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I know that there is a lot of similar threads, but I read it and still don't know what should I do.
Is is worth to move? I believe that there is a lot of people which moved from N5 to N5X.
In daily using is there any difference in smooth and performance?
Big plus for mi is Android N
To be honest with you, it's even a downgrade.
I moved from N5 to Xiaomi Mi4C and then to N5X (because I love to tinker around) and if the screen on my old Nexus 5 wouldn't be broken, I would go back to the Nexus 5 without hesitating and I would look forward to it.
1. The camera is utterly crap if you want to make close-up pictures, otherwise it's just okay.
2. The cpu is janky, it lags here and there even with encryption disabled and even with custom kernel and custom roms. I would often like to smash the phone against the wall because it takes so long to do basic tasks...
3. The cpu, it gets so hot I could burn my skin with it from time to time (hotspot + using your phone? Burn your fingers...). Even browsing and listening to music seems to stress the cpu that much that it heats up extremely. Custom kernel and custom rom do indeed improve it a bit, but the problem is still there and noticeable
4. The sound is really quiet/silent and as soon as you turn the volume up it gets distorted. Listening to music with just the phones speakers is a huge pain.
5. The battery life is miserable, okay compared to the N5 it's at least not worse and it will get better with Android N as I already tested out for a week.
Honestly, keep your N5 and wait until they release the new ones, but don't buy the N5X. You will be so disappointed by its performance.
You can get Android N on the N5 without any big problems via custom rom which will be probably released shortly after the final Android N version is released . It's no problem to flash it to the N5 and you won't loose warranty (which I guess is already over)
PS; Nobody has to tell me my N5X may be defective, the 3 workmates who bought the N5X as well are complaining constantly about those points as well.
creambyemute said:
2. The cpu is janky, it lags here and there even with encryption disabled and even with custom kernel and custom roms. I would often like to smash the phone against the wall because it takes so long to do basic tasks...
3. The cpu, it gets so hot I could burn my skin with it from time to time (hotspot + using your phone? Burn your fingers...). Even browsing and listening to music seems to stress the cpu that much that it heats up extremely. Custom kernel and custom rom do indeed improve it a bit, but the problem is still there and noticeable
PS; Nobody has to tell me my N5X may be defective, the 3 workmates who bought the N5X as well are complaining constantly about those points as well.
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Definitely agree on most of your points as a 5x owner. But i never had problems with my cpu like you do. My phone is heavily filled with apps and stuff and it doesn't lag at all. Sometimes it's a bit jerky here and there but that's it. And on point 3. nearly all the smartphones have that issue it's the build material that makes it feel so hot. if you take for example a samsung phone with the same cpu but their build quality with the glass and metal it will feel far less hot. but yeah wait for the new nexus!
It's a noticeable upgrade in just about every way from a N5 and worth the upgrade IMO.
After 8 months I've seen no performance issues with my 5x and the graphics performance (gaming) is 2x higher especially over long gaming runs as the graphical performance doesn't hit rock bottom like it did with the N5 after warming up.
The camera is top notch. Same camera as the Nexus 6p, you'll see only praise for it around the internet. No other phone camera comes close at this price range.
Heat generation is actually a huge improvement over the N5. The N5 could see skin temperatures up to 10C higher than the 5x, so if people think their 5x gets hot then they haven't ever used a N5. Here's an exert from one of the few review sites that tests for thermals, skin temperature specifically.
With idle temperatures of just over 25 °C, the Nexus 5X hardly heats up noticeably in idle mode. The handset is also unexpectedly cool under load despite the relatively strong SoC. The hottest spot measured reaches just 37.4 °C here - other premium smartphones often surpass 40 °C. The review sample can even shine with the lowest rates compared with its rivals.
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http://www.notebookcheck.net/Google-Nexus-5X-Smartphone-Review.155885.0.html
Size difference, the bigger screen is nice and even noticeable but the 5x is a lot taller than it needs to be so the N5 would win in total size and screen to bezel ratio.
External speaker. It sounds about the same but it gets 1 or 2 steps louder and facing forward is an improvement.
Back cover discolouration. My carbon black seems to get permanent smudges that can be seen under certain lighting conditions.
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Sometimes it's a bit jerky here and there but that's it. And on point 3. nearly all the smartphones have that issue it's the build material that makes it feel so hot.
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You may call that jerky, we call it laggy, janky whatever. But you do agree it's not as fluid as the N5? Or could you even ever compare the N5 to the N5X? It is by no means fluid and for me not an acceptable performance. My N5 runs rounds around the N5X when it's not about gaming. And exactly that is my point. Why is the N5 in basic tasks (Menu, browsing, scrolling, animations) faster than the N5X? I didn't expect a downgrade in everyday task performance and it hit me hard in the disappointment section.
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It's a noticeable upgrade in just about every way from a N5 and worth the upgrade IMO.
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It's just an upgrade if you are constantly playing games (performance wise). In the most basic tasks the N5 crushes the N5X performance. But the thread starter can decide that himself if he buys the N5X and I would really like to hear his opinion then after comparing the two devices
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The camera is top notch. Same camera as the Nexus 6p, you'll see only praise for it around the internet. No other phone camera comes close at this price range.
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Are you kidding? I agree the camera is better than the one found in N5 but my Mi4C took way better pictures than the N5X and several levels better when capturing some close distance shots (really close distance) and you know what? The Mi4C is cheaper.
I don't want to sound like the camera is bad in every aspect, but top notch is fanboy talk...
Actually whenever I wanted to take a close distance picture with an N5X I always ended up with the picture being blurred to the point I couldn't even recognize what should be on the picture :crying:.
Some people also say the Nexus 9 is a very good tablet whereas my mate and I who bought the devices together would call it the worst nexus product until now
Now let me mention some things I like about the N5X because I don't totally hate the device and I'm just so disappointed that the performance is worse than on the N5 in almost every situation.
- Screen: I already got several compliments that the screen is well calibrated and looks pretty good.
- USB C: It's positive as well as negative. I like the new connector, but all of my friends who don't have it hate it because they can't use my charger nor my cable
- Front facing speakers (just don't turn the volume up too much, otherwise the sound gets ****ty)
- Quick Charging: Absolutely love that! Helped me out in many situations where I just needed like 20-30% more charge to get through the day or the night.
