The phone itself is really nice. There are few functions that I would like a dial-up, and a couple of critiques.
These are all connected in some way to Google assistant I believe.
1: the phone will not activate using the voice phrase, unless I unlock the phone first. This defeats me using the phone hands-free while I drive. Also, when the screen goes into sleep mode, the phone will not respond okay Google or hey Google at all.
2: when I tell Google voice assistant "take a picture" it opens the camera app, but does not snap a picture I Once again I have to do it manually. I'd like to just say it and have it take the picture.
3: I have heard that there will be a change that will allow people to create a custom wake up phrase? That would be great
4: Since I have the fingerprint scanner, I do not want to use the pin or any other screen lock. Is there a way to turn these features off and simply used the fingerprint scanner?
Thanks again, thanks for your patience while I Noob out on this new product.
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papamalo said:
The phone itself is really nice. There are few functions that I would like a dial-up, and a couple of critiques.
These are all connected in some way to Google assistant I believe.
1: the phone will not activate using the voice phrase, unless I unlock the phone first. This defeats me using the phone hands-free while I drive. Also, when the screen goes into sleep mode, the phone will not respond okay Google or hey Google at all.
2: when I tell Google voice assistant "take a picture" it opens the camera app, but does not snap a picture I Once again I have to do it manually. I'd like to just say it and have it take the picture.
3: I have heard that there will be a change that will allow people to create a custom wake up phrase? That would be great
4: Since I have the fingerprint scanner, I do not want to use the pin or any other screen lock. Is there a way to turn these features off and simply used the fingerprint scanner?
Thanks again, thanks for your patience while I Noob out on this new product.
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I guess you are on miui? miui is not really google-smart-lock friendly, and i think not all smart-lock features are supported by miui. you could install some miui-xposed modules or you should try out a custom rom like omni or rr then all your problems are gone.
You can voice unlock your phone, but your screen must be on. You cant unlock your phone while locked + screen off with your voice.
Taking a picture by voice is working for me without any problems, but i guess this is because i am on a custom rom.
You could remove your pin/pattern by deleting some files in twrp, but this is not recommended at all. Its always better to have a backup for your fingerprint and you dont need to use your pin at all anyway, since you just put your finger on the sensor and it will unlock your phone without a pin/pattern.
If you dont want to unlock/root your phone then you have to live with some missing features i guess, but you should give Android Auto a try, if you use your phone alot while driving.
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One thing that I liked about ICS is quick access to camera from the lock screen - but it wasn't secure. You can only select one method of locking from the Security list in Settings.
Is there a way (current, or can someone create) to use some of those locking mechanisms in serial instead of selecting just one?
Current from Lock Screen:
Camera <--Swipe --> Use Phone
(no security) OR
Face Unlock --> Use Phone
(no camera)OR
Pin --> Use Phone
(no camera)
Requested:
For example using on the lock screen:
Camera <--Swipe --> Face Unlock -> use Phone
(the camera can start to load as soon as the power button is hit, so by the time you swipe either direction, it's loaded and ready)
I tried Go Locker but it was too heavy and created a lot of lag.
Wouldn't do any good, once in the camera app hitting home would take you home even if there is a lock screen password/pin/other lock mechanism
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BUMP.
I also REALLY miss this feature. Just think of the advantages.
I use my phoen a lot just to see what time it is, because I don't where a watch every day. Everytime I turn the screen up it fires up the front cam which can't really be that good for the battery. Plus, it's such a burden having to choose between fast acces to the camera and NO security or any kind of security but no fast access to the camera.
Anyone know of an app that can do this? Slide left: Face Unlock. Slide right: Camera.
And to vlx600d: that's not true. Phones with ICS have the same feature. Unlock to camera, take pictures. Press the home button and you get back to the unlock screen.
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BUMP.
I also REALLY miss this feature. Just think of the advantages.
I use my phoen a lot just to see what time it is, because I don't where a watch every day. Everytime I turn the screen up it fires up the front cam which can't really be that good for the battery. Plus, it's such a burden having to choose between fast acces to the camera and NO security or any kind of security but no fast access to the camera.
Anyone know of an app that can do this? Slide left: Face Unlock. Slide right: Camera.
And to vlx600d: that's not true. Phones with ICS have the same feature. Unlock to camera, take pictures. Press the home button and you get back to the unlock screen.
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This needs framework changes that deal with security, etc. No app can change how the os handles the face unlock process. You can try posting in gummy/aokp/cm9 threads. Maybe one of the developers would accept to make this mod.
I really dont think this would work without some serious reworking of the OS.
i remember there being a bug with a phone (cant remember which one) where, when using a secure lock screen, they could press the "emergency call" button, then just hit the home button and they were in. same concept here. if you could do this, once in the camera app, all you would have to do is hit "home" and you would be in.
The whole reason is fit fast access. Its no longer fast if you have to put in a code or wait for it to recognize it. Thus defeating the purpose to have the option. I understand the complaint though, its definitely not fair that you can't go straight to it if you want your phone safe.
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Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?
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Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?
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Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.
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Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
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It turns off when I disable S Voice. If I try to turn it back on, it tells me I need to enable S Voice first.
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.
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And does that let you use "Ok Google" recognition from all screens (including the lockscreen)? For me, that option in the Google Now settings is greyed out unless I disable S Voice.
No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.
Exactly correct.
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No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.
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Works great. Thank you!
Ok Google Fix
This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.
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This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.
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Used to
Worked at stage 3. Reenabling S Voice rebroke OkGoogle. RE Disabled S Voice. All that's changed is either the screen must be on or it must be plugged in. Like my Note Pro. Used to just need to be on..screen off and all.
