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[Q] Buy from T-Mobile, HTC, or somewhere else?

I've been with AT&T for the last 2 years (Galaxy S3). Thinking of switching to T-Mobile.
Where should I buy the One M8? Directly from T-Mobile? Or are there factors like price, bloatware, firmware updates, bootloader, carrier logo on the phone, etc. that would make buying an unlocked or developer edition from HTC a better choice? How do all these things work on T-Mobile, and on the One M8 specifically?

SharpHawk said:
I've been with AT&T for the last 2 years (Galaxy S3). Thinking of switching to T-Mobile.
Where should I buy the One M8? Directly from T-Mobile? Or are there factors like price, bloatware, firmware updates, bootloader, carrier logo on the phone, etc. that would make buying an unlocked or developer edition from HTC a better choice? How do all these things work on T-Mobile, and on the One M8 specifically?
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Before switching to T-Mobile, make sure they have good coverage in your area. I am currently testing them (again lol). Coverage does seem to be improving. Do you want to finance the phone? If so, then you have to get it through T-Mobile. All carrier versions of the M8 will be bootloader-locked; however, you can have HTC unlock it. I am sure the phone will get updates just has fast as any other carrier. Remember, the unlocked/developer editions will not have Wifi calling, which is very nice.
I too am considering picking up the TMO branded M8 as my developer edition was taking forever to ship from HTC.com.

Remember you don't really get discounts on phones for T-Mobile anymore because there is no contract. You can use the jump thing they offer which is pretty good for those who like to switch phones every 6 months. But personally, I would find a used one or refurbished one rather than paying full price. But beware of scammers with that route.
However with the price you'll pay with T-Mobile and doing the "jump" you would probably still save money lol.
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The AT&T and international M8 are not compatible with T-Mobile 3G network.
So, if you want to use it with T-mobile, you need to buy it from them.

طوني تبولة said:
The AT&T and international M8 are not compatible with T-Mobile 3G network.
So, if you want to use it with T-mobile, you need to buy it from them.
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true and false at the same time. It depends if the area you live in has been reframed. If they have LTE then the HSPA+ network is PCS1900 and not AWS. Best to check the area and find out if it's been reframed or not.

T-Mobile jump is a scam, you have to pay off 50% of the cost and you don't get to keep it, then you get new phone.
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just like buying a phone trying to sell it to get back 50%+ of the money around the same time most people would turn in during jump? You'll be stuck on the same boat. Either T-mobile does the leg work for you or you do it yourself. Either way seems the same to me. Since I am accident prone Jump is actually worth the money for me, and also when I am ready to change devices I don't have to find ways and deal with people to sell a phone to buy a phone.

I got mine through TMO even though I don't use them(I'm on straight talk). They are charging pretty close to the going rate for the phone(even with the interest added in they're not taking you to the cleaners too bad) so it's not a bad deal if you don't wanna go out of pocket all the money at once. The one I got was able to be s-off and thus simunlocked for free so that worked out beautifully for me.
My friend also got one(he is the one who is on TMO) and it's been great for him as well. We've both had good reception with it.

Tidbits said:
just like buying a phone trying to sell it to get back 50%+ of the money around the same time most people would turn in during jump? You'll be stuck on the same boat. Either T-mobile does the leg work for you or you do it yourself. Either way seems the same to me. Since I am accident prone Jump is actually worth the money for me, and also when I am ready to change devices I don't have to find ways and deal with people to sell a phone to buy a phone.
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To each hos own i suppose. Htc one m8 goes for around 460 on craigs list in Seattle area
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nohcho said:
To each hos own i suppose. Htc one m8 goes for around 460 on craigs list in Seattle area
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Give it 4 months and you'll be lucky to get $300. Also you probably be trying to sell the phone for weeks to months at $460. Been there done that.

