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What's the battery life like?

Spec-wise, this phone seems great, with the glaring exception of the battery's size.
I'm hoping someone with the phone could let me know, ideally as detailed as possible, what the battery life is like. Thanks!

duraaraa said:
Spec-wise, this phone seems great, with the glaring exception of the battery's size.
I'm hoping someone with the phone could let me know, ideally as detailed as possible, what the battery life is like. Thanks!
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Initial tests mentioned a screen on time of 4h+, which is nothing to write home about.
On another hand, even though we have a "mere" 3k mAh battery & 5.7" screen, the latter is amoled, which should offer considerable savings as compared to LCD.
I'm waiting for my unit to be shipped, will do some tests & share.

adwinp said:
Initial tests mentioned a screen on time of 4h+, which is nothing to write home about.
On another hand, even though we have a "mere" 3k mAh battery & 5.7" screen, the latter is amoled, which should offer considerable savings as compared to LCD.
I'm waiting for my unit to be shipped, will do some tests & share.
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This is why it is somewhat tempting to go with the $399 5.5" model and the Snapdragon 625. You lose a bit from the 5.7" SD 820: no AMOLED, smaller sensor in the camera, only 4 GB of RAM, but based on battery tests with other phones with the 625, the life could be better than the 820 model.
Review units in the U.S. are starting to appear, TechnoBuffalo recently received their 5.7" and did a quick preview on it.

FYI. PCMagazine has a review up of the 5.7", SD 820 version. They managed about 7 1/4 hours on their video run-down test. The Axon 7 with the same test ran about 6 hours, Samsung S7 Edge, around 10(!).

eelpout said:
FYI. PCMagazine has a review up of the 5.7", SD 820 version. They managed about 7 1/4 hours on their video run-down test. The Axon 7 with the same test ran about 6 hours, Samsung S7 Edge, around 10(!).
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They panned the phone though. TechnoBuffalo loved it, but PC Mag said the camera was shoddy and the UI is absurdly intrusive.
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CattleRancher said:
They panned the phone though. TechnoBuffalo loved it, but PC Mag said the camera was shoddy and the UI is absurdly intrusive.
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CNet liked the regular Zenfone 3 in a recent review. Though they too, thought the Zen UI was way too heavy. Seems to be a problem with some of the imported Android phones lately.
At this point I won't get a Deluxe unless it can be rooted, which I think is likely to happen based on Zenfone 3 progress.

It's the best thing you can atheistically look at. Battery life will get you one day of strong usage. Which combined with USB type-c that's nothing to be bothered by. I'd give the overall phone a solid 8.5 out of 10.

Battery life is terrible.
The same apps I use with no issues on other devices (including other sd820) cause a severe battery drain on the z3d.
My guess is the power management policy in the HAL, framework, or issues with the scheduler on the kernel level.
Initial investigation points to communication apps (Riot, Conversations), which cause a lot of wakelocks (then again, no such issues on other devices).
Once (& if) we have a bootloader unlock, this will be one of the first topics to address in custom kernel builds or custom rom builds.

I go ten hours at work with 2 plus screen time, 30-45 minutes on phone, 3 emails syncing, Facebook, instagram, Snapchat, two phone numbers, and I leave with 50% battery.
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I'm in the same boat as mostly everyone else here. I'm heavily on my phone while at work as well (roughly 6 hours of constant use on most days with heavy internet usage as well). I stay at work 2 days in a row every 3 days, and in that time frame, I still go home with 30-40% battery still left on my phone.
If I were still using my note 4, I would have had to put the phone e on the charger twice a day for both of those days.
Plus, with the dual SIM feature, I don't have to carry around a work phone. My boss was more than happy to get me a nano SIM for my pho e when he found out both my work phone and personal phone would be one in the same and easier to contact.
So yeah, with the above stated, for me, the battery life is way better than what I have put up with on the note 4 for the past 2 years.

Battery is great for me. I don't have a SIM yet but use Google hangouts/Voice# and am constantly on my phone browsing and using different apps. I charged it 7 hours ago, it has 3 hours of screen on time so far, and battery is at 57%. It says it has 9 hours left (based on my current rate, I will probably hut around 7 hours of screen on time. That is on High Performance, though also without a mobile network connected. I am constantly connected to and using wifi though and location is on too.)
Plus with QC3, my phone charges from dead to full in an hour. It is crazy fast.
Edit: Correction, I am in Power Saving mode as I guess I clicked into it when prompted last time my battery drained and forgot to switch back. Didn't notice a performance difference though so maybe I'll stick with this mode until I play a game. Next time I recharge, I will put it in High Performance and record my Screen on time then.

