Hey there,
I bought a new USB Stick (Corsair Flash Voyager GTX 512GB USB 3.1) as external storage for my ZenFone 2 but if I connect it with a USB OTG cable it does not even start up (the LED from the USB Stick does not flash).
Now the testing started:
Does the cable work? Yes it does, I have 2 different USB OTG cables and both work on my Samsung Galaxy S3 (Lineage OS 14.1 - Android 7.1.2 Update 19th April 2018) WITH this Stick! -> that means, the cables are fine!
Does USB OTG not work with this device?
I connected my (realy) old 2GB USB 2.0 (OCZ ATV) and the LED is flashing and I can read/write to the Stick.
Maybe there is some trouble with USB 3.0?
My Kingston FCR-HS4 USB 3.0 cardreader does also work fine! ([email protected] if I write some files to it - Idle: [email protected]).
Does the stick need to much power?
I have a 'USB Safety Tester' that is just like a USB Multimeter (Volt & Ampere). I connected it with the stick to my PC and the SGS3 and it start up with about [email protected] at my SGS3 and [email protected] If I write some files to the stick it is about 0.2A max.
Then I wanted to see how much load can the USB connector (ZenFone) deliver. I connected the USB OTG and the USB Safety Tester to the ZenFone and then put a USB cable to the SGS3 to charge the battery of the SGS3 -> Idle Voltage: 5.04V Charging Voltage: 4.94V-4,95V @ 0,36A.
OK as you can see, it has enough power to handle the stick.
But what I realized if I connect the stick with the 'USB Safety Tester' is, that the ZenFone turns off the power (at the USB Port, not the device itself) instantly if I connect the stick to the phone.
After that I cant use other devices with the cable, not even the Tester without the stick (or any other device connected) - at first I have to disconnect and connect the cable again and the Tester start up!
But every time I connect the stick, the power turns off!
Any ideas how to solve that, I realy want to use that USB Stick.
Btw. I formatted it as exFAT and even as FAT32 (with the Software Fat32Formatter) - it makes no difference (because it does not even start up for sure).
Btw2. I dont know if this makes a difference but the stick is not listed as "Devices with Removable Storage" , it is listed at "Hard Disk Drives" on my PC (Win7).
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Hi All,
I have rooted my SGH-T989 and have flashed Zedomax's kernel to allow the USB Hosting functionality on my phone. This has worked great and I can now use a mouse and keyboard via a USB Splitter into a single OTG cable plugged into my phone.
The Setup:
Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-T989 (Rooted)
Zedomax-T989-Kernel-v0.1.zip from
w w w .theandroidsoul.com/connect-usb-flash-drives-mouse-keyboard-etc-to-t-mobile-galaxy-s2-t-989/"
OTG cable
w w w .amazon.com/Micro-USB-Host-Cable-accommodating/dp/B005GGBYJ4
Belkin USB Hub [/URL] from
w w w .bestbuy.com/site/Belkin+-+4-Port+USB+2.0+Powered+Hub/2389094.p;jsessionid=F16C84B9FD065C59401C5EEEEA981347.bbolsp-app02-07?id=1218324435232&skuId=2389094
DLink KVM[/URL] from
w w w .officedepot.com/a/products/706845/D-Link-KVM-221-2-Port/?cm_mmc=Mercent-_-Google-_-Networking_and_Cables-_-706845-%7Bcopy:IQ_PE%7D&mr:trackingCode=480D3D1B-EC81-DE11-B7F3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA
Normal USB mouse and keyboard
KVM Used to switch mouse and keyboard from Desktop to USB Hub for SGH-T989
The Problem:
If I use the mini to USB cable supplied with the Belkin USB Hub to the OTG cable the mouse and keyboard are recognized and usable. However, if I don't use the OTG cable it will NOT recognize the mouse and keyboard.
