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does any one know if dynamic wallpapers cause that much of a drain on battery?
I _think_ they are only active when you are on your homescreen, so it shouldn't be that bad. Still, future will tell, I'm literally getting mine any minute now ^^
but what about when your screen is off? Do they still take up more resources than normal wallpapers?
yeah its true that the Live wallpaper takes up more cpu usage but not terribly that much. When monitoring it on watchdog it about .7% usage and while the screen is off i believe Froyo just puts the program on the back burner so its ready for use when u turn on the screen but wont take up alot of memory either. I had a G1 and never used the Live wall paper but since upgrading to the G2 i am not afraid to use it and enjoying it without losing any battery! only one that is laggy is the google maps one. Great idea but damn that thing can SUCK up CPU usage and battery! pretty though...
Tifa is great, better than Aeris! Also something about cpu usage and live wallpapers...
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Hi ppl,
probably all of you already noticed this trick.
Just in case you didn't... here it is.
On 2nd charge, I could see battery charge graph going down with no stop, even with screen off !
So, I installed BetterBatteryStats (XDA).
Battery killer was HTC Weather.
Guess what ?
On a freshly, just bought HTC One X, Sense refreshes, hourly
Your weather's location (so also GPS eating battery, but it's perhaps acceptable)
Weather from the most important cities in your country (Italy = 15 more or less) !!!!
Once removed all those static defined cities, leaving just the "where I am" and 1 static, HTC Weater became tamed and sane.
And my battery graph on screen off is now FLAT. With Wifi and data on.
I'll not get more scientific here.
The issue is very subtle and unsuspicious; the trick is very easy; the benefits are TREMENDOUS.
I also made refresh interval up to 3 hours. It should help too.
Still, the terrific impact was given by removing those 15 static locations.
I also left enabled the "refresh when opening weather" flag.
Happy trying !
chareos12 said:
Hi ppl,
probably all of you already noticed this trick.
Just in case you didn't... here it is.
On 2nd charge, I could see battery charge graph going down with no stop, even with screen off !
So, I installed BetterBatteryStats (XDA).
Battery killer was HTC Weather.
Guess what ?
On a freshly, just bought HTC One X, Sense refreshes, hourly
Your weather's location (so also GPS eating battery)
Weather from the most important cities in your country (Italy = 15 more or less) !!!!
Once removed all those static defined cities, leaving just the "where I am" and 1 static, HTC Weater became tamed and sane.
And my battery graph on screen off is now FLAT. With Wifi and data on.
I'll not get more scientific here.
The issue is very subtle and unsuspicious; the trick is very easy; the benefits are TREMENDOUS.
Happy trying !
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I did this on my Rom (charmander) just has your location and that's it. Always done this on my personal roms also but never thought of it so save battery lol.
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It has dramatic battery usage.
Then, I also made refresh interval up to 3 hours. It may help too.
Still, the terrific impact was given by removing those 15 static locations.
First thing I've done since my Desire is remove everything except 'My current location'...I don't need to know the weather anywhere else!
EddyOS said:
First thing I've done since my Desire is remove everything except 'My current location'...I don't need to know the weather anywhere else!
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Couldnt agree more. Who cares about weather somewhere else!
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Who cares about inaccurate accuweather info anyway, it's terrible. The only thing it's good for is telling me what it's like now (I have known that to be wrong too). I've got these amazing glass panels in my walls so I can see what the weather is like now. I just don't use it so I turn weather sync off.
I only wish there was an option to change where the weather data comes from like in so many other apps/widgets. MeteoGroup, for example, seems much better.
Same here and ive hit 3 days and 3.5 hours of.screen time.before now.
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Actually I can understand that 1-2 static places could be handy, while planning a trip on a sudden.
But... 15 static places (can't imagine how many they were in bigger countries !!) is just a plain overkill, a complete suicide by HTC.
About accuracy... it seems precise enough here in Italy. Surely it's different as per country.
Please could you take screenshots of your screen on time and battery usage page also what brightness your using. I have a One X resting in the box because it simply can't make it through a working day. My Nokia N8 with the same type of usage. GPS,Weather,whatsapp,calls,web. Is full to almost full by 5pm. Mind you this is with 3G turned off.
Now I'm not expecting the one X to be anywhere near that good but if this would mean the phone lasts me an entire day of normal smartphone usage then I might just dust it off xD.
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Please could you take screenshots of your screen on time and battery usage page also what brightness your using. I have a One X resting in the box because it simply can't make it through a working day. My Nokia N8 with the same type of usage. GPS,Weather,whatsapp,calls,web. Is full to almost full by 5pm. Mind you this is with 3G turned off.
Now I'm not expecting the one X to be anywhere near that good but if this would mean the phone lasts me an entire day of normal smartphone usage then I might just dust it off xD.
