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Hi,
Im thinking of buying this phone, what are the ups/downs ? strengths weaknesses you have encountered.
Do you hate it/love it ? I need to know, i've read too many articles but some seem biased imho.
Thanks alot.
Perhaps not the best phone at everything but the best at its price point at the moment imho.
Depends really what is important to you.
I was trying to decide between this and S7 edge. The latter is a slightly better phone (smaller footprint, better screen and camera, bigger battery, higher cool factor, wireless charging, waterproofness...) and if it was £50 more than Op3 I would have gone for it. But I could not justify the £200 difference and went for the Op3.
And I have no regrets whatsoever. The phone feels a lot more premium that I had expected, it is blazing fast, the batter is also quite good and I have no issues with the screen at all. It is by far the best phone I have ever owned and I generally switch phones every six to eight months so have tried a few.
There is a 15 day money back guarantee so I recommend that you go for it and if you don't like it you can always return it. I suspect that will not be the case though...
st0rm77 said:
Hi,
Im thinking of buying this phone, what are the ups/downs ? strengths weaknesses you have encountered.
Do you hate it/love it ? I need to know, i've read too many articles but some seem biased imho.
Thanks alot.
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Can't speak for anyone else but my favorite things about this phone are:
1) Quick charging. With the Dash charger is very quick, inline with what's advertised. I've charged the phone on a plane using a DC charger and it was fast as well.
2) The finger print reader is super fast.
3) Overall the phone feels fast, much faster than my old Moto X Pure.
Things I don't like:
1) Screen is too dim using adaptive brightness.
2) Sound is weak compared to the Moto X Pure.
the samsung S7/e definitely has better specs, but even if it had a clean stock version of Android (which it definitely does not, TouchWiz sucks), the OP3 is a far more cost effective phone.
A better comparison since now it's almost the same price is the Nexus 6P ($404 on Amazon Prime Day (64GB) for example, and 32GB model has been $380 several times now).
Main differences between these two is:
- QHD vs 1080p (you won't notice unless you do VR)
- OP3 has an alert slider (and disables Automatic DND rules) vs N6P has normal DND mode w/ automatic rules etc
- Camera is better on Nexus 6P (unnoticeable during the day, but during low light photos you can tell)
- Camera App is MUCH faster on OP3 - both at launch and taking photos
- OP3 is smoother/faster & keeps more apps in RAM
- Fingerprint Sensor on front vs on back (both incredibly fast, location is a preference)
- OP3 has optional Capacitive buttons vs N6P has only software buttons
- N6P has Slightly bigger screen (5.7" vs 5.5") and is slightly (20g) heavier - but both are equally thin
- Stock Android M (gets faster updates) vs Oxygen OS (slightly slower updates but has more customization features)
i enjoyed this phone, wanted to keep it, but my 6P takes slightly better pictures. I have kids which i like to photograph whenever i get a chance and it's really important they look best. Its not like the camera is bad or anything, i loved it, in fact. Just think i would stick to my Nexus for now. I also want to try the Axon 7 and need to make the $ back for it lol. However, it was tough to make that decision yesterday
The cons for me;
- no Do not Disturb software. Have to use the slider button. It tends to override 3rd party apps too. May have found one working, but reliability is questionable
- no automated night mode, weak screen dimming software. Again have to use 3rd party, Lux, but having some problem with that app (slows down notification panel)
- I was on a cheap chinese phone last year, but it had a 4000mah battery. Kind of hard to get back to a flimsy 3000mah. Had to install xposed, greenify, Forcedoze, Amplify, trying to boost it to have a decent battery. I couldn't care less about Dash Charge. I charge my phone once a day, and that's while I sleep. I don't carry the Dash charger with me. That is not practical and I hope the people at 1+ and other companies stop ****ing around with the battery size. Device is really light. Really could have used better battery.
- what a poor support. Still couldn't get a refund on the case and tempered glass they had to cancel due to out-of-stock (but still charged me). Ticket is still open going back and forth. Just because of that I will think twice before ordering directly from them.
- I am not a fan of sound coming out from the bottom of the phone. I like ZTE Axon 7 take on stereo sound.
pros
- dev friendly, so roms will most likely fix most software issues
- seems pretty solid. No freeze/crash/random reboots so far, and the only slow downs I experienced in the UI are caused by some compatibility issue I have with Lux permanent notification.
- I like that the home button is capacitive. Won't break due to over use (happened on my last phone)
- providing I find a stable and bug-limited rom, best android phone I owned
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the samsung S7/e definitely has better specs, but even if it had a clean stock version of Android (which it definitely does not, TouchWiz sucks), the OP3 is a far more cost effective phone.
A better comparison since now it's almost the same price is the Nexus 6P ($404 on Amazon Prime Day (64GB) for example, and 32GB model has been $380 several times now).
Main differences between these two is:
- QHD vs 1080p (you won't notice unless you do VR)
- OP3 has an alert slider (and disables Automatic DND rules) vs N6P has normal DND mode w/ automatic rules etc
- Camera is better on Nexus 6P (unnoticeable during the day, but during low light photos you can tell)
- Camera App is MUCH faster on OP3 - both at launch and taking photos
- OP3 is smoother/faster & keeps more apps in RAM
- Fingerprint Sensor on front vs on back (both incredibly fast, location is a preference)
- OP3 has optional Capacitive buttons vs N6P has only software buttons
- N6P has Slightly bigger screen (5.7" vs 5.5") and is slightly (20g) heavier - but both are equally thin
- Stock Android M (gets faster updates) vs Oxygen OS (slightly slower updates but has more customization features)
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You certainly will notice the difference of the Op3's Pen Tile 1080p Amoled display compared with a QuadHD Amoled, even in normal use. That's in direct comparison. Use the Op3 for a while and you likely forget.
