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Micro Usb To Mini USb to Normal USB

I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM

Lordareon said:
I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM
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you will not be able to plug in a USB peripheral (mouse, keyboard) directly into the phone. it will not work.
you can, however, purchase a +5V powered USB hub (that plugs into the wall), and use that to plug into the phone and plug your KB/mouse into the hub, and it should work. you can find such hubs at www.dealextreme.com
to further answer your question, USB-___USB converters will work as long as the converters have all four lines hooked up. many converters are 'power-only' where only the power/ground lines are connected and the other two lines (data) are not.

So if i buy an ordinary pc hub that connects to power and the plug usb-to-microusb, it will work?

Well let it alone, ill buy a Bluetooth keyboard, will spare time and cables and converters ahahha

The Micro USB plug must be OTG (USB ON THE GO) or your phone won't recognize the peripheral. Also the advice given was correct, the phone USB port can't provide power to a peripheral device and so you must use a powered hub in between the phone and the peripheral device.
A USB OTG has pin 5 and pin 4 tied together in the Micro USB connector end to tell the phone to invoke OTG mode.

Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.

elementaldragon said:
Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.
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already been stated twice.

The Galaxy Nexus, and Android phones in general, need more USB ports

Having a single USB port to deal with USB OTG, charging, data transfer as well as HDMI will not cut it for much longer.
We've gotten to the stage where our phones are pretty much fully-fledged computers in our pockets, and a single USB port handling all of this will soon become an uncomfortable compromise.
Right now, I don't believe it's possible to use your Galaxy Nexus to play videos from a USB flash drive and charge it at the same time. I don't believe it's possible to connect your phone to your TV through MHL and also connect a USB device (mouse/keyboard/storage).
Nokia knew this over a year ago. The N8 has separate ports for HDMI and USB, as well as a SECOND port for charging. Yo dawg, I heard you like charging, so we put a secondary charging port on your N8 so you can charge while you charge! Shame that the N8 was a crap smartphone, along with all other Nokia flagships since the N95 8GB.
Or am I completely wrong and it is actually possible to do all this simultaneously with a single USB port?

a usb hub?

Its a Samsung thing. My Motorola phones have a HDMI port and micro USB plug also my Motorola phones a SD card slot
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Usb hub works fine.
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@rbiter said:
Usb hub works fine.
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how to connect a usb hub?? (USB OTG / UST MHL HDMI / USB Storgae at the same time??)
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Can the above connection working?
and i think it is difficult to get a micro-USB socket hub...

Instead of more ports, I'd love to see a hub-like device made especially for phones. It would plug into the phone's microUSB port and give you two more microUSB ports (one for charging, one for computer), two full-size USB host ports (for flash drives, keyboards, etc.), an HDMI port, and a microSD slot.

Is the GN MHL compatible? Also if I remember correctly the MHL adapter has a micro usb port for charging because MHL adapters have to be plugged into the charger to work

WhiterThanWhite said:
Having a single USB port to deal with USB OTG, charging, data transfer as well as HDMI will not cut it for much longer.
We've gotten to the stage where our phones are pretty much fully-fledged computers in our pockets, and a single USB port handling all of this will soon become an uncomfortable compromise.
Right now, I don't believe it's possible to use your Galaxy Nexus to play videos from a USB flash drive and charge it at the same time. I don't believe it's possible to connect your phone to your TV through MHL and also connect a USB device (mouse/keyboard/storage).
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In what situation are you needing to plug a flash drive into your phone, and simultaneously streaming that video to a TV? I could maybe see keyboard/mouse for gaming... but is that really happening right now?
I'm just interested in the real-world application of needing more than 1 port...
mcp2009 said:
Is the GN MHL compatible? Also if I remember correctly the MHL adapter has a micro usb port for charging because MHL adapters have to be plugged into the charger to work
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Yes it is, and yes they do.
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phazerorg said:
Instead of more ports, I'd love to see a hub-like device made especially for phones. It would plug into the phone's microUSB port and give you two more microUSB ports (one for charging, one for computer), two full-size USB host ports (for flash drives, keyboards, etc.), an HDMI port, and a microSD slot.
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A docking station with additional ports is the much easier way to solve this than putting 3 micro USB ports on every phone... Similar to the way that laptops have docks for ports.