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Check the battery stats thread.
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Hmm, seems quite decent. You have some amazing on screen time. I could barely manage 3hrs with auto brightness. Did you notice this increase after removing the other city locations?
What were your stats before removing the extra weather app cities?
I would actually love to know the OP's stats. He says its "TREMENDOUS"
i have not even touched the settings to weather and mine (based in london dunno if makes difference) only shows my current location and refresh every 6 hours or upon open that was my default settings
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Please could you take screenshots of your screen on time and battery usage page also what brightness your using. I have a One X resting in the box because it simply can't make it through a working day. My Nokia N8 with the same type of usage. GPS,Weather,whatsapp,calls,web. Is full to almost full by 5pm. Mind you this is with 3G turned off.
Now I'm not expecting the one X to be anywhere near that good but if this would mean the phone lasts me an entire day of normal smartphone usage then I might just dust it off xD.
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Yup, not really going to take screenshots today
I'd say to you that today I noticed
- phone unplugged at 9.45
- 18.30 (so nearly 9 hours later) I had 3hrs screen on time - intense usage due to SSLauncher setting up - and still 40% battery left.
3G on all the time, a couple of calls, many market downloads.
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Hmm, seems quite decent. You have some amazing on screen time. I could barely manage 3hrs with auto brightness. Did you notice this increase after removing the other city locations?
What were your stats before removing the extra weather app cities?
I would actually love to know the OP's stats. He says its "TREMENDOUS"
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Before the Weather static positions cleanup: 2 hours screen on, battery empty.
After the cleanup: 3+ hours and still 25-30% battery to go.
As I stated in 1st post, I won't go much scientific, other threads are already there with much more data and insight...
yet, the improvement looks TREMENDOUS *thunder* *evil laugh* to me
Back to my phone... 1% battery left
I see:
12h 7min unplugged
4h 49 screen on time
all time with 3G on, all sync (Facebook, Linkedin) on, intense usage due to device setting up (SSLauncher, maps regions pre-download, Flipboard sync and a lot more)
Won't go more scientific than this
Awesome guys, just put the phone on charge, lets see how it goes tomorrow Maybe I'll finally fall in love with my One X
So I took it of the charger @ 6am today. It is now 5pm and normally the battery would be dead by now. At the moment it is @ 43%.
My brightness is set to auto and the phone tells me my on screen time is only 53mins. You guys are talking about something like 4hrs on screen with this fix. So I don't think it has improved much.
However I'm sure that my battery stats are off because it tells me it's only been off the charger for 4hrs. So I can put up actual stats tomorrow, if it resets properly tonight.
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So I took it of the charger @ 6am today. It is now 5pm and normally the battery would be dead by now. At the moment it is @ 43%.
My brightness is set to auto and the phone tells me my on screen time is only 53mins. You guys are talking about something like 4hrs on screen with this fix. So I don't think it has improved much.
However I'm sure that my battery stats are off because it tells me it's only been off the charger for 4hrs. So I can put up actual stats tomorrow, if it resets properly tonight.
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I noticed that if you reboot the phone, every counter (unplugged time, screen on time) resets, f*cking up measurements.
Could it possibly be your case ?
Damn, I'm going too scientific
I recommend you this tutorial because ...it works very good and with NOVA our phone is much smoother..
try it an leave a review here !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ0GpvmPm7A&feature=related
I must say, the video is really nice: it's good made, with pleasant speaker and, the best, it delivers really nice tips.
I was always interested, if nova or apex would consume less energy but no one made those test...
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sense uses more battery because the 3d cube animation..but with NOVA u can use simple but very pleasant for eyes the TABLET animation
I think this video might be applicable to the 1.xx roms but since the 2.xx series battery life is terrific, I can get 2+ days on mostly stock settings anyway heelsandtech is/ nice to watch for other reasons...
nice info, useless in most cases but nice to know.
in the end who bought the one-X to keep everything disabled and use a black wallpaper. that's why we've got a companion core and why juice defended exists.
expected it to cover more things to prevent.
app's that stop deep sleep.
situational awareness and such.
wile at work i'm not allowed to take my phone to my workplace so i leave it in a locker, wile in the locker it has no reception but frantically searching for some keeping it out of deep sleep and actively using the CPU draining up to 40% in 2 hours time. enabling airplane mode stops the phone from looking for reception and restores it's normal drain. information like that could be handy to some more so then use a black wallpaper and turn off everything u don't need that very second.
not all things that she says are OK (like the black wallpaper)
but some of them are VERY good to know ..disabling the 3g saves alot of battery.
In fact, she didn`t said, you should use a black wallpaper. She just mentioned, that it consumpts less battery.
