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Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
I got a P2XL 64BG black to replace my 1st Gen Pixel 128GB and overall I'm happy with my purchase. That's not to say the display is perfect, I do have the blue shift when I look at it sideways and I also don't really like the bland colors. I haven't had any issues with burn-in yet though I did install the 8.1 beta to make sure that the soft keys don't burn in. That said Google increasing the warranty to 2 years, the beta dims the soft keys and Google is promising a software update that will offer a more saturated color scheme.....so between what Google has done and are in process of doing I am not really too concerned about the display issues. Display aside it's a great phone, it doesn't get warm like my Pixel did, it's very fast, smooth, great battery life and the 3 years of OS updates is a great perk. I can't speak for anyone else but I am happy with my purchase and will be keeping my P2XL. The best advice I can offer is what others have said in other threads, go to a store and check one out for yourself then decide.
It rocks. Get it.
i love my phone. im coming from the OG pixel
all the negative reviewers are just dumb imho
I highly recommend it for fun on XDA! But it's your decision...
I love the phone too. Only grip is the fingerprint reader. Finger needs to be dry & clean. Otherwise it won't work well.
Go for it. I upgraded to P2XL from Nexus 6
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kel29738 said:
Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
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I got a P2XL 64BG black to replace my 1st Gen Pixel 128GB and overall I'm happy with my purchase. That's not to say the display is perfect, I do have the blue shift when I look at it sideways and I also don't really like the bland colors. I haven't had any issues with burn-in yet though I did install the 8.1 beta to make sure that the soft keys don't burn in. That said Google increasing the warranty to 2 years, the beta dims the soft keys and Google is promising a software update that will offer a more saturated color scheme.....so between what Google has done and are in process of doing I am not really too concerned about the display issues. Display aside it's a great phone, it doesn't get warm like my Pixel did, it's very fast, smooth, great battery life and the 3 years of OS updates is a great perk. I can't speak for anyone else but I am happy with my purchase and will be keeping my P2XL. The best advice I can offer is what others have said in other threads, go to a store and check one out for yourself then decide.
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I have had mine for nearly two weeks and it is absolutely stunning. Yeah I have a bit of the blue shift (to be expected on most OLED displays) that I don't mind at all, haven't seen much burn-in at all but have moved over to immersive mode via ADB until they release some additional screen fixes/improvements to try and help with it, haven't seen any black smearing whatsoever, etc. In regards to the bland colors, Google announced saturation mode that I imagine will come with the December release? This will be x amount more than the current vibrant mode or whatever it is, I believe it is +10%+, not certain on how much more saturation mode will be, if you dig more vibrant colors and all. I actually prefer, the more true-looking, duller colors but do have vibrant mode turned on (not much of noticeable difference), will play around with "saturation mode" once available but will likely stick with the duller look, saturation mode may be good for video viewing/editing and watching movies/videos.
Like the first poster said, the phone is great, does not get warm, incredibly fast and feels buttery smooth, the battery life is phenomenal, 2 years of warranty and 3 years of OS updates. Could not be happier. I almost got 50 hours out of my phone the other day, probably would have but needed to head out so wanted to throw it on charger, ended up charging it at 7% and about 48 hours off charger, granted I barely had screen on (4 hours) as it was a busy weekend where I didn't need my phone much but all in all very impressed as I have quite possibly every little battery sucker turned on on the phone. I did do some GPSing, lots of music, texting, some snapchatting, lots of Twitter feeds loading, etc. but I'd say mostly light to moderate use, impressed nonetheless.
In the end, it is your choice but I could not be happier with my purchase and would do it all over again, had I known about screen issues upfront.
EDIT: I take back the saturation mode coming in December release.....it is here and available in the November release. I will post screens to a different thread and can provide a link to it later but just thought I'd let you all know.
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Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
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Yes
Disregarding screen issues that don't even bother me personally. The colors I know will be fixed either by Google or of not with root and custom kernele we will be able to fix that. The phone is amazing. If you do paranoid about the screen stop at a Verizon location and look at it even if you don't have verizon, but I don't recommend buying in through Verizon! :highfive:
I've had mine almost 2 weeks and really haven't found any reason to not love it.
I did a comparison of the screen / blue tint HERE if you want to see a bunch of side by side comparisons.
But honestly, like I've told everyone who's asked: get one, keep it a week, use it play with it, run it through your daily use, and then make the call to keep it or return it.
Nearly every aspect of liking a device is subjective to each person's individual likes and tastes.
I'd hate to see you cheat yourself out of a great device because someone else said it sucked, or had this flaw.
Get it. If you hate it, or just can't get over the blue tint, return it and move on
No one knows better than YOU what you'll like.
If you have to ask, then the answer is NO!
The device is only for self-minded individuals.
If you like a good screen then no
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?? My screen is beautiful and I am not experiencing some of the issues others have had. I believe most of the screen issues were related to a few specific batches....they have already came out with an update to fix and help improve many of the lil nuances ppl have been knee jerk complaining about. The screen is fine unless you are the super picky type.
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?? My screen is beautiful and I am not experiencing some of the issues others have had. I believe most of the screen issues were related to a few specific batches....they have already came out with an update to fix and help improve many of the lil nuances ppl have been knee jerk complaining about. The screen is fine unless you are the super picky type.
