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So ive had a lot of questions from friends and family about my S7 Active; lots of rumors and false info too. Ask me anything.
UPDATE - Tried old AT&T 'phone' APN settings that worked with my S4 for tethering, they do not work on S7 Active, even with tethering provisioning disabled.
The camera is excellent, has approximately 11-11.5 stops of dynamic range (in RAW, obviously), and the OIS is fantastic. Very sharp (again in RAW) optics as well; about up there with my ancient Nikon D300 with the excellent 18-200VR lens attached in terms of sharpness, BARELY less dynamic range, and the OIS works just as well as the Nikon VR lenses i own; highly impressed actually. VERY good low light, very low noise and no discernable noise pattern. I have not shot anything in JPEG; I usually drag a BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera with a Panasonic Lumix OIS 12-35 f2.8 lens around as well as my Nikon D300 with assorted stabilized zooms and prime optics as well, as i shoot and film everything in RAW (i filmed and shot ads, corp videos, music videos, etc professionally for several years). The S7 Active does NOT shoot RAW video, but one might be able to downsample 4k footage to a decent bitrate 1080p with very good results and much higher bitrates to play with. Dynamic range is limited in JPEG from what ive seen, although HDR more works pretty decent for a cell phone, in both video and photo modes. OIS is ALWAYS on, and AF tracking works pretty good; about the same as 3D Tracking on the Nikon D300, just a hair slower. AF is fast and accurate, nowhere near DSLR's, but WAY faster than most phones, and WAY faster and more accurate than 'Focus' push on the Blackmagic Pocket cam, but thats to be expected from a camera you usually rig up and manually pull focus on anyways.
Tethering is natively accessible in the stock ROM, i have an (ancient) grandfathered unlimited data plan through AT&T, and i have full access to APN information and settings, and am wondering if tethering may be enabled natively with the stock ROM. I have disabled all bloatware (via paid app), tweaked and tested it out since launch day; it really does easily last about 30 hours with moderate use once tweaked; with most useful options enabled (even S-voice, NFC, Always-On Display and GPS). I also have access to a totally vanilla, unmodified/untweaked S7 Active that i bought for my parents (coming from a launch day AT&T Sammy S3) to compare with; GSAM battery stats etc, for a wholistic 'Out Of Box' vs tweaked comparison.
Ideally, and mostly for app/settings backup/misc tweaks, id like to see the S7a rooted, but i dont feel its entirely needed, all things considered. Mine is now pending SIM unlock via AT&T (obviously) and i have all bloatware disabled, greenified, and tweaked for even better battery life as well as a simple, smooth, one page launcher/one page dock to keep things nice, neat and clean.
I upgraded from a rooted/ROMed/SIM unlocked Galaxy S4 with an ancient S4 Goldeneye Int'l ROM that i heavily modified, only because i kept getting SIM NOT INSTALLED errors and GPS refused to lock on after i dropped it (for only the second time i might add, after 3 years), with an Anker 5200Mah battery/cover, and i absolutely love it. Being able to rinse it off without fear and let it get bumped about is a relief; i really took great care to keep my old S4 in excellent shape and not damage it. For the first time, i bought a case (TPU) and screen protector, as i intend to keep it for at least 3 years; same as the S4; i just dont plan to baby it, as i bike, kayak, am active in motorsports, horseriding, camping, skydiving, and just about anything else i can do. Normally, i would stuff my S4 into a ziplock with paper towels or foam around it when doing anything 'risky'; its nice to have a phone thats decently durable again; my first phone was a Nokia 5165; it survived being backed over by my ancient 1983 Mazda RX-7, having the antenna chewed on for hours by a bored German Shepard, as well as thrown down a staircase by a crazy high school ex-girlfriend; i missed its rugged durability, though not the ex'es mood swings, though i am far more careful now, both with my phones and romantic choices.
I have been modding phones since WinMo 5.0 and Pineapple for iPhone 3G; from the HTC Hermes/AT&T 8525, HTC 8925 TyTN II/Kaiser, iPhone 3G, Moto Atrix 4g/Olympus, Sammy S3 and Sammy S4; ROMs, add-ons, hacks, tethering, misc tweaks, and all means of assorted risky business to make my mobile better suited to my lifestyle and what i want out of it. I travel a lot for work, sport, and vacations.
This appears to be the first fully featured, ruggedized flagship with no compromises (aside from locked to GSM and initially via AT&T only), but otherwise i have found no real faults. I prefer plastics and rubber over glass and metal; they tend to last longer and survive far better than pretty/elegant/unique metal/glass designs. I paid for it outright, and AT&T kindly sent me the SIM unlock code 2 days after i requested it, for free, as i am travelling to France, Greece, and Russia shortly to visit family and friends. I had a few friends who have had S4, S5, and S6 Actives and loved them, although 2 did manage to crack the screens dropping them. Based on recent youtube stuff, i cant see that happening as frequently with the S7 Active due to the plastic laminated screen, though it will scratch easier.
I will not attempt to test its durability, so dont ask. Plenty of youtube and misc reviews do that and far more; i think its kind of useless, redundant, and wasteful to intentionally subject anything to needless duress just to 'test' out its capabilities, so please dont ask about that. Anything else is a total go; from adoptable storage to wifi and APN testing, i am totally game.
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just to clarify some specs, the screen is actually a laminate of polycarbonate plastic on top of Gorilla Glass 4, so while it is much improved in terms of shatter resistance, it is MUCH more prone to scratches, i highly recommend a glass screen protector so you dont scratch up the polycarb screen. I bought a SuperShieldz 2 pack for $8 that works great. the laminate plastic is NOT removable, so once scratched, its there permanently. A cheap case isnt a bad idea either, i bought a clear Cimo TPU cover for $8 for the hell of it.
I have never broken a screen yet, but i had dropped my phones a few times, never used screen protectors or cases/covers either, but figured for a few bucks, considering im much more into kayaking, hiking, biking, and skiing now (funny how more income=more toys and more fun), why the hell not? its a big device as is; but i have been consistently seeing 30 hours of battery life between charges, which is enough to get me through 2 days of moderate to heavy use in areas with terrible signal and no wi-fi.