- Screen gets activated when you lift the phone from the desk or out of your pocket, pretty convenient
- You'll maybe be able to access the notification tray and quick settings panel with the fingerprint scanner in Android N
So it is really worse performance N5X than N5 in daily using?
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atomic339 said:
So it is really worse performance N5X than N5 in daily using?
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I don't know if I would go that far. I feel like with my N5, I had to choose between a smooth experience or battery life. With the N5X it that isn't so much the case. That being said, there are times where this phone will lag on even the most simplest of tasks with no explanation or reason. It's beyond frustrating. At this point you're better off waiting for the new Nexus phones to come out and snagging one of those instead.
I would (am) wait(ing). I wouldn't even replace my N5, but it's showing problems with modem and gps. It's been suggested that our N5X is defective because of the jerky/lagging touch responsiveness. When it's placed next to the N5, the color calibration seems off. N5 has much whiter whites and just appears crisper than what I see on the 5X. The 5X belongs to hubby who doesn't care about the off-white tint, but he really dislikes the fact that touches have to be repeated even 3 times before they respond. I would try a custom kernel, but he doesn't want me messing with his phone. He doesn't use his phone for much. If the new phones don't meet my needs/wants, I'll get a 6P. It's a little big but haven't seen any other problems with the one we have.
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I would (am) wait(ing). I wouldn't even replace my N5, but it's showing problems with modem and gps. It's been suggested that our N5X is defective because of the jerky/lagging touch responsiveness. When it's placed next to the N5, the color calibration seems off. N5 has much whiter whites and just appears crisper than what I see on the 5X. The 5X belongs to hubby who doesn't care about the off-white tint, but he really dislikes the fact that touches have to be repeated even 3 times before they respond. I would try a custom kernel, but he doesn't want me messing with his phone. He doesn't use his phone for much. If the new phones don't meet my needs/wants, I'll get a 6P. It's a little big but haven't seen any other problems with the one we have.
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What you call "whiter white" is blue white and actually shows a bad calibration, just saying. If you prefer such color pallete then better go for samsung. Also there is an option in dev settings to "fix" it, though i have it disabled. No difference (unless you compare) in the day, while the blue white hurts my eyes in the night
Back to topic, stock 5x is a bit laggy but EX kernel with ghostpepper fixed that for me.
Battery is ok, similar to my G2 and people did not whine about that phone so i dont know why everyone is pissed with 5x
If someone (creambyemute ) believes that the camera is bad, then should get a eye surgery appointment soon. Just kidding, but you should tap your screen to focus at that distance/objec. If the blur persists just focus on something else and then back at your target
5x has great well-light photos, good low light ones, though no stabilizer so videos are shaky
All that being said new nexus phones should not be too far, so you might as well wait for them
For all the people complaining about daily performance... Just flash PA rom. Done. Phone is smooth now.
atomic339 said:
Hi
I know that there is a lot of similar threads, but I read it and still don't know what should I do.
Is is worth to move? I believe that there is a lot of people which moved from N5 to N5X.
In daily using is there any difference in smooth and performance?
Big plus for mi is Android N
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With the new Nexus phones coming out soon, I wouldn't upgrade to the 5X if I were you. I got my 5X when it first came out and I had a Nexus 5 before.
There are some improvements but nothing major despite a 2-yr gap. Better camera, better battery, better screen, but laggy and slow sometimes. I was kind of disappointed when I first got my 5X.
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You've waited this long with the N5, what's another 2 months for the next Nexus phones? Unless you can get some amazing deal and don't mind having 1 year old hardware, I suggest waiting.
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You've waited this long with the N5, what's another 2 months for the next Nexus phones? Unless you can get some amazing deal and don't mind having 1 year old hardware, I suggest waiting.
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agreed
i suggested waiting too as the new nexus build quality is definitly going to be better then the 5X build quality. HTC is gonna make it this time according to various sources.
Giorgos Chatziioannou said:
What you call "whiter white" is blue white and actually shows a bad calibration, just saying. If you prefer such color pallete then better go for samsung. Also there is an option in dev settings to "fix" it, though i have it disabled. No difference (unless you compare) in the day, while the blue white hurts my eyes in the night
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I know all the commentary about the color palette/calibration/preference/true colors arguments which makes it a little difficult to determine if, in fact, one actually has a defective screen (as I had on my first N7 FLO which looked worse than my then current N7). I prefer the color tones on my N5. However, I did change to cool temperature option on the 5x, and I think it's more to my preference. I do like the amoled display on the 6P and think the samoled's are all right. It was big change from Galaxy Nexus to N4. Ultimately, it's all about the point you bring up (blue white hurts my eyes in the night). No two people see anything exactly the same way so all we can do is get what works for us. Actually, I prefer the displays on the ios devices, that and battery life, but that's it.
The pictures were taken with the N9 which no one can argue has a great camera; however, it shows the differences. One can also see that the 5x presents sharper images on the screen. I will say that I thought the 5 showed clearer text than the pics show. I'm sure someone (anyone) could have taken betters shots. The left pic is warmer display; the right is cooler.
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I know all the commentary about the color palette/calibration/preference/true colors arguments which makes it a little difficult to determine if, in fact, one actually has a defective screen (as I had on my first N7 FLO which looked worse than my then current N7). I prefer the color tones on my N5. However, I did change to cool temperature option on the 5x, and I think it's more to my preference. I do like the amoled display on the 6P and think the samoled's are all right. It was big change from Galaxy Nexus to N4. Ultimately, it's all about the point you bring up (blue white hurts my eyes in the night). No two people see anything exactly the same way so all we can do is get what works for us. Actually, I prefer the displays on the ios devices, that and battery life, but that's it.
The pictures were taken with the N9 which no one can argue has a great camera; however, it shows the differences. One can also see that the 5x presents sharper images on the screen. I will say that I thought the 5 showed clearer text than the pics show. I'm sure someone (anyone) could have taken betters shots. The left pic is warmer display; the right is cooler.
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Thus why i said that sammy phones are probably more in your alley, they also have a neutral color option if you feel like it too.
My friends like samsung so i have seen few of their phones and amoled is not really my cup, stunning colors but you can take picture of a bulb light room and it will be chock full of orange while the same picture on other phones looks white/yellow.
