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[Q] Should I wait for this to come to AT&T? (If ever)

Or should I just buy it at full price unlocked. I heard an "AT&T" version passed through the FCC but 1. Is that really an AT&T version? Some people said it may be some Canadian or Australian carrier. and 2. It may just never come out anyway. I'd just be pissed if I paid $750 then it comes to AT&T and I could've saved $500. You think there's actually a chance of it coming to AT&T (this decade)? What would you do in this situation?

It probably is coming to AT&T according to the latest FCC filings. http://www.techieinsider.com/news/12988

Guster730 said:
Or should I just buy it at full price unlocked. I heard an "AT&T" version passed through the FCC but 1. Is that really an AT&T version? Some people said it may be some Canadian or Australian carrier. and 2. It may just never come out anyway. I'd just be pissed if I paid $750 then it comes to AT&T and I could've saved $500. You think there's actually a chance of it coming to AT&T (this decade)? What would you do in this situation?
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You should be able to get a better plan if you use a unlocked phone. At least I did with t-mobile.

FWIW I talked to some guys at a corporate location and they do not think AT&T will be picking up the Nexus.
They said they've haven't heard any rumors/rumblings internally of any kind about getting it and that they've never carried a Nexus before and don't see why this one would be any different.
:/ Just relaying about inquiring about it. I went ahead and got a intl. unlock myself.

AT&T stores never carried a Nexus phone, but customers could get a subsidized Nexus S for AT&T from Best Buy.

Just grab one an enjoy. Live a little.

Guster730 said:
Or should I just buy it at full price unlocked. I heard an "AT&T" version passed through the FCC but 1. Is that really an AT&T version? Some people said it may be some Canadian or Australian carrier. and 2. It may just never come out anyway. I'd just be pissed if I paid $750 then it comes to AT&T and I could've saved $500. You think there's actually a chance of it coming to AT&T (this decade)? What would you do in this situation?
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If you have the money I'd just buy it outright. Especially if when it comes to AT&T you'll be buying it full price anyways. You won't be saving that much and you'll be able to have the phone now, which is worth something for sure.
I don't know about later on, but AT&T definitely isn't getting this phone before the end of the year. It's all Verizon right now. So even if you're sure its coming to AT&T (who knows?) you can still buy it now knowing you're getting it months earlier.

martonikaj said:
If you have the money I'd just buy it outright. Especially if when it comes to AT&T you'll be buying it full price anyways. You won't be saving that much and you'll be able to have the phone now, which is worth something for sure.
I don't know about later on, but AT&T definitely isn't getting this phone before the end of the year. It's all Verizon right now. So even if you're sure its coming to AT&T (who knows?) you can still buy it now knowing you're getting it months earlier.
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I mean I'd buy it subsidized off AT&T and it'd probably be like $300 at most. This is a really tough decision.

I ended up using my upgrade to get an HTC Vivid for $75 then sold it for $400 and just put the $325 profit toward the Nexus. I'd say just go for it. This phone is a beast.

buy it now. save your upgrade. dont sign a contract. in 6 months+ when something better comes out, cuz you know it will, you will still have your upgrade.

Tytanius said:
It probably is coming to AT&T according to the latest FCC filings. [/QUOTE]
Wrong. That one is also a...his year and that is a Bell Canada exclusive.
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cpcrazyfly said:
buy it now. save your upgrade. dont sign a contract. in 6 months+ when something better comes out, cuz you know it will, you will still have your upgrade.
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thats what i did. I'll use my upgrade on the next big lte phone

The FCC doesn't approve devices for Canada and Australia.
The device that passed doesn't have the 900 Mhz, which has been causing problems on the unlocked GSM phone.. So that's one reason to wait for it. Another is if it does in fact come officially to AT&T, the price will drop significantly. Also, buying devices on the grey market is not for the faint of heart, I've got a Nexus S with the search button bug and Negri/Samsung/Google don't care because they don't have to.
In all likelihood you will see a late January/early February release of this phone and smart money is waiting

I'm on at&t as well and am waiting for one of 2 things. Either for it to come to at&t directly or for a significant price drop. I don't have a problem picking up the international version because when you turn around and sell it you'll likely get more since it can be used on any gsm carrier. The one major thing i'm waiting to find out though is if there are any plans to release a 32gb gsm version.

