingerprint sensor. I see new pixels keep them to the back side. Well done Google.
C) Get rid of the silly front camera hole.
As long as these don't change, there is no reason to upgrade for me. Software updates, unnecessary camera and screen changes does not attract me. Especially with that price tag.

Speaking for those of us who get the Exynos chipset... Samsung sucks balls...
Thery are selling INFERIOR hardware for the same price, this relegates the 120Hz refresh rate to HD+ only and NOT to UHD, not because the phone can't handle it but because the Exynos chipset can't. They can't give part of the world this and leave everyone else out in the rain as that would highlight the inadequacies of the Exynos.
Exynos throttles, is a bigger drain on battery, it alters the picture quality of photo's taken and Samsung have the balls to charge us the same as the Snapdragon 865+ chipset...
For this the can shove the Note 20 Ultra, big camera bump and all, where the sun don't shine...

The price is just pure GREED! Useless money spent on creap publicity!
Any "high end" phone with Exynos cpu is ****.
However 120hz screen is fine. For me. Don't care much for qhd+/8k bull****. On a phone screen ?!?
I like Note 10+ 5g for the square screen (very rare these days) and the design. Only minus for me is that the display could be at least 90hz.
A good thing on 10+ and 20 ultra is sd card slot.
I will never buy 20 ultra even if the price will be 500 euros with exynos cpu!

denism81 said:
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Maybe enough returns will get Samsung's attention to listen to what their customers what... and don't want.
The large storage is great but not without easy 24 bit audio output. The 3.5 mm jack, there's room for it and spend the extra few cents for the bt chipset that supports AptX-HD.
Sad because this fix was easy and cheap to do.
This very expensive phone should have the best and latest chipsets in it, it doesn't. A locked bootloader doesn't give me any thrills either, Samsung Pay and Knox grrrr.
Fail, again.
As for the cams, at this price point buying a dedicated Canon for shooting makes more sense; much better interchangable optics and dedicated AF/image processors.
I use my 10+ more like a laptop than a cam...
That cam hump sucks and I see it as a major liability from a damage stand point. The Note 10+ is hard enough to protect, the 20 U is far worse.
Then there's wittle Bixby... other than it's cam smart functions it's completely worthless to me and a huge privacy invasive.
Wearables have the same privacy issues and need all the permissions under the sun to even load, really?
Samsung is very hard of hearing.
Kudos for jamming their Note 20 U were it belongs...

The only thing I wish Samsung would do for their camera is when you turn off hdr it actually turns off. So ridiculous. Hdr is always on no matter what you do. Besides switching to pro mode.

I'm sticking with my Note 10+. Am very pleased with it and I've only suffered 2% battery degradation in the first year of use. Using it daily 4 to 12 hours screen on time.
I love how thin the device is and the camera bump on the Note 20 Ultra is not acceptable to me.

Agreed, the Note 20 Ultra is a bit too overpriced, $1300 for almost no improvement over the previous year's device? No thanks.

Raydianze said:
I'm sticking with my Note 10+. Am very pleased with it and I've only suffered 2% battery degradation in the first year of use. Using it daily 4 to 12 hours screen on time.
I love how thin the device is and the camera bump on the Note 20 Ultra is not acceptable to me.
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How is it possible to measure that? Battery degradation, I've been curious lately about that

TonyGzl92 said:
How is it possible to measure that? Battery degradation, I've been curious lately about that
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Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+

Raydianze said:
Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+
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When you first set it up, the battery estimate it gives is from the Android system's battery degradation estimates. I have another app that can see it as well.
It's overlay ma meter is useful.

Raydianze said:
Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+
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Seriously bro?
Accubattery isn't accurate at telling you the battery health on current devices. Its a known common fact on here.