The best in this video is, that she reviewed two times what she said, and gave tips to optimise battery. The tutorial is great for begginers, if it would pinned here in forum, 30% of threads wouldn`t be created ("omfg, my battery dies quickly, heeeeeelp")
I don`t really think, sense drains more just because of 3d animation, but because of screwed up code (how you can explain, that app drawer lagged on ics all the time on 4-core beast?). On jb, rosie became fast, but i can imagine, there are still many sh*t inside the code, so it drains more battery. The problem is, sense was ported over 5 times already, it is just time to write it from scratch, lighter and fresher, it would make it more competetive.
I`ll check tommorow in field conditions, how it will perfom with nova prime...
One more statement about the vid: as she mentioned, the video is not only for One x, but for all Android (especially for htcs). after 2.17 update, HOX does perfom well in terms of battery in comparisment to other Androids, but all of them sux hard (except of motorazr maxx and sgNote, but only because of monster battery size). iPhone blows away every android phone in battery life by two times (i could compare iPhone4 with motorola atrix and sgs2 with 4s).
So, all in all, the video is the best among anything I`ve seen before. I barly give props to such videos, but this time I do
10h 33 m on batterry
91% BATTERY LEFT
just disabled 3g and only WIFI on, left the sense launcher, auto brightness(i had it before 40%), disabled notification for facebook, email should refresh when I push the REFRESH button and etc.
installed some apks...talked like for 15 mins with some ppl, played for 10 mins and facebook/whatapp
nemer12 said:
10h 33 m on batterry
91% BATTERY LEFT
just disabled 3g and only WIFI on, left the sense launcher, auto brightness(i had it before 40%), disabled notification for facebook, email should refresh when I push the REFRESH button and etc.
installed some apks...talked like for 15 mins with some ppl, played for 10 mins and facebook/whatapp
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Wow..unbelievable..:good:
Freddy1X said:
Wow..unbelievable..:good:
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So you still around ha?
Thanks for sharing this. I am a newbie to Android so this helped me a lot. Nova launcher is awesome by the way.
Nice, thanks. JellyBean for HOX will drain battery anyway so no real use and I'm too lazy to switch back to ICS.
Black wallpapers only consume less energy on AMOLED/OLED panels. LCD screens use a backlight that is the same intensity regardless of wallpaper colour.
ArmedandDangerous said:
Black wallpapers only consume less energy on AMOLED/OLED panels. LCD screens use a backlight that is the same intensity regardless of wallpaper colour.
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It's not due black or white, it's due to simplicity : cpu needs more power calculating a 1mb picture as a wallpaper, than black wallpaper.
Also, you cannot say this, if you didn't tested it. The lcd3 Technology (in fact it's upgraded ips texhnology) is to complicated go say for sure
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Hi Everyone,
I have two G7s (Canadian version) which I bought from freedom mobile on the day of release (1st June). The problem is my phones are quite different. Their screens are not the same. One has a very cold color temperature and the other has warm color temperature, both at default color settings. The difference is day and night. The phone with cold screen also seems to have very little light bleed at the bottom edge while displaying white color. There seems to be a big difference in battery backup also. We live in a basement with no signals at all so we obviously won't see normal battery backup but, the phone with cold screen seems to manage 4 hrs SOT while the other one barely touches 2 hrs with the same kind of apps (chrome, youtube and whatsapp). The warm screen phone is currently at 83% battery after 10 hrs and only 28 mins of screen usage (checked few Whatsapp messages only from time to time).
I don't know what to do with these phones. Should I take both phones to LG, one for bad battery and other one for back light bleed and cold pinkish screen? Will they replace or repair these? I know the sealed backs are glued, will they repair and re-paste the backs? Sounds painful for new phones. These are my first LG phones, didn't expect so poor quality control from such a big brand
vikrant1982 said:
Their screens are not the same. One has a very cold color temperature and the other has warm color temperature, both at default color settings.
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This is usual for every other vendor as well, every unit from HTC, Sony or Samsung may have vastly different screen color temp from the same model
vikrant1982 said:
phone with cold screen seems to manage 4 hrs SOT while the other one barely touches 2 hrs with the same kind of apps (chrome, youtube and whatsapp)..
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Reset both phones to factory settings, swap sims between them, don't use backup install everything from scratch. And check if battery drain depends on usage patterns and apps set more than from difference in displays
I bet the warm screen one will last 4 hrs and cooler one will drain in 2 hrs. It more depends on usage patterns i.e. screen brightness
vikrant1982 said:
Sounds painful for new phones. These are my first LG phones, didn't expect so poor quality control from such a big brand
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check by my advice before deciding to return them for RMA
Billy Madison said:
check by my advice before deciding to return them for RMA
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Thanks a lot for your reply, will try this and check the results