Adoptable storage really isnt needed; it CAN be done, but there's no going back besides a factory reset if you want things to work properly. I tried it for 3 days, and eventually reset and went back to external portable storage, and transferred all apps, data, pics, etc to ExtSD as well as scripted an auto transfer of all videos, pics, downloads, etc from internal to external storage nightly onto the 200GB microSD card i bought. Also, im paranoid about wearing out the micro USB port as i did (twice) with my S4, so i bought a Samsung Fast Wireless Charger. Its just as fast as the regular, wired fast charger you get in the box, plus its basically just a tilted disc cradle with a Fast Charger plugged into it; same cable and power brick as the S7 Active charger you get in the box. I bought a second, black one i intend to hack down and stealth install into the center console of my Mazda RX-8 above the transmission tunnel behind the shifter so i can hide the wires.
how do you delete a screenshot on the galaxy s7... or how can I remove the gallery app so I have more control over what I can delete or store....Yes I'm a noob and I dont want to root the phone if I can help it... any hepl will be appreciated... Cheers
Can you extract Activity Zone Apk from system? You don't need root permission to copy. I want to know if it is possible to run on regular S7.
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nooob1963 said:
how do you delete a screenshot on the galaxy s7... or how can I remove the gallery app so I have more control over what I can delete or store....Yes I'm a noob and I dont want to root the phone if I can help it... any hepl will be appreciated... Cheers
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The easiest and cleanest way without root is to utilize Package Disabler Pro in the Google Play store, and disable 'Gallery'. You can also enable private mode on the folders or albums you dont want to see (i did this to avoid seeing ad based albums, system albums, as well as album covers for music that i have on a 200GB MicroSD card).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
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Can you extract Activity Zone Apk from system? You don't need root permission to copy. I want to know if it is possible to run on regular S7.
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If it does not require root to copy, i am sure i could snag it for you, how would i go about doing so? PM me and i will snag it and send it to you.
The activity button is awesome to have actually; its why i went for the S7 Active over the regular S7; programmable to 3 different apps (short press, double press, long press, or you can disable them individually). Mine is set to Camera (short) and a free flashlight app (long) with double press disabled (i rarely use activity zone).
I have a new unlimited plan with AT&T, just switched from Verizon, and I am having trouble getting any tethering working. I even tested FoxFi and several other apps from the store.
Do you have any solutions?
Does the phone use a custom rom other than the standard samsung s7 (edge) rom? I noticed the model number is different and ofc it has the extra button...
So, will at&t update this phone with all the (limited) updates samsung provides? And if we were to get root access, will we be able to install the roms for s7?
Other question: Why doesnt this phone work with the gear VR platform? (what are the differences?)
thx!
EnduringGuerila said:
I have a new unlimited plan with AT&T, just switched from Verizon, and I am having trouble getting any tethering working. I even tested FoxFi and several other apps from the store.
Do you have any solutions?
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Easy tether pro works flawlessly for me. I also use a vpn so att hopefully have a harder time telling I'm tethering
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Slade8525 said:
The easiest and cleanest way without root is to utilize Package Disabler Pro in the Google Play store, and disable 'Gallery'. You can also enable private mode on the folders or albums you dont want to see (i did this to avoid seeing ad based albums, system albums, as well as album covers for music that i have on a 200GB MicroSD card).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
If it does not require root to copy, i am sure i could snag it for you, how would i go about doing so? PM me and i will snag it and send it to you.
The activity button is awesome to have actually; its why i went for the S7 Active over the regular S7; programmable to 3 different apps (short press, double press, long press, or you can disable them individually). Mine is set to Camera (short) and a free flashlight app (long) with double press disabled (i rarely use activity zone).
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Can you please upload the apk somewhere where I can download it too? Thank you in advance.
"Galaxy S7 Active - Ask me anything"
How long are your toe nails?
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EnduringGuerila said:
I have a new unlimited plan with AT&T, just switched from Verizon, and I am having trouble getting any tethering working. I even tested FoxFi and several other apps from the store.
Do you have any solutions?
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There are tethering apps and VPN options, but i havent tried them out just yet. Tethering with the rooted/unlocked/ROM'ed S4 was a quick launch button away, and was awesome because i could manage portfolios for clients right on their own computer or tablet at a golf course or at a race track or wherever. my clients LOVED when i did that for them lol.
I dont REALLY need it anymore as i switched careers and only hold majority stake in my brokerage, and no longer deal with clients regularly, and am taking summer and fall off for adventures, but ill look into it as eventually ill want to use my laptop or ipad again somewhere without wifi.
Arthasdude said:
Does the phone use a custom rom other than the standard samsung s7 (edge) rom? I noticed the model number is different and ofc it has the extra button...
So, will at&t update this phone with all the (limited) updates samsung provides? And if we were to get root access, will we be able to install the roms for s7?
Other question: Why doesnt this phone work with the gear VR platform? (what are the differences?)
thx!
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The ROM appears to be different, is activity zone and activity button functionality all built in. I doubt we will get root access, frankly, but i dont think its really needed, once i have a solution worked out for tethering i'll be quite happy.
baseband - G891AUCU1APE7
kernel - 3.18.20-7999892
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build - MMB29M.G891AUCU1APE7
As for Gear VR, it WOULD work, its the physical size of the device that is the main constraint, although a buddy modified his VR to work with it. I have no interest in VR so havent bothered. Ill ask him to send some pics.
Vismis said:
Easy tether pro works flawlessly for me. I also use a vpn so att hopefully have a harder time telling I'm tethering
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Do you pay for your VPN, and have you ever gotten pinched/texted from AT&T with easy tether pro? i desperately miss this from the unlocked/rooted/ROM'ed S4!
arnes_king said:
Can you please upload the apk somewhere where I can download it too? Thank you in advance.
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Check your PM's
BCSC said:
"Galaxy S7 Active - Ask me anything"
How long are your toe nails?
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lol all are uniformly extending approximately 1mm past the end of the toenail bed
root s7 with stock rom
How can i root my sm-g891a?
doubtful root will be achieved.
Hi Slade8525, I got my S7Active few weeks ago, because I was very attracted by the 4000 mAh battery.
The problem is... I can't get even a full day! I found Android System sucking >30% of the battery, is this something happening also in your device?
Unfortunately I couldn't find any battery analyzer that will break down the drain by package, so I always have Android System and Android OS as the mayor battery offenders...
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Hi Slade8525, I got my S7Active few weeks ago, because I was very attracted by the 4000 mAh battery.
The problem is... I can't get even a full day! I found Android System sucking >30% of the battery, is this something happening also in your device?
Unfortunately I couldn't find any battery analyzer that will break down the drain by package, so I always have Android System and Android OS as the mayor battery offenders...
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No, Android System is closer to 15% and thats with literally EVERYTHING turned on (GPS, wifi, NFC, Bluetooth etc); with it stripped down and all excess services (google app, svoice, etc) its closer to 8%.
Try backing up apps, install GSam battery monitor (not root version), and let it run for 2-3 days to figure out whats eating your battery. Also check out Apk Disabler Pro for Samsung; i'll post the list of disabled services from mine if you like. Aside from that, some clever work in Tasker and Greenify and you should hit 30 to 40 hours with decent SOT out of it.