That is not my issue, I'm ok using the OTG cable, but it leaves me with a Female USB placeholder. Therefore, I have to connect it to the USB Hub. Obviously, the Mini to USB A cable worked for hosting, but it does not supply power to the phone even though the USB Hub is plugged in and powered.
My initial thoughts were that the USB Hub does not supply power out the side mini USB so I bought a 1.0 USB A to A , 2.0 USB A to A, 3.0 USB A to A, Gender Changer for OTG cable. and no matter what cable I plug into the front USB slots on my USB Splitter, I get NO POWER and NO HOSTING. Nothing seems to flow through to the phone other then the one Mini to USB with OTG, but leaves me powerless.
I have also bought the docking station, which I later found out that even with the OTG cable will not push the hosting through to the phone and had to return it in favor of a more generic stand to hold my phone landscape.
I am out of ideas as to what to try next to get power and hostability to my phone. Please help!
Thanks,
Sam
Odds the USB hub powered? I remember that the first OTG kernel that came out said the hub had to be powered to use a mouse or keyboard.
The hdmi cable has to be plugged to the phone charger as wellfor it to work
Sent from my SGH-T959 using xda premium
Yes it is powered, I have also tried unplugging it to remove power. However, the OTG cable will accept the KVM mouse and keyboard plugged directly into the OTG cable itself.
The one thing I'm not certain on is whether or not the mini to USB out of the side of the USB Hub is supplying power or not. However, that is the ONLY spot that is working for pushing the KVM Mouse and Keyboard through to the phone. Without just plugging KVM directly into the OTG cable.
The KVM is plugged into the USB Hub and the Mini is plugged into the side by the power and then plugged into the OTG. This setup works for hosting, but all the variations of plugging into the normal front facing USB spots of the hub have failed to do anything but bring in power. However, I have NEVER successfully brought power through the OTG cable, so I'm not even sure it can support power at this point.
Sam
the only devices that does not need additional power are USB keys / flash disk storage and the likes
everything else you need to plug it into a powered USB hub, and have the hub connect to the USB OTG cable
and you do not need any special Kernel for USB OTG to work on this phone
USB OTG works from factory stock ROM (i just tried it to verify )
Hi Allgamer,
Thank you for your insight. However, I did try the OTG cable before getting the special kernel and it DID NOT function. Once I downloaded Kedomax's kernel I was successful. This appears to be a feature they removed from T-Mobiles version.
As for the Power issue. If you guys would be so kind as to reread my initial blog and reply before posting power things to try as I have listed that I have tried powered and unpowered and plugged directly and indirectly and through a usb hub and without, all variations and cables to plug and play have been exhausted.
I'm looking for a more advance analysis that may help provide a solution to my current problem. I'm not sure if the OTG cable can allow power to pass through to the phone or not. I have yet to see that work. I'm also thinking I cannot host without the OTG which seems as though it would leave me in an infinite loop.
Here are more along the line of questions that I'm hoping someone can provide insight to as I have no way of answering these questions myself without an extended work bench and wider test result devices.
1.
Can anyone confirm that the OTG cable can in fact provide power to the phone as well when plugged into a USB Source such as a HUB that is providing power out the USB ports to the OTG cable itself.
2.
Can anyone confirm that the OTG Cable can still support hosting capabilities if power is being sent up the cable or does this disable it in some way.
Thanks again for your responses, no disrespect intended by my redirection of the thought process here.
Sam
The usb OTG allows to connect devices to the Note 10.1 but some devices require higher power, that looks like they work if connected to a powered usb hub!
Does anyone know os any battery powered usb hub so it is possible to connect to high power devices without a wall plug nearby!
The only one I could find was:
tekkeon mp1800
Another one discontinued:
CyberPower Mobile Battery Powered 4-Port USB Hub (CP-H420MP)
But it's been discontinued everywhere.