I heard that the s7 has not such aggressive saturation, but until i can meet with my friend to check his s7 edge i cant say for sure. I will update when that happens if you want
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You may call that jerky, we call it laggy, janky whatever. But you do agree it's not as fluid as the N5? Or could you even ever compare the N5 to the N5X? It is by no means fluid and for me not an acceptable performance. My N5 runs rounds around the N5X when it's not about gaming. And exactly that is my point. Why is the N5 in basic tasks (Menu, browsing, scrolling, animations) faster than the N5X? I didn't expect a downgrade in everyday task performance and it hit me hard in the disappointment section.
It's just an upgrade if you are constantly playing games (performance wise). In the most basic tasks the N5 crushes the N5X performance. But the thread starter can decide that himself if he buys the N5X and I would really like to hear his opinion then after comparing the two devices
Are you kidding? I agree the camera is better than the one found in N5 but my Mi4C took way better pictures than the N5X and several levels better when capturing some close distance shots (really close distance) and you know what? The Mi4C is cheaper.
I don't want to sound like the camera is bad in every aspect, but top notch is fanboy talk...
Actually whenever I wanted to take a close distance picture with an N5X I always ended up with the picture being blurred to the point I couldn't even recognize what should be on the picture :crying:.
Some people also say the Nexus 9 is a very good tablet whereas my mate and I who bought the devices together would call it the worst nexus product until now
Now let me mention some things I like about the N5X because I don't totally hate the device and I'm just so disappointed that the performance is worse than on the N5 in almost every situation.
- Screen: I already got several compliments that the screen is well calibrated and looks pretty good.
- USB C: It's positive as well as negative. I like the new connector, but all of my friends who don't have it hate it because they can't use my charger nor my cable
- Front facing speakers (just don't turn the volume up too much, otherwise the sound gets ****ty)
- Quick Charging: Absolutely love that! Helped me out in many situations where I just needed like 20-30% more charge to get through the day or the night.
- Screen gets activated when you lift the phone from the desk or out of your pocket, pretty convenient
- You'll maybe be able to access the notification tray and quick settings panel with the fingerprint scanner in Android N
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I've had zero performance issues with my 5x since I bought it 9 months ago. There hasn't been a single instance where I've found it to be slower than my N5, and multiple instances of it being faster such as connection speeds, gaming performance and loading the camera. Storage speeds are also much faster than the N5 even with encryption enabled on the 5x and disabled on the N5 (less secure).
The camera on the 6p and 5x (same camera) was well regarded as one of the best cell phone cameras until this years devices started rolling out. Details with HDR+ are insane, low light performance is out of this world, and the pictures come out fast and snappy with the camera loaded and capturing scenes within 2-3 seconds from being locked. Most importantly: everything you take a picture of looks like it does in real life with your eyes.
It can't be a fanboy comment when every review of the camera on the 5x and 6p agrees: it is absolutely top notch.
It sucks that you haven't experience the 5x to its fullest, I'm not sure if you have a defective 5x or possibly are causing the issues with your 3rd party software but your experience is not typical.
My friend has recently acquired a Nexus 5x about 2 weeks ago and so far has had the same experience myself. Snappy, smooth, and the best phone at this price range by a large margin.
atomic339 said:
So it is really worse performance N5X than N5 in daily using?
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Not in my experience and I've owned the 5x since launch day and a N5 since its launch day as well.
I made the swap a month ago when Carphone Warehouse in the UK were clearing stock for £130 and don't regret it at all. Feels exactly like you would expect a two year newer N5 to feel, nothing earth shattering, just slicker all round. Put the Nougat DP5 straight on it which obviously helps but only downside for me is no wireless charging as mine lived on a wireless deskstand all day at the office but the quick charging and better battery life make up for it... just have to remember to plug it in for a bit in the evening.
Wasn't keen on how light it is but I always use a case and once that was on all was good. Solid recommendation for the Supcase if you get one, cheap, top quality and once you slit the buttons all is good.
I wouldn't have been looking if it wasn't so cheap or the N5 battery was going but very glad I did and have a got a much more up to date phone for a lot less than half the price of one of the new Nexi when they come out. I stuck a new battery in the N5 and now my youngest is even happier than I am.
Regarding the N5X camera discussion here....
Macro pictures are not important to me. I don't need close-up pictures.
In normal use, the camera is spectacular. I recently went on a trip to Italy with a real camera and, honestly, I didn't even use it. The N5X camera has a wide scope, high quality, and great color reproduction. It's the same camera as that on the N6P, same exact camera; the only difference is not EIS but that can be fixed if rooted (it's disabled by default to make N6P more premium).
Check out the picture thread for examples of users' photos.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/excellent-camera-t3230797
Sure, it's no Samsung Galaxy 7, but few phones can compare to the 7's camera.
And who cares about macro?
One more thing about N5 camera vs N5X camera...
I had the N5 previously. If there was ONE thing I hated about the N5 is that pictures took 2-5 seconds to get taken after you press the button.
While on the 5X, it is practically instantaneous.
Last thing...
Come on, get the new Nexus which will launch in about 1-2 months.
This phone is great. I'm on N DP5 and 0 lag, great battery and performance.
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Only had the phone 3 days, but it has the most cohesive feel of all the Android devices I've owned, not as featureless as my Nexus 7, not over the top like my older HTC/Samsung devices. Switched to Nova Launcher, then switched back to Pixel launcher because it felt a better fit.
I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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I actually very much love this phone, I was expecting a lot to be hype, yet battery is good, cameras awesome see attached pics, and overall it's probably the best phone I owned in awhile, I was using an iPhone 5s, missed mu Android,. Operating system is fast and responsive and split screen multitasking is great especially with YouTube and chrome open
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I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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Im sorry but the 6P does not have a better camera. Coming from a 6P as well i agree with some of your viewpoints but the camera isn't a valid arguement. While the 6P camera is good its not at the level of the pixel.
I've used android phones, I've used iPhones. If this is what Google has to offer with its first Pixel phone I'm excited for Pixel 2 already. The camera rocks, love the quality of photos, the UI is intuitive and fast. Opening apps feels instant for me at least no delay. Have yet to see the device slow down. Almost elliminates the need to shy away from stock one can be hopeful that Verizon doesn't end up blocking depixel8 otherwise I may end up unlocking the bootloader if I see they do.
I use an Android and iPhone handset concurrently for work-related reasons. The Pixel is great, and compares very favorably with the iPhone.
Battery: I used to run all intensive apps like Waze and streaming audio through the iPhone, now I don't fear running them on the Android.