May want to try a factory reset and start fresh; ive done it twice already, to learn what combo's work best or cause issues. its a pain but was worth it.
Hi there,
Where did you get your set from and is it unlocked?
Thanks!
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Hello,
I think you've already answered this, but where can I find a root file for my Samsung Galaxy S7 Active ?
I think I saw that file is archived somewhere, I am a new user, do you have a link to these files ?
Thank you.
Matt.
Could you post pics of modified vr for s7 active? Also, will s7 roms be compatible with the s7 active? Only thing I believe could be issues would be with the quad core processor (where the s7 has an 8 core), battery size, and tactile buttons.
MattHoyZ said:
Hello,
I think you've already answered this, but where can I find a root file for my Samsung Galaxy S7 Active ?
I think I saw that file is archived somewhere, I am a new user, do you have a link to these files ?
Thank you.
Matt.
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Friend tried to install a rooted S7 (non-edge, USA Qualcomm 820) ROM and it simply bootloops, he managed to get it back to stock (ill try to find the stock S7 Active ROM for Odin/brick purposes and post a link). Root has not been achieved for S7 Active and likely never will, sadly.
chesterchen said:
Hi there,
Where did you get your set from and is it unlocked?
Thanks!
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AT&T store in USA (bought 5 total actually; folks, myself, GF, and for 2 relatives in Europe). I requested that AT&T unlock them, and as they were paid for outright, AT&T sent the correct unlock codes for each unit. S7 Active is ONLY available in USA through AT&T, however WILL work on any international GSM carrier or USA GSM carrier ONCE it is SIM unlocked. Again, if you pay for it outright, are in good standing with AT&T, they will unlock it no questions, no problems, and no additional costs. They can also be unlocked, for a price, by certain websites that you could find by doing a google search, id prefer not to refer or name companies.
TD68 said:
Could you post pics of modified vr for s7 active? Also, will s7 roms be compatible with the s7 active? Only thing I believe could be issues would be with the quad core processor (where the s7 has an 8 core), battery size, and tactile buttons.
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SOME nationally available and all int'l S7/S7 Edge have the Exynos octa-core; all AT&T S7, S7 Edge, and S7 Active have Qualcomm 820 quad core processor. I will try to get pics of my friends modified VR; he just left overseas for work. S7/S7 Edge ROMs will lead to endless bootloops (ie have to ODIN back to stock) and it is likely there will never be root or ROM options for these phones, which is unfortunate.
I played with an S7 and S7 Edge; the programmable active button is awesome, there are no cut corners on specs (do get a glass screen protector asap though), and the battery i average 40 hours with Greenify, a tasker screen-off kill-open-apps task, and bloatware (including all facebook crap) disabled. i leave S-voice on, Google App on, wifi on about 50% of the time, and GPS always on.
Thx. Also could we use kingroot?
My rear camera glass cover shattered after just 1 week for no apparent reason (never been dropped) in a perfect circular pattern. Any way it can be replaced without paying the insurance cost? Can't find parts online anywhere.
I'm a T-Mobile user & have been holding out on an upgrade for the S9, but am seeing some really concerning chatter about its performance, battery life, & T-Mobile signal quality, and am now wondering if I should just go with an S8. Snapdragon is a non-option for me (having *proper* backup - aka Titanium - is IMO a bare essential). Thus I'm only comparing Exynos S8 to Exynos S9.
1) The Anandtech review everyone's been talking about shows the Exynos S9's battery life / performance as even worse than last year's Exynos S8. I realize these are synthetic tests, but so far they're the best direct comparison I've got, & I would assume they'd be at least somewhat representative of real-world behavior (though they may i.e. inflate the difference). And *if* these results are indeed representative of what to expect, it feels a bit silly to pay more for a newer phone that's a downgrade in battery life. I've read through a number of threads & seen a pile of individual numbers, but if anyone has some specific experience with a 1:1 Exynos S8 to Exynos S9 comparison, it could be very enlightening. Most of the comparisons I've found on here seem to be Snapdragon vs Exynos.
2) I've also seen some threads that say Exynos S9 is getting really bad speed on T-Mobile (i.e. here). The same user later said in another thread (here) that they were somehow able to get it working better, but that it still has noticeably worse signal than Snapdragon S9. Again, I'd be interested to know if Exynos S8 vs Exynos S9 show similar behavior.
3) Finally, as I live in a weak signal area, T-Mobile WiFi calling is essential. From what I understand it isn't yet possible on Exynos S9, but based on past trends it's pretty safe to assume that at some point someone will figure out how to enable it. It looks like it's currently working on Exynos S8 (reference). Is this accurate?
For the sake of longevity & the centered fingerprint reader I'd obviously prefer the S9...but not *if* it comes at the cost of worse battery, worse T-Mobile signal, & no T-Mobile WiFi calling. The *IF* is what I'd really like to try & determine before pulling the trigger on one or the other
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I'm a T-Mobile user & have been holding out on an upgrade for the S9, but am seeing some really concerning chatter about its performance, battery life, & T-Mobile signal quality, and am now wondering if I should just go with an S8. Snapdragon is a non-option for me (having *proper* backup - aka Titanium - is IMO a bare essential). Thus I'm only comparing Exynos S8 to Exynos S9.
1) The Anandtech review everyone's been talking about shows the Exynos S9's battery life / performance as even worse than last year's Exynos S8. I realize these are synthetic tests, but so far they're the best direct comparison I've got, & I would assume they'd be at least somewhat representative of real-world behavior (though they may i.e. inflate the difference). And *if* these results are indeed representative of what to expect, it feels a bit silly to pay more for a newer phone that's a downgrade in battery life. I've read through a number of threads & seen a pile of individual numbers, but if anyone has some specific experience with a 1:1 Exynos S8 to Exynos S9 comparison, it could be very enlightening. Most of the comparisons I've found on here seem to be Snapdragon vs Exynos.
2) I've also seen some threads that say Exynos S9 is getting really bad speed on T-Mobile (i.e. here). The same user later said in another thread (here) that they were somehow able to get it working better, but that it still has noticeably worse signal than Snapdragon S9. Again, I'd be interested to know if Exynos S8 vs Exynos S9 show similar behavior.
3) Finally, as I live in a weak signal area, T-Mobile WiFi calling is essential. From what I understand it isn't yet possible on Exynos S9, but based on past trends it's pretty safe to assume that at some point someone will figure out how to enable it. It looks like it's currently working on Exynos S8 (reference). Is this accurate?