Tidbits said:
Give it 4 months and you'll be lucky to get $300. Also you probably be trying to sell the phone for weeks to months at $460. Been there done that.
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I know, it's depriciating fast. When g3 dropa itl go dwon even faster
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nohcho said:
T-Mobile jump is a scam, you have to pay off 50% of the cost and you don't get to keep it, then you get new phone.
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not true, if you are on the "original" jump....

wase4711 said:
not true, if you are on the "original" jump....
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Obviously i was not talking about the original jump. The original jump was great and that's is why T-Mobile got rid of it because it was too good of a deal for consumers.
Also, the original jump is not available now is it? No, it is not
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Yes, It is for me, and anyone else who was a t mobile customer before Feb. 22nd, 2014
You are automatically grandfathered in if you were on TMobile before that date

wase4711 said:
Yes, It is for me, and anyone else who was a t mobile customer before Feb. 22nd, 2014
You are automatically grandfathered in if you were on TMobile before that date
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What about new cstomers?
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new customers can only choose the "new" jump, not the original one that I am on..

Swappa.com is amazing place to buy an m8. I bought tons of Phones on there and am about to buy an m8.
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Pixel Phone on Verizon

So with the Pixel phone being sold through Verizon here in the US, do you think this phone will be fully unlocked if bought from them?

Wow, that is expensive... and sold out...
Didn't get one, but want the 128 GB (though I wish they offered a 64GB).
Add the protection plan for another $100, sitting at close to $1000!
Holy cow... I am going to need to sell a kidney.
-J

scrillakev said:
So with the Pixel phone being sold through Verizon here in the US, do you think this phone will be fully unlocked if bought from them?
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Being it's Verizon I would say very likely but I am sure it will get cracked at least until new updates remember this is Verizon your talking about they love to be in control of things that they have no right to be. Easy fix don't buy from Verizon buy from Google or if you can buy from HTC as they will treat you better in the long run like the $100 in free accessories they gave the HTC 10 buyers after we got an extra free USB-C charge cable months before and maybe uh oh protection might be included too but that is hoping lol.

Is there any downsides from purchasing from google vs Verizon? Will we get access to the same LTE bands, etc.?
In the past, have google versions of phones have come with unlocked bootloaders but verizon come with locked versions of the same devices?

No1ustad said:
Is there any downsides from purchasing from google vs Verizon? Will we get access to the same LTE bands, etc.?
In the past, have google versions of phones have come with unlocked bootloaders but verizon come with locked versions of the same devices?
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Given the way the past Nexus devices (that included support for Verizon and were eventually sold through them) the answer is no. They use the exact same hardware presumably. But until we start seeing model numbers confirmed it could be a possibility. But the unlocked version will support Verizon and it will have Google as your main access for support (which has been good to some people in the past).
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Jsunn said:
Wow, that is expensive... and sold out...
Didn't get one, but want the 128 GB (though I wish they offered a 64GB).
Add the protection plan for another $100, sitting at close to $1000!
Holy cow... I am going to need to sell a kidney.
-J
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Keep trying and clicking in different orders. Like adding the 128GB before the color, size, etc. I managed to snag one that way. BE PERSISTENT!

M9guy said:
Being it's Verizon I would say very likely but I am sure it will get cracked at least until new updates remember this is Verizon your talking about they love to be in control of things that they have no right to be. Easy fix don't buy from Verizon buy from Google or if you can buy from HTC as they will treat you better in the long run like the $100 in free accessories they gave the HTC 10 buyers after we got an extra free USB-C charge cable months before and maybe uh oh protection might be included too but that is hoping lol.
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The only reason I'd consider buying it straight from Verizon is because it would be added onto my bill in which my job would end up paying for my phone. If I buy it from the PlayStore i'd have to buy it on my own.
I think I'm going to end up with a Note 7.

scrillakev said:
The only reason I'd consider buying it straight from Verizon is because it would be added onto my bill in which my job would end up paying for my phone. If I buy it from the PlayStore i'd have to buy it on my own.
I think I'm going to end up with a Note 7.
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I'm in that boat as well, work will pay for my phone if I get it through Verizon. Here's hoping that I can in some way sell the Verizon phone NIB and buy the unlocked one.