App switching: You know when you're chatting with someone and you look something up to further your discussion along? The Overview button double-tap for switching back and forth is so great.
Fingerprint reader: Is faster than the iPhone 6.
You can probably get a nearly identical experience with a Xiaomi or Oneplus phone without spending $650+. I remember even seeing one of the new Xiaomi flagships featuring the same camera sensor. But I hoped that the Pixel being was it is, it'll be a more bug-free experience.
I bought this phone expecting to not like it and sell it in a few weeks. It doesn't have an sd card slot or a removable battery. That's a pretty big deal to me. But I got the 128gb and started allowing Google to back up my pics. I can go 16 hours on the battery with 4 hours SOT. That's exponentially better than my MXP or pretty much any other phone I've used. I have grandfathered unlimited on Verizon so my choices are slim if I want root. Everything about this phone works very well. It's super quick and feels good in the hand. Overall, I'm extremely pleased with it.
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I adore this phone. By far my favorite phone I've owned (S3, EVO 4G, EVO 4G LTE, HTC M8, Galaxy Note 5, Samsung Fireball, LG V20, LG V10). The experience has been unparalleled for me.
It's a great phone, but not worth the price tag that comes with it.
I would consider this to be the "photographer's phone." It has a great camera and amazing EIS. As well as unlimited original photo hosting on Google Photos.
Did I mention it has UNLIMITED, ORIGINAL photo hosting on Google Photos?
Don't get me wrong, there could be better cameras out there, but you just can't beat that perk of having a Pixel.
As a long time samsung owner, this device is a breath of fresh air. If it were more water resistant, and had wireless charging, it'd be a perfect 10.
what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods
So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
JoeHockey said:
So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.
Thanks for the tip, I'll have to look into Tasker.
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.
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Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.
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So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.
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Battery life is much better than comparable Androids devices. I've never had such great battery life, honestly. Interestingly, I had an M8 for a year and did NOT get close to 3 days (not even 2). Coming from an LG V20, V10, Note 5 and Note 7 (and watching my wife's S7), this battery life is tremendous. I literally don't ever pay attention to battery anymore. I go to bed with 30-50% usually. I just charge overnight (why not?) to be safe.
But yes, the sound of M8 was unparalleled. Why they quit on that feature I'll never understand.
Overall I am pretty happy with the Pixel. I don't like large phones so i am glad Google offered a smaller version. I used to have the Nexus 5x (still do) but the Pixel has been lag free. Anyone who has been using Google's devices long enough knows the thing starts to lag and the only thing to get rid of it is to totally format every so often. This has been running great so far so I am happy.
One thing I hope Google does not do is eventually become like Samsung or Apple where they totally lock down the device. The price point was already bad enough, but if the attempt to become mainstream to the point where the phone cannot be customized I will be very unhappy.
If they want to sell their product as "Pure Android", that should include customization outside of their OWN OS. Locking things down is no better than Apple or Samsung.
After reading thread after thread about this phone on this forum, I almost get the sense that people don't like it as much as they had hoped they would. The forum seems chock full of complaining (I know, that's normal), defect threads galore, and generally unpleasant comments (camera sucks, freezing in software, etc.). As someone waiting for theirs to arrive, it's not the best feeling to read all this. SO! I was wondering if you all would share your overall feelings on the phone, regardless of how long you've owned it.
Best phone you've ever owned?
Great but still have phone jealousy?
Underwhelming?
Bad experience?
I'm coming from an LG V20 and phone jealousy lead to me purchasing this. I hope I no longer am jealous of anyone's phone.
Well I am using the phone for 8-9 days now and my impression is positive. My gripes are two mainly, one there is no Xposed for 7.1.1, so I can't use Gravity Box and disable the on screen buttons, and secondly the design overall, but I knew that before buying. The huge bezels I could never like, power and volume buttons at same side, which I don't like, the back glass part, no comments about, wish I could break it myself LOL. But that's it. Other than these I love the phone. Of course the best Android I ever owned. The smoothness all over the software is incredible. But yes, yesterday I did notice a very bad stuttering while I was scrolling down my WhatsApp contacts list, something to do with cache I suppose, not sure, but it did happen, and that's not the only place either, I noticed frame drops on other apps too, can't remember though, nothing which has made me think to sell off the phone or anything but definitely there. But the incredible overall smoothness, excellent camera, considering a non-Samsung a very good display, fantastic call quality, very good loudspeaker (yeah its good regardless of what reviews say), I really don't know what more could I have expected, other than a compact design anyway.
Go for it. I am running the phone naked without a case for now and no problem yet, no colour chipping on the frame or anything, no scratches on the back glass part either but about time I put on a case.
I had no intentions of leaving my Nexus 6p with the bigger screen and the dual front facing speakers. After reading reviews on the Pixel XL, and hearing how good the performance and camera were, I decided to make the switch. The screen size difference is minimal, and I like that the XL isn't quite as wide as the 6p. I do miss the Dual speakers, but with WETA volume isn't a problem. The everyday performance of the Pixel is superior to the 6p. Everything runs smoothly and fluidly. The camera is excellent. I've never seen pictures so good from a phone. It seems to me that it's just as good as any point and shoot camera. Now onto development. Granted, there isn't a whole lot yet, but I'm sure the dam is going to burst soon. The dual slots open up a whole new world to us flashaholics, and I'm excited to see where it leads. Overall, I'm glad I got the Pixel, and I look forward for things to come.
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I had no intentions of leaving my Nexus 6p with the bigger screen and the dual front facing speakers. After reading reviews on the Pixel XL, and hearing how good the performance and camera were, I decided to make the switch. The screen size difference is minimal, and I like that the XL isn't quite as wide as the 6p. I do miss the Dual speakers, but with WETA volume isn't a problem. The everyday performance of the Pixel is superior to the 6p. Everything runs smoothly and fluidly. The camera is excellent. I've never seen pictures so good from a phone. It seems to me that it's just as good as any point and shoot camera. Now onto development. Granted, there isn't a whole lot yet, but I'm sure the dam is going to burst soon. The dual slots open up a whole new world to us flashaholics, and I'm excited to see where it leads. Overall, I'm glad I got the Pixel, and I look forward for things to come.
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You said it. This dual slot is a game changer. I just love tinkering with these slots, trying to get the best combination of ROM, kernel, and settings in each slot to make this battery go as far as it can. That's my goal in life, to make a damn cell phone last 2.5 days like my Sony Z3 used to.
