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[Q] [Q/DISCUSSION] Camera Slo-Mo 240FPS

I got really exited about the new OP Three, there are just a few aspects I don't like, one of them being 120fps filming instead of 240fps. I'm a complete noob, but I'm trying to inderstand why it can't record 240fps videos. As far as I know, our processor (SD820) can manage 240fps (see S7/G5), and I guess our camera sensor can too (IMX298), but I couldn't find that information.
Anyway, previously I was interested in getting slow motion on a DSLR camera (Canon EOS 700D), but I found some reasons why it would't be possible: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/in...r0ic25ieqeee0&topic=11570.msg113776#msg113776
I know there are lots of differences between a smartphone and a DSLR camera, but what I found interesting was this:
3. The internal buses that move the raw data from the sensor to the image processors can't handle that much data (1920*1080*14bit*60fps = 1.7 Gigabits per second)
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OP3 can record [email protected] video, which would require 3840×2160×30fps=248832000 bits/s, while HD 240fps video would require 720×1280×240fps=221184000 bits/s (I'm not taking into account color depth since I assume it'd be the same in both cases).
Furthermore, some time ago, when camera2 api was first released, PkmX achieved 120fps and 4K on a nexus 5, which couldn't officially do that and had a far older sensor.
Since OP3 will be really developer-friendly and its sources are already available, do you think it'll be possible for developers to get 240fps, even on low res videos? Can you think of anything that could be a limitation?
Anyway, if I buy the phone eventually, I'll learn a bit about development and try to get it.
(Maybe I should mention that I found this digging into the sources, but I don't even know if it's related

iamthex said:
do you think it'll be possible for developers to get 240fps, even on low res videos? Can you think of anything that could be a limitation?
Anyway, if I buy the phone eventually, I'll learn a bit about development and try to get it.
(Maybe I should mention that I found this digging into the sources, but I don't even know if it's related
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you know the nexus 5x initially just had 120 fps and now it has a 240 fps mod, but thats due to the fact that google camera had just restricted it directly inthe apk itself, people just edited the google camera and BANG 240 fps on the nexus 5x.. oneplus3 could be a different story. i really wish it had it though, im like so close to buying this phone ! in the end i might just end up with the nexus 6p due to this feature

shriom_manerker said:
you know the nexus 5x initially just had 120 fps and now it has a 240 fps mod, but thats due to the fact that google camera had just restricted it directly inthe apk itself, people just edited the google camera and BANG 240 fps on the nexus 5x.. oneplus3 could be a different story. i really wish it had it though, im like so close to buying this phone ! in the end i might just end up with the nexus 6p due to this feature
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I bought the 3. So far it's not looking good. It looks like the camera2 API implementation is broken for photos and who knows what for video.
They released some source and made a big show about it, but there is still proprietary code they haven't released and may never--they never did with the One which still has no camera2.
Might want to hold out on the 3 for things to settle and by that time the new Sony should be out with a much better sensor.

Scrawson said:
I bought the 3. So far it's not looking good. It looks like the camera2 API implementation is broken for photos and who knows what for video.
They released some source and made a big show about it, but there is still proprietary code they haven't released and may never--they never did with the One which still has no camera2.
Might want to hold out on the 3 for things to settle and by that time the new Sony should be out with a much better sensor.
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i already placed my order :\ , i read somewhere that the external apps are working with camera2 api ! i dont remember which thread in xda but its there , one person was not working, others confirmed working

Upgrade oneplus 3 camera to IMX316

I would like to buy a oneplus 3, however the camera is concerning me
According to sample photos, the camera doesn't perform as well as hoped for.
Is it possible to change the module by the latest sony IMX316 for example? It would give a great addition to the already amazing phone

c4d3r said:
I would like to buy a oneplus 3, however the camera is concerning me
According to sample photos, the camera doesn't perform as well as hoped for.
Is it possible to change the module by the latest sony IMX316 for example? It would give a great addition to the already amazing phone
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lol of course no. it's not a modular phone. And the camera sensor (sony imx298 ) in my opinion is actually really good. Might not be as good as the s7 one but it's very close to that. Also the developers i suppose will be able to improve the algorithm to make it even better.

Camera isnt best.. But it's good..