As to value, the OP3 is clearly better value than £600 flagships but for me, the benefits the S7(E) has are worth the extra. (I cycle a lot and the water resistance is incredibly useful as is the bright screen).
If the above is not too important I'd thoroughly recommend the OnePlus.
(Still, mine is provisionally sold and soon on its way to its new and probably happy owner).
The previous comments all pretty much sum up what I would have to add. Highly recommend the phone...it's worth every penny of the $399 and then some. Very satisfied with my purchase.
I'm going to make one observation about the screen though. 95% of the time, I can't discern a difference between the OP3's 1080p screen and my old Nexus 6 1440p screen. That 5% kicks in when I want to view photos that I've snapped on the phone. Zooming in to those photos creates a considerable loss in detail. This was not the case with my Nexus 6. Zooming into photos retained so much detail and clarity, even though the N6 camera is not as good as the OP3 camera.
My two cents!
Op3 have some flaws,but not everyone experiencing,which are mostly software related which can be fixed with updates ... But it doesn't mean a flawed phone, rather it is best phone on which money can be spent without too much thinking.
By the way every phone whether it cost some penny or our whole arm and leg, has some flaws , that doesn't mean phone is not good.
Therefore you have read several review blog,device specific sections here on xda which will help you to know what are most common problems with particular phone.If these problems are to severe that software update or dev community can't fix then you have to make careful decision before purchase.
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About One plus 3 - It is very strong device,its perfomance is strong in every department,and is above the money you pay .
and that Dash Charge its awesome, ridiculously fast ,70 minutes and is goes from zero to hero
For me it's all about development. This device is more stable, faster and nicer than my previous g3. S7 is fine phone and even tw improve a lot, but on open phone, there are unlimited possibilities, on s7 you have just one.
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You certainly will notice the difference of the Op3's Pen Tile 1080p Amoled display compared with a QuadHD Amoled, even in normal use. That's in direct comparison. Use the Op3 for a while and you likely forget.
As to value, the OP3 is clearly better value than £600 flagships but for me, the benefits the S7(E) has are worth the extra. (I cycle a lot and the water resistance is incredibly useful as is the bright screen).
If the above is not too important I'd thoroughly recommend the OnePlus.
(Still, mine is provisionally sold and soon on its way to its new and probably happy owner).
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I would agree that side-by-side you can tell a difference, but it's irrelevant for day to day use.
Also, far more noticeable is the difference in both DPI, and in colors (unless you enable sRGB mode on both phones).
No dash charging on custom ROMs sucks, but OP should be releasing source code for this later this month right?
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I can't speak for other countries, I live in The Netherlands for the record.
Now, the big plus for me is the price.
The oneplus 3 only costed me € 399,-
If I were to look for other flagships, I would look at these prices
Galaxy S7 : € 650,- on average
Nexus 6P : € 530,- on average
LG G5 : € 550,- on average
Now my last phone was a 2013 Nexus 5 and honestly I didn't feel that upgrading to a 5X was worth it.
But then if i look at other flagships, prices around here seem to rise exponentially.
Yes, ofc I think that an S7 is a great phone, but € 250,- better on average? (Considering all the bloatware you get with it, Its really not worth that much more. Also no support for development really with locked bootloaders.)
Pro's
- Clean version of android with more features
- No bloatware
- 6GB of RAM (For people who say RAM doesn't matter, try using a Nexus 9 Tablet with its 2GB of memory with a 64-bit OS. You will want to throw the thing out of your window before the end of the day.)
- price to value
- great fingerprint scanner
Cons
- only 1 place where you can buy it (online)
- doesn't have all the features like an S7 has (water resistant etc. )
- Slower updates compared to a Nexus device
- No option to use a schedule for "Do Not Disturb", instead you have a slider. (I like the slider but why the **** did they take out the damn scheduler. I like my downtime every night from 23:00 till around 07:00, Now I have to do it manually.)
Let me just add bad camera quality on custom ROMs.
Hopefully Oneplus will release the camera apk
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I know there is a thread on the V30 forums that are more biased towards the V30, I am curious to see what the Pixel guys have to say. I am torn between the two right now. I'm on Verizon so I got the unlocked Pixel XL 2 Unlocked on preorder but the V30 is the Verizon version which is locked. I dont know if i plan on ever putting custom roms on it but i like the option to if I want to.
As awesome as the v30 looks and on paper, I cannot live with lgs skin, it's hideous ?
To me it depends on how important an up to date pure Android experience is to you. The v20, for example, is still running 7.0, so the LG updates are a bit slow. I prefer the quad dac and headphone jack on the v30, but the software ranks higher on my wish list.
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To me it depends on how important an to date pure Android experience is to you. The v20, for example, is still running 7.0, so the LG updates are a bit slow. I prefer the quad dac and headphone jack on the v30, but the software ranks higher on my wish list.
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Yeah, I've never owned a LG phone until I picked up the V30 last week to try it out. Loving the feel and experience with it so far. Never have I gotten this good of battery life on a phone either. 4 hours of SOT and still at 35%. I use Messenger/FB/Snapchat which are all hogs and this thing is handling it no problem. I have to go into a verizon store and see what the pixel feels like in hand. I love the idea of stock android with updates when they come out because I know I wont ever be able to root and toss on roms on my V30 cause its Verizon.
I posted in the V30 vs Pixel 2XL thread over on the V30 forum. But since I'm typically one to sway towards Nexus/Pixel devices, I'll give my opinion here.
As you can see from my signature, it's not like me to venture away from the pure Android experience. And I was very excited to see what the 2nd generation of Pixel phones had to offer. However, I must admit that I am disappointed with what Google put out this year. I've decided to go with the V30 and it arrives Monday.
To start, my recent test switch from the Pixel XL to the Galaxy S8 (about 4 months ago now) has been surprisingly great. Sure, TouchWiz is no "Pure Android", but I've found the S8 to be extremely fast and hasn't missed a beat for me. So I've learned first hand that you can still have excellent performance on a non-Pixel/Nexus phone.