I didn't want to wait for the "next" big phone, so I just found the most expensive/free phone on at&t, used my upgrade to get it, then sold the phone on ebay...I picked up the HTC Titan for free at Best Buy on Cyber Monday, sold it for ~$500 and now have the Nexus Galaxy for cool $250 (what it would probably cost if it ever came to at&t).
...additionally I am selling my Nexus S and hoping to get a couple hundred and making the NG almost free.
Anyways, if you have an upgrade and don't mind the contract, just get the best deal on a phone you can sell...it's the only way I could have ever afforded my original N1, my i9020A NS and now GS.

crachel said:
The FCC doesn't approve devices for Canada and Australia.
The device that passed doesn't have the 900 Mhz, which has been causing problems on the unlocked GSM phone.. So that's one reason to wait for it. Another is if it does in fact come officially to AT&T, the price will drop significantly. Also, buying devices on the grey market is not for the faint of heart, I've got a Nexus S with the search button bug and Negri/Samsung/Google don't care because they don't have to.
In all likelihood you will see a late January/early February release of this phone and smart money is waiting
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You're actually wrong. The FCC checks all devices that could be used in the US. i9000t https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1303821
i9100t http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-passes-fcc-muster
i9250m https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1586317
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19919999
19000T and i9100T went to Telus/Rogers in Canada and the i9250m went to Bell Canada. i9250m was the first GSN to pass the FCC and it's on sale this week exclusively from Virgin Mobile/Bell Canada.

I thought the same for rogers... paid way too much for mine. Couldn't care less... best purchase of 2011 for me personally.
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crachel said:
The FCC doesn't approve devices for Canada and Australia.
The device that passed doesn't have the 900 Mhz, which has been causing problems on the unlocked GSM phone.. So that's one reason to wait for it. Another is if it does in fact come officially to AT&T, the price will drop significantly. Also, buying devices on the grey market is not for the faint of heart, I've got a Nexus S with the search button bug and Negri/Samsung/Google don't care because they don't have to.
In all likelihood you will see a late January/early February release of this phone and smart money is waiting
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The FCC reviews any device that could be used in the US.
Also, the volume "bug" is tied to 900mhz, but even if your device has the 900mhz frequency enabled in the hardware, it has nothing to do with whether or not you'll experience the bug. The problem arises when you actually use 900mhz. So even those of you who imported a GN to the US have 900mhz hardware, you're never going to use it on AT&T (850mhz) or T-mobile (1800).

I'm on AT&T and my Galaxy Nexus just arrived at my house from Expansys today.
I'm glad I went ahead and got it though it was well worth it now that I have it in my hands.
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Pixel Phone on Verizon

So with the Pixel phone being sold through Verizon here in the US, do you think this phone will be fully unlocked if bought from them?

Wow, that is expensive... and sold out...
Didn't get one, but want the 128 GB (though I wish they offered a 64GB).
Add the protection plan for another $100, sitting at close to $1000!
Holy cow... I am going to need to sell a kidney.
-J

scrillakev said:
So with the Pixel phone being sold through Verizon here in the US, do you think this phone will be fully unlocked if bought from them?
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Being it's Verizon I would say very likely but I am sure it will get cracked at least until new updates remember this is Verizon your talking about they love to be in control of things that they have no right to be. Easy fix don't buy from Verizon buy from Google or if you can buy from HTC as they will treat you better in the long run like the $100 in free accessories they gave the HTC 10 buyers after we got an extra free USB-C charge cable months before and maybe uh oh protection might be included too but that is hoping lol.

Is there any downsides from purchasing from google vs Verizon? Will we get access to the same LTE bands, etc.?
In the past, have google versions of phones have come with unlocked bootloaders but verizon come with locked versions of the same devices?

No1ustad said:
Is there any downsides from purchasing from google vs Verizon? Will we get access to the same LTE bands, etc.?
In the past, have google versions of phones have come with unlocked bootloaders but verizon come with locked versions of the same devices?
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Given the way the past Nexus devices (that included support for Verizon and were eventually sold through them) the answer is no. They use the exact same hardware presumably. But until we start seeing model numbers confirmed it could be a possibility. But the unlocked version will support Verizon and it will have Google as your main access for support (which has been good to some people in the past).
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Jsunn said:
Wow, that is expensive... and sold out...
Didn't get one, but want the 128 GB (though I wish they offered a 64GB).
Add the protection plan for another $100, sitting at close to $1000!
Holy cow... I am going to need to sell a kidney.
-J
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Keep trying and clicking in different orders. Like adding the 128GB before the color, size, etc. I managed to snag one that way. BE PERSISTENT!