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False statement. The update only sorted the colours... More saturation. Most of the issues are hardware. It's not just a few batches. You don't have to be picky to not be happy with the issues...at the high price too. It's been proven the LG p oled in most cases is sub par
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False statement. The update only sorted the colours... More saturation. Most of the issues are hardware. It's not just a few batches. You don't have to be picky to not be happy with the issues...at the high price too. It's been proven the LG p oled in most cases is sub par
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Did it? It didn't provide the dimming of the home back and recent buttons to help prevent burn-in? It didn't update brightness configs? It wasn't just colors...
And yes not all batches have the burn-in or even the severe blue tinting issues. I have no signs of burn-in and compared my phone to another P2XL and my blue tinting is hardly visible when my buddies is easily noticed. He does not have any noticeable burn-in either.
I understand that a lot of it is hardware related but there can be improvements on software side to help make the screen last as long as possible as we all know OLEDs decay over time regardless. Is it sub par, it very well may be, but to the average user I dont know if they will notice it being sub par versus superb. I honestly have zero gripes with screen, it is highly objective, but so is the term "good screen".
And, as I mentioned in my post, in the end it will be up to the end user to decide if the screen is bad or not.
I love my Pixel 2 XL. It's the best phone I've ever used and that's with five years of selling phones.
The screen isn't as good as Samsungs. I wish that it was, especially considering the price tag. But the screen is not bad but any means. The blue tint is a design choice. It doesn't bother me. I would like a wider color gamut than just the RGB colorspace and the new "saturated" option just seems to make everything more saturated as opposed to just enabling super saturated colors to be displayed. I find that very disappointing. But that is fixable...
I could go on and nitpick the rest of the phone, but truly the reason to buy this phone above all others is the software. It's buttery smooth. It makes the other companies software look bit silly.
I would recommend the phone. It was otherwise perfect for me if not the screen, and the screen is not that bad especially after the OS update yesterday. I don't see any graininess. I like the natural color more (and now you can change to saturated mode), there is very slight screen burn in or image retention (which I have to look for it by downloading a screen test app and adjust the screen brightness and environment lighting to be able to see, normally I just can't see it). The worst about the screen for me is the blue tint. It was very noticeable when I first switch on the phone, perhaps I specifically look for it after reading all the comments everywhere. After using it for a week, it becomes less and less noticeable. And now in the saturated mode, the blue tint becomes the normal color I am used to, while the normal color when viewed straight on becomes a vibrant and saturated one that everyone else wants.
However, I agree with others that you can go to a verizon store and have a look yourself. And buy and try for a week then decide whether you want to return it.
If google had gone with a samsung panel this would have been the best phone every
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And more RAM, and a headphone jack... I would agree absolutely.
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I have been struggling with the screen on my phone and i want to know if its only me who is having the grainy screen or there are more people having the same issue. Any solid color on the phone appear to be noisy and dirty. People in google are persisting that this is one of the characteristics of the screen and is normal. I cant believe that.
I have had one RMA and the second XL is the same as the first one, first device was shipped from the factory on 31 October and the second one on 31 november.
Should i stop overlooking this issue and live with it or should i push for another RMA?
Compared to my Note 8, the Pixel 2 XL is indeed grainy, however I found it's only noticeable on white/light gray backgrounds, and is hardly noticeable above 35% brightness. My friend's Pixel 2 XL is the same way so I assume this is "normal" for this phone.
The display is a grainy piece of ****. Had 4 phones, all the same, all noticeable even at max brightness on white backgrounds. Makes the screen look like paper. Photos look noisier when viewed on the phone as a result too. If it bothers you, best move onto a new phone.
I've heard the reports of a grainy screen. I've seen 5 Pixel 2 XLs (3 in a Verizon store, mine and a co-workers) and none of them have been grainy.
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I've heard the reports of a grainy screen. I've seen 5 Pixel 2 XLs (3 in a Verizon store, mine and a co-workers) and none of them have been grainy.
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That's a different news. There is also another fact that its not visible if you don't really look for it on my phone but when you see the grain there is no way back. That's when you would say ignorance is a bliss. Still i would like to hear more from others if there is noise (i rather call it noise) on the screen or not.
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Compared to my Note 8, the Pixel 2 XL is indeed grainy, however I found it's only noticeable on white/light gray backgrounds, and is hardly noticeable above 35% brightness. My friend's Pixel 2 XL is the same way so I assume this is "normal" for this phone.
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Thanks for your reply im more interested to look into differences in grain visibility on pixel 2 xl's, because i have read very uneven comparisons for the same device and none is consistent. Some say they see it some say they don't. I can see the grain in all situations with 20% brightness and also with 100%, if there are some cases which phones are grainless (if that's even a word) i would like to report this to google. In your case all of what you have seen are dirty AF. ( They call it dirty screen effect on tv's)
I had 2 Pixel 2 XL over the last 3 weeks. 1st one did not have any noticeable grainy screen. Had to exchange for spontaneous reboots.
The 2nd Pixel I have now suffers from what you are describing, the graininess is notable from minimum to maximum brightness most pronounced on light grey and white backgrounds. In main setting menu, scrolling black text on white background such as websites and YouTube comments. In fact, this is noticeable to me on the 1st setup screen when you power on a new Pixel the 1st time. My looks like snowflake of old CRT screen, or using a matte screen protector. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to capture with any camera I have.
There are couple of long threads here you can search for grainy screen, and you will find few posts on it.