That's a change with Lollipop and not a "problem." (now it is screen on or charging) It appears Ok Google no longer works with the screen off by design, at least on the Note 4.
I can keep S Voice on after doing the steps. (Though I have since turned it off) Try doing all the steps and while in safe mode turn off then on the settings. It's possible this makes Ok Google the "default" over S Voice.
Still getting used to this phone, and the couple of disappointments that came with it.
Maybe with the right ROM, I can fix this?
I need a ROM that will:
- Allow me to use google camera app
- Allow me to use my google voice assistant wake up phrase to wake up my phone WITHOUT TOUCHING IT.
- Allow me to tell google assistant to "take a picture" and have it take a picture, without me touching the screen
- Allow me to answer phone calls with one touch.
I don't want any new themes or colors or anything. I use Nova Launcher, and have an all-black desktop with all black hidden buttons.
Which ROM is the best one for me?
Thanks!
you should start with lineage i think which is about to become official and you can use google camera on it but i dont think our phone can ever have the ability to wake device etc without touching. Perhaps your coming from a motorola device where you can talk to the phone to carry out actions but that is hardware related which this phone doesnt have like always listening mic.
I agree with @sam00561. But for always listening assistant there's a mod to enable it I think (it'll use more battery but if it's a must for you then would work for you).
Assistant takes selfies if you have google camera installed. And that call thing is configurable.
But really, starting with official los helps a lot.
Currently I have double tap to wake with Smart lock enabled. Unfortunately it takes me to lock screen and I have to swipe to go to home screen. Is there any Tasker plugin or any other way to go to home screen instead of lock screen on double tap? I have tried Tasker with my limited knowledge, but couldn't achieve it...
Update: Achieved with Tasker
Try AutoInput
rickysidhu_ said:
Try AutoInput
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Can we not achieve that in Tasker without AutoInput?
ram4ufriends said:
Can we not achieve that in Tasker without AutoInput?
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To be completely honest I'm not too sure since I don't use the feature myself. I did see it somewhere in that plugin though, which is why I recommended it.
rickysidhu_ said:
To be completely honest I'm not too sure since I don't use the feature myself. I did see it somewhere in that plugin though, which is why I recommended it.
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Thanks, will try that
I have the same problem / need. I use smartlock based on android wear watch paired with my galaxy S9, which means I never have to enter my pin, but for some silly reason whenever I wake up the phone using tasker I still can't get past the slide to unlock.
My current workaround which meets my immediate needs (maybe not yours).... on my phone which I carry in a holster on my hip is to use fingerprint sensor to manually unlock while the phone is in the holster. I also have a tasker task to vibrate upon unlock (bypasses slide to unlock) which gives feedback when I'm successful. Surprisingly, fingerprint sensor doesn't care which way you rotate your finger on the sensor - it still recognizes it.
After I unlock the phone I initiate actions from my smartwatch - things like initiating google voice search in a way that preserves my preferred note to self behavior (goes to google keep including transcript and recording... doesn't work if you start google voice search by saying ok google)
electricpete1 said:
I have the same problem / need. I use smartlock based on android wear watch paired with my galaxy S9, which means I never have to enter my pin, but for some silly reason whenever I wake up the phone using tasker I still can't get past the slide to unlock.
My current workaround which meets my immediate needs (maybe not yours).... on my phone which I carry in a holster on my hip is to use fingerprint sensor to manually unlock while the phone is in the holster. I also have a tasker task to vibrate upon unlock (bypasses slide to unlock) which gives feedback when I'm successful. Surprisingly, fingerprint sensor doesn't care which way you rotate your finger on the sensor - it still recognizes it.
After I unlock the phone I initiate actions from my smartwatch - things like initiating google voice search in a way that preserves my preferred note to self behavior (goes to google keep including transcript and recording... doesn't work if you start google voice search by saying ok google)
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I was able to achieve this with Tasker and AutoTools.. now my phone directly goes to home screen when connected to my watch or wifi
ram4ufriends said:
I was able to achieve this with Tasker and AutoTools.. now my phone directly goes to home screen when connected to my watch or wifi
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Can you explain step by step please?
Just install AutoInput from playstore (it's not free), it has an option to unlock the screen automatically if you have FaceUnlock enabled.
Hi there, Please help me with this weird bug in my MM3's lock function. I haven't read about it anywhere else and I did not update or tweak my rooted system in any way so I'm at a loss as to what caused this probleman d how to fix it.
I am no longer able to employ a simple numerical or pattern screen lock. I go to settings, choose and then confirm the number or pattern, and hit accept -- at which point it asks me for a fingerprint (which I do not want to add) and when I hit cancel, the phone remains unlocked. If I hit add a fingerprint and refuse to present my finger, the phone also remains unlocked. This is so freaking weird!
(MM3 rooted but on stock Android 9 PKQ1.181007.001 -- Miui Global 11.0.6 Stable)
Honestly, I wouldn't give a damn as I never use a screen lock except I am in fact forced to use it every few weeks or whenever I want to review my Brave browser passwords. It forces me to set a lock screen in order to see them. So if there's a workaround just to see passwords, that would do me fine.
Because the basic number and pattern locks aren't functioning properly, I wouldn't even consider adding a fingerprint (and in fact, I have never done so. I have a probably irrational distrust of fingerprint, voice and retina security ... plus I live alone so such measures aren't necessary)
Can anyone give me any clues as to what could be causing this and how to fix it or get around it? Or even if there is a way to see my Brave passwords without employing a lock?
Theoretically, I could try temporarily installing a fingerprint lock which I could then remove after reviewing my Brave passwords. But I have an irrational dislike of fingerprint, voice and retina locks and never use that stuff. Moreover, given the basic number and gesture locks aren't functioning properly, the last thing I want to do is try a fingerprint.