M9guy said:
Being it's Verizon I would say very likely but I am sure it will get cracked at least until new updates remember this is Verizon your talking about they love to be in control of things that they have no right to be. Easy fix don't buy from Verizon buy from Google or if you can buy from HTC as they will treat you better in the long run like the $100 in free accessories they gave the HTC 10 buyers after we got an extra free USB-C charge cable months before and maybe uh oh protection might be included too but that is hoping lol.
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The only reason I'd consider buying it straight from Verizon is because it would be added onto my bill in which my job would end up paying for my phone. If I buy it from the PlayStore i'd have to buy it on my own.
I think I'm going to end up with a Note 7.

scrillakev said:
The only reason I'd consider buying it straight from Verizon is because it would be added onto my bill in which my job would end up paying for my phone. If I buy it from the PlayStore i'd have to buy it on my own.
I think I'm going to end up with a Note 7.
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I'm in that boat as well, work will pay for my phone if I get it through Verizon. Here's hoping that I can in some way sell the Verizon phone NIB and buy the unlocked one.

If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.

bsg411 said:
If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.
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Pre-order either Pixel model from today through October 19th and Verizon will send you a redemption code for a free Daydream view.
Will likely be bootloader locked.

bsg411 said:
If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.
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All I see on their web site is the payment plan and the option to pay full retail price and I looked all over Verizon's web site and I cannot see the contract option for either pixel phone. Can you provide a link to where you found it please, thanks.

That bootloader lock kills the deal
.. guess my nexus 6 lives on
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M9guy said:
All I see on their web site is the payment plan and the option to pay full retail price and I looked all over Verizon's web site and I cannot see the contract option for either pixel phone. Can you provide a link to where you found it please, thanks.
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My coworker told me about the 2 year promo...I didn't actually see it myself. He is currently at the end if a 2 year promo so maybe that has something to do with it??

Oh that's it. Anyone on a contract can keep getting new contracts like that. But new customers cannot get a contract from Verizon directly. You can still get service through Verizon with a new contract and subsidised phone you just have to purchase the Verizon service through dealers like best buy and target I know they both list new Verizon service with a contract where you get the phone subsidised instead of a payment plan or paying full retail price for the phone.
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stinger4321 said:
That bootloader lock kills the deal
.. guess my nexus 6 lives on
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Someone will probably figure out a way to unlock it. You could just wait it out and you might get a better deal waiting also.

Android police has already confirmed the verizon bootloader will be locked.

moosc said:
Android police has already confirmed the verizon bootloader will be locked.
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What he said!!

TechBSwift said:
What he said!!
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I wouldn't be too worried Dev's enjoy pissing off Big Red I'm sure it'll be cracked.

Virus1x said:
I wouldn't be too worried Dev's enjoy pissing off Big Red I'm sure it'll be cracked.
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Yeah, but it took well over a year to unlock the verizon S5 (at least. I hadn't looked for another year, so it might have been over 2). It'll be cracked Eventually but how long will it take

I'm not too worried about the bootloader being locked as I've stopped rooting my phones and flashing ROMS but I just need to know if the Verizon model has all the bands to work properly on t-mobile. I have 2 sims and need to confirm this.

Bootloader is definitely locked. Saw this question/answer on the VZW Page this morning for the Pixel XL.

I just preordered the pixel xl from best buy and extended my contract with Verizon. Does anybody know if the version they carry is the same as Verizon's or the unlocked version in the play store?
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honest opinion please.

I am on the verge of purchasing this phone from Verizon but I am just wondering do you guys think that the devs will be able to unlock the boot loader?. Or is it highly unlikely?

You should buy it from Google Store, that's an honest opinion.

egren58 said:
I am on the verge of purchasing this phone from Verizon but I am just wondering do you guys think that the devs will be able to unlock the boot loader?. Or is it highly unlikely?
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I would say no but maybe one day

egren58 said:
I am on the verge of purchasing this phone from Verizon but I am just wondering do you guys think that the devs will be able to unlock the boot loader?. Or is it highly unlikely?
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Highly unlikely I would guess. I think you can get it from the google store tho and have it activated on verizon network still, from what I have read. That version would come ready to be unlocked.

frch0603 said:
Highly unlikely I would guess. I think you can get it from the google store tho and have it activated on verizon network still, from what I have read. That version would come ready to be unlocked.
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I am not even on Verizon . lol I'm on tmbile but Google rep said about a month until they go back up for sale. There is one on craiglist for 1,000$ for 32 GB idk if I should make the move or not.

egren58 said:
I am not even on Verizon . lol I'm on tmbile but Google rep said about a month until they go back up for sale. There is one on craiglist for 1,000$ for 32 GB idk if I should make the move or not.
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I definitely would not buy the Verizon one with the expectation of using it on any carrier besides verizon.

frch0603 said:
I definitely would not buy the Verizon one with the expectation of using it on any carrier besides verizon.
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Is factory unlocked from my end

Negotiating a 32gb google edition..

frch0603 said:
I definitely would not buy the Verizon one with the expectation of using it on any carrier besides verizon.
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Why wouldn't you buy a "Verizon version with expectation of using it on another carrier"?
I bought a Verizon version last night from Best Buy (im not really worried about unlocking the bootloader at this point. Been doing it for years lol ) and put my T-Mobile sim card in and it worked immediately.
All these Google Pixel phones are carrier unlocked. Every single one. The only difference is that the Verizon version currently cannot be Bootloader unlocked, but I'm sure it will someday.