For the sake of longevity & the centered fingerprint reader I'd obviously prefer the S9...but not *if* it comes at the cost of worse battery, worse T-Mobile signal, & no T-Mobile WiFi calling. The *IF* is what I'd really like to try & determine before pulling the trigger on one or the other
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Off topic- since 2007 I have been flashing and modding my phone's, as they were not even near performance I could get out of. I had the S7 Exynos , than went with S8 and now S9 Snapdeagon. As much as I miss the flashing , the over all performance, the fact it works great out of box, no crap installed by TMO, and Sammi actually doing a decent job, MAYBE it is not a big thing getting the TMO phone.. I'm not sorry I did, and I am a flashoholic..
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As much as I miss the flashing, the over all performance, the fact it works great out of box, no crap installed by TMO, and Sammi actually doing a decent job, MAYBE it is not a big thing getting the TMO phone..
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I'd actually really love to go that route too - but until Android offers a proper "complete" backup, I just don't see how a non-rootable phone is an option. I switched from iPhone not too long ago, bought my first Android phone which had a locked bootloader, & was absolutely baffled by the inability to do a complete device backup. "Complete" as in including all the data of every app, full OS customization, etc - to the point where you can just restore to a new phone & have it completely 100% setup where you left off. I'm not at all a fan of iPhone, but full device backup is something it's offered since...forever...and apparently on Android, the only way to get this is through Titanium. So after spending a few days trying every non-root backup solution I could find, I eventually gave in & returned the phone to be replaced with one that could be rooted.
Beyond full backup, I really don't have interest in flashing/customizing/etc. But until that's resolved natively, it's unfortuately rootable-only for me.
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I'd actually really love to go that route too - but until Android offers a proper "complete" backup, I just don't see how a non-rootable phone is an option. I switched from iPhone not too long ago, bought my first Android phone which had a locked bootloader, & was absolutely baffled by the inability to do a complete device backup. "Complete" as in including all the data of every app, full OS customization, etc - to the point where you can just restore to a new phone & have it completely 100% setup where you left off. I'm not at all a fan of iPhone, but full device backup is something it's offered since...forever...and apparently on Android, the only way to get this is through Titanium. So after spending a few days trying every non-root backup solution I could find, I eventually gave in & returned the phone to be replaced with one that could be rooted.
Beyond full backup, I really don't have interest in flashing/customizing/etc. But until that's resolved natively, it's unfortuately rootable-only for me.
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Well, while a valid point, I have restored only once in 3 years.. and it was not perfect , yet was not a complete disaster. It took less than 40 minutes . I didn't need to restore once on the TMO phones, simply because I did not flash and made my phone unstable. Yes, I know what you mean regarding iPhones. I have 2 more lines and they are used by apple fans in the house. Yet again- iPhone 8 is a bit different than the 6 or 7 were .. things change , and actually improve. If in 2007 I had to actually wtite code (use kitchen) , mod and flash, now days I don't see a need. Did I get old? Maybe, and again, I don't answer your fundamental question , but you may get an unlocked S9 (Snapdragon), root it in few months when available, and enjoy root and TMO CSC.. I can tell you , if I have to choose between battery life and backup, then battery life it is.. I can live with partial backup, I can't with lousy battery life. But- this is me and it may not be good enough for you. Just a different point of view of an old guy..
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I have restored only once in 3 years.. and it was not perfect , yet was not a complete disaster. It took less than 40 minutes . I didn't need to restore once on the TMO phones, simply because I did not flash and made my phone unstable.
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The issue isn't about needing to restore because it's unstable - it's about having a backup of your personal data. Stable or not, phones can get lost/stolen, and will eventually be replaced regardless. Samsung's SmartSync "solution" backs up no app data whatsoever, and other 3rd party non-root backup apps like Helium are spotty at best (for instance, they don't backup any chat history from WhatsApp, Viber, or Line). Currently, my message history in every app I use goes back to the start of when I got my first ever iPhone, many many years ago. Switching to non-root Android would mean nuking it every time I get a new phone. While it truly baffles me that there's no proper/official Android solution & that so many people seem fine with this, in my case, I feel like Titanium is the one & only option (for being able to use Android without risking large chunks of my personal data).
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you may get an unlocked S9 (Snapdragon), root it in few months when available, and enjoy root and TMO CSC.. I can tell you , if I have to choose between battery life and backup, then battery life it is..
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Actually, the previous/first non-rootable Android I mentioned getting was a Snapdragon S7. It technically *was* rootable, but its method of rooting broke the ability to use Secure Startup, in addition to introducing noticeable issues with lag & battery drain. That's why I returned it. It seems like you're suggesting I wait until S9 Snapdragon is rootable as a solution for having root w/ stability+battery life...but my very reason for looking at Exynos in the first place is because the last time I tried rooting a Snapdragon it had pretty bad stability/battery life, & I was pointed in the direction of Exynos.
I was under the impression that an Exynos, due to being unlocked, should be *the* solution for rootable without negatively affecting its battery life...not the other way around.
I have an S8 exynos, I do not have wifi calling. the S8 is a great phone and I do not feel like I'm missing out by going to S9, however if there is a really good deal I would jump ship. The only thing I dont have on my S8 right now is the 960fps camera, otherwise dual stereo speaker and everything else is the same, speed is getting irrelevant up here, I felt the S7 edge was pretty damn fast too, but I gave my family both of those and bought an S8.
I have both Snapdragon and Exynos S9(plus versions). Exynos does not bottom out on T-mobile LTE like S8 Exynos did. I am not a dev but extracted WiFi calling related files from Snapdragon and tried changing the CSC to TMB and got VoLTE to work on Tmobile but I keep getting "com.android.phone has stopped working". I am either missing a setting or it is due to the new /omc partition Samsung introduced for CSCs.
Hopefully Tkkg1994 or someone takes interest into this to get this working. Another huge issue with Exynos is you cannot record any calls with call recording apps due to Samsung removing that feature. I haven't seen any rooted apps that enable call recording on Exynos yet.
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I have an S8 exynos, I do not have wifi calling.
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You mean you tried but were unable to get it working? Or you just didn't feel like you needed it, so couldn't offer input one way or the other (about its availability on S8)?
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the S8 is a great phone and I do not feel like I'm missing out by going to S9
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Right, but in my case I have neither, & am just trying to determine which would be best to go with. If there's no deterioration in performance/battery as the Anandtech article would indicate, I'd obviously prefer the S9 for longer longevity & the other improvements. But if it's actually worse...then...well, that's what I'm trying to figure out.
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I have both Snapdragon and Exynos S9(plus versions). Exynos does not bottom out on T-mobile LTE like S8 Exynos did.
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What do you mean by 'bottom out'?