I've also gotten hooked on wireless charging. I have a Qi wireless charger on my night stand and one in my office. My relatives have all seemingly adopted the most current Samsung and LG phones and all have multiple QI chargers in their homes, as well. So I've been able to fully adopt wireless charging in my daily life. In fact, my OEM USB C charger is still sitting in the original packaging, unused.
Now that I've experienced how convenient wireless charging is, I honestly could not imagine going back. So the lack of wireless charging in the Pixel 2 XL was a serious Downer for me.
This week I was able to compare the V30 and 2 XL side by side in my local Verizon store. This really helped solidify the V30 for me. Side by side the 2 XL's top, bottom and side bezels look enormous compared to the V30 (and the S8 for that matter). The 2 XL's bezels make the screen appear smaller than it does on the V30 while also making the phone feel notably larger in the hand than the V30. Which is annoying because the V30 is already a relatively large phone.
In addition, the user interface on the V30 is very fluid and smooth. Easily as fast as the 2XL, from my quick 5 minute comparison. I actually like LGs take on Android with their latest skin. And if I get sick of it, I can quickly install a Pixel theme with Nova and mirror the Pixel user interface exactly.
In fact, after using pure Android phones for so long, I'd even go as far as to say that the user interface on the 2 XL is boring. Oreo feels the same as Nougat, which feels the same as Marshmallow. Sure it's fast but it's almost too simple and feels the same as it has the past 2+ years.
I know many will disagree but at this point I feel that the pure Android experience has grown tired, stale and featureless. The little tweaks and features that LG and Samsung have added with they're skins are actually quite great and have progressed Android much further than stock Android has over the past couple of years.
However, with all that said, both are great phones and I don't think you can truly go wrong either way. It just depends on what you are looking for. If you are one to root and flash kernels/ROMs, the decision for you is easy. But for me, my days of rooting are behind me and the 2 XL is slightly too large and is missing a few too many little features to justify the price point over the V30.
Yeah, I had my sights on the V30, still do, to be honest. However, at the end of the day, quick updates from Google is where it's at and the P2 phones are getting three years of them (although I am honestly likely to upgrade in a year or two).
Having said that, when the V30 drops in price, I will definitely consider picking one up as a backup. I love the idea of a HiFi DAC and the second wide angle camera. I just can't stay away from pure Android for my main driver.
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I guess the V30 is like a Pixel 2xl with LG skin, Bloat, Expandable Memory, Ear Bud Jack, 2 year warranty promo, slippery back, ( I handled on @att) different audio and camera hardware.
georgiapi said:
I guess the V30 is like a Pixel 2xl with LG skin, Bloat, Expandable Memory, Ear Bud Jack, 2 year warranty promo, slippery back, ( I handled on @att) different audio and camera hardware.
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Yea, they aren't that much alike from what I see. Similar maybe, but that's about it. Pretty much a coincidence that the P2 XL and V30 were released at the same time. That's not a bad thing and nothing implied about either. Both awesome phones. I can't give up that update on the 1st Monday of the month.
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To start, my recent test switch from the Pixel XL to the Galaxy S8 (about 4 months ago now) has been surprisingly great. Sure, TouchWiz is no "Pure Android", but I've found the S8 to be extremely fast and hasn't missed a beat for me. So I've learned first hand that you can still have excellent performance on a non-Pixel/Nexus phone.
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Yea I had the Pixel XL, sold it and went back to an iPhone just for battery life because my Pixel XL wasnt getting more than 3 hours of SOT, and then traded the iPhone for an s8 + $200 on Craigslist. So i've been rocking the s8 for a couple months now and I can agree that its gotten a lot better than it use to be. Its my first Samsung that i've actually given a try since my Note 4 that I had and hated. Needless to say I hate that they dont get the updates but as you have said in your post, is the updates worth the look/features of another phone right now. I watch quite a bit of content on my phone without headphones so the stereo speakers would be nice but after having the s8 and no bezels (I know its not a huge thing but I like a sexy looking phone) it will be hard to go back to ones with a lot of bezel. The V30 is just perfect, I'm not a fan of the s8 curved edges as sometimes you wanna touch something along the edge and just cant get it. Only gripe on the v30 has been the camera which Verizon is sending me out another unit because they think its faulty. Last night I had 4 hours of SOT and still 35% left which is the best i've ever had on an Android phone. I use messenger/facebook/snapchat etc so I kill batteries fast and this thing just handles it like its nothing. I've never owned an LG phone but this thing might have sealed the deal for me. I still have my 2XL on order and when I receive my replacement V30 I should receive the 2XL before my 14 day return period is up so I can use both side by side not in a store having someone breath down my back for a sale.
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As awesome as the v30 looks and on paper, I cannot live with lgs skin, it's hideous
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You can just put another skin on top. Afaik the hardware is nearly the same on both phones (except camera) so maybe there will be also a smooth bugfree aosp rom for the v30 too.
Tbh I also looking forward to the Mate 10 presentation tomorrow, because Huawei is making the best UI from all skin androids regarding performance.
So maybe I just get a Mate10 and put pixel / nova launcher on it, instead going with the pixel 2 xl.
I preordered Pixel 2 xl (release in germany in 15.11.17) but if the mate 10 has more advantages i would go with huawei this year.
Is the LGV30 rootable? The latest update thing from pixel phones can be solved if the phone is rootable...
After leaving the gym this morning, I decided to poke my head back into the Verizon store next door to spend some more time doing a hands on side-by-side comparison.