I would say buy from google if you really want to have an unlocked bootloader. I wont say it will never be unlocked but i think there will be very few working on it for the simple fact that you can buy an unlocked version. I would have bought it from google but it was more cost effective for me to buy it from Verizon.

Honest opinion = It is highly unlikely!

Most likely not since there is an google verison that comes with an unlocked bootloader for the same price.

I'm with verizon but bought it from the Google store. I am thinking about switching carriers sometime soon so I don't want to be stuck with monthly payments from Verizon on a device that won't be used on their carrier. That's why I did Google finance. Plus I already give too much money to Verizon each month. Bootloader being unlocked or not doesn't bother me but some people will want root and one day I may root and I want that option.

Yeahci will just wait till its available again. I'm on tmobile and I will never leave. Lol I only pay 50$ for unlimited everything

egren58 said:
Yeahci will just wait till its available again. I'm on tmobile and I will never leave. Lol I only pay 50$ for unlimited everything
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Same here. My wife is on Verizon and I looked at adding a line. If I buy it outright (pixel xl) I don't get the big credit for my V10, only fair market value and I don't get the free data bump either. At the end of the day, staying with T-Mobile with unlimited data just makes sense

TheFuzz said:
Same here. My wife is on Verizon and I looked at adding a line. If I buy it outright (pixel xl) I don't get the big credit for my V10, only fair market value and I don't get the free data bump either. At the end of the day, staying with T-Mobile with unlimited data just makes sense
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Yeah man ilove being grandfather in. I scanned a copy of my original contract, and a few times they tried to switch my plans to the new jump and I was like nope I have a SIGNED contract. Lol LOVE IT!! also I can't get throttle after using 20+ gigs of data.

Never buy a phone for what it MIGHT do in the future.
If you need root/unlocked bootloader buy a phone that already has that.
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So I will let the hypedye down now I'll just stick to 7.1.1 on the 6p. And than I'll sell my 6p and op3 to buy the xl in the coming months.

It seems there are too many Verizon models running around now that somehow came with an unlockable bootloader.... makes me think there is a better chance at the devs finding a way. Mostly just a hunch but....
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Will an at&t sim in verizon model prevent software updates?

dead community?

im just wondering if there is anyone still trying to find a way to unlock the bootloader or root the xt1635 01, i have had the phone for months and refuse to update it in case a working root method comes out for a specific update. the phone is starting to slow down and android isn't the same to me without root. along with that, verizon and all the stupid bloatware are still a huge issue for me. (even though it always has been) i want to know if development has stopped or not, if it has, i plan to buy the moto x4 or wait until the x5 comes out and will be making sure it is factor unlocked. #verizonsucks

Verizon does suck, don't think there will ever be an unlock for the 01.

i like to spread the blame, motorola sucks too on this front.

teerout said:
i like to spread the blame, motorola sucks too on this front.
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How so? They offer a simple, manufacturer supported unlocking tool for basically every device, except those locked down by carrier request...

teerout said:
i like to spread the blame, motorola sucks too on this front.
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It's not Motorola's policy, it's carrier's policy. They are afraid if you unlock their phone, you will be using another carrier's sim card. I always avoid buying from carrier since I bought my very first blackberry.

DonnyWhite said:
It's not Motorola's policy, it's carrier's policy. They are afraid if you unlock their phone, you will be using another carrier's sim card. I always avoid buying from carrier since I bought my very first blackberry.
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The funny part is, for example, a Verizon Moto e4 prepaid can be had for very little money (got my daughter's brand new on sale at Target for $40 a while back). It will likely never be bootloader unlocked or rooted - which would have fairly little to do with the users choice of carrier. However, for a couple bucks on eBay there are carrier unlock codes for it - bye bye Verizon, your $40 phone works just fine on my ATT postpaid SIM...