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Well I am using the phone for 8-9 days now and my impression is positive. My gripes are two mainly, one there is no Xposed for 7.1.1, so I can't use Gravity Box and disable the on screen buttons, and secondly the design overall, but I knew that before buying. The huge bezels I could never like, power and volume buttons at same side, which I don't like, the back glass part, no comments about, wish I could break it myself LOL. But that's it. Other than these I love the phone. Of course the best Android I ever owned. The smoothness all over the software is incredible. But yes, yesterday I did notice a very bad stuttering while I was scrolling down my WhatsApp contacts list, something to do with cache I suppose, not sure, but it did happen, and that's not the only place either, I noticed frame drops on other apps too, can't remember though, nothing which has made me think to sell off the phone or anything but definitely there. But the incredible overall smoothness, excellent camera, considering a non-Samsung a very good display, fantastic call quality, very good loudspeaker (yeah its good regardless of what reviews say), I really don't know what more could I have expected, other than a compact design anyway.
Go for it. I am running the phone naked without a case for now and no problem yet, no colour chipping on the frame or anything, no scratches on the back glass part either but about time I put on a case.
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Thanks for the detailed response! I'm really excited to see what this thing can do, in terms of the powerful software. I always long for the smoothest experience, cutting edge software, and best camera I can get. That's what drew me to this phone. Plus I really love Google products, so this seemed ideal. Really happy to hear your point about the speaker - I've heard so many negatives!
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I had no intentions of leaving my Nexus 6p with the bigger screen and the dual front facing speakers. After reading reviews on the Pixel XL, and hearing how good the performance and camera were, I decided to make the switch. The screen size difference is minimal, and I like that the XL isn't quite as wide as the 6p. I do miss the Dual speakers, but with WETA volume isn't a problem. The everyday performance of the Pixel is superior to the 6p. Everything runs smoothly and fluidly. The camera is excellent. I've never seen pictures so good from a phone. It seems to me that it's just as good as any point and shoot camera. Now onto development. Granted, there isn't a whole lot yet, but I'm sure the dam is going to burst soon. The dual slots open up a whole new world to us flashaholics, and I'm excited to see where it leads. Overall, I'm glad I got the Pixel, and I look forward for things to come.
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Do you happen to have moving targets you take photos of? I have two little kids and I cannot get good shots indoors with my LG V20. Really hoping this one is better. My wife's S7 takes much better pictures. I'm hoping this is as good as, or better, than that.
I don't know anything about these dual slots. I'm going to have to look into this! Is there a thread about this so I can read up on it?
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After reading thread after thread about this phone on this forum, I almost get the sense that people don't like it as much as they had hoped they would. The forum seems chock full of complaining (I know, that's normal), defect threads galore, and generally unpleasant comments (camera sucks, freezing in software, etc.). As someone waiting for theirs to arrive, it's not the best feeling to read all this. SO! I was wondering if you all would share your overall feelings on the phone, regardless of how long you've owned it.
Best phone you've ever owned?
Great but still have phone jealousy?
Underwhelming?
Bad experience?
I'm coming from an LG V20 and phone jealousy lead to me purchasing this. I hope I no longer am jealous of anyone's phone.
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I think part of the problem is the people who are having issues will always be the loudest, even though those people probably reside in the minority of those who've purchased the phone. Speaking for myself and all the people I've run into in person with the device, I have relatively no complaints. The performance is blazing fast and the phone has a great feel due to HTC's top-notch manufacturing. My only complaint has been the camera. I've come to realize that I was expecting a substantial jump in quality over my previous device, which was an iPhone 6+. Wile the quality is great, in reality this is just a smart phone camera. If I want high quality photos, I'm still going to keep my Sony RX100m3 with me if I remotely think I'll want a great shot. In the meantime and if I don't have my Sony, "the best camera is the one you have on you," and it definitely doesn't disappoint, it's just not a big leap for smart phone photography as I thought it would be. Hope my thoughts help, I would be very excited to have the device if I were you. After many Android devices and an iPhone, this is the best smart phone experience I've had.
It's a really good phone. I'm personally going back to the S7 Edge because I'm pretty disappointed in the camera but I knew some people really like the camera.
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It's a really good phone. I'm personally going back to the S7 Edge because I'm pretty disappointed in the camera but I knew some people really like the camera.
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Said no one ever. Lol
zaksimmermon said:
Said no one ever. Lol
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Which part?
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It's a really good phone. I'm personally going back to the S7 Edge because I'm pretty disappointed in the camera but I knew some people really like the camera.
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I do miss my Note 7 camera and all the functionality. People also say this is the fastest shooter but with the most useful shooting mode I have to still wait for the hdr+ affect when trying to view immediately after taking the photo.
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I do miss my Note 7 camera and all the functionality. People also say this is the fastest shooter but with the most useful shooting mode I have to still wait for the hdr+ affect when trying to view immediately after taking the photo.
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Yeah I noticed that in the Verizon store while testing that while you can take several shots consecutively (as reviews have stated) with no lag, there is lag waiting for the shots to be able to be viewed. That'll take some getting used to.
Coming from a Nexus 6P and host of other Android phones in the past, this is by far the best phone EXPERIENCE I've had. I've liked the design on the 6P better along with stereo speakers, and there are other phones with more features and hardware out of the box, but when you put together the Android experience of the Pixel XL along with the performance, camera and battery life, you just can't beat it.
Now, I really do hate the fact that a phone at this price doesn't have the water resistance of the flagship at this price point but that's a minor gripe. The camera (the speed of it is a lifesaver when you have a infant around the house) is better than I expected. My wife just got herself an iphone 7+ and this camera blows it out of the water.
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I had no intentions of leaving my Nexus 6p with the bigger screen and the dual front facing speakers. After reading reviews on the Pixel XL, and hearing how good the performance and camera were, I decided to make the switch. The screen size difference is minimal, and I like that the XL isn't quite as wide as the 6p. I do miss the Dual speakers, but with WETA volume isn't a problem. The everyday performance of the Pixel is superior to the 6p. Everything runs smoothly and fluidly. The camera is excellent. I've never seen pictures so good from a phone. It seems to me that it's just as good as any point and shoot camera. Now onto development. Granted, there isn't a whole lot yet, but I'm sure the dam is going to burst soon. The dual slots open up a whole new world to us flashaholics, and I'm excited to see where it leads. Overall, I'm glad I got the Pixel, and I look forward for things to come.
