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Micro Usb To Mini USb to Normal USB

I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM

Lordareon said:
I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM
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you will not be able to plug in a USB peripheral (mouse, keyboard) directly into the phone. it will not work.
you can, however, purchase a +5V powered USB hub (that plugs into the wall), and use that to plug into the phone and plug your KB/mouse into the hub, and it should work. you can find such hubs at www.dealextreme.com
to further answer your question, USB-___USB converters will work as long as the converters have all four lines hooked up. many converters are 'power-only' where only the power/ground lines are connected and the other two lines (data) are not.

So if i buy an ordinary pc hub that connects to power and the plug usb-to-microusb, it will work?

Well let it alone, ill buy a Bluetooth keyboard, will spare time and cables and converters ahahha

The Micro USB plug must be OTG (USB ON THE GO) or your phone won't recognize the peripheral. Also the advice given was correct, the phone USB port can't provide power to a peripheral device and so you must use a powered hub in between the phone and the peripheral device.
A USB OTG has pin 5 and pin 4 tied together in the Micro USB connector end to tell the phone to invoke OTG mode.

Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.

elementaldragon said:
Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.
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already been stated twice.

Samsung galaxy S3 OTG for USB 3. hard drives

Hi there,
I have a samsung galaxy S3 (rooted) and have recently purchased OTG cable. The problem is that when I connect s3 with Hitachi Touro (mobile USB 3.0) through OTG cable hard drive does appear in files. I have installed paragon NTFS and stickmount apps but it doesn't seem to connect even though a message keeps appearing "usb connector is connected". Hard drive gives a clicking sound when it is connected with S3 but works perfectly with the computer.
Does anyone know solution to this?
Thanks and regards

I've heard of some people having problems when connected to a usb 3.0 port on their computer and have to connect to a 2.0 port instead. Maybe related?
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DocHoliday77 said:
I've heard of some people having problems when connected to a usb 3.0 port on their computer and have to connect to a 2.0 port instead. Maybe related?
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USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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splatdotsplat said:
Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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Thanks for all the replies. Hard drive is not connected to power supply as it is portable.

Maazyazdani said:
Thanks for all the replies. Hard drive is not connected to power supply as it is portable.
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Splatdotsplat is correct. That clicking sound are the heads resetting to the park position. This usually happens when drives are not getting enough power. When the drive spins up it peaks its power consumption and cuts out because there is not enough so the heads reset. Portable or not that is the issue. I have seen this happen with some portable drives on computers (especially larger capacity). A lot of times the solution can be as simple as using a shorter cable. Sometimes it doesn't work.

as stated above, the only way to run external hdd's of any kind is to be sure they're powered, even some thumbdrives will draw more power than the phone can provide and you'll notice your batt life take a steep dive (as did my Galaxy Nexus w/otg on an HP 16gb thumbdrive)
power the drive through a powered hub and you're good to go!

splatdotsplat said:
Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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This is why i recommended using a USB powered HUB as the HUB will give enough power to the external hard drive.

elesbb said:
This is why i recommended using a USB powered HUB as the HUB will give enough power to the external hard drive.
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Having the same issue myself, otg cable with Samsung portable 500GB external HDD and stickmount pro works fine with my Nexus 7,but won't work with my Galaxy even though it recognises the HDD, so do you think a USB hub would be the solution, and can anyone recommend one
Thanks

Anyone?
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i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..

kemaro30 said:
i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
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Just to throw in some info. I do agree about the hdd not getting enough power as the cause for the clicking. I have a 500gb hitachi drive that does that if a long usb cable is used. The drive didn't come with a power adapter but instead came with a short usb cable that had two heads. allowing it to draw power from two ports. It also had a port for an adaptor though.
When testing with my Samsung Galaxy sIII It doesn't work unless I have the hd running via external power or have the second usb connector on the cable connected to a charging usb cable. Both options charge the phone while the hd is connected to the phone.
The usb cable with the double ports actually works well for me. I have the first port connected to the otg cable that I made and the second connection connected to a usb extender that is connected to my 2A tablet charger. That way I can charge at the same time.