How bad is the Exynos S20/S20+

It seems clear now that once again the Exynos version is inferior this year and as I understand it the known disadvantages are as follows:
Inferior real world performance (actually is capable of better but suffers with thermals)
Power management
Different (worse) camera module in the Exynos vs. the SD
I'm guessing that most positive comments are from snapdragon users so for those with an Exynos, how are you feeling? and better still does anybody out there have both versions?
I have the S20+ and have been a little disappointed, the camera has been pretty average (only just got April update so not tested that yet) and I have noticed that the phone gets quite warm quite quickly, being in lockdown the battery has not jumped out yet as I am never more than one room away from a charger.
Thoughts??

S20 exynos user here and I'm fine with it...
I don't game which helps of course, but get decent battery life (idle drain 0.5-0.7%/hr and when using the phone a lot I get around 6 hrs SOT, actually 6:13 atm and 15% left). Pictures are fine as well, coming from an S10+ they are sharper overall but exposure can be a bit tricky every now and then. I hope and think things will improve in future updates.
Thing is I really prefer the smaller sized phones, I mean the OP8 and P40's also look great but they are simply too big for me. The S10+ was already on the edge, can work with it but less then optimally comfortable.
Would I have rather had the SD version? Yeah
Is the exynos a reason for me to return? No
I have paid about 630 euros for it though, had I paid full price I might have judged differently and indeed returned it.
I did optimize things (96hz refresh rate, disabled some apps I don't need/use, etc) so that might have helped with battery life. No custom roms or anything though so no warranty issues.

Having S20 Exynos.
Very disappointed with S20 after a 3 weeks of use.
Very bad battery performance. looks like I have started to control my ph usage looking at the battery no's declining. hahhahaha very very funny.
phone heats up with min usage( not sure is it cause of summer or exynos. hahaha).But this is true in my case even in indoor usage.
Just few min of use can see temp raise to 37+. If use camera for more than 5 min or so. it goes above 40 & refresh rate drops to 60.
I really don’t understand what Samsung trying to do here. impose on users, who have paid hefty money for their products.
It’s been more than a month. yet we still have to go thru these. Even after their multiple updates
camera not really to Samsung mark to be (compare to previous models.no major improvements).
Only thing which makes me to use over note 10+ is 120hz. Rest not worth the price.
I don’t say the phone is bad, but not worth the upgrade for the price.
At the core I guess Samsung is aware they have screw up the S20 series using exynos.
Hope with Note 20 they will make it up to retain their fans with SD processor. If this is not going happen, then for sure ill also be one of them to say goodbye.

*very BAD*

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*very BAD*
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ideal phone will be pixel 4XL with 5000mAh battery , oh maybe it can be a little biger as s20 ultra - ideal phone to me .

buy yourself the one 8pro and you will be better off - wish id done that but rushed into the samsung phones not knowingly how **** they are this year

Thanks all.
It is strange but OnePlus's stance on the Always on Display has always really irritated me, not just that they have still not added one but mostly how they have apparently been 'working on it' like forever. It is a feature I like, not a reason to buy or not buy a phone but when all others offer it it does tip the balance. The P40 is amazing and the whole google thing is really frustrating.
I also agree that the Pixel 4 XL is REALLY close to being the best overall droid out there, slightly nicer design, brighter screen and a higher storage option and it would be IMO. On the flip side though the S20 is also REALLY close too.
Out of interest what is the best way to monitor the battery temperature in real time? I'd kind of like to test that.

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Out of interest what is the best way to monitor the battery temperature in real time? I'd kind of like to test that.
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I've used Battery Widget Reborn since my HTC Desire days, it has a widget that can be configured for battery temp.
Just put it on the screen next to Accubattery now ...

Reading alot about exynos version battery life. I have s20+ exynos 4G model. I had note 9 and I felt it had good battery life. Then I got s10+ and the battery anxiety was completely gone. And from s10+ to s20+, I feel battery life is almost the same as my s10+, on 120 hz. I dont disable anything. Using completely stock. No issues what so ever. I get 5 to 6 hrs of battery life if I use the full cycle and standby 16 to 18 hours, with 20% or so remaining.
I tend to stick to 40 to 85% cycle. Developed this habit when I had s10+ since the battery anxiety was gone. I charge twice a day, once in the morning to 85% and once in late afternoon or evening (when it hits around 40%). Not more than 25 to 30 mins each (25W charger works well). So, an hour of charging works for me easily. I think since I have the 4G model I am not getting problems most ppl are.
Also, I don't play games except for one, 2048. Two gmail, two facebook and messenger, two whatsapp, Twitter, snapchat, Instagram. All the office apps.
Camera is better than my s10+. The pictures are sharp and I am very happy with it.
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Why I already sent my Note 20 Ultra back!