Samsung galaxy S3 OTG for USB 3. hard drives

Hi there,
I have a samsung galaxy S3 (rooted) and have recently purchased OTG cable. The problem is that when I connect s3 with Hitachi Touro (mobile USB 3.0) through OTG cable hard drive does appear in files. I have installed paragon NTFS and stickmount apps but it doesn't seem to connect even though a message keeps appearing "usb connector is connected". Hard drive gives a clicking sound when it is connected with S3 but works perfectly with the computer.
Does anyone know solution to this?
Thanks and regards

I've heard of some people having problems when connected to a usb 3.0 port on their computer and have to connect to a 2.0 port instead. Maybe related?
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DocHoliday77 said:
I've heard of some people having problems when connected to a usb 3.0 port on their computer and have to connect to a 2.0 port instead. Maybe related?
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USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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splatdotsplat said:
Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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Thanks for all the replies. Hard drive is not connected to power supply as it is portable.

Maazyazdani said:
Thanks for all the replies. Hard drive is not connected to power supply as it is portable.
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Splatdotsplat is correct. That clicking sound are the heads resetting to the park position. This usually happens when drives are not getting enough power. When the drive spins up it peaks its power consumption and cuts out because there is not enough so the heads reset. Portable or not that is the issue. I have seen this happen with some portable drives on computers (especially larger capacity). A lot of times the solution can be as simple as using a shorter cable. Sometimes it doesn't work.

as stated above, the only way to run external hdd's of any kind is to be sure they're powered, even some thumbdrives will draw more power than the phone can provide and you'll notice your batt life take a steep dive (as did my Galaxy Nexus w/otg on an HP 16gb thumbdrive)
power the drive through a powered hub and you're good to go!

splatdotsplat said:
Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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This is why i recommended using a USB powered HUB as the HUB will give enough power to the external hard drive.

elesbb said:
This is why i recommended using a USB powered HUB as the HUB will give enough power to the external hard drive.
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Having the same issue myself, otg cable with Samsung portable 500GB external HDD and stickmount pro works fine with my Nexus 7,but won't work with my Galaxy even though it recognises the HDD, so do you think a USB hub would be the solution, and can anyone recommend one
Thanks

Anyone?
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i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..

kemaro30 said:
i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
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Just to throw in some info. I do agree about the hdd not getting enough power as the cause for the clicking. I have a 500gb hitachi drive that does that if a long usb cable is used. The drive didn't come with a power adapter but instead came with a short usb cable that had two heads. allowing it to draw power from two ports. It also had a port for an adaptor though.
When testing with my Samsung Galaxy sIII It doesn't work unless I have the hd running via external power or have the second usb connector on the cable connected to a charging usb cable. Both options charge the phone while the hd is connected to the phone.
The usb cable with the double ports actually works well for me. I have the first port connected to the otg cable that I made and the second connection connected to a usb extender that is connected to my 2A tablet charger. That way I can charge at the same time.

esqueue said:
Just to throw in some info. I do agree about the hdd not getting enough power as the cause for the clicking. I have a 500gb hitachi drive that does that if a long usb cable is used. The drive didn't come with a power adapter but instead came with a short usb cable that had two heads. allowing it to draw power from two ports. It also had a port for an adaptor though.
When testing with my Samsung Galaxy sIII It doesn't work unless I have the hd running via external power or have the second usb connector on the cable connected to a charging usb cable. Both options charge the phone while the hd is connected to the phone.
The usb cable with the double ports actually works well for me. I have the first port connected to the otg cable that I made and the second connection connected to a usb extender that is connected to my 2A tablet charger. That way I can charge at the same time.
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Hi the problem i basically power as in the amount of current your device requires, i know that the standard specifications of the original 2.0 interface is about max 500mA and 5Vdc per port, in some cases the maximum output current is even smaller due to hardware restrictions, this can lead to difficulties when trying to power something like an external hard drive. Therefore a long cable will also give a problem due to the resistance of the material, because the required voltage level is not high enough.
I do not know if there is a spec sheet containing information about the output capabilities of the usb port, if there is one i recommend using that to match an external hard drives, if you do not want to use an external power supply.
Edit: you could also use an external power bank/battery pack but i seems a bit bulky