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Any chance you would be open to parting with the 6p? :laugh:
I have a pixel and I came from an s5. I just love to have new stuff to mess with and I never got to use a nexus device and it would be fun because of how much h development there is for it! Maybe we could figure out a trade for something of mine!
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Any chance you would be open to parting with the 6p? :laugh:
I have a pixel and I came from an s5. I just looked e to have new stuff to mess with and I never got to use a nexus device and it would be fun because of how much h development there is for it! Maybe we could figure out a trade for something of mine!
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Edit - sold
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Coming from a Nexus 6P and host of other Android phones in the past, this is by far the best phone EXPERIENCE I've had. I've liked the design on the 6P better along with stereo speakers, and there are other phones with more features and hardware out of the box, but when you put together the Android experience of the Pixel XL along with the performance, camera and battery life, you just can't beat it.
Now, I really do hate the fact that a phone at this price doesn't have the water resistance of the flagship at this price point but that's a minor gripe. The camera (the speed of it is a lifesaver when you have a infant around the house) is better than I expected. My wife just got herself an iphone 7+ and this camera blows it out of the water.
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So happy to hear this - I have two little ones and my LG V20 camera cannot keep up. Hoping this improves with the Pixel XL!
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Coming from a Nexus 6P and host of other Android phones in the past, this is by far the best phone EXPERIENCE I've had. I've liked the design on the 6P better along with stereo speakers, and there are other phones with more features and hardware out of the box, but when you put together the Android experience of the Pixel XL along with the performance, camera and battery life, you just can't beat it.
Now, I really do hate the fact that a phone at this price doesn't have the water resistance of the flagship at this price point but that's a minor gripe. The camera (the speed of it is a lifesaver when you have a infant around the house) is better than I expected. My wife just got herself an iphone 7+ and this camera blows it out of the water.
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Couldn't agree more with you. This device is by far the best I ever had. Pure stock was amazing right out of the box but now with MVK kernel it's just unbelievable.
I have every Nexus device, most recently the N6P. The pixel is better in my eyes, alone the battery is around worlds better. Speed of the device it top, processing top, did not regret the purchase.
I love it Ive had it for about two months now. The phone is top notch hardware wise, but it's the software that makes it shine. I can't tell you how awesome Google assistant is, I find myself regularly using it to make my life easier. "Take me home" after it learns your voice the recognition is spot on. The live translation is pretty awesome too. Multitasking is great, the double tap to back is seamless. Battery last all day which is ridiculous considering I use it to play NDS games when I have time to myself. I mean really it's an all around awesome phone. My uncle also bought one and he told me he's never really been to excited about a phone but this one has so many nicities woven throughout the experience that he just fell in love. I'm weary to trust reddit threads and bug threads not just out of Google fan boy love, but for any product. You will find the same discontent threads on the iPhone as well because other entities influence the media to try to tank eachother. I mean reviews are important but there is problems some people are having with the phone, but I can't help wonder if it's not being blown out of proportion
Had the 6p for little while and it would be random reboots even after updating and factory reset. Maybe related to the thermal throttling? Phone never got warm so I don't know. Pixel has been much stabler and using it has been very fluid. My biggest gripe is that my gesture typing doesn't seem as accurate compared to when I used the 6p or the nexus 6. I'm not sure if it's because of the smaller screen. I'm getting better but can't figure out why this is. Would I buy it again? I probably would. The camera is quick and more than adequate.
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Couldn't agree more with you. This device is by far the best I ever had. Pure stock was amazing right out of the box but now with MVK kernel it's just unbelievable.
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MVK kernel?
I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that.
Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.)
Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
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I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that.
Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.)
Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
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I am happy with it.
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Very happy specially the camera
Very happy with mine! Best battery life of any phone I've ever owned and buttery smooth user experience!
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I have had this phone since day one with no issues at all except I took the Verizon deal and got bootloader locked in. The camera is awesome. The pure Android is phenomenal. The screen size and clarity excellent and responsiveness from app to app blows away my work s8 and previous iPhone 8. I've talked a lot of my colleagues into the move to the pixel line due to this pixel 2xl. The fact we get all updates first ensures the longevity of its life cycle and the resale factor is solid.
I love it, screen issues are over blown IMO. With my usage I can get nearly 2 days out of the battery and stock android. Stay away of the 6p, the battery issues are real. I had one for about a year and 3 months and the battery issue reared it's ugly head. Looked for a quality replacement, thought I had found one, took it apart and replaced it myself and was screwed. The original battery was swollen and deformed beyond belief, amazed it had not exploded yet. Replacement batteries for that phone are impossible to find, anything you do find will have issues. The genuine replace I found caused the phone to shut off when using the camera and the phone would not power back on until you plugged it in. Makes camera unusable and phone useless if it shuts off on you and you do not have a cord around. When you get in that situation you find out how few devices really use a usb c at this point ....
Anyways back to your question, Love this phone so far. I also loved my 6p until the battery issue came up and would still be using it if that had not happened. But this is a great upgrade.
I'm very, very, very happy with this astonishing smartphone! :laugh:
Like you, I was a Nexus 6 owner, too, before buying the Pixel 2 XL and, in about 3 years of usage with the N6, in my opinion, after the launch of the new Made by Google family on October 4th, this phone would have been the only real heir and successor of the good old Nexus 6, and my theories have been all confirmed when I've receveid it one month ago
I have a galaxy S8+ and I still use my pixel 2XL as my daily driver. This is my first nexus/pixel device and I could not be happier. The battery life is amazing, their quick charger is far faster than Samsung's. The screen issue, pulled others have said are blown completely out of proportion. I was spazzing out looking to see if my device had "defects". I decided to stay away from the forums and tech blogs I read. And I still to this day have not had any issues with my display. Did I mention the battery life is amazing? The unlockable bootloader is a new thing for me as well. The people that go out of their way to write reviews are more likely to write something if they have a negative experience. I'll lurk the forums to see what's going on. But I usually don't chime in unless I have something of value to contribute. I have the black 128gb. I.would purchase this phone again. I also lol forward to the next generation.
As long as you get one without too much blue tint at angles (screen lottery), then the phone is amazing, especially the camera, pure Android, quick updates, speed.