If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.

bsg411 said:
If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.
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Pre-order either Pixel model from today through October 19th and Verizon will send you a redemption code for a free Daydream view.
Will likely be bootloader locked.

bsg411 said:
If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.
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All I see on their web site is the payment plan and the option to pay full retail price and I looked all over Verizon's web site and I cannot see the contract option for either pixel phone. Can you provide a link to where you found it please, thanks.

That bootloader lock kills the deal
.. guess my nexus 6 lives on
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M9guy said:
All I see on their web site is the payment plan and the option to pay full retail price and I looked all over Verizon's web site and I cannot see the contract option for either pixel phone. Can you provide a link to where you found it please, thanks.
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My coworker told me about the 2 year promo...I didn't actually see it myself. He is currently at the end if a 2 year promo so maybe that has something to do with it??

Oh that's it. Anyone on a contract can keep getting new contracts like that. But new customers cannot get a contract from Verizon directly. You can still get service through Verizon with a new contract and subsidised phone you just have to purchase the Verizon service through dealers like best buy and target I know they both list new Verizon service with a contract where you get the phone subsidised instead of a payment plan or paying full retail price for the phone.
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stinger4321 said:
That bootloader lock kills the deal
.. guess my nexus 6 lives on
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Someone will probably figure out a way to unlock it. You could just wait it out and you might get a better deal waiting also.

Android police has already confirmed the verizon bootloader will be locked.

moosc said:
Android police has already confirmed the verizon bootloader will be locked.
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What he said!!

TechBSwift said:
What he said!!
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I wouldn't be too worried Dev's enjoy pissing off Big Red I'm sure it'll be cracked.

Virus1x said:
I wouldn't be too worried Dev's enjoy pissing off Big Red I'm sure it'll be cracked.
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Yeah, but it took well over a year to unlock the verizon S5 (at least. I hadn't looked for another year, so it might have been over 2). It'll be cracked Eventually but how long will it take

I'm not too worried about the bootloader being locked as I've stopped rooting my phones and flashing ROMS but I just need to know if the Verizon model has all the bands to work properly on t-mobile. I have 2 sims and need to confirm this.

Bootloader is definitely locked. Saw this question/answer on the VZW Page this morning for the Pixel XL.

I just preordered the pixel xl from best buy and extended my contract with Verizon. Does anybody know if the version they carry is the same as Verizon's or the unlocked version in the play store?
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Why are so many of you buying from Verizon & BestBuy instead of Google?

Just wondering. Why are so many of you buying from Verizon & BestBuy instead of Google?
You do realize the phones not purchased from Google will have a locked bootloader. So why would you buy from Verizon or BestBuy instead of Google, who has the same price and you can use either phones on Verizon if you so choose to do so.
I don't want to say ya'll are dumb, but I kind of feel this way.
I'm sure there is something I'm missing though, so help me understand please.

Are the payment plan options the same? If so that might be one reason. I have Verizon because that's what my employer (who pays for the phone and the bill) uses.
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Believe it or not, not everyone needs a bootloader unlocked these days. My days of tinkering with Android are over as I feel Android is better than ever. It is unfortunate the OP feels that I am dumb because everyone doesn't agree with his way of thinking...

It was also cheaper to purchase from Verizon for a new 2 year cobtract
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I personally ordered mine from Verizon due to my work account, and also don't care about root or unlocked boot loaders since I haven't needed either in several years. That being said I also believe many people have not been buying directly from Google because Google hasn't been able to keep them in stock. Which of course also implies that many people are buying them from Google, lol.

Best Buy is cheaper with a 2 year agreement ($299.99) as well as a 24 month installment ($31 a month), for 32GB version.
Also, best buy is giving a $100 gift card, which you can do whatever you want with. (resell it, use it, etc).
If you are only keeping the phone for two years, and don't care about updates after that, then its probably a better route. After two years, you are SOL for getting an up to date OS.

I had the note 7....the last return I just upgraded to the pixel xl. In exchange So....through Verizon it was.