kemaro30 said:
i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
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Sure go out and buy me one and i'll test all day..
USB OTG works out of the box for low power devices. I havent seen/read anything stating USB 3.0 works on the S3. I have a 1TB hard drive my brother gave me, its not the newer ones that are ssd so it has a power adapter with it and it works perfectly with my S3. Going to be using it in a few minutes to back up my internal SD.

So guys I have the GT-I9300 ( Galaxy S3 ) and I have 1 TB WD My Passport
I'm plannig to buy the OTG piece ! so as of now is possible to connect the hardrive to the phone or not yet !?

Is there even a driver and an app to do such a thing? As I see it the USB port is configured as an external storage device to connect to a computer not the other way around. What you are doing is connecting two storage devices together. There's no way I would ever connect anything to my phones USB port that requires power. If I were to, it would be through a powered hub.

Hi Eles
elesbb said:
USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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I have read that you connected your S3 with external powered HDD. I bought yesterday the genuine samsung OTG cable and it is working only with memory stick and joystick controller. Don't know why it is not working with my external powered HDD - 500 GB WD. Any ideea ? My S3 is not rooted.
Thanks,
M.

No, nobody is going to have a recommendation for a powered USB hub.
It's a trivial, generic, piece of kit you buy nearly anywhere for under US$10 (unless you're a complete sucker.) Just make sure whatever you get *includes* a power supply.
Get one in the shape of a person, or a kitty cat, or a Tardis, whatever thrills you.

KurrentUser said:
Is there even a driver and an app to do such a thing? As I see it the USB port is configured as an external storage device to connect to a computer not the other way around. What you are doing is connecting two storage devices together. There's no way I would ever connect anything to my phones USB port that requires power. If I were to, it would be through a powered hub.
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that's not quite accurate. when you plug your phone into your PC, the drivers that you installed will see your phone as a usb device (or media device) and allow you to use your phone as such
an OTG (on-the-go) cable allows you to connect a storage device to your phone, such as a thumb drive or external hard drive (powered or not) and then your phone acts like your PC and uses that device as storage

elesbb said:
USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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I can confirm that in my case forcing my ADATA HV610 1 TB disk to USB 2.0 mode worked. The trick is to use a standard micro-USB cable (e.g. the one that comes with your charger) instead of the standard cable that comes with the HDD.
More detail:
The common USB 3 cable which comes with most new HDDs uses USB 3.0 Micro-B plug which, in practice, is a micro-USB with a "half-micro-USB" next to it. The part most people don't know is that you can use a common micro-USB cable (as the one from your charger) to connect your HDD to your PC (or other device) with the cost of loss of USB 3.0 compatibility. Which, in our case, is what we need, as this switch makes the HDD less power-hungry.
Post a comment if it works for other hard drives too (I think WD also use Micro-B connectors for their USB 3.0 Passports)

[Q] If I use a usb hub, can I attach an ethernet port, and have the device charging?

Title says it all, has anyone tried this?

From what I've read (and the other threads on this topic) - no it can't be done.

It can't be done my friend

I got it to work
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It can't be done my friend
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I used the following and plugged into my TV usb port and had ethernet (verfied with WIFI shut off) and it was charging.
USB 2.0 Ethernet adapter - <amazon.com/gp/product/B003VSTDFG>
OTG with power - <amazon.com/gp/product/B00C452XFO/>

Yup, this now works great for me too! :good:
I bought the Ethernet adapter Nvidia Recommends (same as browncoatdave's)
http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Gigabit-Ethernet-Chromebook-Specific/dp/B003VSTDFG
And just whatever Y cable could find that didn't look uber cheap.
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXAC1ZW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

What I have plugged into the shield
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Title says it all, has anyone tried this?
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1) 3 Port USB Hub
2) Plugable USB 2.0 to 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN Wired Network Adapter
3) Micro USB Host OTG Cable with Micro USB Power
4) Smart Touch Mini USB TouchPad Keyboard
5) Full Size trackball mouse
6) Charging cord
I am charging the battery with ethernet, keyboard and mouse plugged in.
No Problem. But this is also after the kitkat update which added the charging while ethernet is plugged in.