Well I am honestly shocked by this. I sort of expected the S20 Ultra not to meet my standards but not the Note 20 Ultra! Decided to stick with my Note 10+ for a bit until maybe Z Fold 2 or Note 20 Ultra drops in price or for another who knows how long.
Anyways thought I would share with you guys why I decided to stick with Note 10+ over the Note 20 Ultra.
First off the Note 20 Ultra is nowhere near a bad phone, much of an improvement over the S20 Ultra which I thought was junk. The main highlights of the device just didn't seem worth $1300+ to me.
Screen overall is literally just a hair bigger and actually a hair less vibrant and saturated then the Note 10.
Screen refresh rate still not sure why this is such a huge deal. Can you tell a difference? Yes slightly depending on what you are doing. Sort of like 4k on a tablet or small laptop really just not worth it imo
Cameras, oh yes the cameras. Glad to see the autofocus issue was fixed from the S20 Ultra and photos are great no matter what camera but the main sensor unless you are using the 108 mp for extreme detail and then you lose HDR look very similar to the Note 10. Only huge difference is the zoom lens on the Ultra and it is a big one. 5x zoom looks great and even 10x in most cases looks very good and usable. This is the only thing that made me actually want to keep the 20
Everything else is pretty much the same again as Note 10+ nothing else worth mentioning really
Few photos of the differences in whites and camera bumps and the pretty much same screens

Note 10+ physically looks a lot better to me.

denism81 said:
Note 10+ physically looks a lot better to me.
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Yeah I was reading reviews and wasn't pleased with what Samsung did.
The variable refresh rate is cool especially if it save battery, kudas there.
The cam has laser assist AF lock too I believe, well done.
5 G, good.
The fastest Snapdragon yet yields a real performance boost although the 10+ never seems slow.
The bad, price tag is through the roof for the 512gb model.
This Note is even harder to protect than the 10 due the cam hump. That also means it really needs a case. Reports of no factory screen protector, not good especially since you'll want to lay it face down because of the cam hump.
Doesn't hardware support AptX HD bluetooth, very disappointing.
Not enough gain to replace the Note 10+ however a good upgrade maybe for a Note 8 or older.
However the Note 10+ is still a viable option especially if you want Pie.
In 2 months my Note 10+ will be a year old and it's still looking great, running strong in fact better then it ever has. Truth be told I'm still learning to use many of its features... not bored or tired of it by a long shot.
Samsung gave nothing much new for HD audio in the 20; AptX HD should have been present... a 3.5 mm jack been nice too.
Samsung needs a top shelf flagship model to get many people to upgrade from the 10+; this isn't it.
Add to that the world economy is a mess.
Samsung should have tried harder and catered more to the performance crowd to set this new Note further apart from the 10+.
Part of the reason for the fail is Samsung doesn't listen to its customers very well. Oh well... I'll wait.

On my Note 10+ I want:
A) Better battery.
B) Better fingerprint sensor. I see new pixels keep them to the back side. Well done Google.
C) Get rid of the silly front camera hole.
As long as these don't change, there is no reason to upgrade for me. Software updates, unnecessary camera and screen changes does not attract me. Especially with that price tag.

Speaking for those of us who get the Exynos chipset... Samsung sucks balls...
Thery are selling INFERIOR hardware for the same price, this relegates the 120Hz refresh rate to HD+ only and NOT to UHD, not because the phone can't handle it but because the Exynos chipset can't. They can't give part of the world this and leave everyone else out in the rain as that would highlight the inadequacies of the Exynos.
Exynos throttles, is a bigger drain on battery, it alters the picture quality of photo's taken and Samsung have the balls to charge us the same as the Snapdragon 865+ chipset...
For this the can shove the Note 20 Ultra, big camera bump and all, where the sun don't shine...