In playing with both phones, I started taking some observations made by others into account, as well. One thing that I must admit is very cool, is the ability to squeeze the 2 XL to open Google Assistant. One of my concerns with this was whether squeezing the phone would lift a full coverage tempered glass screen protector. I am concerned that the addition of a TPU case, paired with a full coverage screen protector, would be an issue with this because the front edges of the TPU case would likely push into the screen protector whenever you activated the assistant. This could potentially lift the screen protector around the edges, which would get annoying. But the reality of this concern is yet to be seen.
The other thing others mentioned was just how ugly the built in LG dialer and messages apps are. I spent time trying to make a call in the LG dialer and the built in messages and have to agree that both those apps provide a very ugly experience. And since LG/Samsun make it next to impossible to fully replace the dialer/messages apps, it's something you'd have to live with in one way or another. Going back to the built in dialer and messages apps on the 2 XL were a breath of fresh air.
In addition, this time around I decided to test the speakers on each phone. I've gotta say, the front facing stereo speakers on the 2 XL are pretty spectacular. Especially when directly compared to the V30 and my S8. The bottom speaker on the V30 and S8 sound very "raspy" and hollow, in comparison. Plus, those bottom facing speakers don't get nearly as loud and are easy to accidentally cover with your finger. For my testing I used the Youtube app to test Marquees Brownlee's Pixel 2 XL YouTube review video and then the "Imagine Dragons - Believer" video, to give me an idea of how music and normal web content would sound. The front facing speakers on the 2 XL truly put the S8 and V30 to shame. At just 50% volume the 2 XL speakers were as loud as the V30 and S8 speakers were at full volume. And the overall sound from the 2 XL was much more "full". I suppose that's to be expected but I was surprised by just how big the difference is.
Admittedly, the front facing speakers truly have me back to considering the 2 XL, since I do spend a good amount of time consuming video/audio content on my phone, through the built-in speaker(s). However, I hate that I'd have to give up wireless charging and I still think the bezels on the 2 XL are ugly compared to the V30. Plus, in trying to picture 3 months down the road, when the initial "new toy" excitement wears off, I'm now considering whether or not I'd prefer to have the 2 XL's inevitably great dev community to fall back on to mess around with. Needless to say, the decision has grown more difficult for me....
DAmn this is why I posted a thread on this. I didn’t see this one. The screen and overall feel of the V30 plus the dual camera makes me want the V30. The updates and speakers plus google goodies makes me want the pixel. I want a really beautiful screen and don’t want so feel like I have a tiny screen because of the pixel speakers. Man this is harder than I thought
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DAmn this is why I posted a thread on this. I didn’t see this one. The screen and overall feel of the V30 plus the dual camera makes me want the V30. The updates and speakers plus google goodies makes me want the pixel. I want a really beautiful screen and don’t want so feel like I have a tiny screen because of the pixel speakers. Man this is harder than I thought
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I've made an interesting decision, for now. I went ahead and pre-ordered the 2 XL. In addition, I have JUMP! On-Demand with T-Mobile. I'm going to use that to trade my S8 in for the V30 when the local store near me gets their V30 stock this week (hopefully tomorrow). So I'll get up to 14 days to play with the V30 as a daily driver. This will either lead me to canceling my 2 XL order before it ships or turning the V30 in for one of their super cheap phones to have as a backup to the 2 XL.
....or maybe I'll just keep both and let this indecision linger for months to come. :laugh:
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I've made an interesting decision, for now. I went ahead and pre-ordered the 2 XL. In addition, I have JUMP! On-Demand with T-Mobile. I'm going to use that to trade my S8 in for the V30 when the local store near me gets their V30 stock this week (hopefully tomorrow). So I'll get a couple of weeks to play with the V30 as a daily driver. This will either lead me to canceling my 2 XL order before it ships or turning he V30 in for one of their super cheap phones to have as a backup to the 2 XL.
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Awesome let us know! My pixel 2XL is due here between the 27-31st now if it ships earlier that’s different. I do know I have a return policy with Google I can’t recall if it’s the carrier 15 day remorse or he 30 day ?!
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Oh and another plus for the V30 it’s 600mhrz compatible
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I've made an interesting decision, for now. I went ahead and pre-ordered the 2 XL. In addition, I have JUMP! On-Demand with T-Mobile. I'm going to use that to trade my S8 in for the V30 when the local store near me gets their V30 stock this week (hopefully tomorrow). So I'll get up to 14 days to play with the V30 as a daily driver. This will either lead me to canceling my 2 XL order before it ships or turning the V30 in for one of their super cheap phones to have as a backup to the 2 XL.
....or maybe I'll just keep both and let this indecision linger for months to come. :laugh:
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Yeah thats what I'm doing right now, got the v30 and love it besides the camera like i said, somethings wrong with it. Sending me a replacement and i get the new 15 days added on so it'll line me up to give them both a try for like 3-4 days together until the v30 would need to go back. The 27th cant come fast enough. Gonna go to the other 2 verizon stores in town tomorrow and see if I can get to play around with them since the one i went to today was "broke"
I made a list of advantages of both phones over on the V30 forum, which has been updated an added to, since . Here goes:
Pro V30
Headphone jack and DAC (not sure I'll be able to appreciate the latter with $100-headphones and spotify, though)
Sleeker design (but it'll live in a case anyways)
Smaller bezels
Smaller and lighter
Probably a tad cheaper
AOD seems to be more useful, incl. controls
Qi wireless charging
Higher IP 68 rating (even WITH 3.5mm headphone jack)
dual cameras -- one with f/1.6 and one with a wide angle lens
Pro P2XL
Better overall camera (esp. if you don't use manual mode)
Better low light/high dynamic range pics
Pure Android, no bloatware
Faster updates, esp. monthly security updates
Purportedly better support than LG
No breakable, smudgy glass back
RGB led
front-facing stereo speakers (the one thing the LG V30 doesn't have)
I am leaning towards the P2XL. One reason is that I’m not a big content creator (definitely not going to dive into manual photo/video modes), the other is that while the V30 may be the overall better package today, the P2XL will get better for a long time, especially once Android P drops, which will probably take LG at least six months to implement.
