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I know there is a thread on the V30 forums that are more biased towards the V30, I am curious to see what the Pixel guys have to say. I am torn between the two right now. I'm on Verizon so I got the unlocked Pixel XL 2 Unlocked on preorder but the V30 is the Verizon version which is locked. I dont know if i plan on ever putting custom roms on it but i like the option to if I want to.
As awesome as the v30 looks and on paper, I cannot live with lgs skin, it's hideous ?
To me it depends on how important an up to date pure Android experience is to you. The v20, for example, is still running 7.0, so the LG updates are a bit slow. I prefer the quad dac and headphone jack on the v30, but the software ranks higher on my wish list.
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To me it depends on how important an to date pure Android experience is to you. The v20, for example, is still running 7.0, so the LG updates are a bit slow. I prefer the quad dac and headphone jack on the v30, but the software ranks higher on my wish list.
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Yeah, I've never owned a LG phone until I picked up the V30 last week to try it out. Loving the feel and experience with it so far. Never have I gotten this good of battery life on a phone either. 4 hours of SOT and still at 35%. I use Messenger/FB/Snapchat which are all hogs and this thing is handling it no problem. I have to go into a verizon store and see what the pixel feels like in hand. I love the idea of stock android with updates when they come out because I know I wont ever be able to root and toss on roms on my V30 cause its Verizon.
I posted in the V30 vs Pixel 2XL thread over on the V30 forum. But since I'm typically one to sway towards Nexus/Pixel devices, I'll give my opinion here.
As you can see from my signature, it's not like me to venture away from the pure Android experience. And I was very excited to see what the 2nd generation of Pixel phones had to offer. However, I must admit that I am disappointed with what Google put out this year. I've decided to go with the V30 and it arrives Monday.
To start, my recent test switch from the Pixel XL to the Galaxy S8 (about 4 months ago now) has been surprisingly great. Sure, TouchWiz is no "Pure Android", but I've found the S8 to be extremely fast and hasn't missed a beat for me. So I've learned first hand that you can still have excellent performance on a non-Pixel/Nexus phone.
I've also gotten hooked on wireless charging. I have a Qi wireless charger on my night stand and one in my office. My relatives have all seemingly adopted the most current Samsung and LG phones and all have multiple QI chargers in their homes, as well. So I've been able to fully adopt wireless charging in my daily life. In fact, my OEM USB C charger is still sitting in the original packaging, unused.
Now that I've experienced how convenient wireless charging is, I honestly could not imagine going back. So the lack of wireless charging in the Pixel 2 XL was a serious Downer for me.
This week I was able to compare the V30 and 2 XL side by side in my local Verizon store. This really helped solidify the V30 for me. Side by side the 2 XL's top, bottom and side bezels look enormous compared to the V30 (and the S8 for that matter). The 2 XL's bezels make the screen appear smaller than it does on the V30 while also making the phone feel notably larger in the hand than the V30. Which is annoying because the V30 is already a relatively large phone.
In addition, the user interface on the V30 is very fluid and smooth. Easily as fast as the 2XL, from my quick 5 minute comparison. I actually like LGs take on Android with their latest skin. And if I get sick of it, I can quickly install a Pixel theme with Nova and mirror the Pixel user interface exactly.
In fact, after using pure Android phones for so long, I'd even go as far as to say that the user interface on the 2 XL is boring. Oreo feels the same as Nougat, which feels the same as Marshmallow. Sure it's fast but it's almost too simple and feels the same as it has the past 2+ years.
I know many will disagree but at this point I feel that the pure Android experience has grown tired, stale and featureless. The little tweaks and features that LG and Samsung have added with they're skins are actually quite great and have progressed Android much further than stock Android has over the past couple of years.
However, with all that said, both are great phones and I don't think you can truly go wrong either way. It just depends on what you are looking for. If you are one to root and flash kernels/ROMs, the decision for you is easy. But for me, my days of rooting are behind me and the 2 XL is slightly too large and is missing a few too many little features to justify the price point over the V30.
Yeah, I had my sights on the V30, still do, to be honest. However, at the end of the day, quick updates from Google is where it's at and the P2 phones are getting three years of them (although I am honestly likely to upgrade in a year or two).
Having said that, when the V30 drops in price, I will definitely consider picking one up as a backup. I love the idea of a HiFi DAC and the second wide angle camera. I just can't stay away from pure Android for my main driver.
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I guess the V30 is like a Pixel 2xl with LG skin, Bloat, Expandable Memory, Ear Bud Jack, 2 year warranty promo, slippery back, ( I handled on @att) different audio and camera hardware.
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I guess the V30 is like a Pixel 2xl with LG skin, Bloat, Expandable Memory, Ear Bud Jack, 2 year warranty promo, slippery back, ( I handled on @att) different audio and camera hardware.
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Yea, they aren't that much alike from what I see. Similar maybe, but that's about it. Pretty much a coincidence that the P2 XL and V30 were released at the same time. That's not a bad thing and nothing implied about either. Both awesome phones. I can't give up that update on the 1st Monday of the month.
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To start, my recent test switch from the Pixel XL to the Galaxy S8 (about 4 months ago now) has been surprisingly great. Sure, TouchWiz is no "Pure Android", but I've found the S8 to be extremely fast and hasn't missed a beat for me. So I've learned first hand that you can still have excellent performance on a non-Pixel/Nexus phone.