The price is just pure GREED! Useless money spent on creap publicity!
Any "high end" phone with Exynos cpu is ****.
However 120hz screen is fine. For me. Don't care much for qhd+/8k bull****. On a phone screen ?!?
I like Note 10+ 5g for the square screen (very rare these days) and the design. Only minus for me is that the display could be at least 90hz.
A good thing on 10+ and 20 ultra is sd card slot.
I will never buy 20 ultra even if the price will be 500 euros with exynos cpu!

denism81 said:
Note 10+ physically looks a lot better to me.
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Maybe enough returns will get Samsung's attention to listen to what their customers what... and don't want.
The large storage is great but not without easy 24 bit audio output. The 3.5 mm jack, there's room for it and spend the extra few cents for the bt chipset that supports AptX-HD.
Sad because this fix was easy and cheap to do.
This very expensive phone should have the best and latest chipsets in it, it doesn't. A locked bootloader doesn't give me any thrills either, Samsung Pay and Knox grrrr.
Fail, again.
As for the cams, at this price point buying a dedicated Canon for shooting makes more sense; much better interchangable optics and dedicated AF/image processors.
I use my 10+ more like a laptop than a cam...
That cam hump sucks and I see it as a major liability from a damage stand point. The Note 10+ is hard enough to protect, the 20 U is far worse.
Then there's wittle Bixby... other than it's cam smart functions it's completely worthless to me and a huge privacy invasive.
Wearables have the same privacy issues and need all the permissions under the sun to even load, really?
Samsung is very hard of hearing.
Kudos for jamming their Note 20 U were it belongs...

The only thing I wish Samsung would do for their camera is when you turn off hdr it actually turns off. So ridiculous. Hdr is always on no matter what you do. Besides switching to pro mode.

I'm sticking with my Note 10+. Am very pleased with it and I've only suffered 2% battery degradation in the first year of use. Using it daily 4 to 12 hours screen on time.
I love how thin the device is and the camera bump on the Note 20 Ultra is not acceptable to me.

Agreed, the Note 20 Ultra is a bit too overpriced, $1300 for almost no improvement over the previous year's device? No thanks.

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I'm sticking with my Note 10+. Am very pleased with it and I've only suffered 2% battery degradation in the first year of use. Using it daily 4 to 12 hours screen on time.
I love how thin the device is and the camera bump on the Note 20 Ultra is not acceptable to me.
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How is it possible to measure that? Battery degradation, I've been curious lately about that

TonyGzl92 said:
How is it possible to measure that? Battery degradation, I've been curious lately about that
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Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+

Raydianze said:
Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+
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When you first set it up, the battery estimate it gives is from the Android system's battery degradation estimates. I have another app that can see it as well.
It's overlay ma meter is useful.

Raydianze said:
Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+
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Seriously bro?
Accubattery isn't accurate at telling you the battery health on current devices. Its a known common fact on here.

Limeybastard said:
Seriously bro?
Accubattery isn't accurate at telling you the battery health on current devices. Its a known common fact on here.
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I consider it more a battery charging tool.
It's useful as a charge alarm, for it's milliamp overlay usage and battery temp info.
It's charge history is useful unfortunately it's highest resolution is in minutes.
I divide the total about of milliamps absorbed during the charge cycle by the time it took to gauge battery health. I consider anything above 85 [email protected] good in the 30-70% range.
As the battery degrades I expect this value will decrease.
Lol, the phone's battery life estimate isn't any better.
The app is glitchy, it stops recording charge history.. A reload every now and then solves that. This would make it's long term wear estimates inaccurate even if it's wear curve is accurate.
Short term though it's wear graph gives a good comparative indication of how much you're degrading the battery.
Graphically illustrates why you don't want to charge above 80% or go below 30% very often.

blackhawk said:
I consider it more a battery charging tool.
It's useful as a charge alarm, for it's milliamp overlay usage and battery temp info.
It's charge history is useful unfortunately it's highest resolution is in minutes.
I divide the total about of milliamps absorbed during the charge cycle by the time it took to gauge battery health. I consider anything above 85 [email protected] good in the 30-70% range.
As the battery degrades I expect this value will decrease.
Lol, the phone's battery life estimate isn't any better.
The app is glitchy, it stops recording charge history.. A reload every now and then solves that. This would make it's long term wear estimates inaccurate even if it's wear curve is accurate.
Short term though it's wear graph gives a good comparative indication of how much you're degrading the battery.
Graphically illustrates why you don't want to charge above 80% or go below 30% very often.
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Indeed. As bad as some of it's functionality is, I still use it and have done so since my Note 4 days. This and GSAM are normally the first two apps that get installed on any new Android device that I use.