saxelfur said:
I made a list of advantages of both phones over on the V30 forum, which has been updated an added to, since . Here goes:
Pro V30
Headphone jack and DAC (not sure I'll be able to appreciate the latter with $100-headphones and spotify, though)
Sleeker design (but it'll live in a case anyways)
Smaller bezels
Smaller and lighter
Probably a tad cheaper
AOD seems to be more useful, incl. controls
Qi wireless charging
Higher IP 68 rating (even WITH 3.5mm headphone jack)
dual cameras -- one with f/1.6 and one with a wide angle lens
Pro P2XL
Better overall camera (esp. if you don't use manual mode)
Better low light/high dynamic range pics
Pure Android, no bloatware
Faster updates, esp. monthly security updates
Purportedly better support than LG
No breakable, smudgy glass back
RGB led
front-facing stereo speakers (the one thing the LG V30 doesn't have)
I am leaning towards the P2XL. One reason is that I’m not a big content creator (definitely not going to dive into manual photo/video modes), the other is that while the V30 may be the overall better package today, the P2XL will get better for a long time, especially once Android P drops, which will probably take LG at least six months to implement.
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I’m in the same boat. I have decided to just wait on my Pixel2XL it’s def the better phone and def better for me
After a full 24 hours with my V30, I've already decided that when my 2 XL arrives, I'll be returning the V30 to T-Mobile.
The main draws for me toward the V30 were wireless charging and the smaller form factor/bezels. In addition, while I understand the headphone jack is becoming an outdated "feature", I do still prefer it for the sole purpose of quickly plugging some headphones in when a client calls me. This happens multiple times each day so I do find it convenient. Powering on and pairing a set of bluetooth headphones would likely lead to me missing calls from clients.
I truly wanted to love this V30, but so far it's been nothing but disappointment.
1) I'm already experiencing notable lag (as others in the V30 forum have pointed out) when opening the app drawer in Nova Launcher and scrolling through various apps like Instagram, Facebook, Chrome and even LG's own LG SmartWorld theme app. I've performed all the steps others recommended to fix it (i.e. enabling GPU rendering, and turning animation scaling to .5x). However, the lag/stuttering remains. Rebooting solves it for a couple of hours but then it comes right back.
2) Wifi connection with the V30 is considerably worse than it was on my Galaxy S8 and my previous Pixel XL. My office is in the very front of the house and the router is near the back of the house. Nonetheless, my S8 and Pixel XL were both able to acquire 3-4 signal bars and get 50mbps+ download speeds in the office. The V30 hovers between 0 and 2 bars and never achieves anything more than 5mbps. It's so bad that I'd be better off not using Wifi with the V30 in the front office.
3) 4G signal strength seems to have similar issues. At my gym my S8 and Pixel XL always had full 4G bars and great download speeds. My V30 hovers around 1-2 bars and Spotify songs are always pausing to buffer. This was never an issue with my previous two phones.
4) I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom facing speaker while watching videos. Admittedly, this was an issue for me with the S8 and original Pixel XL, as well. This has me completely re-thinking those front facing speakers on the 2 XL. When I did my side by side comparison of the 2 XL and V30 in the Verizon store, the front facing speakers on the 2 XL blew me away with their performance, compared to the V30 and S8.
I'll have to live with the larger bezels and lack of wireless charging with the 2 XL. And I'll have to figure out a bluetooth headphone solution while in my office. But my immediate experience with the V30 has been bad enough that it's only made me more excited to get my hands on the 2 XL in the next couple of weeks.
EDIT: Add Feedly to the list of apps with obnoxious stuttering issues. Oh and the Google keyboard K
started randomly failing to recognize finger swipe gestures, forcing me to resort to tap-to-type.
There is something seriously wrong with this LG software. It's making me miss my S8, at this point. ?
sn0warmy said:
After a full 24 hours with my V30, I've already decided that when my 2 XL arrives, I'll be returning the V30 to T-Mobile.
The main draws for me toward the V30 were wireless charging and the smaller form factor/bezels. In addition, while I understand the headphone jack is becoming an outdated "feature", I do still prefer it for the sole purpose of quickly plugging some headphones in when a client calls me. This happens multiple times each day so I do find it convenient. Powering on and pairing a set of bluetooth headphones would likely lead to me missing calls from clients.
I truly wanted to love this V30, but so far it's been nothing but disappointment.
1) I'm already experiencing notable lag (as others in the V30 forum have pointed out) when opening the app drawer in Nova Launcher and scrolling through various apps like Instagram, Facebook, Chrome and even LG's own LG SmartWorld theme app. I've performed all the steps others recommended to fix it (i.e. enabling GPU rendering, and turning animation scaling to .5x). However, the lag/stuttering remains. Rebooting solves it for a couple of hours but then it comes right back.
2) Wifi connection with the V30 is considerably worse than it was on my Galaxy S8 and my previous Pixel XL. My office is in the very front of the house and the router is near the back of the house. Nonetheless, my S8 and Pixel XL were both able to acquire 3-4 signal bars and get 50mbps+ download speeds in the office. The V30 hovers between 0 and 2 bars and never achieves anything more than 5mbps. It's so bad that I'd be better off not using Wifi with the V30 in the front office.
3) 4G signal strength seems to have similar issues. At my gym my S8 and Pixel XL always had full 4G bars and great download speeds. My V30 hovers around 1-2 bars and Spotify songs are always pausing to buffer. This was never an issue with my previous two phones.
4) I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom facing speaker while watching videos. Admittedly, this was an issue for me with the S8 and original Pixel XL, as well. This has me completely re-thinking those front facing speakers on the 2 XL. When I did my side by side comparison of the 2 XL and V30 in the Verizon store, the front facing speakers on the 2 XL blew me away with their performance, compared to the V30 and S8.