esqueue said:
Just to throw in some info. I do agree about the hdd not getting enough power as the cause for the clicking. I have a 500gb hitachi drive that does that if a long usb cable is used. The drive didn't come with a power adapter but instead came with a short usb cable that had two heads. allowing it to draw power from two ports. It also had a port for an adaptor though.
When testing with my Samsung Galaxy sIII It doesn't work unless I have the hd running via external power or have the second usb connector on the cable connected to a charging usb cable. Both options charge the phone while the hd is connected to the phone.
The usb cable with the double ports actually works well for me. I have the first port connected to the otg cable that I made and the second connection connected to a usb extender that is connected to my 2A tablet charger. That way I can charge at the same time.
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Hi the problem i basically power as in the amount of current your device requires, i know that the standard specifications of the original 2.0 interface is about max 500mA and 5Vdc per port, in some cases the maximum output current is even smaller due to hardware restrictions, this can lead to difficulties when trying to power something like an external hard drive. Therefore a long cable will also give a problem due to the resistance of the material, because the required voltage level is not high enough.
I do not know if there is a spec sheet containing information about the output capabilities of the usb port, if there is one i recommend using that to match an external hard drives, if you do not want to use an external power supply.
Edit: you could also use an external power bank/battery pack but i seems a bit bulky

kemaro30 said:
i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
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Sure go out and buy me one and i'll test all day..
USB OTG works out of the box for low power devices. I havent seen/read anything stating USB 3.0 works on the S3. I have a 1TB hard drive my brother gave me, its not the newer ones that are ssd so it has a power adapter with it and it works perfectly with my S3. Going to be using it in a few minutes to back up my internal SD.

So guys I have the GT-I9300 ( Galaxy S3 ) and I have 1 TB WD My Passport
I'm plannig to buy the OTG piece ! so as of now is possible to connect the hardrive to the phone or not yet !?

Is there even a driver and an app to do such a thing? As I see it the USB port is configured as an external storage device to connect to a computer not the other way around. What you are doing is connecting two storage devices together. There's no way I would ever connect anything to my phones USB port that requires power. If I were to, it would be through a powered hub.

Hi Eles
elesbb said:
USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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I have read that you connected your S3 with external powered HDD. I bought yesterday the genuine samsung OTG cable and it is working only with memory stick and joystick controller. Don't know why it is not working with my external powered HDD - 500 GB WD. Any ideea ? My S3 is not rooted.
Thanks,
M.

No, nobody is going to have a recommendation for a powered USB hub.
It's a trivial, generic, piece of kit you buy nearly anywhere for under US$10 (unless you're a complete sucker.) Just make sure whatever you get *includes* a power supply.
Get one in the shape of a person, or a kitty cat, or a Tardis, whatever thrills you.

KurrentUser said:
Is there even a driver and an app to do such a thing? As I see it the USB port is configured as an external storage device to connect to a computer not the other way around. What you are doing is connecting two storage devices together. There's no way I would ever connect anything to my phones USB port that requires power. If I were to, it would be through a powered hub.
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that's not quite accurate. when you plug your phone into your PC, the drivers that you installed will see your phone as a usb device (or media device) and allow you to use your phone as such
an OTG (on-the-go) cable allows you to connect a storage device to your phone, such as a thumb drive or external hard drive (powered or not) and then your phone acts like your PC and uses that device as storage

elesbb said:
USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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I can confirm that in my case forcing my ADATA HV610 1 TB disk to USB 2.0 mode worked. The trick is to use a standard micro-USB cable (e.g. the one that comes with your charger) instead of the standard cable that comes with the HDD.
More detail:
The common USB 3 cable which comes with most new HDDs uses USB 3.0 Micro-B plug which, in practice, is a micro-USB with a "half-micro-USB" next to it. The part most people don't know is that you can use a common micro-USB cable (as the one from your charger) to connect your HDD to your PC (or other device) with the cost of loss of USB 3.0 compatibility. Which, in our case, is what we need, as this switch makes the HDD less power-hungry.
Post a comment if it works for other hard drives too (I think WD also use Micro-B connectors for their USB 3.0 Passports)