Its an economic decision for me. In Germany I'll get the Device from T-Mobile Germany for 179€ (around 197 US$) for the renewal of my contract - I think this ist much better than the 1097€ direct from Google. The only downside is that it will have a locked bootloader...I'm still hoping someone finds a way to unlock the bootloaders of the Devices wich doesnt come directly from Google.

I ordered mine from Verizon. I haven't rooted a phone in a long time so locked or unlocked bootloader doesn't really matter for me.
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You do realize the phones not purchased from Google will have a locked bootloader.
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I have my phone rooted for Tasker and Xposed, but the Verizon phone can effectively be considerably cheaper right now.
So why would you buy from Verizon or BestBuy instead of Google, who has the same price and you can use either phones on Verizon if you so choose to do so.
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Best Buy will currently give a $100 gift card if you don't want a new line, a $200 gift card for a new line, another $25 for a sign-up will be available after the pre-order is over, and it can be done with monthly payments to allow porting out or cancelling the line. Verizon has phone trades that total $200-$300, which is done through reduced monthly payments, and my Razr M qualified for $200. Some people have other options on Verizon. Google does not offer similar sort of ways to essentially reduce the phone's cost at this time.
I don't want to say ya'll are dumb, but I kind of feel this way.
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Personally I question the idea of paying iPhone 7 prices, and since I'm not interested in the VR headset, that's basically what initial Google store customers are doing. As much as I like what Tasker can do with root, I'm not sure it's worth giving up automatic updates and effectively spending another $175 that I could have with $225 in Best Buy gift cards. If it turns out that there are limitations on the Verizon phones for anything other than the bootloader unlock, I'll probably change my opinion, but at this time it looks like Google's bottom-line price is considerably higher than what is possible at Verizon.

Purely inventory for me. Google shipments are a month or more out. They won't even take my money to pre-order it. VZW device I can have in 3 days.
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Buying it as a contract renewal over Deutsche Telekom is way cheaper for me, especially because I work there and get a monthly discount on the main contract.
I have to 29,95€ monthly instead of 64,95€ and get the Pixel XL 128 GB for 279,95€ on time fee.
But even the phone for my wife is way cheaper. I paid 19,95€ for here family card without a phone before, now we upgraded it to a contract with phone to 29,95€ a month and also 279,95€ for the small Pixel 32 GB.
Yes, I would also love to have a unlockable bootloader and instant updates from Google but after not rooting phones for a couple of years I will get along with it.

I wanted the one from the google store but didn't feel like waiting for it. I would like to have the bootloader unlocked just for the option but i haven't had time or need to mess with rooting and custom roms, so just having pure android is perfect for me. So for me it made sense to just order from Verizon, everyone has different needs or reasons and i would say for 90% of the people buying this phone has no need to ever unlock the bootloader or even know much about that world of roms and rooting. I thinks its a stretch to insinuate people are dumb for having a choice and choosing one over the other

dbrohrer said:
Troll. Glad you like your OP3. I'm sure there are plenty people on the OP3 threads that agree with you and would love to hear your comments.
I ordered from Verizon because I was able to trade in an old phone for monthly device credit. It should save me $100-200 depending on how long I stay on Verizon DPP. I preordered one from the Google Play Store as well. I don't plan on opening the box from the play store unless the Verizon model upsets me and needs to be returned.
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Whats the point of buying two then? Everything about the Verizon version is the same except for boot loader.....

Buying it directly from Verizon because
1) My job will be paying for it
2) I feel once I have stock Android I don't really need to have root or an unlocked bootloader.
3) Don't have to wait until it comes back in stock via the playstore.

