Im wondering if the camera from the Google Pixel could be installed in the G4. The physical camera, not the software, well the software too.....
I have seen that its possible to instal the kdz for the google camera w AI. I have seen the quality of photos the pixel can make, I have tried (ok Im trying) to install the G4 camera in my G3, but it requires some chassis mods).
I have read all I can about the cameras in the Pixel, and the G4. i think they are both made by sony.
they look the same (comparing pictures of products for sale on ebay)
could one just pop out the stock camera and install the other? Is there some kind of system check that is performed before boot?
why or why not?
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alan
It could work if connection are the same but it's not so easy. Anyway after changing the camera you'll need also a Rom supporting it with correct "Drivers" or you'll have only a bunch of errors XD
Someone reached to do camera swap in really similar phones.
yobooh said:
It could work if connection are the same but it's not so easy. Anyway after changing the camera you'll need also a Rom supporting it with correct "Drivers" or you'll have only a bunch of errors XD
Someone reached to do camera swap in really similar phones.
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I do think the connectors are the same.
I know its a Sony, I have found the API's how do you disassemble them into the individual components?
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Alan
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I got really exited about the new OP Three, there are just a few aspects I don't like, one of them being 120fps filming instead of 240fps. I'm a complete noob, but I'm trying to inderstand why it can't record 240fps videos. As far as I know, our processor (SD820) can manage 240fps (see S7/G5), and I guess our camera sensor can too (IMX298), but I couldn't find that information.
Anyway, previously I was interested in getting slow motion on a DSLR camera (Canon EOS 700D), but I found some reasons why it would't be possible: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/in...r0ic25ieqeee0&topic=11570.msg113776#msg113776
I know there are lots of differences between a smartphone and a DSLR camera, but what I found interesting was this:
3. The internal buses that move the raw data from the sensor to the image processors can't handle that much data (1920*1080*14bit*60fps = 1.7 Gigabits per second)
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OP3 can record [email protected] video, which would require 3840×2160×30fps=248832000 bits/s, while HD 240fps video would require 720×1280×240fps=221184000 bits/s (I'm not taking into account color depth since I assume it'd be the same in both cases).
Furthermore, some time ago, when camera2 api was first released, PkmX achieved 120fps and 4K on a nexus 5, which couldn't officially do that and had a far older sensor.
Since OP3 will be really developer-friendly and its sources are already available, do you think it'll be possible for developers to get 240fps, even on low res videos? Can you think of anything that could be a limitation?
Anyway, if I buy the phone eventually, I'll learn a bit about development and try to get it.
(Maybe I should mention that I found this digging into the sources, but I don't even know if it's related
iamthex said:
do you think it'll be possible for developers to get 240fps, even on low res videos? Can you think of anything that could be a limitation?
Anyway, if I buy the phone eventually, I'll learn a bit about development and try to get it.
(Maybe I should mention that I found this digging into the sources, but I don't even know if it's related
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you know the nexus 5x initially just had 120 fps and now it has a 240 fps mod, but thats due to the fact that google camera had just restricted it directly inthe apk itself, people just edited the google camera and BANG 240 fps on the nexus 5x.. oneplus3 could be a different story. i really wish it had it though, im like so close to buying this phone ! in the end i might just end up with the nexus 6p due to this feature
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you know the nexus 5x initially just had 120 fps and now it has a 240 fps mod, but thats due to the fact that google camera had just restricted it directly inthe apk itself, people just edited the google camera and BANG 240 fps on the nexus 5x.. oneplus3 could be a different story. i really wish it had it though, im like so close to buying this phone ! in the end i might just end up with the nexus 6p due to this feature
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I bought the 3. So far it's not looking good. It looks like the camera2 API implementation is broken for photos and who knows what for video.
They released some source and made a big show about it, but there is still proprietary code they haven't released and may never--they never did with the One which still has no camera2.
Might want to hold out on the 3 for things to settle and by that time the new Sony should be out with a much better sensor.
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I bought the 3. So far it's not looking good. It looks like the camera2 API implementation is broken for photos and who knows what for video.
They released some source and made a big show about it, but there is still proprietary code they haven't released and may never--they never did with the One which still has no camera2.
Might want to hold out on the 3 for things to settle and by that time the new Sony should be out with a much better sensor.
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i already placed my order :\ , i read somewhere that the external apps are working with camera2 api ! i dont remember which thread in xda but its there , one person was not working, others confirmed working
I would like to buy a oneplus 3, however the camera is concerning me
According to sample photos, the camera doesn't perform as well as hoped for.
Is it possible to change the module by the latest sony IMX316 for example? It would give a great addition to the already amazing phone
c4d3r said:
I would like to buy a oneplus 3, however the camera is concerning me
According to sample photos, the camera doesn't perform as well as hoped for.