Limeybastard said:
Seriously bro?
Accubattery isn't accurate at telling you the battery health on current devices. Its a known common fact on here.
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I consider it more a battery charging tool.
It's useful as a charge alarm, for it's milliamp overlay usage and battery temp info.
It's charge history is useful unfortunately it's highest resolution is in minutes.
I divide the total about of milliamps absorbed during the charge cycle by the time it took to gauge battery health. I consider anything above 85 [email protected] good in the 30-70% range.
As the battery degrades I expect this value will decrease.
Lol, the phone's battery life estimate isn't any better.
The app is glitchy, it stops recording charge history.. A reload every now and then solves that. This would make it's long term wear estimates inaccurate even if it's wear curve is accurate.
Short term though it's wear graph gives a good comparative indication of how much you're degrading the battery.
Graphically illustrates why you don't want to charge above 80% or go below 30% very often.

blackhawk said:
I consider it more a battery charging tool.
It's useful as a charge alarm, for it's milliamp overlay usage and battery temp info.
It's charge history is useful unfortunately it's highest resolution is in minutes.
I divide the total about of milliamps absorbed during the charge cycle by the time it took to gauge battery health. I consider anything above 85 [email protected] good in the 30-70% range.
As the battery degrades I expect this value will decrease.
Lol, the phone's battery life estimate isn't any better.
The app is glitchy, it stops recording charge history.. A reload every now and then solves that. This would make it's long term wear estimates inaccurate even if it's wear curve is accurate.
Short term though it's wear graph gives a good comparative indication of how much you're degrading the battery.
Graphically illustrates why you don't want to charge above 80% or go below 30% very often.
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Indeed. As bad as some of it's functionality is, I still use it and have done so since my Note 4 days. This and GSAM are normally the first two apps that get installed on any new Android device that I use.

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Indeed. As bad as some of it's functionality is, I still use it and have done so since my Note 4 days. This and GSAM are normally the first two apps that get installed on any new Android device that I use.
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Going to start unplugging the charger right after a battery percentage point flips to try to get better than a 60 second resolution for the charge history.
Lol, the first app I install is the package disabler.
Going to try Gsam, Thanks.... see how well it's battery tracker does.

blackhawk said:
Going to start unplugging the charger right after a battery percentage point flips to try to get better than a 60 second resolution for the charge history.
Lol, the first app I install is the package disabler.
Going to try Gsam, Thanks.... see how well it's battery tracker does.
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Just make sure to remove it off battery optimization. Similar to accubattery pro.

Limeybastard said:
Just make sure to remove it off battery optimization. Similar to accubattery pro.
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The only things I have toggle in Device Care are Optimize for power setting and fast charging.
Then I disable Device Care.
Using the old factory load Pie version which has 360° on it. I use it's cache cleaner as it cleans well but I put in airplane mode first.
All buckets show as active in standby apps; no power management is active other than the embedded Android ones. Runs great

Question S21fe - Green glow

Hello, is the phone still having problems with the green screen in low brightness? As is the case with the s20 series?

adek89 said:
Hello, is the phone still having problems with the green screen in low brightness? As is the case with the s20 series?
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I did not encounter a problem like that (snap version).

KlemenC said:
I did not encounter a problem like that (snap version).
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and what does the issue of overheating look like? instagram, browser, yt?

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and what does the issue of overheating look like? instagram, browser, yt?
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no overheating problems...
It is true that i have debloated it, and have most apps on deep sleep (except mail and few other), so i limit background activity.
I also use "galaxy max hz" mod so i can force low refresh rate and batery saving on screen off.

Thank you very much. I'm thinking about s20fe and 21fe. However, when I watch yt and see what are the temperatures or the results on the battery, it rejects me a bit

I understand. I moved to s21 FE from upper mid range galaxy a8 (2018). I i would say that battery efficiency on s21 fe is a bit lacking. I am not a power user so with the old phone i needed to charge oproximately every 5 days. With this one optimised as best i could i reach 3 days, maybe 4. I know that it has bigger screen and faster refresh rate and those things impact battery life a lot, but i would say that snap 888 has an inefficient standby or the low power cores are still too power hungry for my taste...
Don't get me wrong i love the phone, and am happy that i switched. The main reason for me was getting an upper range camera sistem at a low as possible price, and i bought the phone through a samsung trade in program. Also in europe it is realy hard to get any galaxy phone with a snapdragon procesor...
Hope this helps you in deciding.