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Another huge issue with Exynos is you cannot record any calls with call recording apps due to Samsung removing that feature. I haven't seen any rooted apps that enable call recording on Exynos yet.
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Oh crap, that is a serious issue. Ugh, wtf. So you mean it's there in the Snapdragon but for some reason they killed it in the Exynos? Is this true of the S8 too, or just the S9?
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What do you mean by 'bottom out'?
Oh crap, that is a serious issue. Ugh, wtf. So you mean it's there in the Snapdragon but for some reason they killed it in the Exynos? Is this true of the S8 too, or just the S9?
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I meant to say the Exynos S8 has carrier aggregation issues with t-mobile and you'd get less LTE speed than snapdragon. My S9 Exynos runs a lot better on t-mobile LTE.
Yeah Samsung want to be the policing nanny that dictates how one should use their phone. They're going to push the new update to all of their phones including S8 to disable the use of recording apps. I can't believe they want to impose this on everyone despite call recording being legal in many places. For now it works with snapdragon but that may not be the case soon.
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My S9 Exynos runs a lot better on t-mobile LTE.
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Ahh - so just to be clear, you're saying that your S9 Exynos runs a lot better on T-Mobile than your S8 Exynos, right? If so, that definitely sounds like a +1 vote for S9 over the S8.
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Yeah Samsung want to be the policing nanny that dictates how one should use their phone. They're going to push the new update to all of their phones including S8 to disable the use of recording apps.
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Ughh...so now even Samsung is turning into Apple? :silly:
Still, if this is being done entirely via software update, it stands to reason that custom roms would not be affected, right? Which seems to just make the case for Exynos even stronger. Because *if* they do indeed disable this on all their phones, but only Exynos can support custom roms...that would mean that ultimately *only* Exynos would retain call-recording. No?
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Ahh - so just to be clear, you're saying that your S9 Exynos runs a lot better on T-Mobile than your S8 Exynos, right? If so, that definitely sounds like a +1 vote for S9 over the S8.
Ughh...so now even Samsung is turning into Apple? :silly:
Still, if this is being done entirely via software update, it stands to reason that custom roms would not be affected, right? Which seems to just make the case for Exynos even stronger. Because *if* they do indeed disable this on all their phones, but only Exynos can support custom roms...that would mean that ultimately *only* Exynos would retain call-recording. No?
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Yes S9 runs much better on T-mobile's LTE network.
Yep, they're surely turning into Apple of Android... I've bought every galaxy phone since the first but looks like it is time to look elsewhere soon if Samsung starts restricting user choices. Huawei P20 and One plus 6 may give 90% of what Samsung offers.
Actually the call recording apps do not yet work on custom ROMs either. I agree Exynos is safer bet as there's still some chance someone will get call recording working with root and possibly T-mobile wifi calling too...
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Actually the call recording apps do not yet work on custom ROMs either.
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Does that mean on custom roms for the S9 only, or does it apply to the S8 as well?
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Does that mean on custom roms for the S9 only, or does it apply to the S8 as well?
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Call recording apps work on S8 but if you're on Oreo then it will have intermittent issues due to Samsung limiting it in new updates.
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Call recording apps work on S8 but if you're on Oreo then it will have intermittent issues due to Samsung limiting it in new updates.
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Thanks for the confirm. I guess I should probably just disregard this as an S8 vs S9 criteria for now then, because if Samsung is breaking it in software they're likely to do so on both phones eventually - and if it's fixable in software it's likely the xda community will overcome it for both phones eventually too.
Still, the battery life thing is very disconcerting. People in this thread are continuing to post numbers like:
S9: Usage ~14 hours and 5 hours sot
S8: Usage ~20+ hours and 7+ hours sot
If true, that's a *very* big regression...
Personally, the battery life has been more or less the same for me if that helps.
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Personally, the battery life has been more or less the same for me if that helps.
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Hmm, that's good to know, thanks. I guess I'll hold off for at least a few more days & see if there's more of a consensus, as this Anandtech review that started the whole thing is still pretty recent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkNXCK2iVO8
Maybe have to go with snapdragon after all....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkNXCK2iVO8
Maybe have to go with snapdragon after all....
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LTE works fine now after software update he says in his update
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkNXCK2iVO8
Maybe have to go with snapdragon after all....
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I don't get that video. He got the same crappy speeds with snapdragon Note 8. The only difference was the LTE vs HSPA indicator which is likely due to band 71 lacking on exynos. I have both Exynos and snapdragon S9+ phones and haven't noticed any issues. Snapdragon is probably 10-20% faster on LTE and coverage is identical. It is true that exynos lacks band 71 but that's about it.
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I don't get that video. He got the same crappy speeds with snapdragon Note 8. The only difference was the LTE vs HSPA indicator which is likely due to band 71 lacking on exynos. I have both Exynos and snapdragon S9+ phones and haven't noticed any issues. Snapdragon is probably 10-20% faster on LTE and coverage is identical. It is true that exynos lacks band 71 but that's about it.
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So for sure the Exynos is missing Band 71? I was trying to find it but I swear someone posted saying he received his S9 Exynos and confirmed it had b71.
EDIT: Found the thread. I was confusing the Exynos for the US Unlocked version (SD845) https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/s9-9-unlocked-band-71-t-mobile-t3758387/page3
So I just picked up 2 Note10+5Gs from T-Mobile which are on Android 10.
Coming from a OnePlus6T running A10 I had A10 gesture on any Launcher, but on the Note I loose gestures as soon as I switch launchers and set it to default, it will keep gestures as long as is not set to default. The moment I use recents the phone switch back to TouchWiz or whatever is called now.
So here comes the Q.
Is there any way to keep native gestures on a non-stock Launcher? I'm not afraid of adb but not an expert in any way.
To the People who might ask "why did you get a Samsung if you don't like the skin?" Or "if you wanted a pixel why didn't you get one?" I have to say that the hardware is always awesome and cutting edge, their skin is Meh at best. Icons are super girly in my opinion and the themes suck, again, in my opinion.
Any help will be appreciated.
I'm using Nova launcher on my Note 10+ and didn't lose any of the gestures. Not sure what you're observing. Also, if you want to have the same behaviour as Android 10, download "One Hand Operation +" from the Galaxy App Store (part of the Good Lock power tools for Galaxy devices). You can then configure edge swipes to do what you want. I have it configured as back, recent apps and previous app switching depending on the length and direction of swipe. In fact, it's more powerful than Android native gestures so it's best of both worlds.
So, to kinda add to what has been posted here, there's a way to make any Launcher work with Native Samsung Gestures in A10 but involves adb.