Check out Ars Technica's pictures of the grainy screen.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...view-the-best-android-phone-you-can-buy/2/#h3
Here is Erica Griffin from YouTube on the same issue (6:40):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JjbMT_x6CM&t=503s
Both of my Pixels was manufactured on 13/11/17, and they also have different degree where blue shift becomes apparent, so I think it is a pure luck if the next Pixel's screen you get might not have a grainy screen that you will notice.
At this point, from all my research it seems most screen of the Pixel 2 XL will have some imperfections compared to latest Samsung screens find in iPhone, Galaxy, OnePlus and the smaller Pixel 2. This is due to the immaturity of LG's OLED screen technology and the lack of any batch or individual screen calibration at the factory.
For me, the whole package of smooth UI and fastest security updates means I will overlook the Pixel's screen imperfection compared the my Galaxy S8+. But it does irk me for Google to charge similar price as Galaxy/Note and iPhone, when they know they can not provide a visual experience anywhere close to those phones. Even the OnePlus 5T I compared in store have a much better screen in terms of non-graininess, lack of pronounced blue shift and maximum brightness.
This is a bummer. The grainyness on mine is faint, but definitely there. Kinda wish I hadn't noticed it but in all honesty I kinda wondered why some pics didn't look quite as good on my phone as they do on my wife's pixel 2. I made trade this for a pixel 2 and be done with it.
Don't have this issue. I prefer gray wallpapers and I don't see this issue. I just tried looking at all white wallpapers and didn't see this issue either. Over on Android Central there seem to be a few people with this issue but the vast majority do not seem to have it and/or notice it.
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Don't have this issue. I prefer gray wallpapers and I don't see this issue. I just tried looking at all white wallpapers and didn't see this issue either. Over on Android Central there seem to be a few people with this issue but the vast majority do not seem to have it and/or notice it.
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I think for the majority it may be more about not noticing as opposed to not having the issue.
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I think for the majority it may be more about not noticing as opposed to not having the issue.
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Perhaps. I see it on a couple wallpapers here and there but it's rare - but I believe those are just not high rez enough for this screen. That graininess commonly happens when resolution of the image is lower than that of the screen it's being displayed on as far as I know.
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I think for the majority it may be more about not noticing as opposed to not having the issue.
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That is what i also think is happening because i tried to check how many would notice the grain on my phone this friday. The baits were my friends. And only one noticed it. The rest noticed after i told them what to look for.
It is really a shame for google to think they would be able to compete with pixel 2 xl in such a tough market with thus screen and the price tag. I had high hopes for this phone and i have waited for so long to buy a pixel.
Anyways i received an email from a high level supervisor in google's hardware department saying:
"I am sorry for the inconvenience caused to you due to this. As I can see that the phone is working as intended and there is no issue with the device. In this case, we cannot process a replacement for the device. If you want, we can go ahead and check for the refund options of the device. "
Now i want to see what other phone you guys would think i can replace this with. I cant deal with Samsung's bloatware so no S8 or S8+ or note 8 please.
I notice it on white backgrounds but then I realized it's an overlay and it looks grainy because the screensaver shows through a bit on app drawers and such.
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That is what i also think is happening because i tried to check how many would notice the grain on my phone this friday. The baits were my friends. And only one noticed it. The rest noticed after i told them what to look for.
It is really a shame for google to think they would be able to compete with pixel 2 xl in such a tough market with thus screen and the price tag. I had high hopes for this phone and i have waited for so long to buy a pixel.
Anyways i received an email from a high level supervisor in google's hardware department saying:
"I am sorry for the inconvenience caused to you due to this. As I can see that the phone is working as intended and there is no issue with the device. In this case, we cannot process a replacement for the device. If you want, we can go ahead and check for the refund options of the device. "
Now i want to see what other phone you guys would think i can replace this with. I cant deal with Samsung's bloatware so no S8 or S8+ or note 8 please.
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I'm thinking of getting the Pixel 2, if I do decide to replace my 2 XL. It really is a fantastic phone other than the screen. Right now I'm trying to decide how's much the screen bothers me.
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That's a different news. There is also another fact that its not visible if you don't really look for it on my phone but when you see the grain there is no way back. That's when you would say ignorance is a bliss. Still i would like to hear more from others if there is noise (i rather call it noise) on the screen or not.
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On the 3 in the Verizon store and my co-worker's I didn't have much time to look under lots of different conditions but on my own I've actually tried to see if. Different colored backgrounds, scrolling on white, different brightness levels, etc. Basically any situations people mentioned and still nothing. Besides the minor blue tint at off angle viewing (which I don't do anyways) I think the screen looks fantastic.
I somehow made a decision to go with the original pixel 2 xl (htc u11+) it has almost the same specs but 128gb, 6gb ram same cpu. Great screen.performance should be on par. It should be fine. What do you guys think?
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I somehow made a decision to go with the original pixel 2 xl (htc u11+) it has almost the same specs but 128gb, 6gb ram same cpu. Great screen.performance should be on par. It should be fine. What do you guys think?
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Seems like a great device. Personally I'm going to stick with the Pixel experience if I trade my phone in. I'd rather have a smaller screen with all the benefits of a pixel than something outside of the Pixel line
It is what it is. If you can't live with it, then it's time to move on :d.