Well, i was just wondering if it can be upgraded in the future by changing the camera sensor module (screwing phone open, clipping new one). Perhaps by changing drivers

The best you could hope for would be software updates that might help the camera processing. You'll never be able to switch the sensor module. If you don't like the camera and that's a deal breaker then don't get this phone. Personally I think the camera samples are pretty good. If I need something more then I'll pull out the A6300 and use it instead.

HatRiGt said:
Camera isnt best.. But it's good..
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how about it camera ? better or worse than nexus 6p? sold my 6p and ordered OP3 last day, i will get my device next Thursday
just wonder, since 6P camera is good

c4d3r said:
I would like to buy a oneplus 3, however the camera is concerning me
According to sample photos, the camera doesn't perform as well as hoped for.
Is it possible to change the module by the latest sony IMX316 for example? It would give a great addition to the already amazing phone
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Err, how many phones are modable in such a manner? Might as well as if you can use it to floss your teeth.

[Q] Regarding VoLTE

Hey guys,
Having been here for sometime, I find development of our device is very slow. But there is progress. I mean the fingerprint was resolved, root was resolved. Almost all critical requirements are stable or near to stable.
Keeping that aside, may I ask why VoLTE is not available in any custom ROM? While it works perfectly with stock considering the fact that stock is actually near to stock Android.
With my previous device(Redmi note 3), a wonderful device, VoLTE bug was solved by restoring the correct Radio, Firmware and the EFS partition (mentioning so that it might become useful).
Will that method​ work for our device? I mean has anyone tried that? Or should we wait for official source release from Lenovo or is it that we've live without VoLTE ?
Sorry for the long post, Thanks for your patience.

Hi, we have Volte code in Lineage 14.1 intial builds.. but later its Gone..!
dont know why.. hope someone answers your question.. !

Not sure if developers are aware of it since majority won't use VoLTE. In the case of Redmi note 3, it's popularity in the Indian market (demanding Reliance Jio) forced devs to find a fix.
Well clearly that's not the case for P2. As we lack popularity and most ROMs are ported rather than built from scratch (I assume. pl correct me if I'm wrong). As a result no one has actually gone into it. If Lenovo has not released the source code then restoring some partition related the radio bands from stock ROM should solve the issue right? Atleast that was the case in RN3.

Siva Mk said:
Not sure if developers are aware of it since majority won't use VoLTE. In the case of Redmi note 3, it's popularity in the Indian market (demanding Reliance Jio) forced devs to find a fix.
Well clearly that's not the case for P2. As we lack popularity and most ROMs are ported rather than built from scratch (I assume. pl correct me if I'm wrong). As a result no one has actually gone into it. If Lenovo has not released the source code then restoring some partition related the radio bands from stock ROM should solve the issue right? Atleast that was the case in RN3.
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I am also skeptical to buy p2.The development is not great while RN3 has the best development I guess.Thats why I am stuck in between rn 4 and p2.

If you're crazy for developing then P2 is not for you. I prefer not to do any mods as of now cuz I'm doing all my experiments on RN3
So I bought this having no plans for development... Root yes... But custom ROMs... Nah... RN3 keeps me busy with that.. having said that, I wouldn't prefer RN4 just for the fact that it has better development. Look for other features too.. like the battery and display for instance... And camera too... Honestly I completely disagree with the fact that many complain the camera sucks... I don't really see a reason why as in its a Sony exmor sensor with an f2.2 aperture. Yes it's an f2.2 aperture so low light will be bad it's obvious. But under normal lighting, or sun it's perfect top notch.
Only feature they missed out was an image stabilizer. They could have added any image stabilization tool but then.. for the price it's pretty much over featured I'd say.
Goodluck

This is actually my first phone in a long time that I have no desire to root.
No bloatware to get rid of and have a nice non-root as blocker.