Major discount through employee. 419 vs 869 for xl 128gb and plus availability. Still waiting though as I want to see if anyone cracks that Verizon bootloader within the first month.
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IkeBiker said:
Whats the point of buying two then? Everything about the Verizon version is the same except for boot loader.....
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I am planning on keeping the Verizon Pixel because it is cheaper for me. As more reviews and info come out that is ACTUALLY reputable, I want to be able to return it to Verizon within the first 2 weeks if I decide there are significant differences between the Verizon version and the Google Play version. If I do that, I want to have the Google Play store Pixel in a box ready for me to switch over. This way I also get to take advantage of the Daydream VR, no matter which device I return.
Since the announcement on October 4th, there has not been any real credible information about the Pixel. Everything has been "so and so said this... Don't buy the Verizon version... etc." Then every Android blog site just blindly regurgitates what was said as if it was real news. NO ONE fact checks. Some CSR at Verizon who doesn't know what a freaking bootloader even is said something, then everyone freaks out and android headlines and forums go crazy. Then someone at Google says something else and everyone takes that as the truth. Does anyone even look at where the info came from? The only group I believe at all at this time is Google Pixel team. If they didn't say it or someone cannot show me in a video with their phone in their hand, I'm not going to believe it.
As long as I am confident that the Verizon pixel will get updates straight from Google when Google promises (just like what I'm used to with Nexus), I don't see a convincing reason not to go with Verizon. I would like the ability to unlock the bootloader so that I can flash the factory images if that promise is not kept. With every new version of Android, I find less need to try custom roms. With what I have seen from 7.1, I don't think I will even have the urge.

destes37 said:
It is unfortunate the OP feels that I am dumb because everyone doesn't agree with his way of thinking...
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I regret saying it the way I did.
I don't think you're dumb at all.
XDA is all about development, I guess I'm still surprised when there are people here who don't care about flashing ROM's or backing up in TWRP and even some who apparently don't care about root any longer.
If I didn't care about flashing ROM's (or root), I'd be on a S7 Edge right now.

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I am planning on keeping the Verizon Pixel because it is cheaper for me. As more reviews and info come out that is ACTUALLY reputable, I want to be able to return it to Verizon within the first 2 weeks if I decide there are significant differences between the Verizon version and the Google Play version. If I do that, I want to have the Google Play store Pixel in a box ready for me to switch over. This way I also get to take advantage of the Daydream VR, no matter which device I return.
Since the announcement on October 4th, there has not been any real credible information about the Pixel. Everything has been "so and so said this... Don't buy the Verizon version... etc." Then every Android blog site just blindly regurgitates what was said as if it was real news. NO ONE fact checks. Some CSR at Verizon who doesn't know what a freaking bootloader even is said something, then everyone freaks out and android headlines and forums go crazy. Then someone at Google says something else and everyone takes that as the truth. Does anyone even look at where the info came from? The only group I believe at all at this time is Google Pixel team. If they didn't say it or someone cannot show me in a video with their phone in their hand, I'm not going to believe it.
As long as I am confident that the Verizon pixel will get updates straight from Google when Google promises (just like what I'm used to with Nexus), I don't see a convincing reason not to go with Verizon. I would like the ability to unlock the bootloader so that I can flash the factory images if that promise is not kept. With every new version of Android, I find less need to try custom roms. With what I have seen from 7.1, I don't think I will even have the urge.
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So much this right here. They said this about the Verizon N6 also. That everything would be locked down and look what happened. Nothing was locked down at all. I ordered the Verizon Pixel XL because of this also and i dont really need root anymore. If i am able to root its a plus but not a deal breaker for me.

arcanexvi said:
Purely inventory for me. Google shipments are a month or more out. They won't even take my money to pre-order it. VZW device I can have in 3 days.
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Yes, I also am grumpy and pissed at google for messing up the "orders / pre-orders". Year after year, they keep screwing up on the first step. They "could" have manufactured an extra 50, 000 and it would not have hurt their economics and it would have greatly helped their public image. Did the 'Note 7' burn put a snag in things ?
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What if the "big and detailed" reviews start coming in and it shows a narley wart about the phone ? ? ? My biggest, desired attribute is the big leap in the camera ( camcorder ? ) area . . .