Screen is fine to me. Yeah it's not the best. But if you get a decent one it's good. The grain is there but only noticeable if you stick to the screen to your face and look out for it
If you see it in normal use I would say its a faulty screen
Just entered the phone lottery with a request for RMA. Leaving the Verizon store very reassured. The display on their demo model, while it had some blue shift, had no graininess. I couldn't believe how terrible my screen looked compared to the floor model. Fingers crossed I get a good one.
I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that.
Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.)
Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
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Dan
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I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that.
Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.)
Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
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Dan
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I am happy with it.
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Very happy specially the camera
Very happy with mine! Best battery life of any phone I've ever owned and buttery smooth user experience!
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I have had this phone since day one with no issues at all except I took the Verizon deal and got bootloader locked in. The camera is awesome. The pure Android is phenomenal. The screen size and clarity excellent and responsiveness from app to app blows away my work s8 and previous iPhone 8. I've talked a lot of my colleagues into the move to the pixel line due to this pixel 2xl. The fact we get all updates first ensures the longevity of its life cycle and the resale factor is solid.
I love it, screen issues are over blown IMO. With my usage I can get nearly 2 days out of the battery and stock android. Stay away of the 6p, the battery issues are real. I had one for about a year and 3 months and the battery issue reared it's ugly head. Looked for a quality replacement, thought I had found one, took it apart and replaced it myself and was screwed. The original battery was swollen and deformed beyond belief, amazed it had not exploded yet. Replacement batteries for that phone are impossible to find, anything you do find will have issues. The genuine replace I found caused the phone to shut off when using the camera and the phone would not power back on until you plugged it in. Makes camera unusable and phone useless if it shuts off on you and you do not have a cord around. When you get in that situation you find out how few devices really use a usb c at this point ....
Anyways back to your question, Love this phone so far. I also loved my 6p until the battery issue came up and would still be using it if that had not happened. But this is a great upgrade.
I'm very, very, very happy with this astonishing smartphone! :laugh:
Like you, I was a Nexus 6 owner, too, before buying the Pixel 2 XL and, in about 3 years of usage with the N6, in my opinion, after the launch of the new Made by Google family on October 4th, this phone would have been the only real heir and successor of the good old Nexus 6, and my theories have been all confirmed when I've receveid it one month ago
I have a galaxy S8+ and I still use my pixel 2XL as my daily driver. This is my first nexus/pixel device and I could not be happier. The battery life is amazing, their quick charger is far faster than Samsung's. The screen issue, pulled others have said are blown completely out of proportion. I was spazzing out looking to see if my device had "defects". I decided to stay away from the forums and tech blogs I read. And I still to this day have not had any issues with my display. Did I mention the battery life is amazing? The unlockable bootloader is a new thing for me as well. The people that go out of their way to write reviews are more likely to write something if they have a negative experience. I'll lurk the forums to see what's going on. But I usually don't chime in unless I have something of value to contribute. I have the black 128gb. I.would purchase this phone again. I also lol forward to the next generation.
As long as you get one without too much blue tint at angles (screen lottery), then the phone is amazing, especially the camera, pure Android, quick updates, speed.
But I seriously contemplated holding out until next year because my first phone had significantly noticeable blue tint. I traded for a second and the second was much better luckily. Some people have had to trade it in several times before they got a good one
Came from an S7 Edge and din't expect much of an upgrade. I was wrong, this phone feels way quicker, lasts twice as long and the camera is truly astonishingly good.
My only complaint is the lack of a headpone jack and a gamma curve causing crushed blacks at minimum/v.low brightness.
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I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that. Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.) Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
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Skip the N6P and go straight to the Pixel line- you will experience problems with the N6P, guaranteed. I traded in my bootlooping N6P for a stellar 2XL, with zero issues. What you are hearing/reading is a very vocal minority of ppl who aren't satisfied. Many of the claims are simply unfounded. Great phone, extended 2 year warranty through Google, incredible camera, free unlimited 4k photo/video storage. I understand Verizon has a cut rate deal on their bootloader locked phone but (personally) I would pay the extra money to buy directly through Google and then use it on Verizon. My phones need to be bootloader and carrier unlocked. Your needs may be different. Best of luck.
My Pixel 2 XL just arrived yesterday from Google, I followed Max Lee's guide to root it immediately.
I also have the LG V30 through T-Mobile, and I have to say, the Pixel phone feels laggy in areas. I rooted it right away, so can't say what it felt like stock, but compared to my T-Mobile LG V30 which is bone stock, no root, the V30 feels much smoother and very snappy in comparison. I am actually shocked at how the V30 feels like a nicer phone to be honest, the screen is more vibrant on the V30, the smoothness is faster on the V30. Not sure how that's possible compared to a stock Android phone ? I rooted it for AdAway and Titanium Backup.
Opening the Phone app, or Settings or Messages app, I see a slight lag and jerky animation for a split second, which is NOT there whatsoever on my V30.
And not to be rude, but where are the custom ROM's ? I cannot believe there's not one single custom ROM at all yet released for the Pixel2 XL ? Phone's been out 2 months and zero ROM's ? I owned nearly every Nexus phone, and the first two months there'd be a ton of ROM's and development happening. What's going on?
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I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that.
Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.)
Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
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Dan
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We have 3 on family lines and love this phone. Perfect size, very fast, and the clock/date always on display is great.
If you listen to much music, it shows title and artist of most tunes. It's good on battery and charges up fast.
Buy a Google unlockable version if you tinker with your phones, or get a screaming deal at Verizon now if you do not plan to unlock the bootloader.