This works:
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-...ova-launcher-and-other-third-party-launchers/
Edit: only works until a reboot
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I'm using Nova launcher on my Note 10+ and didn't lose any of the gestures. Not sure what you're observing. Also, if you want to have the same behaviour as Android 10, download "One Hand Operation +" from the Galaxy App Store (part of the Good Lock power tools for Galaxy devices). You can then configure edge swipes to do what you want. I have it configured as back, recent apps and previous app switching depending on the length and direction of swipe. In fact, it's more powerful than Android native gestures so it's best of both worlds.
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This is what I mean:
So first on the top left to the last one.
1. Have One UI selected as default
2, 3, 4. Switch to A10/Samsung Screen Gestures
5. Select my new Launcher.
6. Get a message that nav was changed.
7. Then the option to get gestures is not available, more like a gesture-like nav bar.
I've read some more and apparently it's not even possible but I had up until this morning A10 on my OnePlus6T running a Pixel Launcher (modded) with A10 gestures which were exactly the same as the Samsung Gestures. So, I've had this phone for 3 days and already had several BT disconnections while standing literally 2 feet (61 cm) away from the other device and now this Launcher crap. I absolutely hate Bixby and the fact that you can't disable any Samsung apps.
Very interesting. Is this an official release of Android 10 because I don't think Android 10 is out for the Note 10+ devices. If you're running a beta you really ought to go back to official. Feels silly to say this but you can't harp on a device if you're running unreleased software.
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Very interesting. Is this an official release of Android 10 because I don't think Android 10 is out for the Note 10+ devices. If you're running a beta you really ought to go back to official. Feels silly to say this but you can't harp on a device if you're running unreleased software.
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No man, T-Mobile Note10+5G shipped with Official A10.
See attached
Well would you look at that https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...-5g-t-mobile-will-ship-android-10-out-box?amp
I would not dismiss my point though still. With no official One UI 2.0 for any other Note 10 series devices, you may be dealing with some early adopter woes. Android Pie certainly does not have any limitations on the Note 10+, as I have already pointed out. I would be patient and wait until Android 10 rolls out to other Note 10 series devices before judging things. As it stands right now unfortunately, few folks will be able to help you. Basically nobody has Android 10 on their Note 10 series devices.
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So I just picked up 2 Note10+5Gs from T-Mobile which are on Android 10.
Coming from a OnePlus6T running A10 I had A10 gesture on any Launcher, but on the Note I loose gestures as soon as I switch launchers and set it to default, it will keep gestures as long as is not set to default. The moment I use recents the phone switch back to TouchWiz or whatever is called now.
So here comes the Q.
Is there any way to keep native gestures on a non-stock Launcher? I'm not afraid of adb but not an expert in any way.
To the People who might ask "why did you get a Samsung if you don't like the skin?" Or "if you wanted a pixel why didn't you get one?" I have to say that the hardware is always awesome and cutting edge, their skin is Meh at best. Icons are super girly in my opinion and the themes suck, again, in my opinion.
Any help will be appreciated.
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One of the things I've found within the first couple days of using this phone is that gestures are locked to Samsung's launcher, particularly the recent apps gesture. I do not want to use the Samsung launcher but is forced to because it has to keep running in the background in order to have this gesture (is a waste of resources to have 2 launchers running at the same time).
I read somewhere that Google will take this away from them in the next OS update.
About bixby, you will have to use an app blocker if you don't use it or don't want I running in the background. I use package disabler pro (bought from their website not from the app store), you can also use ccswe. But package disabler pro can disable all and every app, ccswe cannot do this in order for them to stay in the play store.
I've been a devoted Note user since the Note 2, upgrade pretty much day 1 on every release but I've found. I've noticed that Samsung has been slowly taking away some feature while locking others. They've lied about screen size/real-estate, battery, removing and locking the ability to track battery usage. I honestly feeling this will be my last Note device until Samsung start doing the right things again.
It's funny to see how different folks react to things in a different way. In my opinion, the Note 10+ is not only the best Note device Samsung produced to date, but the best device Samsung produced to date, period. I have had prior Note devices as well, either because I've owned them or had an opportunity to use them and the Note 10+ to me feels and functions as well as the Note 7 did for its time. We all know what happened to the 7 unfortunately and what followed the next two years was absolute crap. Samsung was conservative because they were scared. Note 10+ returned to what made the Note series great - huge screen, big battery life, beefy specs. I have the S10+ and the Note 10+ is a far better, and significantly better performing device. This despite the fact that they are built on the same basic platform. I am yet to find a flaw on it, but I see plenty on the S10+. Not sure if something is different about the 5G device or whether the software is just really that immature to lead to the dissatisfaction you are describing.
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It's funny to see how different folks react to things in a different way. In my opinion, the Note 10+ is not only the best Note device Samsung produced to date, but the best device Samsung produced to date, period. I have had prior Note devices as well, either because I've owned them or had an opportunity to use them and the Note 10+ to me feels and functions as well as the Note 7 did for its time. We all know what happened to the 7 unfortunately and what followed the next two years was absolute crap. Samsung was conservative because they were scared. Note 10+ returned to what made the Note series great - huge screen, big battery life, beefy specs. I have the S10+ and the Note 10+ is a far better, and significantly better performing device. This despite the fact that they are built on the same basic platform. I am yet to find a flaw on it, but I see plenty on the S10+. Not sure if something is different about the 5G device or whether the software is just really that immature to lead to the dissatisfaction you are describing.
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Me exact thoughts! I've had almost every note made as well as the S10 e, S10 plus. The note 10 plus I have is way better than the S10 plus period.
I guess there's no discussion about how good Note10+ is over every other Note before it, is good to clear that out.
Now, here's the deal, I'm not a fan of any brand of any product, I'm almost picky about the food I buy and clothing, sure. I had a Galaxy S2, then S5. And then a Nexus 6, the best phone by far including every other phone after it, which I used for 2 years. Then a LG G6. Then an S9 (which I kinda loved/hated the same way I do this one) that I gave to my daughter and got me a OnePlus6T, the closest to rank next to Shamu.
So as you can read it's not like I hate the brand or anything like that, I hate how Samsung adds so much makeup to Android that it doesn't feel like Android. The Screen Gestures, as I mentioned before, is a Android 10 problem that I didn't seem to have on my 6T, but all that Bixby crap and the way the icons look and how their themes suck so bad, it's like a bunch of Korean 12 year olds put them together. It's just the way Samsung makes what should be a great experience as I had with the 6T on A10 feel like bloated and opaque.
My wife and daughter loves it thought so I guess I got that going for me. I'm getting money back for both my S9s which I'll use to pay for the phone and sell it as fast as I can.