Unlocked Pixel XL 2 on Verizon

Hey guys, I'm currently on XL and want to pull the trigger for XL2. Can anyone confirm if tethering is working? For some reason, I can't get my XL to tether anymore on Verizon.
I'm on the $80 unlimited plan.
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MatthewRobinson said:
Hey guys, I'm currently on XL and want to pull the trigger for XL2. Can anyone confirm if tethering is working? For some reason, I can't get my XL to tether anymore on Verizon.
I'm on the $80 unlimited plan.
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Tethering does not seem to work out of the box. However there are a number of people who have rooted the phone and have gotten it working that way

MatthewRobinson said:
Hey guys, I'm currently on XL and want to pull the trigger for XL2. Can anyone confirm if tethering is working? For some reason, I can't get my XL to tether anymore on Verizon.
I'm on the $80 unlimited plan.
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Just tested it where i'm at (horrible signal and data speeds) but wifi tethering still worked on my laptop just fine.
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Tethering does not seem to work out of the box. However there are a number of people who have rooted the phone and have gotten it working that way
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I guess that's why tethering works for me, I'm rooted. But that shouldn't be the answer it should work without root, unfortunately i didn't think to test that before i unlocked my bootloader and rooted.

I'm rooted on XL with the build.prop edit and it's not working for me. It connects, but gives no data. Any idea as to why?
Are you on the Verizon $80 unlimited?
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I'm have the Verizon version of the Pixel 2 XL and tethering works fine out of the box for me.

depends if you're prepaid or postpaid. Tethering won't work on the prepaid $80 plan.

AceKingNYC said:
depends if you're prepaid or postpaid. Tethering won't work on the prepaid $80 plan.
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Even if you're rooted!!!?
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Even if you're rooted!!!?
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I can't speak to that personally. But I can't see how it isn't solved with root. I am on verizon prepaid but most likely keeping everything as is

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I can't speak to that personally. But I can't see how it isn't solved with root. I am on verizon prepaid but most likely keeping everything as is
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On XL when I turn it on, devices connect, but don't have a connection. I have the pixel and pixel XL. One on T-Mobile and the other on Verizon. I swapped Sims and same thing. T-Mobile works just fine on either phone.
Whichever one I put Verizon Sim in can't tether suddenly.
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Verizon version of the Pixel 2 XL & Tethering
fade79 said:
I'm have the Verizon version of the Pixel 2 XL and tethering works fine out of the box for me.
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I have it out of the box ....but I don't know why people think the VZ sold product is any different than the G-store item
Uhg..much reading later I think its going back...Seems the VZ version cannot get bootloader unlocked and if so it seems like a hell of a mess. Im just a simple flasher..or please correct me if I am wrong??

wiseguyy said:
I have it out of the box ....but I don't know why people think the VZ sold product is any different than the G-store item
Uhg..much reading later I think its going back...Seems the VZ version cannot get bootloader unlocked and if so it seems like a hell of a mess. Im just a simple flasher..or please correct me if I am wrong??
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Mine is the actual Google version, with Verizon service.
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Hey there I work for Verizon. So hotspot is disabled on prepaid $60 and $80 plans. As far as postpaid. They made it more complicated.
"Verizon unlimited"no longer available unless you switched to it from the beginning. This plan includes 15gb of high-speed hotspot/tether is included with this plan​ and will slow to unlimited 3g speeds after.You get 22gb of prioritized high speed lte. Now if your at a big event like a baseball game. Everyone who has Verizon there will be on the same tower. Those that are on this plan and have gone over the 22gb if data will experience a slower connection for the time period until they leave and connect to a different tower. Also includes calls to Mexico and Canada whether you're here or there. $85 bucks $80 with auto pay.
"Go unlimited" this plan has no high speed lte hotspot. But you have unlimited 3g hot spot. You are not prioritized, you can be slowed down on a busy tower wether you have used 1gb or 100gb of data. no Mexico no Canada. And 480p restriction for streaming. $80 bucks $75 with auto pay.
"Beyond unlimited" this is much like the first plan I listed. Everything is the same except there's a 720p restriction on streaming and it's $90 bucks $85 with autopay.
Hopefully you jumped on the first plan when u had the chance. All they accomplished by splitting the plan into two was confused the hell out of me. Lol. Let me know if you need anything else and answered. I'm always willing to help! I love verizon where I live. It's pretty much king here. I switched jobs and service from T-Mobile. I hate that my Pixel 2 XL is locked but it's probably a blessing in disguise knowing my luck.