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Came from an S7 Edge and din't expect much of an upgrade. I was wrong, this phone feels way quicker, lasts twice as long and the camera is truly astonishingly good.
My only complaint is the lack of a headpone jack and a gamma curve causing crushed blacks at minimum/v.low brightness.
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So is blue tooth the only option or is there a adapter to the charging port like the iPhone has?
Thank you all for the feedback
The only complaint that I have with this phone is that I'm too happy with it. Every other phone I've owned has either been locked down or not properly supported, and I've had to undertake the fun projects of unlocking/getting custom roms/ making stuff work/ etc. This phone gives me everything I want. I have no reason to mess with it and if I ever did, unlocking is as easy as "fastboot flashing unlock." That's no fun at all.
I am thrilled with this phone. I knew about the blue shift going in and tested that out at Best BUy and thought it was completely doable. Boy was I wrong, the screen is actually way more than doable. The software is the best Android yet, and I've been on Android since the Nexus 1 phone. Everything works spectacular from the camera to the battery to the buttery smoothness. There are a couple little things I wish worked better but this is by far the closest phone to perfect I've gotten since being an Android user from day 1.
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So is blue tooth the only option or is there a adapter to the charging port like the iPhone has?
Thank you all for the feedback
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It has bluetooth and an adapter like the iphone.
very happy with it
if i wanted a cheaper phone and didn't care about fast/latest/longest SW updates, i would have gotten the OP5T though
Came from a Nexus 6P which was and is an excellent phone but this 2xl is just that little bit better in every department. The camera is utterly stellar, the phone is soo fast plus updates are immediate.. Brilliant brilliant piece of kit:good:
Most excellent device and a perfect upgrade from my Pixel1xl and Nexus6P!
Hi,
Just wanted to see if anyone is thinking of switching to another phone because of the screen issues? I just got mine and it has a lot of grain and a much more noticeable blue tint compared to demo units I saw. It's not something I can un-notice.
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Not switching phones here. I don't notice the grain at all, and I've gotten used to the blue tint at an angle. Looking head-on I don't have an issue.
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Hi,
Just wanted to see if anyone is thinking of switching to another phone because of the screen issues? I just got mine and it has a lot of grain and a much more noticeable blue tint compared to demo units I saw. It's not something I can un-notice.
Thanks!
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Can an exchange mate. The grain shouldn't be noticeable
Nope, so far this phone is fast, great battery life and I actually have no issue with the screen. Looks great to me, no burn in.. No issues with the speakers. Basically nothing that was being reported is affecting me at all. Great Phone just wish I had gone with Google version of the phone instead of the locked Verizon version but development is still pretty non existent at this point so I'm not missing much I suppose.
still loving this phone - literally the only thing i wish it had was faster charging (had a oneplus prior to this), which is already kind of silly given the amazing battery life due to the larger battery
Not a chance of returning. Phone is amazing. Best battery life of any device I've owned. Now that twrp is official, development will follow soon. Cant wait for some pure pixel!
Before 8.1 I had regrets as I was having lots of random reboots but now the phone is perfect for me. No screen issues and great camera and battery life.
Your 1st post... welcome to XDA. Screen is not an issue for most on 8.1!
What devices have you had for comparison? Are you on 8.1?
Love this phone. There is no chance I would swap this phone. Best phone I have ever had.
Love this phone, have it for few days now. Miss some features of the Note 8 though like the awesome screen, game launcher and some camera options but its a compromise for fast updates and blazing fast performance.
I like the phone but I do see it slows down a little. Not as much as Samsung device but I sure feel it.
Just patiently waiting for some good ROMs.
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I am going to test out the U11+. Unfortunately after 8.1 my battery sucks and just using that as an excuse to swap phones. 8.0 battery was excellent, hopefully they fix that asap for those affected.
I am having random reboots on 8.1 so something seems to be weird. Other than that the phone is quite good.
I'm sure I'll get plenty of people pulling out their pitch-forks...
However, I'm seriously considering making the switch to the iPhone X. Now that it's readily available and many of my friends/family have one, I've had the ability to get my hands on it many times now and I really love the overall feel of the phone. When comparing my Pixel 2 XL with the iPhone X side by side, the difference in screen quality is night and day. It really does put the Pixel 2 XL screen to shame. It's not a subtle difference, by any means. Compared to the iPhone X, my 2XL's screen just looks cheap and washed out, even with Saturated mode enabled.
I'm finding that I really love the fluidity of IOS 11, as well. Although, I'm still not a huge fan of the obnoxiously large icons and lack of home screen customization. But I'm starting to think I can look past all that. Sadly, comparing the two phones side by side makes me realize I truly got sub-par quality with my ~$900 2 XL and it is seriously making me consider selling it while resale value is still high and making the switch.
Oh, and coming from the Galaxy S8 & LG V30, I have found that I truly miss the convenience of wireless charging. So it would be nice to go back to having a wireless charger on my night stand and another on the desk in my home office. With that setup I always had a charged phone and never even pulled the OEM USB-C charger from the original packaging. Wireless charging is truly liberating and I would love to have that back.
galaxys said:
Your 1st post... welcome to XDA. Screen is not an issue for most on 8.1!
What devices have you had for comparison? Are you on 8.1?
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THANKS!
With my experience with the screen, I was just thinking of moving down to the Pixel 2. I just wanted to see what other people thought. I just see if I go with an RMA I run the risk of getting an even worse device.