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1) 3 Port USB Hub
2) Plugable USB 2.0 to 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN Wired Network Adapter
3) Micro USB Host OTG Cable with Micro USB Power
4) Smart Touch Mini USB TouchPad Keyboard
5) Full Size trackball mouse
6) Charging cord
I am charging the battery with ethernet, keyboard and mouse plugged in.
No Problem. But this is also after the kitkat update which added the charging while ethernet is plugged in.
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trackball mouse, why? gives me flashbacks of the 90s...

solidsn said:
1) 3 Port USB Hub
2) Plugable USB 2.0 to 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN Wired Network Adapter
3) Micro USB Host OTG Cable with Micro USB Power
4) Smart Touch Mini USB TouchPad Keyboard
5) Full Size trackball mouse
6) Charging cord
I am charging the battery with ethernet, keyboard and mouse plugged in.
No Problem. But this is also after the kitkat update which added the charging while ethernet is plugged in.
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Did you plug all the devices in a particular order? I noticed that if I plug in my charger AFTER I plug in the OTG cable into the shield, then it is not charging. But when I plug in the charger into the OTG cable and then plug it into shield, it is charging.
Is your hub powered? What exact model is it? I am asking because I have very similar setup to yours but the shield does not detect USB devices connected to the hub - it's this one: http: // esperanza . pl/esperanza-usb-2-0-hub-4-porty-ea116,182,437.html
I can connect one usb device directly to OTG cable and it works, but when I connect a hub, it no longer works.

There is a cheap way to do this if you have the soldering skills, and are willing to try it.
Get a cheap USB "Travel" hub.
Open it up, and replace the Upstream USB cable with an OTG cable (A scrap Micro-USB cable may or may not work. The connector must be Properly wired for OTG).
Remove the main power diode in the USB hub, and solder jumper the 2 pads where it was. A Multimeter in continuity mode can help you find the right component, but it takes some experience. There usually is not much in a cheap travel hub, so I can usually find them just by looking, but like I say, only try this if you have the experience, and you know what you are looking for.
Power the hub through it's 5V power jack (if it has one), or you can add a power only micro-USB socket. (Only connect the (+) and (-) power pins, do not connect the data lines. Connect it to any one of the Full size USB port's power pins. Observe polarity.)
Voila! You now have 4 Full size USB ports, it will charge your device, and provide power (Up to the rated power of the AC adapter) for your USB devices.
I did this years ago in the Nokia 770 days. It was one of the first consumer devices that supported USB OTG. Article still exists here:
http://www.linuxslate.org/N770DockingStation.html (Scroll down to the "Electronic Components" Section)

Would this work?
Would this: SODIAL(R) Micro USB Host OTG Cable with Micro USB Power plus this: Anker® Unibody 3-Port USB 3.0 and Ethernet Hub
Give me the ability to charge tablet, use Ethernet and additionally connect USB mouse and keyboard, and possibly charge Nvidia Game Controller?
Or would it just be a waste of time and money

[Q] USB peripherals

There doesn't seem to be much documentation on the USB port on the Fire TV, and I have a couple of questions regarding it.
1. The port seems to be powered, as I have seen people talk about stand alone drives. Is there anywhere that documents the actual power output in amps and volts? Is it the same as a standard USB port on a computer? I'd like to connect a splitter with a 1TB WD drive and a wireless mouse/keyboard combination, but I don't really want to buy a powered hub.
2. Is there a proper shutdown procedure for the USB port so as not to fry it? I had a motherboard go bad on a computer many years ago because I would remove a wireless mouse without properly disconnecting it. I would hate to do that to the only port on this piece of equipment.
Thanks