Ives314 said:
Hey there I work for Verizon. So hotspot is disabled on prepaid $60 and $80 plans. As far as postpaid. They made it more complicated.
"Verizon unlimited"no longer available unless you switched to it from the beginning. This plan includes 15gb of high-speed hotspot/tether is included with this plan​ and will slow to unlimited 3g speeds after.You get 22gb of prioritized high speed lte. Now if your at a big event like a baseball game. Everyone who has Verizon there will be on the same tower. Those that are on this plan and have gone over the 22gb if data will experience a slower connection for the time period until they leave and connect to a different tower. Also includes calls to Mexico and Canada whether you're here or there. $85 bucks $80 with auto pay.
"Go unlimited" this plan has no high speed lte hotspot. But you have unlimited 3g hot spot. You are not prioritized, you can be slowed down on a busy tower wether you have used 1gb or 100gb of data. no Mexico no Canada. And 480p restriction for streaming. $80 bucks $75 with auto pay.
"Beyond unlimited" this is much like the first plan I listed. Everything is the same except there's a 720p restriction on streaming and it's $90 bucks $85 with autopay.
Hopefully you jumped on the first plan when u had the chance. All they accomplished by splitting the plan into two was confused the hell out of me. Lol. Let me know if you need anything else and answered. I'm always willing to help! I love verizon where I live. It's pretty much king here. I switched jobs and service from T-Mobile. I hate that my Pixel 2 XL is locked but it's probably a blessing in disguise knowing my luck.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but this thread is on the unlocked device and your post reads Sooo reads like a Straight On Advertisement for Verizon Service Plans...WTH??

wiseguyy said:
I have it out of the box ....but I don't know why people think the VZ sold product is any different than the G-store item
Uhg..much reading later I think its going back...Seems the VZ version cannot get bootloader unlocked and if so it seems like a hell of a mess. Im just a simple flasher..or please correct me if I am wrong??
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My understanding is, you can buy both the Google version and the Verizon version from Google. BUT, the Verizon version from Google IS locked and from all that I've read, it's locked REAL tight, like many other Verizon devices are.
I think the confusion stems from those buying it outright from Google presume their Verizon device will be unlocked, and it isn't. It's the exact same device you'd get if you walked into a Verizon store (I'm sure there's a ton of legal wording preventing Google from selling Verizon branded unlocked devices.
I'm not sure why anyone would pay the same for a locked device over a unlockable device. If you're never going to unlock it, get the unlockable one JUST IN CASE you change your mind, if not, it's a selling feature for the future.
Hopefully this clears things up a bit.

Az Biker said:
My understanding is, you can buy both the Google version and the Verizon version from Google. BUT, the Verizon version from Google IS locked and from all that I've read, it's locked REAL tight, like many other Verizon devices are.
I think the confusion stems from those buying it outright from Google presume their Verizon device will be unlocked, and it isn't. It's the exact same device you'd get if you walked into a Verizon store (I'm sure there's a ton of legal wording preventing Google from selling Verizon branded unlocked devices.
I'm not sure why anyone would pay the same for a locked device over a unlockable device. If you're never going to unlock it, get the unlockable one JUST IN CASE you change your mind, if not, it's a selling feature for the future.
Hopefully this clears things up a bit.
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Well I'm glad I didn't open it or break the bag seal it's gowing up on eBay tonight

wiseguyy said:
Well I'm glad I didn't open it or break the bag seal it's gowing up on eBay tonight
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What are you looking at getting next?