I love the phone for the most part. The screen is meh to me. I'll walk in to an electronics store and compare the screen to some other flagship with oleds like the galaxy S8/S8+, Note 8, Iphone X, the smaller Pixel 2 and even the LG V30. They all tend to have smoother/brighter whites, like they look less blotchy. I've managed to make my screen look quite a bit better with KCAL but even then I still wish it was just a samsung panel instead. I looked at the essential phone on display the other day and goddamn the build quality on that thing is amazing. It takes that whole "fancy" feeling of the Iphone X to a whole new level. Was seriously considering it since its only $500 right now. But at the end of the day I just can't give up the software and quick updates on the Pixel 2XL, even if it means settling with a so so screen.
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THANKS!
With my experience with the screen, I was just thinking of moving down to the Pixel 2. I just wanted to see what other people thought. I just see if I go with an RMA I run the risk of getting an even worse device.
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If you don't mind the size difference and this screen bothers you go for the Pixel 2. The screen is much better on that one.
sn0warmy said:
I'm sure I'll get plenty of people pulling out their pitch-forks...
However, I'm seriously considering making the switch to the iPhone X. Now that it's readily available and many of my friends/family have one, I've had the ability to get my hands on it many times now and I really love the overall feel of the phone. When comparing my Pixel 2 XL with the iPhone X side by side, the difference in screen quality is night and day. It really does put the Pixel 2 XL screen to shame. It's not a subtle difference, by any means. Compared to the iPhone X, my 2XL's screen just looks cheap and washed out, even with Saturated mode enabled.
I'm finding that I really love the fluidity of IOS 11, as well. Although, I'm still not a huge fan of the obnoxiously large icons and lack of home screen customization. But I'm starting to think I can look past all that. Sadly, comparing the two phones side by side makes me realize I truly got sub-par quality with my ~$900 2 XL and it is seriously making me consider selling it while resale value is still high and making the switch.
Oh, and coming from the Galaxy S8 & LG V30, I have found that I truly miss the convenience of wireless charging. So it would be nice to go back to having a wireless charger on my night stand and another on the desk in my home office. With that setup I always had a charged phone and never even pulled the OEM USB-C charger from the original packaging. Wireless charging is truly liberating and I would love to have that back.
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Pitch forks! Nah..it's your money bro, get what you like. I played with my brother in laws iX. It has a great screen, superb build quality, great camera, and is smooth as silk for sure. However....that NOTCH, gesture control, and zero buttons anywhere just isn't my cup of tea. But again, it's your money, you don't owe anyone an explanation, so get what you like, be happy, Merry Christmas, and live long and prosper :good::good:
Love this phone better than mate 9 or Nexus 6p. Or iPhone 7s that I briefly tried. Better battery life and overall experience.
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My screen fares well against my wife's pixel 2 to be honest. The screen could be better but I prefer over the OnePlus 5t screen in some ways
I have read/watched a lot recently about how the Pixel 2 XL's issues have been "fixed" so I thought I would try one for myself. The first screen that comes up when you boot the device is all white, so I had a chance to immediately see if the blue shift was in effect. I am sorry to say it is TERRIBLE. As you can see from the attached image, my Nexus 6P shows a white screen while the Pixel 2 XL screen is quite blue, and the effect is worse in person.
This is very disappointing, and I wanted to let everyone know that this is still an issue. I guess it's not true that Google did something to fix this issue on the hardware/manufacturing side. About 2 hours after delivery, I already have everything boxed up and ready to ship back to Google. The Google chat rep tried to give me the line of "This is how advanced POLED technology works" but I told her to just look at the picture again. My Nexus 6P has almost no blue shift at all even at more extreme angles. Just sitting on the table in front of me should not make the screen turn blue. I use my phone like that a lot, so this would be something I would notice often on the Pixel2 XL
I have owned more Android and Nexus phones than I can count, and I am not trying to hate here. I just want to voice my disappointment and communicate to the community that this issue is still a thing.
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I have read/watched a lot recently about how the Pixel 2 XL's issues have been "fixed" so I thought I would try one for myself. The first screen that comes up when you boot the device is all white, so I had a chance to immediately see if the blue shift was in effect. I am sorry to say it is TERRIBLE. As you can see from the attached image, my Nexus 6P shows a white screen while the Pixel 2 XL screen is quite blue, and the effect is worse in person.
This is very disappointing, and I wanted to let everyone know that this is still an issue. I guess it's not true that Google did something to fix this issue on the hardware/manufacturing side. About 2 hours after delivery, I already have everything boxed up and ready to ship back to Google. The Google chat rep tried to give me the line of "This is how advanced POLED technology works" but I told her to just look at the picture again. My Nexus 6P has almost no blue shift at all even at more extreme angles. Just sitting on the table in front of me should not make the screen turn blue. I use my phone like that a lot, so this would be something I would notice often on the Pixel2 XL
I have owned more Android and Nexus phones than I can count, and I am not trying to hate here. I just want to voice my disappointment and communicate to the community that this issue is still a thing.