Is it possible to change the module by the latest sony IMX316 for example? It would give a great addition to the already amazing phone
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lol of course no. it's not a modular phone. And the camera sensor (sony imx298 ) in my opinion is actually really good. Might not be as good as the s7 one but it's very close to that. Also the developers i suppose will be able to improve the algorithm to make it even better.
Camera isnt best.. But it's good..
Well, i was just wondering if it can be upgraded in the future by changing the camera sensor module (screwing phone open, clipping new one). Perhaps by changing drivers
The best you could hope for would be software updates that might help the camera processing. You'll never be able to switch the sensor module. If you don't like the camera and that's a deal breaker then don't get this phone. Personally I think the camera samples are pretty good. If I need something more then I'll pull out the A6300 and use it instead.
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Camera isnt best.. But it's good..
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how about it camera ? better or worse than nexus 6p? sold my 6p and ordered OP3 last day, i will get my device next Thursday
just wonder, since 6P camera is good
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I would like to buy a oneplus 3, however the camera is concerning me
According to sample photos, the camera doesn't perform as well as hoped for.
Is it possible to change the module by the latest sony IMX316 for example? It would give a great addition to the already amazing phone
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Err, how many phones are modable in such a manner? Might as well as if you can use it to floss your teeth.
Heya guys, I was wondering when the pixel camera will be ported to the mi5s? Can someone tell me what we will need first and the likelihood of it happening out of 10? also what is the chance of unlocking the mi5s's bands if/when the mi5's bands are unlocked out of 10? I'm still wondering if I should purchase this phone or wait for the mi6. The main reason for wanting this phone is the pixels camera and the cheap price tag which i don't think the mi6 will beat. but I would also like to have a device that I could develop on, putting new roms and whatnot. SOOoooo what do you guys suggest? Thanks in advance
Dont buy it! Dont buy it! Dont buy it!
Ok. I'm joking, but its hopeless to wait for Mi 5s to support band 20, but the rest might already work.
I'm also waiting for pixel camera, currently. Don't expect too much, I never knew I can only have lowest iso at 100! Google pixel definitely can have 50 I think. I was naive and thought everything would be solved by software updating, but currently no 3rd party app can make iso lower than 50. Since it's not open sourced yet, I doubt CM or AOSP would have iso 50, even they have, I'm concerned that they won't have as good quality. The preview of Mi 5s in manual mode never changes while changing exposing time (shutter speed). This never happened in my previous phones, and I was wondering why there was only one guy mentioned this (and whenever I brought this up, nobody replied)
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Dont buy it! Dont buy it! Dont buy it!
Ok. I'm joking, but its hopeless to wait for Mi 5s to support band 20, but the rest might already work.
I'm also waiting for pixel camera, currently. Don't expect too much, I never knew I can only have lowest iso at 100! Google pixel definitely can have 50 I think. I was naive and thought everything would be solved by software updating, but currently no 3rd party app can make iso lower than 50. Since it's not open sourced yet, I doubt CM or AOSP would have iso 50, even they have, I'm concerned that they won't have as good quality. The preview of Mi 5s in manual mode never changes while changing exposing time (shutter speed). This never happened in my previous phones, and I was wondering why there was only one guy mentioned this (and whenever I brought this up, nobody replied)
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So the camera can't be fully ported? İt's got the exact same hardware though so I see no reason for it not to be fully ported. Can someone else shed some light on this?
Only in Cam2 API can you see a live preview, you can use snap cam or FreeDcam for that. Also using manual cam 1 api on FreeDcam you can achieve 0 ISO, using long exposure. It would be nice to have HDR+ but what we got is just as good when you become used to using it.
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So the camera can't be fully ported? İt's got the exact same hardware though so I see no reason for it not to be fully ported. Can someone else shed some light on this?
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I had the same idea when I got this phone, but nothing magic happened. Maybe in the future. There are two strange things, firstly Google camera hdr+ hasn't been port to any non Nexus device, by the way MI5s simply fc on 3.x versions,and the working version only has basic functions. Secondly, no camera can lower iso to below 100, so there's definitely difference between pixel and mi 5s I don't know if this can be fixed by replacing libs. The eis should also be different, at least you need system driver and service to use gryo during taking photos
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Heya guys, I was wondering when the pixel camera will be ported to the mi5s? Can someone tell me what we will need first and the likelihood of it happening out of 10? also what is the chance of unlocking the mi5s's bands if/when the mi5's bands are unlocked out of 10? I'm still wondering if I should purchase this phone or wait for the mi6. The main reason for wanting this phone is the pixels camera and the cheap price tag which i don't think the mi6 will beat. but I would also like to have a device that I could develop on, putting new roms and whatnot. SOOoooo what do you guys suggest? Thanks in advance
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Regarding the pixel camera on Mi5S . This is just wishful thinking, it will never happen.
That's a real bummer, I guess I won't buy it :/ I appreciate your comments so thanks
Hi Guys,
I've gotten a PD now which replaced my S7, apart from the battery, bigger screen and 256GB storage there is not a lot better.