I'll have to live with the larger bezels and lack of wireless charging with the 2 XL. And I'll have to figure out a bluetooth headphone solution while in my office. But my immediate experience with the V30 has been bad enough that it's only made me more excited to get my hands on the 2 XL in the next couple of weeks.
EDIT: Add Feedly to the list of apps with obnoxious stuttering issues. Oh and the Google keyboard K
started randomly failing to recognize finger swipe gestures, forcing me to resort to tap-to-type.
There is something seriously wrong with this LG software. It's making me miss my S8, at this point.
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Ouch, sorry you had that bad of an experience with it... Only "downside" i've had with the v30 in the week i've been using it is my wifi disconnects all the time randomly and I have an Orbi Mesh wifi system at home so i'm never more than 15-20 ft from a router/satellite, and the Camera is meh on the backside. Its been buttery smooth for me for the week but I've been in the boat where people say the same thing I am saying and mine lagged like whoa. I am excited for the Pixel 2 XL though, I wish I had patience to hold out for the Panda one but I think i'll just order up a white bottom dbrand skin and toss that on and go reverse
I'm planning to get either one but user reviews of the XL on online retailers are really scaring me. Especially since Google doesn't RMA devices so easily in India(according to the user reviews). I might get a defective unit and be stuck with it. The regular pixel 2 doesn't seem to have any sort of issues with it's screen or speakers. I've read reports of the XL speakers getting distorted, microphone stops working, certain areas of the screen stop responding to touch, etc.
Just wanted to check if you guys have seen such problems and if it is widespread before I make my decision tomorrow.
Had my 2xl Since November. Love it. Slight blue tint when viewed at an angle. I don't even notice it in everyday use. None of the other problems at all. I thought the Pixel 2 was too small for me.
I get about 7hr sot and with same usage my friend gets max 4hr sot on his pixel 2
That's more than anything for me to buy xl lol
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My 2 XL has very slight blue tint (a non-issue for me)
There is also very slight colour temperature changes and it's visible when you're on a white/light background. However, again, it's so slight it's a non-isssue for me
The bottom speaker rattles slightly when at max or near max volume, but tweaking the phone speaker with V4A hes helped with that enough where again, it has become a non-issue
Other than that, I always prefer the bigger version of phones, as it's easier for me to type on and consuming media is also going to be better on a bigger display
Even if I was a small phone guy, the big bezels on the smaller Pixel makes the design look a bit outdated
However, if you're saying it's hard to get an RMA done in India, it's up to you on whether or not you're willing to essentially gamble on a good unit, but I think you'll be fine as long as you're not the type to nitpick!
Well if anything i will advise you to get the pixel XL 2 if you are torn between the two. However new phones are being revealed in a weeks time and will be released in a months time. I'd say wait before you purchase a pixel. New devices will have new soc in it making it faster and mrore efficient. Don't rush my friend unless you clearly want a goolge device
I went ahead and ordered the smaller Pixel 2.
Even in the XDA Indian users thread, people were complaining about the terrible RMA process.
I don't mind the blue tint, but the distorted speaker problem will be too awful. I don't want to use V4A. And its way more expensive to take such a gamble.
I definitely want a Google phone. I miss my nexuses and their quick updates. If I wait for the S9, it would probably get updates upto P and Q, but the Pixel 2 should reach R! Samsungs are not smooth. I used an S8 plus for a while and there was noticeable delay compared to a One Plus 5.
Got a couple of discounts on the Pixel 2, and I bought it
Currently having a Pixel 4 XL as a loaner. I can barely get through the day before I need to recharge the battery. But I do love the Android 10 software on this phone as well as the no compromise camera.
So how's battery on the 7T (with latest sw update) compared to the Pixel 4 XL?
On the Pixel 4 XL I sometimes have problems with the Bluetooth and my ear phones (Bose 700 ANC and Airpods Pro), anyone in here using either of them with the 7T?
How's the camera on the 7T compared with the 4 XL?
Usually get 5-6 hours sot and the camera is decent. Not up to pixel quality but trades punches with Samsung regarding camera. Overall a fantastic device.
I'm using mine with Sony XM3 with no issues over bluetooth. Considering there's no 3.5mm jack it's not like there's any other choice.
I Carnt speak for the OnePlus 7t as I have the 7t Pro McLaren edition but a friend of mine has a 7t and I have had a pixel 4xl and it is a better buy than the pixel 4xl, depending on each individual's use you should see 5-6+ out of it where a any pixel 4xl I was lucky to scrape 5.
7t Pro on the other hand I'm getting around 7-8.
As for the cameras I think it's swings and roundabouts as 7t has features the pixel don't and then the pixel can do better in certain areas..
I believe the 7t is a all-round device it has decent battery, great screen, snappy top performance, versatile camera, audio is decent. Battery is decent,
For me pixel 4 doesn't have a lot going for it especially for its price tag it's well overpriced.
My personal opinion I prefere oxygen os than stock pixel android and I believe many others agree too.
I think the 7t it's a great choice.
Here's my take coming from a Pixel 2xl-
First off the P 2 xl is a great phone and I was excited with all the hype to get the P 4 xl, but I didn't. After the reviews, I was hoping for 5G. I decided to get the OP 7T. It's less money than the P4xl and, for me, more comfortable to hold than the 2xl. The screen quality on the 7T is sick and faster than the 2 xl. Plus unlike Verizon OP offers a payment plan that is ok and you could get a new phone every year, if you want to. It feels like a quality phone. Lastly, OP sends you a starter case AND a screen protector. Thats's money saved.