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The funny part is, for example, a Verizon Moto e4 prepaid can be had for very little money (got my daughter's brand new on sale at Target for $40 a while back). It will likely never be bootloader unlocked or rooted - which would have fairly little to do with the users choice of carrier. However, for a couple bucks on eBay there are carrier unlock codes for it - bye bye Verizon, your $40 phone works just fine on my ATT postpaid SIM...
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I still remember the days where you didn't have to have the bootloader unlocked, you just needed a bootstrap, those were the days

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The funny part is, for example, a Verizon Moto e4 prepaid can be had for very little money (got my daughter's brand new on sale at Target for $40 a while back). It will likely never be bootloader unlocked or rooted - which would have fairly little to do with the users choice of carrier. However, for a couple bucks on eBay there are carrier unlock codes for it - bye bye Verizon, your $40 phone works just fine on my ATT postpaid SIM...
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That make sense. For $40 I'd deal with carrier, but not for $500 ones. It is just about preference & experience. I had some bad experience with carrier so for me it's a no no.
And my point is that I will never buy a carrier's phone, that is for me and should you? That's your decision to make.

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That make sense. For $40 I'd deal with carrier, but not for $500 ones. It is just about preference & experience. I had some bad experience with carrier so for me it's a no no.
And my point is that I will never buy a carrier's phone, that is for me and should you? That's your decision to make.
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Agreed. I finally got sick of locked down phones as ATT got worse about it. Had root and unlock on my Aria, S2 and LGOG that were ATT branded, but after my S6 and the crap with that, went the unbranded route. Still with ATT, but having the option to walk as soon as a better deal comes along is nice.
Sucks coming up with cash upfront for a phone, but mid rangers are good enough for me now, so not as bad as it could be.

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Agreed. I finally got sick of locked down phones as ATT got worse about it. Had root and unlock on my Aria, S2 and LGOG that were ATT branded, but after my S6 and the crap with that, went the unbranded route. Still with ATT, but having the option to walk as soon as a better deal comes along is nice.
Sucks coming up with cash upfront for a phone, but mid rangers are good enough for me now, so not as bad as it could be.
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Man, couldn't agree more on that. I think we are gone too far out of topic. Time to disappear
Conclusion is, you're more likely will not be able to unlock bootloader on that phone. Bye bye magisk

Unlock moto g7 play

So I made the mistake of buying a phone from eBay. It's a Boost Mobile phone on Moto G7 play of course. Is there a way to unlock this thing. I really need my phone service with this coronavirus crap going on. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Heruktiang said:
So I made the mistake of buying a phone from eBay. It's a Boost Mobile phone on Moto G7 play of course. Is there a way to unlock this thing. I really need my phone service with this coronavirus crap going on. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Contact Boost Mobile and ask if they can unlock it for you.
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sd_shadow said:
Contact Boost Mobile and ask if they can unlock it for you.
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They said they need the previous phone number and pin to do it.

I am seeing these brand new on ebay for $60 the Boost version. We need to find a cheap or free unlock method
You can get it unlocked for about $30 which is cost prohibitive for most of us, since you can just get an unlocked phone for the same or less as the combined price of the phone and the code. I found that unlock company just searching in google.

Heruktiang said:
So I made the mistake of buying a phone from eBay. It's a Boost Mobile phone on Moto G7 play of course. Is there a way to unlock this thing. I really need my phone service with this coronavirus crap going on. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Long shot but have you tried flashing the retail firmware?

They said the phone must be active on boosts network for a year or they can't unlock it

Just pay attention to what you are buying in the future. I HAVE bought so many phones on ebay and had almost all of them were a good deal. Samsung S4, s4 mini, HTC M8, and 9, Blu Vivo XI+, Moto X4 (2 of them) Moto G Power, I just bought and LG G7 last night.
I made money on some of these because they had software issues and I repaired them at no cost to myself (Moto X4 like new for $30, repaired and I Sold it for $90 as example.
So the problem is you did not pay attention to what you were buying, that can happen anywhere with any seller or retailer
Either return it or sell it yourself on ebay. Pay attention to the details when you make a purchase next time whether it's on ebay, walmart crauigslist, BOOSt, Verizon, etc.
Kind of like a friend I Know bought a brand new Samsung Note 20 Ultra at US Cellular for $1300 then was complaining they can't get 5g in their town. It is no surprise hardly anyone has 5G, but it was a surprise to him I guess because he wasn't researching or paying attention to the details. The devil's in the details you know?

Best to research it first he could brick the device? I doubt it's that easy to unlock it that way. It would be nice if it was though
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Long shot but have you tried flashing the retail firmware?
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When a different SIM card is inserted, it says invalid SIM.