For example, My Nexus 6 had most of the amenities or features that this phone has, obviously the camera technology and fingerprint scanning had advanced greatly, and no stylus but wireless charging, face unlock, you name it, it had it plus Google security patches monthly for 3 years and a still ongoing Dev community... I mean, it even use the same microsim.
So you see, it might be faster and everything but the Samsung skin is pretty awful in my opinion and I had just forgotten how much I hated the Bixby crap, I was very happy with the lack of a dedicated Bixby button thinking stuff might be better but is worst.
I hear you for sure. Unfortunately I also don't have much to add to the discussion. I currently don't have Android 10 and won't get access to it for another month or so probably. I expect a January release for Android 10 for the Note 10+ broadly. Maybe when one of the fellow members rocking the 5G version get theirs they might be able to help more. Sorry I couldn't help beyond providing some info earlier in the thread.
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I hear you for sure. Unfortunately I also don't have much to add to the discussion. I currently don't have Android 10 and won't get access to it for another month or so probably. I expect a January release for Android 10 for the Note 10+ broadly. Maybe when one of the fellow members rocking the 5G version get theirs they might be able to help more. Sorry I couldn't help beyond providing some info earlier in the thread.
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It's all good. No need to say that, you did offer an option which I appreciate.
Look in your accessibility settings. There is something enabled that is causing your issue.
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Look in your accessibility settings. There is something enabled that is causing your issue.
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Nah, there's nothing active there bc I don't use none of that plus is also not something brought in from migrating to this phone since I started fresh on this phone.
As I wrote before, I read it is tied to A10 not allowing gestures on 3rd party launchers but it worked fine on my OnePlus6T.
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It's funny to see how different folks react to things in a different way. In my opinion, the Note 10+ is not only the best Note device Samsung produced to date, but the best device Samsung produced to date, period. I have had prior Note devices as well, either because I've owned them or had an opportunity to use them and the Note 10+ to me feels and functions as well as the Note 7 did for its time. We all know what happened to the 7 unfortunately and what followed the next two years was absolute crap. Samsung was conservative because they were scared. Note 10+ returned to what made the Note series great - huge screen, big battery life, beefy specs. I have the S10+ and the Note 10+ is a far better, and significantly better performing device. This despite the fact that they are built on the same basic platform. I am yet to find a flaw on it, but I see plenty on the S10+. Not sure if something is different about the 5G device or whether the software is just really that immature to lead to the dissatisfaction you are describing.
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That's great @dhorgas, not trying to knock what you've said or how you feel about your device in any way but I guess it's a subjective thing. I know what I paid for, I know what they told me about the device and I know what I got. You are clearly contented with what you got and that's OK.
The build quality on the N10 is exceptional, I don't think anyone can say otherwise but saying the N10 is significantly better performing than the S10 is nothing more than your bias showing in the face of all the comparison speed tests widely available. Significant? No. Exaggeration? Very much so. By the way just letting you know colors are better on the S10 screen than the Note 10 but that's neither here nor there. Performance is not a Samsung thing, it's Qualcomm. You shouldn't be giving Samsung credit for things they didn't do.
My few gripes with the phone might not be significant to you in any way. By themselves they're pretty small but together they're hard to overlook in in my day to day usage.
1) Screen size, they lied but didn't lie. Screen is correct 6.8" but actual screen real-estate is 6.5", almost the same as on my N9 which is 6.4" in immersive mode. There is no immersive mode on the N10. They artificially blocked it by having a semi-static banner there. Not a hardware problem, just a conscious decision made by Samsung as if they know how best I should use my phone. I was duped into thinking I would have a bigger screen to use.
2) The screen color are horrible, their choice of pixel color was a bad choice in my book. Now the screen has an even more reddish tint than even the N9.
3a) Battery size. They plain lied about this one. Some people might be fine with this, others might think they know all about how batteries work and will proceed to defend the company's actions.
I remember when they use to show mAh usage for all apps, they removed that. Now they have battery size mAh disclaimers? I'm getting the feeling it was a conscious decision to F us on the battery.
3b) battery tracking is petty much locked. when they removed mAh view they locked full tracking, why? Because they were getting ready to F us on the battery, that's why.
4) Gesture lock. What they did is lock the recent app gesture into their crappy launcher. You'd have to have it constantly running with full access to the device in the background in order to have full gesture while using a different launcher. Just like they use to lock gallery with a different app so if you should disable it then gallery wouldn't work.
With Android 10 we should at least have control of gestures which is a good thing for consumers like myself. But the road I see Samsung going down is a road I don't feel I should be investing my money, not like my money will be of any significance to them in any way shape or form but at least I want to feel comfortable when spending my money.
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4) Gesture lock. What they did is lock the recent app gesture into their crappy launcher. You'd have to have it constantly running with full access to the device in the background in order to have full gesture while using a different launcher. Just like they use to lock gallery with a different app so if you should disable it then gallery wouldn't work.
With Android 10 we should at least have control of gestures which is a good thing for consumers like myself. But the road I see Samsung going down is a road I don't feel I should be investing my money, not like my money will be of any significance to them in any way shape or form but at least I want to feel comfortable when spending my money.
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The gesture issue isn't a Samsung move. The same issue exists in other Android 10 devices in regards to third party launchers.
https://ww.9to5google.com/2019/11/12/android-10-gestures-launchers/
The problem is with Google's code, not to say Samsung couldn't fix it and flow the changes back into the base but that could take longer to get approved than to just let Google fix it and flow it up.
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The gesture issue isn't a Samsung move. The same issue exists in other Android 10 devices in regards to third party launchers.
https://ww.9to5google.com/2019/11/12/android-10-gestures-launchers/
The problem is with Google's code, not to say Samsung couldn't fix it and flow the changes back into the base but that could take longer to get approved than to just let Google fix it and flow it up.
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No, no that's a separate issue. What I'm talking about is on Android 9 running on Note 10, not Android 10 beta. If you fully disable Samsung's One UI launcher then you will lose the recent app gesture. No error no warning. If I should use a different launcher then I would have to keep the Samsung launcher also running using up resources even though I'm not using it.
I usually go full immersive, no status bar, until I need it, no navigation bar. Full gesture. And now Samsung is artificially preventing people who wants to use their phones that from doing so.
Why is this on my note 10+ in settings and does it work
This has been discussed before, No, it doesn't do anything on our phone...
Just a placebo effect...
Lazy coding by Samsung as it was brought over from the S20 series where it does do something, hence it is "hidden" in our firmware...
But feel free to try it out....
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This has been discussed before, No, it doesn't do anything on our phone...
Just a placebo effect...