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I never heard it was ever fixed just that it is not really a nusense for people wanting all the other benefits vs the 6p I still prefer the colder pixel 2xl white over the warm 6p white but the Sony Xperia xz2 phones have the best I have seen but I have not seen newer Samsung phones that claim to have the best screen
Over the 3 I would still choose the pixel 2xl
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I wish I hadn't bought a pixel... So much regret
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I have read/watched a lot recently about how the Pixel 2 XL's issues have been "fixed" so I thought I would try one for myself. The first screen that comes up when you boot the device is all white, so I had a chance to immediately see if the blue shift was in effect. I am sorry to say it is TERRIBLE. As you can see from the attached image, my Nexus 6P shows a white screen while the Pixel 2 XL screen is quite blue, and the effect is worse in person.
This is very disappointing, and I wanted to let everyone know that this is still an issue. I guess it's not true that Google did something to fix this issue on the hardware/manufacturing side. About 2 hours after delivery, I already have everything boxed up and ready to ship back to Google. The Google chat rep tried to give me the line of "This is how advanced POLED technology works" but I told her to just look at the picture again. My Nexus 6P has almost no blue shift at all even at more extreme angles. Just sitting on the table in front of me should not make the screen turn blue. I use my phone like that a lot, so this would be something I would notice often on the Pixel2 XL
I have owned more Android and Nexus phones than I can count, and I am not trying to hate here. I just want to voice my disappointment and communicate to the community that this issue is still a thing.
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Yeah i notice the same. But honestly in day to day use it isn't bad enough for me to consider another phone. I bought mine in November from VZW so it may be a newer model with this fixed to some extent
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I bought mine in November from VZW so it may be a newer model with this fixed to some extent
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I just got the phone delivered TODAY. I checked the IMEI and the manufacture date is January 9th. That's not terribly recent but still months after release.
I might order another one after I get a refund and see if it is the same, but that would be my last attempt. I should not have to gamble and rely on luck to get a phone that I can use at a slight angle and not have the damn thing turn blue. This is ridiculous.
I never look at my phone in such extreme angles. If anything, your Nexus 6P looks too yellow to me in that angle. It's far from the best but head on it's fine enough for me.
EeZeEpEe said:
I never look at my phone in such extreme angles. If anything, your Nexus 6P looks too yellow to me in that angle. It's far from the best but head on it's fine enough for me.
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I don't think having the phone on the table in front of me like that is an "extreme angle". I put my phone on the table next to my laptop like that all the time, so I would notice this daily. True I would not have a Nexus 6P sitting next to it to compare it to, but now that I already know the screen on this Pixel 2 XL turns blue my brain will keep making the association.
HAZ DISSAPOINT!!!
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I don't think having the phone on the table in front of me like that is an "extreme angle". I put my phone on the table next to my laptop like that all the time, so I would notice this daily. True I would not have a Nexus 6P sitting next to it to compare it to, but now that I already know the screen on this Pixel 2 XL turns blue my brain will keep making the association.
HAZ DISSAPOINT!!!
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Just use the phone. It's not that serious.
I just received my phone this week...I have VERY slight blue showing at off angles, not enough for me to exchange or care. Previous phone was a Moto X Pure....This phone is amazing.
64gb black
Manufacture date Feb 6
Just use the phone dude. It's been released for almost 6 months and you still complaining about such silly issue? If it's that bad for you then simply pick another phone.
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I guess I didnt realize people were still complaining about this. Ive had my P2XL for about 4 months now and this has not been an issue, let alone a deal breaker for me at all. And I too came from the 6P. In fact, I had to get my 6P out a couple of weeks ago, and having them side by side, I cant believe the difference in the screens. The P2XL looks much better to me. Is there some blue in the screen at extreme angles? Yes. Does it detract from the performance of the phone or any of its features? No. The 6P was, in my opinion, the best phone Ive owned of many, many, many Android phones, but the P2XL has easily replaced it as my #1.
Dont bother getting another one. We'll just see another post saying, "A week later and blue shift still not fixed! ZOMG!".
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Just use the phone dude. It's been released for almost 6 months and you still complaining about such silly issue? If it's that bad for you then simply pick another phone.
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1. "Still complaining about..." : How can I "still complain" about a device I just bought?? It just arrived yesterday. I bought one and gave it a chance before commenting.
2. "... such silly issue": It's not a silly issue to me, and for you to say so is kinda rude. Who are you to tell me what is a deal-breaker on a device I spent my own money on?
3. "Simply pick another one"?? What other 6-inch, Google-made, clean-Android device is there? There is no other choice.
You and others can accept the device for what it is if you want. I don't want to spend $700 for a device that has an issue I will notice every day for the next 1-2 years.
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1. "Still complaining about..." : How can I "still complain" about a device I just bought?? It just arrived yesterday. I bought one and gave it a chance before commenting.
2. "... such silly issue": It's not a silly issue to me, and for you to say so is kinda rude. Who are you to tell me what is a deal-breaker on a device I spent my own money on?
3. "Simply pick another one"?? What other 6-inch, Google-made, clean-Android device is there? There is no other choice.
You and others can accept the device for what it is if you want. I don't want to spend $700 for a device that has an issue I will notice every day for the next 1-2 years.
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1. You knew what you were getting into. It's had the shift since day one.
2. You didn't even give the phone a chance. Your pic was still at the setup screen. Seriously, you can get used to it.
3. He didn't say pick another Google phone. There's a good handle of alternatives with better screens if it is that serious to you.
JoeNeckbone said:
I just received my phone this week...I have VERY slight blue showing at off angles, not enough for me to exchange or care. Previous phone was a Moto X Pure....This phone is amazing.