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Indeed. As bad as some of it's functionality is, I still use it and have done so since my Note 4 days. This and GSAM are normally the first two apps that get installed on any new Android device that I use.
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Going to start unplugging the charger right after a battery percentage point flips to try to get better than a 60 second resolution for the charge history.
Lol, the first app I install is the package disabler.
Going to try Gsam, Thanks.... see how well it's battery tracker does.

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Going to start unplugging the charger right after a battery percentage point flips to try to get better than a 60 second resolution for the charge history.
Lol, the first app I install is the package disabler.
Going to try Gsam, Thanks.... see how well it's battery tracker does.
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Just make sure to remove it off battery optimization. Similar to accubattery pro.

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Just make sure to remove it off battery optimization. Similar to accubattery pro.
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The only things I have toggle in Device Care are Optimize for power setting and fast charging.
Then I disable Device Care.
Using the old factory load Pie version which has 360° on it. I use it's cache cleaner as it cleans well but I put in airplane mode first.
All buckets show as active in standby apps; no power management is active other than the embedded Android ones. Runs great

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I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles

asdor said:
I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles
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Were thinking same

Are there xda awards for the most useless posts? I nominate yours.

Considering the dying PM 8150 chip state I would dare say it's literally impossible to argue that the rog2 is the best phone.

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ianseer said:
Now, because of this post, i will search and buy ROG phone 2 right away
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eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post

dvijetrecine said:
eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post
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quite sure he was being sarcastic

Danishblunt said:
quite sure he was being sarcastic
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i do hope that is the case, as OP is going a bit over the top

Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...

nguadien said:
Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...
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You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Obviously my impressions with "latest updates" are very bad.
Every time an Android device update (or being forced to), battery life always downgrade or shortened, because phone providers want you to feel sluggish, slowed, outdated, inconvenient with your devices. Then you would want to buy newer models after 3 years.
My friends all used Oppo and Samsung. First stock roms always have best battery life and smoothest experience. Then things went down until 2-3 years later, when every devices become all laggy, jittery, battery hungry.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Ok now I updated my experience so far for Android 11:
2201.211 rom: Cannot root, even if I installed Magisk 24.3 FIVE times - yes I tried so many times and ways to install root
2111.160 rom: Can root after installing Magisk 24.3.
- I then used Mantis Gamepad Pro to use PS5 controller. After 2 days it stopped recognizing inputs.
- Without Mantis Gamepad Pro, I can use PS5 controller but of course cannot map properly in-game
- Battery draining rate with Bluetooth is very fast (even when the only app opened is Mantis Gamepad Pro + Ebook reader), -80% battery in 3 hours
=> I'm back to 1910.35 for Android 9 - doubled battery saving, better performance, no Mantis Gamepad Pro bugs
Also, I need to update two bugs in Android 11:
+ It does not accept chargers from other brands, for me it's TWO different Samsung 18W charger (Android 9 accepted them normally).
+ It does not accept charging after being drained to 0%. I accidentally slept when reading ebook, making it drop from 50% to 0% during the night.
Next day, no matter what kind of charger (Oppo, Samsung, Asus), it flashed green charging circle for 0.5s then screen off. I had to charge using Asus charger for 1 hour to bring it to 1%, then held Power key to enter OS. Then it did NOT accept charging, I had to re-plug Asus charger again to make it recognize charging.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Android 11 has Accessibility bug that's not been fixed in any rom
Fake Camera app also cannot work on Android 11
Besides the better System UI and keyboard switching button - I cannot find a reason why Android 11 is better.
Android 9 consumes 5% per 30 min gameplay
Android 11 consumes 20% per 30min gameplay
This is a huge difference man.
However, Android 9 System UI would often stop working for 5-10s if I use older apps in 2018, which is a little annoying.

Question Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G Heating Issue?

My Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G device is heating upto 46⁰+ in BGMI with Screen Recording and Max Brightness. Hows your?
Is this is normal?
please Help!

5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable.

sirgoldi said:
5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable
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sirgoldi said:
5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable.
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So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?

Abhishek5247 said:
So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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You said SD 780G with 5nm, why?

Abhishek5247 said:
So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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It's totally normal, don't worry about it if temp is fine during standard use.
Mine is 5G version not NE but with 780G Snap, only difference. Almost same processor.

sirgoldi said:
It's totally normal, don't worry about it if temp is fine during standard use.
Mine is 5G version not NE but with 780G Snap, only difference. Almost same processor.
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Yes bro, I have one more question that is When I was playing BGMI in that condition which mentioned above after temperature went above 46⁰+ the game became choppy and ping is also became poor. So, Is this also a normal? Or I should Return this please reply...