[Q] Need some help with connectivity issues

Hi I recently bought the Samsung Galaxy S3 MHL/HDMI Adapter so that I can mirror my Galaxy Note II to TV.
HTML:
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s3-mhlhdmi-adaptor
Basically what I'm trying to do is to be able to connect simultaneously this adapter with my external HDD 500Gb.
HTML:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intenso-6021530-500GB-External-Drive/dp/B0056ZOLXQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358358015&sr=8-1
That way I will be able to carry all my movies in the HDD and being able to play it through my mobile at TV.
Now when I connect the drive alone(non externally powered) to the mobile through USB OTG cable everything works fine.
That's the case when I connect the MHL adapter alone in the mobile. It works great.
My problem is when I try to connect BOTH the HDD and the adapter together. That way I can open my mobile navigate to my HDD and open the video file and play it at any given HDTV. But I can't find the right configuration to make it work. Now the first thing that comes into mind is a USB hub. I try to use this one I own with 3 slots I have but with no luck.
Code:
http://www.tomatoflash.com/products/product_detail.php?Cate=products&label=15&dSN=16&tSN=85&mSN=45#03
What I do is the following. I connect the HDD directly to the hub through usb. I use a usb to usb cable to power the hub. And on the third usb slot of the hub I power the MHL adapter. To the mobile goes the micro usb male cable of the MHL adapter.
Now what happens is that the MHL adapter as expected works fine, but the HDD, while it seems to power (green light on the HDD) cannot be recognized from the mobile.
I believe this happens for either 2 reasons.
First : There's no way the mobile can see the HDD through the hub this way (could an externally powered usb hub help I wonder??)
Second : I need to have a dual micro usb female to micro usb male cable (which doesn't exist??), so that I can directly connect both the HDD and the MHL adapter on the phone.
Below is a photo of the connectivity if it helps
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http://i50.tinypic.com/2myw2rl.jpg
So what do you think I'm doing wrong or what do you suggest in terms of connectivity?
Thanks in advance for your help and ask anything to clarify if I made things complicated
I'm sorry but I cannot post links because of my limited number of posts thus the "html"

[Q] 2.5" HDD

Hello,
I have a USB otg connection adapter and thumb drives and sd cards work fine. Higher power devices (external 2.5" HDD) don't work as they need more power. I have a Y usb cable for my external hard drive (one usb plug for data and one for extra power). Can I connect the data plug to my otg adapter and the other usb connector to a wall charger in order to make my Note work with my hard drive? Or am i going to break something in my Note as there are no diodes in the y-cable blocking current going from the wall charger into my Note?
edit: and if this works: any suggestions for the file structure? FAT is not ideal due to file size limitations and NTFS is not ideal due to licensing. Does the Note supports exFAT up to 1 TB?

Yes, you can. You can use a wall adapter, a powered USB hub or like me, a portable battery with USB output that lets you use that HDD on the go.

Szadzik said:
Yes, you can. You can use a wall adapter, a powered USB hub or like me, a portable battery with USB output that lets you use that HDD on the go.
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I've noticed that the 10.1 won't power some things like a 2.5" portable drive that my Note 2 can power just fine. Not sure if there is a reason for this and it's working as intended or just a bug?

gmkelly001 said:
I've noticed that the 10.1 won't power some things like a 2.5" portable drive that my Note 2 can power just fine. Not sure if there is a reason for this and it's working as intended or just a bug?
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It is only by a fluke that the Note 1 powers an HDD. These devices are not designed to power anything but USB sticks. Not sure if there is enough juice to power a USB3 stick so do not look for bugs or solutions as this is not a bug but that how the device is designed.