I've ordered the RAVPOWER WIFI battery powered hub. I hope to have it by Monday and will review it once I have had a chance to use it. Its battery is supposed to be able to recharge a phone, but I wouldn't try to power a hard drive with it (you're supposed to be able to connect a 2T hard drive to its USB port). If you want battery power for a hard drive, I'd recommend a separate high-powered battery. Here's a link to the RAVEPOWER unit, which is half-price right now at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower%C2%AE-RP-WD01-Wireless-WiFi-Disk-Li-Polymer/dp/B00AQUMZRA/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361466247&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=RAVPower%C2%AE+Wireless+WiFi+Disk+Built-in+3000+mAh++External+Battery+Pack+Charger+RP-WD01.+Read
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I see there's a review in the general accessories forum. I'll stll do a review; I plan to hook a 2T hard drive to the USB port to see how well it works. Here's the review. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2150164
Can the USB port act as a Pass - Thru (when directly connected to the tablet, obviously) for High powered devices such as USB Ethernet Adapter
ie:
USB Ethernet --> RAVPOWER --> USB Cable --> Tablet
klau1 said:
Can the USB port act as a Pass - Thru (when directly connected to the tablet, obviously) for High powered devices such as USB Ethernet Adapter
ie:
USB Ethernet --> RAVPOWER --> USB Cable --> Tablet
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I dont believe so, but I don't have my unit yet. This serves as a WIFI hub with an SD card reader an a USB port that can accomodate flash drives and hard drives upto 2T. You can share access with others and if you read the link to the review I posted you'll see that the reviewer set his up to share access with several friends in a 3-car caravan during a road trip and that they could get a signal and share files while moving down the road (clearly, we hope it was only the passengers testing it out). I'll confirm that it supports 2T hard drives once I get my unit.
klau1 said:
The usb OTG allows to connect devices to the Note 10.1 but some devices require higher power, that looks like they work if connected to a powered usb hub!
Does anyone know os any battery powered usb hub so it is possible to connect to high power devices without a wall plug nearby!
The only one I could find was:
tekkeon mp1800
Another one discontinued:
CyberPower Mobile Battery Powered 4-Port USB Hub (CP-H420MP)
But it's been discontinued everywhere.
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I have this: CyberPower Mobile Battery Powered 4-Port USB Hub (CP-H420MP), but I am afraid it is not working with the tablet. Or maybe I am doing something wrong. Either way I have put it up on Craigslist for sale as I can't manage to make it work, bought it about a year ago for the HP TouchPad and never used it
Title says it all, has anyone tried this?
From what I've read (and the other threads on this topic) - no it can't be done.
It can't be done my friend
I got it to work
psycho1200 said:
It can't be done my friend
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I used the following and plugged into my TV usb port and had ethernet (verfied with WIFI shut off) and it was charging.
USB 2.0 Ethernet adapter - <amazon.com/gp/product/B003VSTDFG>
OTG with power - <amazon.com/gp/product/B00C452XFO/>
Yup, this now works great for me too! :good:
I bought the Ethernet adapter Nvidia Recommends (same as browncoatdave's)
http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Gigabit-Ethernet-Chromebook-Specific/dp/B003VSTDFG
And just whatever Y cable could find that didn't look uber cheap.
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXAC1ZW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
What I have plugged into the shield
jjprichards said:
Title says it all, has anyone tried this?
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1) 3 Port USB Hub
2) Plugable USB 2.0 to 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN Wired Network Adapter
3) Micro USB Host OTG Cable with Micro USB Power
4) Smart Touch Mini USB TouchPad Keyboard
5) Full Size trackball mouse
6) Charging cord
I am charging the battery with ethernet, keyboard and mouse plugged in.
No Problem. But this is also after the kitkat update which added the charging while ethernet is plugged in.
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1) 3 Port USB Hub
2) Plugable USB 2.0 to 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN Wired Network Adapter
3) Micro USB Host OTG Cable with Micro USB Power
4) Smart Touch Mini USB TouchPad Keyboard
5) Full Size trackball mouse
6) Charging cord
I am charging the battery with ethernet, keyboard and mouse plugged in.