1. I'd at least like to have root - I've now only found one thread where someone nearly bricked his device.
But this thread is far more than 1y old - are there any news for root?
2. Camera: While I had the S7 before - I think the double camera here does not perform any better. From what I've seen this might be also related to compression.
While the Huawei camera-app does not support to change the compression ratio / quality, is there any know camera app which utilizes the double-sensor and does perform better than the Huawei app?
Thanks and regards,
Maeffjus
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Hi Guys,
I've gotten a PD now which replaced my S7, apart from the battery, bigger screen and 256GB storage there is not a lot better.
1. I'd at least like to have root - I've now only found one thread where someone nearly bricked his device.
But this thread is far more than 1y old - are there any news for root?
2. Camera: While I had the S7 before - I think the double camera here does not perform any better. From what I've seen this might be also related to compression.
While the Huawei camera-app does not support to change the compression ratio / quality, is there any know camera app which utilizes the double-sensor and does perform better than the Huawei app?
Thanks and regards,
Maeffjus
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Hi,
Congratulations on picking up the PD!
I own this and the note 8 and I can honestly say the camera on the PD outperforms the note camera by miles. Active shots, where either the camera or the subject are moving come out crisp.
The only reason I bought the note was because my banking apps kept saying the Huawei is using rooted firmware when it wasn't.
Performance is much smoother than the note and just all around the phone is better. I hope you find this as well, but as you use it more, I'm sure you will agree
Hi Charm,
Normally I had not abandoned the S7, but our GM came up one day with the brand new PD and said that this phone is for for me.
(in general: I'm using a company contract that I'm allowed to use it for all private things - so this is my only phone).
As per my opinion especially in low-light the P9Pro is a lot worse.
However, I'd like to know if there is an 3rd-party cam-app that can handle the two sensors.
And while you said that due to the root your software is complaining - do you have the PD or the "normal" one? And if it is the PD, how did you root it?
Regards,
Matthias
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Hi Charm,
Normally I had not abandoned the S7, but our GM came up one day with the brand new PD and said that this phone is for for me.
(in general: I'm using a company contract that I'm allowed to use it for all private things - so this is my only phone).
As per my opinion especially in low-light the P9Pro is a lot worse.
However, I'd like to know if there is an 3rd-party cam-app that can handle the two sensors.
And while you said that due to the root your software is complaining - do you have the PD or the "normal" one? And if it is the PD, how did you root it?
Regards,
Matthias
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Well consider yourself lucky to be given such a nice phone for free haha!
I use full stock and even the phone is full stock. I have not rooted it, but the banking apps were saying it was rooted which is why I had to abandon it. So I have no idea how to root, but to be honest, I wouldn't root such an expensive phone.
charmz2k2 said:
Well consider yourself lucky to be given such a nice phone for free haha!
I use full stock and even the phone is full stock. I have not rooted it, but the banking apps were saying it was rooted which is why I had to abandon it. So I have no idea how to root, but to be honest, I wouldn't root such an expensive phone.
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I'd like to root it because I then can use a NFC emulator and combine my companies key for the door and the fob used for "arrival" and "leave" in our time-tracking system from my phone.
What I have found out and what is annoying AF: My bluetooth turns of from time to time by itself. This is especially no fun since I drive in my car with handsfree at lest twice a day plus got a BT connected smartwatch. Any idea how to solve this?
Is there anyway to swap a z2 plays rear camera for the z2 force's rear dual camera? Would it work and if not why not. Thanks
Imagine this: have you ever tried putting a 9v battery in an AAA slot? It's physically impossible unless you modify the structure of whatever device is using them. And if you somehow manage to fit it, the device isn't guaranteed to work with it, and it can even stop working.
Same situation here, if you somehow manage to change the lens, there won't be space to fit them (z2 play is 0.1 mm thinner than the z2 force). If you surpassed all those steps, good luck trying to connect into the motherboard both cameras. If you are a ****ing hardware genius and somehow you managed to fit the connectors into the z2 play's motherboard, then good luck developing drivers for those lenses to work in the SoC of the z2 play (and I don't think the ISP supports two lenses at all).
I don't know what happened through your mind to even think that... That's a pretty dumb question.
Well thanks for the reply and never even thought about the other cam having a different connector not even sure if it does but I suppose it could. I personally don't think it is a stupid question, both phones are Moto's and the same series z2, I do understand they have different motherboards and processors, not so fluent on android but since people on here use custom ROMs thought I'd ask. Guess I should have thought about the drivers issue though. Anyways thanks for your response. I suppose I was hopeful for the play 2 to have a better and dual camera. I use it has my primary, because I can Bluetooth tether without turning off Wi-Fi which I can't do with the z2 force Verizon model, this also worked for me on the e4plus but not on z play Verizon model, I really don't understand why some models work for this and some don't, doesn't make sense to me.