Battery usage-
Weekdays- heaviest usage
I take the train (6:15am) for about an hour and I lose about 10% if the train is packed up. In that setting ,the phone tries really hard to get out for a usable signal. It gets so slow that any article I want I email to my self. During the day I'll use it for calls mainly because I'm in front of a computer. We don't have office phones so our cell phone are the source of vocal communication. I'll do some light surfing and texting through the day so when 4:30 comes around I'm at around 55-60%. Both train rides consist of podcast listening and surfing/ texting. By the time I get home I'll be at 45%. I don't plug it in, for the night, until around 11, which puts me at around 33%. So for my style the battery is fine.
Now go figure your phone's daily life and you'll see where the power goes. On weekends I'm not on the train so by the time I go to bed I'm probably at 45-55%
I came from the pixel 4 and was also plagued by bad battery (worse than the 3 honestly)
The 7t is a nice compromise until Google gets their **** together and makes a phone that's actually worth the outrageous price tag.
Ufs 3.0
3300+ mah
Wide angle camera
If the pixel 5 doesn't have this I'll be buying the OnePlus 8t lol
ChongoDroid said:
The 7t is a nice compromise until Google gets their **** together and makes a phone that's actually worth the outrageous price tag.
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I loved my Pixel 2XL but opted for the 7T over the 4XL. The camera on the Pixels is killer, especially considering it's using a 2016 sensor. Google's choices for hardware is a bit of a enigma lately .. the Nexus line used to be a budget friendly near-flagship phone with features designed to move Android forward (e.g. they were ahead of their time). The only reason it didn't sell like hotcakes from the killer price/value is the availability/marketing wasn't strong like other brands - more niche.
They fixed that with the Pixel line but now lag behind in other areas .. the fact their flagship doesn't even win the category they put the most effort in shows they're not really trying .. other manufacturers have moved on to newer sensors to compete (and surpass), yet Google is sticking with software tweaks gen after gen on the same sensor. You do that on budget phones, not flagships. I think Google could probably do killer work software wise using the 48mp (2018) sensor in the 7T with improved optics because of the ability to get more pixel information for their algorithms before downsizing to 12mp.
Their shift to compete against Apple / Samsung on the flagship side has led them to be in a gray area where the value/price is now flipped ... I wouldn't consider them a good value. They don't do enough to compete against the flagships, yet they're commanding flagship pricing (heck, the 4 still has the same camera sensor and RAM as the prior 2 gens). The 'A' variant seems to be the better value from them.
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To answer OP's Q .. in my tests, the OnePlus 7T camera holds up to my Pixel 2XL (I know, not the 4XL). It seems to lack some sharpness and vibrance in the color, but that can be fixed in software if I really need.
For battery life, you can tweak the system if rooted using apps like LSpeed .. I did this on my 2XL and got around 7.5hrs SOT (less after 2 years because if battery aging). Haven't used the 7T enough to know, but I'd assume it'll however around 6-7 with similar tweaks.
The one major downside about the 7T is that there's very little development life compared others.
I just came across a offer on the Pixel 3 and 3 XL 128GB, but I can't decide between the 3 or 3 XL.
How is the screen quality on the 3 compared to XL? Is it brighter, and is it easy to hide the notch on the XL?
Is the battery life noticeably better on the XL?
The XL has a nicer Samsung screen. The 3's screen is an LG.
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I just came across a offer on the Pixel 3 and 3 XL 128GB, but I can't decide between the 3 or 3 XL.
How is the screen quality on the 3 compared to XL? Is it brighter, and is it easy to hide the notch on the XL?
Is the battery life noticeably better on the XL?
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I use the Pixel 3 XL, when I saw the Pixel 3 it looked too small for me, though for some people that can be a good matter. I think both screens are at an equal fighting ground For more context the the larger one uses a Samsung OLED panel, while the smaller one uses and LG OLED panel. The colors appear to maybe pop a little more on smaller one, however the larger one has a more true to life panel. I like the screen screen on my Pixel 3 XL it does look a little warmer than cooler. Hiding the notch is so easy and I think Google did it the best way because the top partially virtual bezel looks equivalent to the bottom. Nearly all apps mostly work with that, very rarely the UI looks weird these days. I get 5 hours screen on time with around 20ish left on a average day. Battery life should improve over time, I must warn you the bloody ide drain is ridiculous and to correct I only found by using scripts.
Thank you for responding. Maybe it's best to buy the XL and just hide the notch.
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Thank you for responding. Maybe it's best to buy the XL and just hide the notch.
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Go for the Xl. Better battery and nicer overall. I think it's also had more development as far as ROMs.
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I must warn you the bloody ide drain is ridiculous and to correct I only found by using scripts.
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Any chance you'd be interested in PMing me those scripts. I'm coming from an LG V20 and it was a pretty mediocre phone but it's idle drain was phenomenal. Lowest I've been able to get my 3XL is 1.7% so far.
I concur on the XL over the regular version. Unless you specifically want a phone that is smaller and like to use it 1 handed then the battery life alone is worth the XL. The screen is better on the XL but it's not night and day difference and is not that noticeable
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Any chance you'd be interested in PMing me those scripts. I'm coming from an LG V20 and it was a pretty mediocre phone but it's idle drain was phenomenal. Lowest I've been able to get my 3XL is 1.7% so far.
I concur on the XL over the regular version. Unless you specifically want a phone that is smaller and like to use it 1 handed then the battery life alone is worth the XL. The screen is better on the XL but it's not night and day difference and is not that noticeable
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Check the forums for Blackened Mod, and to further elaborate I just mean that with these scripts, I drain 2%-3% over night I have not calculated per hour metrics.
Still 3 XL in 2020?
Came across a very good offer for Pixel 3XL and don't know what to do...
I had 2 XL and enjoyed it tremendously. Gave it to my wife, since her Gemini Pro died.
Bought used Note 9, but I couldn't get used to it - somehow....
Why the hell I couldn't synchronise S Notes data, with my computer, why Samsung ditched support for nearby places in dialer, why the hell Galaxy Watch needs so many permissions, why Galaxy watch plugin draining the battery - on Samsung device (!), bad BT range on Note 9, etc...