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Manufacture date Feb 6
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This is good info, so thanks!! Your phone was made about a month after mine, so maybe that has an effect. I hope that if I get another one it is like yours and I can keep it.
mrhumble1 said:
This is good info, so thanks!! Your phone was made about a month after mine, so maybe that has an effect. I hope that if I get another one it is like yours and I can keep it.
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I got mine last week from Google, black 64 and it has way less of a shift than my brothers v30. I would say mine totally shifts blue at about 45 degrees from dead on, his does almost right away. His phone is 3 months old now. Not sure of his build date. Mine was December '17
In my experience oled panels always experience some shifting. Even the iPhone x I've handled.
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mrhumble1 said:
I have read/watched a lot recently about how the Pixel 2 XL's issues have been "fixed" so I thought I would try one for myself. The first screen that comes up when you boot the device is all white, so I had a chance to immediately see if the blue shift was in effect. I am sorry to say it is TERRIBLE. As you can see from the attached image, my Nexus 6P shows a white screen while the Pixel 2 XL screen is quite blue, and the effect is worse in person.
This is very disappointing, and I wanted to let everyone know that this is still an issue. I guess it's not true that Google did something to fix this issue on the hardware/manufacturing side. About 2 hours after delivery, I already have everything boxed up and ready to ship back to Google. The Google chat rep tried to give me the line of "This is how advanced POLED technology works" but I told her to just look at the picture again. My Nexus 6P has almost no blue shift at all even at more extreme angles. Just sitting on the table in front of me should not make the screen turn blue. I use my phone like that a lot, so this would be something I would notice often on the Pixel2 XL
I have owned more Android and Nexus phones than I can count, and I am not trying to hate here. I just want to voice my disappointment and communicate to the community that this issue is still a thing.
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Looking at your picture the Pixel 2 XL looks better. Sure, it looks to have a very cool color temperature but it's also next to a Nexus 6P which is too warm(reddish). The Pixel 2 XL in that picture is much closer to neutral white. Also that's a pretty extreme angle. Mine is about the same at that angle and at normal viewing angles it looks great. It certainly isn't the BEST display I've seen in my entire life in terms of color temperature but it is good. Certainly better than the Nexus 5X I had before which was too cool even at direct viewing and better than the Nexus 6P which is too warm.
mrhumble1 said:
1. "Still complaining about..." : How can I "still complain" about a device I just bought?? It just arrived yesterday. I bought one and gave it a chance before commenting.
2. "... such silly issue": It's not a silly issue to me, and for you to say so is kinda rude. Who are you to tell me what is a deal-breaker on a device I spent my own money on?
3. "Simply pick another one"?? What other 6-inch, Google-made, clean-Android device is there? There is no other choice.
You and others can accept the device for what it is if you want. I don't want to spend $700 for a device that has an issue I will notice every day for the next 1-2 years.
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You will get a colour shift on almost any AMOLED device you can purchase. I have two Galaxy Note 8 phones sitting next to me, and they both shift red and pink off angle. So would you rather have a slightly cool shift when you look at your phone off angle? or a red / pink hue?
The S8+ shifts as does the S9+.
I notice it, but it does not bother me, as it is NOT an issue.
Use it for a week or two, don't obsess over it, use the display head on like 99% of people do, and you will forget it soon enough.
Cooler displays are much better than the reddish or yellowish displays of iphones or samsungs.
Jonathan-H said:
You will get a colour shift on almost any AMOLED device you can purchase.
Use it for a week or two, don't obsess over it, use the display head on like 99% of people do, and you will forget it soon enough.
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Thank you very much for telling me how to use my device, that I paid for and own. It never would occur to me to NOT use the device the way I want to, but to DO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO REGARDLESS OF WHAT I WANT. That makes so much sense I don't know why it never occurred to me. /s
As for "other screens have color shift too", that's irrelevant. Yes, my Nexus 6P has some, but it's slight and only at really crazy angles. That's why I posted a picture of the two side-by-side. I had both of them in my hands, and compared them myself. One (6P) had a very acceptable level of shift, the other (Pixel 2 XL) was not acceptable.
I guess the good news for me is that so many of you have phones that don't show much blue shift. That means that if I order another one, I have a decent chance to get one that's better.
My Pixel 2 XL has the issue but I never notice it. I look at my phone normally, not on a weird angle that means I cannot see the top right corner. That's the bit I don't get, you have to twist the viewing angle to a position that makes using the screen useless anyway and then rant it's got a blue tint. You can't see the text properly anyway so why do you want to use your phone at the angle? Lots of screens have tints if you view them at the WRONG angle.
How's this for an issue?:
I've had my 2 xl for about 2 weeks. It's a refurb from Amazon deal.of the day.
The display generally has the colder blue whites,which I like, that my preference. But, sometimes while using it, the white background on the screen will suddenly switch to this warm-ish white, seems pinkish to me. I'll try to use my phone off axis when it does that because I prefer the cold blue whites (like my essential phones display, - I LOVE that display)
Anyone else experiencing anything like this? I googled it and am not seeing anything - other people comaining about blue shift. (I'd like it to have 'blue shift' all the time lol)
FWIW: all the refurbs Amazon sold seem to be VZW branded, and I'm on Jan 05 2019 SW update. (Oh, and of course I'm pissed the refurbs are VZW, didn't know until it arrived, was so looking forward to unlocked bootloader and root and joining custom ROM community again.