Siva Mk said:
If you're crazy for developing then P2 is not for you. I prefer not to do any mods as of now cuz I'm doing all my experiments on RN3
So I bought this having no plans for development... Root yes... But custom ROMs... Nah... RN3 keeps me busy with that.. having said that, I wouldn't prefer RN4 just for the fact that it has better development. Look for other features too.. like the battery and display for instance... And camera too... Honestly I completely disagree with the fact that many complain the camera sucks... I don't really see a reason why as in its a Sony exmor sensor with an f2.2 aperture. Yes it's an f2.2 aperture so low light will be bad it's obvious. But under normal lighting, or sun it's perfect top notch.
Only feature they missed out was an image stabilizer. They could have added any image stabilization tool but then.. for the price it's pretty much over featured I'd say.
Goodluck
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*F2.0

reality1234 said:
*F2.0
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Yehp f2.0 my bad... 2.2 is for the front one

Siva Mk said:
Yehp f2.0 my bad... 2.2 is for the front one
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I am actually deciding which to buy.This is for 13k at Flipkart but development is worrying me so I May go for note 4.What do you suggest?

reality1234 said:
I am actually deciding which to buy.This is for 13k at Flipkart but development is worrying me so I May go for note 4.What do you suggest?
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Like I said, I wouldn't normally put features above development, but considering this phone specs features and having used it, I'd definitely suggest P2.
But then there are other factors..
1. Bored to bones with MiUI
2. Redmi feels cheaper and delicate (not sure if I'm alone on this). Holding my RN3 and P2 I could easily pick P2.
3. Camera.. MiUI camera app is ugh.. there's no need for explaining I literally hate it.
4. I'm enjoying P2 without any mods.. not even​root. Clearly not my type.. but i was able to blend in..
That pretty much sums it up. Posts are bit lengthy because I've been through and did a lot of thinking... Hope I was able to help..
Bottom line, you want development go for RN4 else P2 however you can pretty much stay without rooting.
Another option is recommend is the zuk z2

Siva Mk said:
Like I said, I wouldn't normally put features above development, but considering this phone specs features and having used it, I'd definitely suggest P2.
But then there are other factors..
1. Bored to bones with MiUI
2. Redmi feels cheaper and delicate (not sure if I'm alone on this). Holding my RN3 and P2 I could easily pick P2.
3. Camera.. MiUI camera app is ugh.. there's no need for explaining I literally hate it.
4. I'm enjoying P2 without any mods.. not even​root. Clearly not my type.. but i was able to blend in..
That pretty much sums it up. Posts are bit lengthy because I've been through and did a lot of thinking... Hope I was able to help..
Bottom line, you want development go for RN4 else P2 however you can pretty much stay without rooting.
Another option is recommend is the zuk z2
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Thanks
I an getting more battery, amoled display,fast charging with fast charger and almost stock rom.Thats why I am leaning towards p2.AND i personally like p2'a design.Hope development catches up because 2 devs are here doing all the work for this device.I actually kinda feel sad that p2 didn't sell much.Lenovo should have advertised it.RN4 isn't that great in front of this device.And Xiaomi hasn't even released the sources for RN4 still it's so well developed.I really want this device,but I am a guy that flashes roms like every week.Trying out different roms is my passion:silly:.Had it been Moto P2 instead of Lenovo p2,You could have seen a lot more sales

Hello.
I have my P2 for a month, it is the first phone I do not try to root !!
I would like that LENOVO is a true follow-up on this P2. Better than they did to finalize Nougat 7.0.
As said above, if it to a default is the lack of photo stabilizer.
Can I expect a pass on Android 8.0 :fingers-crossed: ... A dream ?

Is there anybody working on "VOLTE Patch" ???

pixel camera in G4?

Im wondering if the camera from the Google Pixel could be installed in the G4. The physical camera, not the software, well the software too.....
I have seen that its possible to instal the kdz for the google camera w AI. I have seen the quality of photos the pixel can make, I have tried (ok Im trying) to install the G4 camera in my G3, but it requires some chassis mods).
I have read all I can about the cameras in the Pixel, and the G4. i think they are both made by sony.
they look the same (comparing pictures of products for sale on ebay)
could one just pop out the stock camera and install the other? Is there some kind of system check that is performed before boot?
why or why not?
cheers
alan

It could work if connection are the same but it's not so easy. Anyway after changing the camera you'll need also a Rom supporting it with correct "Drivers" or you'll have only a bunch of errors XD
Someone reached to do camera swap in really similar phones.

yobooh said:
It could work if connection are the same but it's not so easy. Anyway after changing the camera you'll need also a Rom supporting it with correct "Drivers" or you'll have only a bunch of errors XD
Someone reached to do camera swap in really similar phones.
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I do think the connectors are the same.
I know its a Sony, I have found the API's how do you disassemble them into the individual components?
cheers
Alan

Worth to buy an S9 to use LOS?