I ended up with the project to replace all stock apps with Google ones and had double of most of them. I found out that when you integrate most of the Google services, than the battery is not that good anymore. I ended up selling it.
Since I am used to Google services and I use them also on my computer, the Pixel line is the only good choice, I think - but I might be wrong...
I need:
Exceptional Camera, Google Photos backup in original resolution, wide phablet, not so tall, decent speed (I don't play games), good battery (Blackened Mod ???), reasonable amount of storage (128 GB?), front stereo speakers, monthly security updates and: I know that I can expect system updates to Android 11 and 12....
More demanding stuff will be only Office, Acad and that sort of app...
I am not planning to spent 1000 EUR on 4XL, 2XL costed me that much back then....
.... Maybe Oneplus 7T (it has an average camera...don't like it + an issue of not saving videos in appropriate format to use them elsewhere)??
What do you guys think?
Gregzi said:
Still 3 XL in 2020?
Came across a very good offer for Pixel 3XL and don't know what to do...
I had 2 XL and enjoyed it tremendously. Gave it to my wife, since her Gemini Pro died.
Bought used Note 9, but I couldn't get used to it - somehow....
Why the hell I couldn't synchronise S Notes data, with my computer, why Samsung ditched support for nearby places in dialer, why the hell Galaxy Watch needs so many permissions, why Galaxy watch plugin draining the battery - on Samsung device (!), bad BT range on Note 9, etc...
I ended up with the project to replace all stock apps with Google ones and had double of most of them. I found out that when you integrate most of the Google services, than the battery is not that good anymore. I ended up selling it.
Since I am used to Google services and I use them also on my computer, the Pixel line is the only good choice, I think - but I might be wrong...
I need:
Exceptional Camera, Google Photos backup in original resolution, wide phablet, not so tall, decent speed (I don't play games), good battery (Blackened Mod ???), reasonable amount of storage (128 GB?), front stereo speakers, monthly security updates and: I know that I can expect system updates to Android 11 and 12....
More demanding stuff will be only Office, Acad and that sort of app...
I am not planning to spent 1000 EUR on 4XL, 2XL costed me that much back then....
.... Maybe Oneplus 7T (it has an average camera...don't like it + an issue of not saving videos in appropriate format to use them elsewhere)??
What do you guys think?
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The Pixel 3 XL can be defined as fitting those requirements. The screen reminds me of a refined Nexus 6P, more phablet rather than tall. Blackenmod will better the idle time, there are other ways to increase battery like greenify. Original photo quality backups still exists for it and the camera is still exceptional today due to the nature and refined sensor. CAD software and Microsoft Office should run fine, I have used both not too long ago on it. The OnePlus 7T has more ram/storage if you really need it, and the battery is larger. I would say chose one based on what you value more/more updated hardware or a more optimized experience, both devices are great options though I personally would still chose a Pixel.
Go with the XL
Pixel 3 has better in hand feel, built a little sleeker and is a great phone. The battery was the deal-breaker for me. My 3 XL gave me drastically better battery life, so much better that I'm ignoring the hideous notch. They say you get over it but I never really did. I do like the edge to edge display though. The difference in battery makes me strongly recommend the XL.
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I just came across a offer on the Pixel 3 and 3 XL 128GB, but I can't decide between the 3 or 3 XL.
How is the screen quality on the 3 compared to XL? Is it brighter, and is it easy to hide the notch on the XL?
Is the battery life noticeably better on the XL?
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RagedElimanator said:
The Pixel 3 XL can be defined as fitting those requirements. The screen reminds me of a refined Nexus 6P, more phablet rather than tall. Blackenmod will better the idle time, there are other ways to increase battery like greenify. Original photo quality backups still exists for it and the camera is still exceptional today due to the nature and refined sensor. CAD software and Microsoft Office should run fine, I have used both not too long ago on it. The OnePlus 7T has more ram/storage if you really need it, and the battery is larger. I would say chose one based on what you value more/more updated hardware or a more optimized experience, both devices are great options though I personally would still chose a Pixel.
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I was even thinking about the 7 Pro, all sorts of things were crossing my mind...
But after reading This, I think that 3XL will better suit my needs.
Oneplus are great devices but as that guy said: Pixel line has "a little magic" over everything else...
The 3XL is on its way here, managed to get it for less than 400 EUR - open box and tested only....Will see if I made a mistake when it arrives...
RagedElimanator said:
The Pixel 3 XL can be defined as fitting those requirements. The screen reminds me of a refined Nexus 6P, more phablet rather than tall. Blackenmod will better the idle time, there are other ways to increase battery like greenify. Original photo quality backups still exists for it and the camera is still exceptional today due to the nature and refined sensor. CAD software and Microsoft Office should run fine, I have used both not too long ago on it. The OnePlus 7T has more ram/storage if you really need it, and the battery is larger. I would say chose one based on what you value more/more updated hardware or a more optimized experience, both devices are great options though I personally would still chose a Pixel.
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Apparently you missed the exceptional camera part lol
OK I got the 3XL 64GB .for 370 EUR (someone tested it and returned it back to the Shop) practically new, hadn't found a single micro scratch
First impressions vey positive, no issues whatsoever, battery health OK (98%).:good:
I think that his phone is still a good buy in the middle of 2020, especially since it is the last Pixel with unlimited photo storage for original photo resolution until 2022
I am easily getting 6 hours of SOT, AOD included, full stock, unrooted.
Bought used 3XL. Great device for the money that it cost at the moment. Even with a notch
I can get the 64gig version brand new from sprint for $300 plus tax to buy it outright.
I'm sure this would be a huge upgrade from my LG G6,
Is it still worth it for this price??????
I considered the 4xl when it was on sale for 600, but I really like the fingerprint sensor over face unlock