[Q] External Hard Drive woes...

Not sure if this is the correct place for this, first time posting.
So I'm having a hell of a time getting my Western Digital 2TB external drive to connect to my Nexus 7 2013. I have both Stickmount and Nexus Media Importer installed, and I'm rooted with Cyanogenmod, and I have a working OTG cable.
I know that the Nexus 7 doesn't have enough power to support most external hard drives that use a USB for power. So I bought a 12000mAh external battery with a 5V 2.1A output USB port, and a 4-port (unpowered) USB hub from Radioshack.
Along with those, I had to hunt down a male-to-male standard USB cable in order to connect the female port on the hub to the female port of the OTG cable (using the standard USB-to-micro doesn't work, because for some reason the OTG cable is specifically required to mount USB devices on Android, as you guys probably know).
After finally getting the male-to-male cord today, I tried hooking it up and still no luck. NMI detects the OTG cable but cannot detect the external drive. It works just fine with a flash drive.
Now after looking at the reviews of the USB hub on the site that I linked to, I'm thinking it may be the problem. If you look in the comments you have multiple people stating that this specific hub doesn't play well with many external drives. I haven't had any troubles with it through my PC, but you never know. I've also tried switching between the USB 3.0 cable that came with the drive to a standard USB-to-micro charge/data cable (with no luck), because I've read that NMI doesn't support USB 3.0
Does anyone have any advice or experience with this kind of thing? I'm thinking I may need to find a Y adapter that has one female and two male plugs so I'm not having to go through a potentially-crappy USB hub. But I'm not sure if that'll actually fix the problem or not. From searching around on the web a bit, it seems that connecting this specific drive with the Nexus 7 shouldn't be all that difficult, there's plenty of simple guides out there to demonstrate.
Just to recap, here's my connection process:
- Connect USB hub to external batter (2.1A port), make sure battery is ON
- Connect USB from External Drive to an open port on the hub
- Connect male-to-male USB cable to another port on the hub
- Connect M2M cable to the OTG cable
- Connect OTG cable to Nexus 7 (while on, with 90%+ battery)
- Nothing happens
EDIT - Would have included links to the specific devices, but I'm new to XDA so they won't let me post link yet.

I have a WD 1TB USB3 external drive. The only way I got it to work was by installing Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+ (Available on the Play store), connecting the drive through a normal OTG cable, and rebooting the Nexus WITH the cable connected. Yes, I have to reboot every time with the OTG cable plugged in. I can plug/unplug devices as much as I want, but once the OTG is unplugged, I have to do another reboot; it's annoying, but it is better than nothing. Give this a shot.
Also, what ROM/Kernel are you running?

is the drive formatted as NTFS or exFAT? maybe try the ElementalX kernel as it supports both formats for USB OTG and see if that helps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389022
edit- just remembered that i came across extra files on the Stickmount XDA page a while back that lets Stickmount support NTFS and exFAT drives, if flashing a custom kernel isn't your thing then you could try that..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400034

I finally got it to work, and now I just feel foolish.
I just needed to switch two cords. I had the male end of the USB hub plugged into the battery, and then the external drive and male-to-male USB plugged into the hub. The male-to-male cord then went to the OTG and the tablet. This apparently didn't let the data/power through correctly.
I went down to the local computer shop and the guy showed me that I was doing it wrong. Instead of using the hub's male end to hook up to the battery, I needed to use the m2m cord for that. The male end of the hub now connects to the OTG, and it works like a charm. I have to make sure to power up the drive and give it a second before connecting it, but Stickmount detects it right away and I have all my content.
I was pretty sure I'd tried every configuration and that I'd need a Y cable for sure, but I'm glad that's not the case even though I feel like an idiot now, haha.