Hi all! It's time to change my old Nexus 5 and I'm looking to buy an OP6 or a S9 due to its smaller dimensions.
Thing is I don't like Samsung's personalizations as I heard it slows down very quickly.
Here in Italy I could get an used S9 for 400€. Is it worth to get it with the specific intent of using it only with LineageOS? How does it perform and what am I going to miss from stock android?
Thank you!

Jeeza said:
Hi all! It's time to change my old Nexus 5 and I'm looking to buy an OP6 or a S9 due to its smaller dimensions.
Thing is I don't like Samsung's personalizations as I heard it slows down very quickly.
Here in Italy I could get an used S9 for 400€. Is it worth to get it with the specific intent of using it only with LineageOS? How does it perform and what am I going to miss from stock android?
Thank you!
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Performance wise, S9 performs really well upto this point. I got it since launch and there were only minor drawbacks in the launcher, which were easily removed by installing pixel launcher, and now everything feels smooth. I dont think there is a need for using LOS rom just for speed because you'll lose the great features of samsung.

kyooohei08 said:
Performance wise, S9 performs really well upto this point. I got it since launch and there were only minor drawbacks in the launcher, which were easily removed by installing pixel launcher, and now everything feels smooth. I dont think there is a need for using LOS rom just for speed because you'll lose the great features of samsung.
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Which features you think I would miss the most?

Jeeza said:
Which features you think I would miss the most?
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The features from your camera, I dont think gcam camera is any better than samsung stock. You would also lose any Knox related apps such as secure folder, samsung pass, etc. For me, I dont think there is a need to root now, atleast when it is still receiving software updates .

kyooohei08 said:
The features from your camera, I dont think gcam camera is any better than samsung stock. You would also lose any Knox related apps such as secure folder, samsung pass, etc. For me, I dont think there is a need to root now, atleast when it is still receiving software updates .
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are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about

Simion Catalin said:
are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
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No you don't. Samsung's proprietary image libraries and enhancements are better than any gcam port will achieve.
Not saying gcam is bad but stock is quite a bit better on Samsung Experience compared to gcam.
also to OP: Note you probably won't be able to use the variable apeture OR the iris scanner to unlock your phone. Also as much of a meme as it is VoLTE also isn't supported on LOS.

iiyn said:
No you don't. Samsung's proprietary image libraries and enhancements are better than any gcam port will achieve.
Not saying gcam is bad but stock is quite a bit better on Samsung Experience compared to gcam.
also to OP: Note you probably won't be able to use the variable apeture OR the iris scanner to unlock your phone. Also as much of a meme as it is VoLTE also isn't supported on LOS.
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so..u are saying that my eyes are ****ed up if i see that photos taken with Gcam are better in every way ..and the eyes of many others see the same results...i don`t know man...maybe is something wrong with your eyes....just saying

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so..u are saying that my eyes are ****ed up if i see that photos taken with Gcam are better in every way ..and the eyes of many others see the same results...i don`t know man...maybe is something wrong with your eyes....just saying
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Yeah, pretty much. Even inside the GCam thread for the s9 there are plenty of people saying it's not as good as stock. It's one of the reasons why I haven't jumped ship from Samsung Experience yet.
Also, more vibrant color != better photos. They might LOOK better but what I look for in a smartphone camera is color accuracy. If you like saturated hdr+ overblown shots so be it, to each their own.

When i bought the S8, I was hoping that the dev comunity could after some month port an AOSP rom on it but nothing stable really happend. It's a shame because I always prefered stock roms. Then the s9 came with de Treble project and this was for me the best feature that could ever been done.
You have everything that you could wish :
- Sweet design of the galaxy serie with the infinit display and for me the most beautifull overall body design (without the f*****g notch)
- Very great battery life (it easily last the day without have to charge during the day)
- The best performances, smoothness.
- No bugs at all
I always said that the galaxy series had the most complete phones in the market. But TouchWizz was the point where i always been frustrated about. With LOS, i'm ready to say that the S9 is probably the best phone you can get on the market.
Btw, don't worry about the camera's quality. It's still good even whitout samsung's camera framework.
Peace !

Simion Catalin said:
are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
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The GCam Im talking about is the one from gapps, not the gcam ported from pixel 2 which has HDR+ capability. I agree GCam with hdr+ is superior when it comes to contrast and details, but you dont get it when you are in LOS. That's what Im referring to.