No Problem. But this is also after the kitkat update which added the charging while ethernet is plugged in.
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trackball mouse, why? gives me flashbacks of the 90s...
solidsn said:
1) 3 Port USB Hub
2) Plugable USB 2.0 to 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN Wired Network Adapter
3) Micro USB Host OTG Cable with Micro USB Power
4) Smart Touch Mini USB TouchPad Keyboard
5) Full Size trackball mouse
6) Charging cord
I am charging the battery with ethernet, keyboard and mouse plugged in.
No Problem. But this is also after the kitkat update which added the charging while ethernet is plugged in.
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Did you plug all the devices in a particular order? I noticed that if I plug in my charger AFTER I plug in the OTG cable into the shield, then it is not charging. But when I plug in the charger into the OTG cable and then plug it into shield, it is charging.
Is your hub powered? What exact model is it? I am asking because I have very similar setup to yours but the shield does not detect USB devices connected to the hub - it's this one: http: // esperanza . pl/esperanza-usb-2-0-hub-4-porty-ea116,182,437.html
I can connect one usb device directly to OTG cable and it works, but when I connect a hub, it no longer works.
There is a cheap way to do this if you have the soldering skills, and are willing to try it.
Get a cheap USB "Travel" hub.
Open it up, and replace the Upstream USB cable with an OTG cable (A scrap Micro-USB cable may or may not work. The connector must be Properly wired for OTG).
Remove the main power diode in the USB hub, and solder jumper the 2 pads where it was. A Multimeter in continuity mode can help you find the right component, but it takes some experience. There usually is not much in a cheap travel hub, so I can usually find them just by looking, but like I say, only try this if you have the experience, and you know what you are looking for.
Power the hub through it's 5V power jack (if it has one), or you can add a power only micro-USB socket. (Only connect the (+) and (-) power pins, do not connect the data lines. Connect it to any one of the Full size USB port's power pins. Observe polarity.)
Voila! You now have 4 Full size USB ports, it will charge your device, and provide power (Up to the rated power of the AC adapter) for your USB devices.
I did this years ago in the Nokia 770 days. It was one of the first consumer devices that supported USB OTG. Article still exists here:
http://www.linuxslate.org/N770DockingStation.html (Scroll down to the "Electronic Components" Section)
Would this work?
Would this: SODIAL(R) Micro USB Host OTG Cable with Micro USB Power plus this: Anker® Unibody 3-Port USB 3.0 and Ethernet Hub
Give me the ability to charge tablet, use Ethernet and additionally connect USB mouse and keyboard, and possibly charge Nvidia Game Controller?
Or would it just be a waste of time and money
Not sure if this is the correct place for this, first time posting.
So I'm having a hell of a time getting my Western Digital 2TB external drive to connect to my Nexus 7 2013. I have both Stickmount and Nexus Media Importer installed, and I'm rooted with Cyanogenmod, and I have a working OTG cable.
I know that the Nexus 7 doesn't have enough power to support most external hard drives that use a USB for power. So I bought a 12000mAh external battery with a 5V 2.1A output USB port, and a 4-port (unpowered) USB hub from Radioshack.
Along with those, I had to hunt down a male-to-male standard USB cable in order to connect the female port on the hub to the female port of the OTG cable (using the standard USB-to-micro doesn't work, because for some reason the OTG cable is specifically required to mount USB devices on Android, as you guys probably know).
After finally getting the male-to-male cord today, I tried hooking it up and still no luck. NMI detects the OTG cable but cannot detect the external drive. It works just fine with a flash drive.