Abhishek5247 said:
Yes bro, I have one more question that is When I was playing BGMI in that condition which mentioned above after temperature went above 46⁰+ the game became choppy and ping is also became poor. So, Is this also a normal? Or I should Return this please reply...
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It is. Its name is throttling. It happens when chipset is getting too hot and processor/GPU has to slow down automatically as a safety measure to prevent it from damaging itself due to high temperature.
Mi 11 Lite 5G (NE) is pretty innovative design but also not the best choice for gamers as heat dissipation in those phones might be a bit affected because of less metal parts/radiators inside (to reduce its weight). Best would be to make a break or lower resolution/details. Or use fan blowing cold air into your phone in hands.

Abhishek5247 said:
So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine

zgfg said:
It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
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what should be the maximum temperature during normal usage? See mine in attached files in full brightness and at auto brightness it is at approx 35⁰+. Please guide.

Abhishek5247 said:
what should be the maximum temperature during normal usage? See mine in attached files in full brightness and at auto brightness it is at approx 35⁰+. Please guide.
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Cannot 'guide' you. I didn't observe any heating (11 Lite 5G NE, MIUI 12.5.8) and I don't play any games (except solving 5x5x5x cube - but my brain lightly heats then, not the phone)
Consult the service.
If you are unhappy and if your return policy allows, return, pay the difference and take some Pro phone

Also do not expect any flagship with Snap 888 to be much cooler. Performance will be definitely higher but they tend to throttle too and heats like crazy if game is demanding.
Maybe Dimensity 1200 is better in terms of that and much cheaper.

According to the test from notebookcheck which always contains temperature the 5G NE should not heat when not in use. It has a much lower temperature than other devices.
Have a look if you have the wakelock bug. This would heat the device and drain battery.

tag68 said:
According to the test from notebookcheck which always contains temperature the 5G NE should not heat when not in use. It has a much lower temperature than other devices.
Have a look if you have the wakelock bug. This would heat the device and drain battery.
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How to find & resolve this bug?
Now the temperature is approx 38⁰ - 40⁰ during normal usage is this temperature is normal?

zgfg said:
It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
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And what if this unit is defective? How to find that this device is good in condition and others Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G devices facing the dame issues.

Wakelock bug:
I'm not sure how the menu is in English.
Settings (Einstellungen)
Battery (Akku)
Scroll a bit down
Change that list to "Details"
If you see "Wake/Awoke" (Wach) is a full line without any interruption, reboot. This resolves it, at least for this time.
It occurred on my device once, it is a Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro. I would be astaunished if it could not happen on the 11 Lite 5G NE.

Abhishek5247 said:
And what if this unit is defective? How to find that this device is good in condition and others Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G devices facing the dame issues.
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I really don't know, didn't observe (I don't use a lot my Lisa), hence frankly I'm also not interseted about - sorry (user like not, I'm not the Xiaomi helpdesk)
You can ask the service or exercise the return policy - if applicable (I'm not fully happy with my phone but I cannot return and take another unit or model)
Hopefully the answer from tag68 in the previous post can be much more useful for you

See the test on notebookcheck, there's a photo of a heatmap. Their measurement was the highest temperature when heavily used (benchmark) as 33.4 degree Celsius on the upper side, which is quite low compared to other models.

I have a doubt about what is measured during such tests, becaus my Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE overheats in direct sunlight like crazy. It cannot be used to take pictures, see anything on the screen.
I would not recommend this phone for a vacation trip where outdoor temperatures reach 30 or more degrees celsius. I got this overheating while downloading over LTE and after 4 minutes with outdoor temperature at 26 degrees, the phone simply shuts off GPS, BT, WiFi and LTE plus it shows the overheating warning on the display.
I had to turn my back to the sun to read the message, it is a very bad experience and I already regret that I fell for all these comments that the phone does not have any overheating issues. It has, big time and it is very sad that this is never mentioned in any reviews.
I did not buy a phone that must be carried in the dark and cannot be used in direct sunlight. This is simply a no go for me and I will return my phone at the next occasion for a refund.
Furthermore, I did the CPU throttling test and yes this phone with the SD 778 is throttling horribly, this is so bad. I returned my phone now for a refund.
Just as an example how other phones behave I have also tested the Mi 9 Lite, same throttling test, no issue at all the phone did not throttle a single bit whereas the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE did throttle after one minute from 100% to 80% and even further down. This phone is not fit for it's task, there are too many compromises made to the size and thickness of the phone.