But I seriously contemplated holding out until next year because my first phone had significantly noticeable blue tint. I traded for a second and the second was much better luckily. Some people have had to trade it in several times before they got a good one
Came from an S7 Edge and din't expect much of an upgrade. I was wrong, this phone feels way quicker, lasts twice as long and the camera is truly astonishingly good.
My only complaint is the lack of a headpone jack and a gamma curve causing crushed blacks at minimum/v.low brightness.
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I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that. Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.) Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
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Skip the N6P and go straight to the Pixel line- you will experience problems with the N6P, guaranteed. I traded in my bootlooping N6P for a stellar 2XL, with zero issues. What you are hearing/reading is a very vocal minority of ppl who aren't satisfied. Many of the claims are simply unfounded. Great phone, extended 2 year warranty through Google, incredible camera, free unlimited 4k photo/video storage. I understand Verizon has a cut rate deal on their bootloader locked phone but (personally) I would pay the extra money to buy directly through Google and then use it on Verizon. My phones need to be bootloader and carrier unlocked. Your needs may be different. Best of luck.
My Pixel 2 XL just arrived yesterday from Google, I followed Max Lee's guide to root it immediately.
I also have the LG V30 through T-Mobile, and I have to say, the Pixel phone feels laggy in areas. I rooted it right away, so can't say what it felt like stock, but compared to my T-Mobile LG V30 which is bone stock, no root, the V30 feels much smoother and very snappy in comparison. I am actually shocked at how the V30 feels like a nicer phone to be honest, the screen is more vibrant on the V30, the smoothness is faster on the V30. Not sure how that's possible compared to a stock Android phone ? I rooted it for AdAway and Titanium Backup.
Opening the Phone app, or Settings or Messages app, I see a slight lag and jerky animation for a split second, which is NOT there whatsoever on my V30.
And not to be rude, but where are the custom ROM's ? I cannot believe there's not one single custom ROM at all yet released for the Pixel2 XL ? Phone's been out 2 months and zero ROM's ? I owned nearly every Nexus phone, and the first two months there'd be a ton of ROM's and development happening. What's going on?
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I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that.
Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.)
Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
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We have 3 on family lines and love this phone. Perfect size, very fast, and the clock/date always on display is great.
If you listen to much music, it shows title and artist of most tunes. It's good on battery and charges up fast.
Buy a Google unlockable version if you tinker with your phones, or get a screaming deal at Verizon now if you do not plan to unlock the bootloader.
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Came from an S7 Edge and din't expect much of an upgrade. I was wrong, this phone feels way quicker, lasts twice as long and the camera is truly astonishingly good.
My only complaint is the lack of a headpone jack and a gamma curve causing crushed blacks at minimum/v.low brightness.
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So is blue tooth the only option or is there a adapter to the charging port like the iPhone has?
Thank you all for the feedback
The only complaint that I have with this phone is that I'm too happy with it. Every other phone I've owned has either been locked down or not properly supported, and I've had to undertake the fun projects of unlocking/getting custom roms/ making stuff work/ etc. This phone gives me everything I want. I have no reason to mess with it and if I ever did, unlocking is as easy as "fastboot flashing unlock." That's no fun at all.
I am thrilled with this phone. I knew about the blue shift going in and tested that out at Best BUy and thought it was completely doable. Boy was I wrong, the screen is actually way more than doable. The software is the best Android yet, and I've been on Android since the Nexus 1 phone. Everything works spectacular from the camera to the battery to the buttery smoothness. There are a couple little things I wish worked better but this is by far the closest phone to perfect I've gotten since being an Android user from day 1.
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It has bluetooth and an adapter like the iphone.
very happy with it
if i wanted a cheaper phone and didn't care about fast/latest/longest SW updates, i would have gotten the OP5T though
Came from a Nexus 6P which was and is an excellent phone but this 2xl is just that little bit better in every department. The camera is utterly stellar, the phone is soo fast plus updates are immediate.. Brilliant brilliant piece of kit:good:
Most excellent device and a perfect upgrade from my Pixel1xl and Nexus6P!
I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
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I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
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Ive been using Samsung for years. Started with the s3 then note3 then note5 and now pixel2xl.
So far pixel2xl has been great. The colors were a bit dull before the update giving us saturated colors, which fixed it for me. But other than that performance wise its a dream. My personal experience i have yet to experience studder or lag. Performance is the best ive ever experienced with any previous phone and the battery life is second to none. I average 8hr sot with watching YouTube, games, calls, internet.
The note3 and note5 were bought through Verizon so i haven't been able to flash roms or anything since my s3 and currently enjoying trying different mods and whatnot.
Overall this phone is amazing. Im not sure about the button to answer, as of right how it's swipe but could be a way to change that. If you get a chance to get this phone you won't be disappointed.
I have Pixel 2 XL and performance is great but I'm leaning towards Oneplus 5t since I can buy 2 of it and performance is par to Pixel.
The pixel 2 XL was good enough to replace my note 8. And that's says a LOT! ?
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daviddem said:
I have Pixel 2 XL and performance is great but I'm leaning towards Oneplus 5t since I can buy 2 of it and performance is par to Pixel.
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That's not actually true. The pixel is actually smoother. I've had both. The pixel does have a smoother feel. Might be because of Oreo. And where I am the OnePlus is £499. And the pixel 2 XL is £699 with a free speaker. Do you couldn't even get 1 and a half OnePlus for the same price...saying you can get 2 for the same price is far fetched. I also wouldn't recommend switching. The OnePlus is a good phone for the price but it is a down grade and you will notice a few areas are not as good
Love my Pixel XL 2 better than my S8+
Reuben_skelz92 said:
That's not actually true. The pixel is actually smoother. I've had both. The pixel does have a smoother feel. Might be because of Oreo. And where I am the OnePlus is £499. And the pixel 2 XL is £699 with a free speaker. Do you couldn't even get 1 and a half OnePlus for the same price...saying you can get 2 for the same price is far fetched. I also wouldn't recommend switching. The OnePlus is a good phone for the price but it is a down grade and you will notice a few areas are not as good
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Thats not true for USA. The pixel 2 XL 128GB cost $1000+ with tax and Oneplus 5t 128GB $550. At the moment I have both side by side and performance there is no difference.