Now after looking at the reviews of the USB hub on the site that I linked to, I'm thinking it may be the problem. If you look in the comments you have multiple people stating that this specific hub doesn't play well with many external drives. I haven't had any troubles with it through my PC, but you never know. I've also tried switching between the USB 3.0 cable that came with the drive to a standard USB-to-micro charge/data cable (with no luck), because I've read that NMI doesn't support USB 3.0
Does anyone have any advice or experience with this kind of thing? I'm thinking I may need to find a Y adapter that has one female and two male plugs so I'm not having to go through a potentially-crappy USB hub. But I'm not sure if that'll actually fix the problem or not. From searching around on the web a bit, it seems that connecting this specific drive with the Nexus 7 shouldn't be all that difficult, there's plenty of simple guides out there to demonstrate.
Just to recap, here's my connection process:
- Connect USB hub to external batter (2.1A port), make sure battery is ON
- Connect USB from External Drive to an open port on the hub
- Connect male-to-male USB cable to another port on the hub
- Connect M2M cable to the OTG cable
- Connect OTG cable to Nexus 7 (while on, with 90%+ battery)
- Nothing happens
EDIT - Would have included links to the specific devices, but I'm new to XDA so they won't let me post link yet.
I have a WD 1TB USB3 external drive. The only way I got it to work was by installing Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+ (Available on the Play store), connecting the drive through a normal OTG cable, and rebooting the Nexus WITH the cable connected. Yes, I have to reboot every time with the OTG cable plugged in. I can plug/unplug devices as much as I want, but once the OTG is unplugged, I have to do another reboot; it's annoying, but it is better than nothing. Give this a shot.
Also, what ROM/Kernel are you running?
is the drive formatted as NTFS or exFAT? maybe try the ElementalX kernel as it supports both formats for USB OTG and see if that helps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389022
edit- just remembered that i came across extra files on the Stickmount XDA page a while back that lets Stickmount support NTFS and exFAT drives, if flashing a custom kernel isn't your thing then you could try that..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400034
I finally got it to work, and now I just feel foolish.
I just needed to switch two cords. I had the male end of the USB hub plugged into the battery, and then the external drive and male-to-male USB plugged into the hub. The male-to-male cord then went to the OTG and the tablet. This apparently didn't let the data/power through correctly.
I went down to the local computer shop and the guy showed me that I was doing it wrong. Instead of using the hub's male end to hook up to the battery, I needed to use the m2m cord for that. The male end of the hub now connects to the OTG, and it works like a charm. I have to make sure to power up the drive and give it a second before connecting it, but Stickmount detects it right away and I have all my content.
I was pretty sure I'd tried every configuration and that I'd need a Y cable for sure, but I'm glad that's not the case even though I feel like an idiot now, haha.
Hello -
I have been looking all over for a cable that will work for what I am trying to do but I just can't find exactly what I need. Maybe I am looking for the wrong cable type?
I am trying to plug my Seagate Portable 4TB SS HDD. into my Rooted Galaxy Tab S3 SM-T820. I dont really understand what cable type
I need when I look at my Tab. I guess it is a Mini USB Type 3.0 - C ?? The only cable that I have that fits it is the one that came with the tab.
Am I looking for a Mini USB C 3.0 ( adapter to a ) Solid State USB 3.0 ? ? ? - Please look at the picture to see what type of connection my HDD has.
It is 2 connections in 1 . I assume part of the cable is for power and the other side of the cable is the transfer side. ?
So I guess my main question is: What cable do I need ?? ALSO ... If I cant hook up to the Portable SS HDD, then how about just hooking up my Tab to my 3.0 USB slot
on my desktop?
Thank you !!
You have three concerns here.
1. Power.
2. Cable.
3. Compatibility.
*If* the tablet can power the external drive, and the external drive is compatible, a usb c to micro usb 3.0 cable will be all you need.
If the tablet and the drive are compatible and the tablet can't provide enough power to he drive, you will need a powered hub...tablet connects to the hub, the hub connects to power and the external drive.
as far as compatibility, you are *probably* fine, as long as the drive is formatted FAT or FAT32. If it's NTFS or something besides EXT, you are most likely hosed.
Good Luck!
Buy Type C adapters that are designed for Mac books. they work great with Tab S3. Just make sure it is USB 3.0 or above.