Az Biker said:
What are you looking at getting next?
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I'm fortunate I got a N8 and I have just ordered the same 128 device from G in Panda style hopefully that will fetch more than the just black model when I move on again next year...But I'm Sooo praying to that Beanstown comes to the PXL2 soon. Hell ASAP I ran his PN rom and it was the sh**.
The guy's just a ROM savant

wiseguyy said:
I'm fortunate I got a N8 and I have just ordered the same 128 device from G in Panda style hopefully that will fetch more than the just black model when I move on again next year...But I'm Sooo praying to that Beanstown comes to the PXL2 soon. Hell ASAP I ran his PN rom and it was the sh**.
The guy's just a ROM savant
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N8? Nokia 8?
No arguing how good Nate's Roms are... This is my 3rd device running PN.

Az Biker said:
N8? Nokia 8?
No arguing how good Nate's Roms are... This is my 3rd device running PN.
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Note 8... I'm simply dying to find out if and when he's going to roll over to the pxl 2

wiseguyy said:
Note 8... I'm simply dying to find out if and when he's going to roll over to the pxl 2
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In the event you didn't catch it in the 6P thread, he said he purchased a 2 XL.
I asked him if the development would be similar for the 2 and the 2 XL and he said absolutely.
So, it's coming

Question Verizon and the Pixel 6 Pro

I have $200 dollar credit with Verizon I was thinking of pre ordering the phone with Verizon on the 19th. Do you guys think they will gimp the Verizon version like in the past. Locked bootloader, Verizon bloat ware, and slow updates. Or should I just forget the 200 credit and get the phone unlocked from Google and never worry about the Verizon crap.

xray49er said:
I have $200 dollar credit with Verizon I was thinking of pre ordering the phone with Verizon on the 19th. Do you guys think they will gimp the Verizon version like in the past. Locked bootloader, Verizon bloat ware, and slow updates. Or should I just forget the 200 credit and get the phone unlocked from Google and never worry about the Verizon crap.
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I can't say that I know for sure, but Verizon has crippled every other Pixel that they have offered. I doubt this one will be any different.

xray49er said:
I have $200 dollar credit with Verizon I was thinking of pre ordering the phone with Verizon on the 19th. Do you guys think they will gimp the Verizon version like in the past. Locked bootloader, Verizon bloat ware, and slow updates. Or should I just forget the 200 credit and get the phone unlocked from Google and never worry about the Verizon crap.
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Verizon phones have been bootloader locked for years, so it is almost certain the Pixel 6 will also be bootloader locked. Personally, I would get the unlocked phone from Google.

I'm not based in the US but as others have said, Verizon always lock the bootloader and install bloat so it's likely they will continue that practice.
If the phone is identical (not sure if there will be a special Verizon version to work on different network types) then I would suggest buying direct from Google.
Here in the UK, you can get 24 months 0% interest finance directly on the Google store so you can still spread the cost without paying extra for it. If they do that in the US I think that is your best bet. Hopefully you can use the $200 to pay monthly bills so it doesn't "go to waste".

Yeah That's what I figured I have been using one plus phones the past few years so I went directly through them. I guess Google store it will be.

xray49er said:
I have $200 dollar credit with Verizon I was thinking of pre ordering the phone with Verizon on the 19th. Do you guys think they will gimp the Verizon version like in the past. Locked bootloader, Verizon bloat ware, and slow updates. Or should I just forget the 200 credit and get the phone unlocked from Google and never worry about the Verizon crap.
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Yes 100% they will and there probably won't be a work around. Only buy Verizon if you don't mind locked down devices.

rav101 said:
I'm not based in the US but as others have said, Verizon always lock the bootloader and install bloat so it's likely they will continue that practice.
If the phone is identical (not sure if there will be a special Verizon version to work on different network types) then I would suggest buying direct from Google.
Here in the UK, you can get 24 months 0% interest finance directly on the Google store so you can still spread the cost without paying extra for it. If they do that in the US I think that is your best bet. Hopefully you can use the $200 to pay monthly bills so it doesn't "go to waste".
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Yeah dont want to open anymore credit lines I am in the middle of buying a house and the 200 is devices only. maybes I'll just use it to get my son a new phone for Christmas