Lazy coding by Samsung as it was brought over from the S20 series where it does do something, hence it is "hidden" in our firmware...
But feel free to try it out....
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Sad but true. It's a cruel joke from Samsung, a tease.
Samsung could have made the Note 10+ forward compatible for the variable refresh rates seen on their new Note 20 Ultra.
That would have been the customer friendly thing to do. Denon's been doing that for over a decade with their flagship receivers; hardware and software upgrades.
Samsung may customization friendly but it's far from consumer friendly... this coming from the world's leading OLED manufacturer.
Really?
Why reward Samsung by upgrading to the expensive Note 20 U for variable display rates when the also very expensive Note 10+ should have been software upgradable?
Lame Samsung.
yeah as said it's just code left locked out in the back end of the firmware from being ported from devices with the option for it.
it's fairly common for stuff like this to be left in the code but just blanked from view as it is often easier than totally removing the code.
I was just snooping around trying to see if I can find ims settings to see if the video chat icon would appear on my contact again but its not there and I found the this idk why samsung disabled that icon
yeah it's likely the hardware in the Note 10+ can't support the 120hz as it's not as simple as just software, LCD and such prior was at the point it could do more than the developer set it for, but OLED even from Samsung is still in its infancy compared to LCD panels, so it is highly likely that the hardware is limited and stopping it from working. also likely why the 120hz only works with 1080 on the devices that can use it.
How Old is youre firmware ?
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How Old is youre firmware ?
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It's on the latest firmware
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the option appeared with oneUI 2.1 hidden away in the back end because it was ported from the S20 down to the 10 series and rather than remove the code entirely they just hid away the option as it did nothing.
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This has been discussed before, No, it doesn't do anything on our phone...
Just a placebo effect...
Lazy coding by Samsung as it was brought over from the S20 series where it does do something, hence it is "hidden" in our firmware...
But feel free to try it out....
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yeah it's likely the hardware in the Note 10+ can't support the 120hz as it's not as simple as just software, LCD and such prior was at the point it could do more than the developer set it for, but OLED even from Samsung is still in its infancy compared to LCD panels, so it is highly likely that the hardware is limited and stopping it from working. also likely why the 120hz only works with 1080 on the devices that can use it.
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The Note 10 hardware can't support a refresh higher than 60hz. Samsung could have hardware supported it if they had choose too*.
It been a righteous gesture...
In the future because of the bluetooth chipset fail on the Note 10+ I will scrutinize future purchases from Samsung much more closely.
Samsung and/or their carrier partners also have a history of invalid spec claims in the past with audio specs.
Sucks spending big bucks when Samsung skimped less than a buck or two per unit for 2* available leading edge chipsets.
Not what you expect on Samsung flagship product.
Many reviewers stated that this Note was not targeted for performance users as it had been in the past. The memory certainly is but not the display refresh rate or bt.
Caveat emptor...
*It's possible they were forced to use the ones they did because of the hardware platform they were using.
No other phone has 12gb RAM and 1.5 tb storage capacity of the Note 10+ with 120 hz refresh from that design cycle that I'm aware of.
XDA's own article on the subject: Google adds new Ultra-Wideband settings toggle to Pixel 6 Pro
My original link:
Pixel 6 Pro gets settings toggle to disable Ultra-Wideband (UWB)
Abner Li - Jan. 2nd 2022 8:00 am @technacity
With the December (2021) Feature Drop, Google enabled the first use case for Ultra-Wideband (UWB) on the Pixel 6 Pro. As part of this, there’s now a settings toggle to enable/disable the chip.
Ultra-Wideband on the Pixel 6 Pro allows for “accurate ranging and spatial orientation.” Last month’s update upgraded Nearby Share so that “you can quickly find nearby UWB devices to share with through the highlighted arc right on your screen.”
Down the road, UWB will aid digital car keys, which today only work with NFC and a physical tap to the vehicle’s door handle. When this is enabled — as Google previewed at I/O 2021, you won’t even have to take your phone out.
The “Ultra-Wideband (UWB)” toggle can be accessed from the Settings app > Connected devices > Connection preferences. It appears at the very bottom of the page underneath “Android Auto” and is curiously not accompanied by an icon like every other menu item above it.
Meanwhile, UWB is automatically disabled when you’re in Airplane mode and cannot be turned on independently.
The December update’s OTA rollout has of course been pulled due to dropped calls. As such, most users will see the UWB-enhanced Nearby Share, along with nearly a hundred fixes, later this month via the January security patch.
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This has the feeling of one of those gimmicky features like "bumping" phones to share contact.
Orientation and ranging are existing Bluetooth 5.1 (LE) features. You don't need new hardware for that.
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This has the feeling of one of those gimmicky features like "bumping" phones to share contact.
Orientation and ranging are existing Bluetooth 5.1 (LE) features. You don't need new hardware for that.
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it is more for digital car keys etc.
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it is more for digital car keys etc.
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Which, obviously, could be implemented with Bluetooth, probably more securely.
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Which, obviously, could be implemented with Bluetooth, probably more securely.
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Thats a bit like saying you didn't need 5G because 4G works, there are many articles explaining the benefits and disadvantages of UWB, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi on a case by case basis but one thing is clear and that is UWB is more accurate, more secure and has so much more bandwidth.
Any battery improvement switching it off?
At least it seems like it drains battery in S21, googled it..
96carboard said:
Which, obviously, could be implemented with Bluetooth, probably more securely.
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On the contrary, UWB is much more secure than Bluetooth. UWB provides much more accurate measurements of the fob’s distance through a process known as “ranging,” down to just a few centimetres, as compared to a few metres for Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and other technologies. In addition, it has stronger security because of its physical layer (PHY), making it immune to MITM attacks that have plagued Bluetooth fobs.
MrBelter said:
Thats a bit like saying you didn't need 5G because 4G works, there are many articles explaining the benefits and disadvantages of UWB, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi on a case by case basis but one thing is clear and that is UWB is more accurate, more secure and has so much more bandwidth.
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Yeah, gimmick.
Thanks, disabled it now.
96carboard said:
Yeah, gimmick.
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So the massively increased capacity of 5G over 4G is a gimmick?
MrBelter said:
So the massively increased capacity of 5G over 4G is a gimmick?
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Nothing to do with 5g/4g/etc.
96carboard said:
Nothing to do with 5g/4g/etc.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-toggle-to-pixel-6-pro.4382879/#post-86198193
After disabling UWB batt is better. I don't have a S21 to compare.
MrBelter said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-toggle-to-pixel-6-pro.4382879/#post-86198193
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Let me make this more clear to you... UWB is NOT "5G". UWB is a competitor to BT-LE.