I've been a Samsung fanboy since my Samsung Galaxy vibrant with T-Mobile. I've had every Samsung Galaxy S phone up to the Galaxy s8+. I don't miss it one bit. I was on the fence for several weeks. I ordered it, cancelled multiple times because of all the bad press. I eventually pulled the trigger and bought the 64gb in black, but I forgot to get the premium coverage. So I returned it and got a 128gb. I don't regret purchasing this phone outright at all. To be honest. I don't think I'll go back. Not until Samsung comes out with something unbelievable. The way that I look at it. Samsung is like a Lamborghini or Ferrari of Android. But they can throw all the best parts, displays, whatever bells and whistles they want. But what good is a Lamborghini or Ferrari with a bad tune? Although the pixel 2 XL may not be the best looking device. It's tuned specifically for this phone and you can tell. Also, I sort of prefer the "natural" colors of this display. If you're going to look for issues, your going to find them in any device. But as for the phone calls. When somebody calls and your display is off. It will pop up a a screen with a circle. You can swipe up to answer the call, or down to ignore it. If your screen is on. A small box will pop up with the contact calling and you can take answer or ignore. I'll try to send some screen shots.
Some reason I couldn't update my previous post. But the attachments are what the call screen looks like from both perspectives.
Ive had my Pixel 2 XL for a week now and I have never had any lag/stutter even when syncing in the background. Battery is superb, 5-6hrs screen on time is easily achieved. Speakers are loud and clean. What can I say more about the camera? Camera is beast!
I used Samsung from S2 to S6 and there is always this delay/lag when opening apps. I guess its just the animation. I find Samsung chargers easy to have problems (slow charge). I am not sure with the S8 now. AMOLED is nice, but hurts my eyes. These are the reasons I went away from AMOLED to IPS LCD (pre-Pixel2XL). I was hesitant at first getting the Pixel 2 XL with all these display issues around it. But personally, the Boosted display settings is just right. I do not like the Saturated settings because it reminds me of Samsung. Too vivid for my liking. The Boosted colors are not washed out, people are just used to/spoiled seeing punchy AMOLED displays, looked unnatural.
As for your concern, a little adjustment when taking the call would be the best move.
So, if youre looking for a phone with the best performance, updates, camera, go get the Pixel 2 XL.
Display is subjective. For the missing headphone jack, im ok with it, they provide a c-3.5mm converter. Thats about it! Hopefully I have contributed something to your decision.
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Thats not true for USA. The pixel 2 XL 128GB cost $1000+ with tax and Oneplus 5t 128GB $550. At the moment I have both side by side and performance there is no difference.
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That doesn't seem to be true based on many reviews of OP5t performance vs the Pixel 2, even the very thorough review of the OP5t here at xda. Long story short: P2 offers a much more fluid experience than the OP5t and may even be a little snappier. The OP5t utilizes animation tricks to make the phone seem and feel snappier than it is and it's smoothness is nowhere near the level of the Pixel 2. Throw in the sub par camera, poor support and outdated firmware and it's no wonder they sell em for so cheap. Plus, it's $874 vs $550, hardly double.
I've had a LOT of phones over the years, usually switching every 6 months selling off whatever I had to get the absolute latest, but slowed down once I got my OnePlus 3T... It's an AMAZING phone for the price. I was done with Samsung after the 6 series. That said, I went to the Google Pixel 2 XL instead of the 5T because of the dual front facing speakers as well as a few other Pixel only features and I do not regret it at all. The blue-shift isn't too bad once you adjust the colors a bit on the screen (I'm rooted and using EX Kernel / KCal).
My girlfriend has the Samsung S7 Edge and a few friends have the S8s and all want the Pixel 2 XL now after checking it out. It's hard to match the software experience you get on a Pixel device, that's for sure. You can't beat having dual-speakers on a phone, makes for daily use, hearing calls, music, watching videos all the better. I do recommend the 5T for those not worried about camera or dual-speakers as it's got a nicer out-of-the-box looking screen and is much less expensive to purchase, it's no slouch overall. In the end, the Pixel 2 XL was worth every extra penny for my use... make a list of things you need from a phone and see which works best for you as you're all that matters with your phone purchase. Our opinions aren't here to sway you away from what's best for you.
Is is worth rooting since it comes so clean without bloatware compared to Samsung?
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Is is worth rooting since it comes so clean without bloatware compared to Samsung?
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Depends on what you want. For me 100% it is. Adaway, themes, terminal em, titanium backup, root browser.
Besides the themes, can you explain what the others are for
I've used Titanium when I had the note 4. I don't know how a root browser would be different
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That doesn't seem to be true based on many reviews of OP5t performance vs the Pixel 2, even the very thorough review of the OP5t here at xda. Long story short: P2 offers a much more fluid experience than the OP5t and may even be a little snappier. The OP5t utilizes animation tricks to make the phone seem and feel snappier than it is and it's smoothness is nowhere near the level of the Pixel 2. Throw in the sub par camera, poor support and outdated firmware and it's no wonder they sell em for so cheap. Plus, it's $874 vs $550, hardly double.
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I agree. Saying it's double the price is an exaggerated. And I was surprised. When I was using the oneplus 5t my wife's pixel 2 did seem even more fluid and smooth
All the little things for me have been working better on the pixel 2 as well. I get better mobile signal...and sometimes the oneplus would refuse to turn on my mobile data so I had to restart it
The vibration motor is much nicer on the pixel
Screen is on par if not better in some areas on the pixel
Dual speakers. Amazing camera
Don't get me wrong the oneplus 5t is a great phone for the price but when you switch to the pixel you do feel the price difference in pretty much every area
..even in the small things
At this point I can't imagine going back to a non-Google phone. My first smartphone was a Nexus One and I loved it. I then went to a Galaxy S2 which was a piece of ****. Since then I have yet to see much improvement from Samsung software and the software from other phone makers isn't much better. I'm pretty much on an every other year cycle of whatever Google puts out because even if it isn't perfect it's still better than the alternative.
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I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks
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Can I add that the ambient display with time and date is soooo fine?
When notifications arrive, they're below the always on time and date.
Plus there's "what's playing now", showing artist and song name for whatever
you're listening to. These capabilities make this phone perfect for me.
Battery life does not seem to take a hit for this luxury.
The active Edge (squeezing it) allows me to turn on the torch with screen off, which is awesome. Like when getting my keys out at night. The phone is spectacular and I've had an s8+. It's my fav. You prob could map the squeeze to answer phone. But I know you could answer with push of a button. Just remap the fourth hidden nav button maybe.