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Yea I had the Pixel XL, sold it and went back to an iPhone just for battery life because my Pixel XL wasnt getting more than 3 hours of SOT, and then traded the iPhone for an s8 + $200 on Craigslist. So i've been rocking the s8 for a couple months now and I can agree that its gotten a lot better than it use to be. Its my first Samsung that i've actually given a try since my Note 4 that I had and hated. Needless to say I hate that they dont get the updates but as you have said in your post, is the updates worth the look/features of another phone right now. I watch quite a bit of content on my phone without headphones so the stereo speakers would be nice but after having the s8 and no bezels (I know its not a huge thing but I like a sexy looking phone) it will be hard to go back to ones with a lot of bezel. The V30 is just perfect, I'm not a fan of the s8 curved edges as sometimes you wanna touch something along the edge and just cant get it. Only gripe on the v30 has been the camera which Verizon is sending me out another unit because they think its faulty. Last night I had 4 hours of SOT and still 35% left which is the best i've ever had on an Android phone. I use messenger/facebook/snapchat etc so I kill batteries fast and this thing just handles it like its nothing. I've never owned an LG phone but this thing might have sealed the deal for me. I still have my 2XL on order and when I receive my replacement V30 I should receive the 2XL before my 14 day return period is up so I can use both side by side not in a store having someone breath down my back for a sale.
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As awesome as the v30 looks and on paper, I cannot live with lgs skin, it's hideous
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You can just put another skin on top. Afaik the hardware is nearly the same on both phones (except camera) so maybe there will be also a smooth bugfree aosp rom for the v30 too.
Tbh I also looking forward to the Mate 10 presentation tomorrow, because Huawei is making the best UI from all skin androids regarding performance.
So maybe I just get a Mate10 and put pixel / nova launcher on it, instead going with the pixel 2 xl.
I preordered Pixel 2 xl (release in germany in 15.11.17) but if the mate 10 has more advantages i would go with huawei this year.
Is the LGV30 rootable? The latest update thing from pixel phones can be solved if the phone is rootable...
After leaving the gym this morning, I decided to poke my head back into the Verizon store next door to spend some more time doing a hands on side-by-side comparison.
In playing with both phones, I started taking some observations made by others into account, as well. One thing that I must admit is very cool, is the ability to squeeze the 2 XL to open Google Assistant. One of my concerns with this was whether squeezing the phone would lift a full coverage tempered glass screen protector. I am concerned that the addition of a TPU case, paired with a full coverage screen protector, would be an issue with this because the front edges of the TPU case would likely push into the screen protector whenever you activated the assistant. This could potentially lift the screen protector around the edges, which would get annoying. But the reality of this concern is yet to be seen.
The other thing others mentioned was just how ugly the built in LG dialer and messages apps are. I spent time trying to make a call in the LG dialer and the built in messages and have to agree that both those apps provide a very ugly experience. And since LG/Samsun make it next to impossible to fully replace the dialer/messages apps, it's something you'd have to live with in one way or another. Going back to the built in dialer and messages apps on the 2 XL were a breath of fresh air.
In addition, this time around I decided to test the speakers on each phone. I've gotta say, the front facing stereo speakers on the 2 XL are pretty spectacular. Especially when directly compared to the V30 and my S8. The bottom speaker on the V30 and S8 sound very "raspy" and hollow, in comparison. Plus, those bottom facing speakers don't get nearly as loud and are easy to accidentally cover with your finger. For my testing I used the Youtube app to test Marquees Brownlee's Pixel 2 XL YouTube review video and then the "Imagine Dragons - Believer" video, to give me an idea of how music and normal web content would sound. The front facing speakers on the 2 XL truly put the S8 and V30 to shame. At just 50% volume the 2 XL speakers were as loud as the V30 and S8 speakers were at full volume. And the overall sound from the 2 XL was much more "full". I suppose that's to be expected but I was surprised by just how big the difference is.
Admittedly, the front facing speakers truly have me back to considering the 2 XL, since I do spend a good amount of time consuming video/audio content on my phone, through the built-in speaker(s). However, I hate that I'd have to give up wireless charging and I still think the bezels on the 2 XL are ugly compared to the V30. Plus, in trying to picture 3 months down the road, when the initial "new toy" excitement wears off, I'm now considering whether or not I'd prefer to have the 2 XL's inevitably great dev community to fall back on to mess around with. Needless to say, the decision has grown more difficult for me....
DAmn this is why I posted a thread on this. I didn’t see this one. The screen and overall feel of the V30 plus the dual camera makes me want the V30. The updates and speakers plus google goodies makes me want the pixel. I want a really beautiful screen and don’t want so feel like I have a tiny screen because of the pixel speakers. Man this is harder than I thought
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DAmn this is why I posted a thread on this. I didn’t see this one. The screen and overall feel of the V30 plus the dual camera makes me want the V30. The updates and speakers plus google goodies makes me want the pixel. I want a really beautiful screen and don’t want so feel like I have a tiny screen because of the pixel speakers. Man this is harder than I thought
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I've made an interesting decision, for now. I went ahead and pre-ordered the 2 XL. In addition, I have JUMP! On-Demand with T-Mobile. I'm going to use that to trade my S8 in for the V30 when the local store near me gets their V30 stock this week (hopefully tomorrow). So I'll get up to 14 days to play with the V30 as a daily driver. This will either lead me to canceling my 2 XL order before it ships or turning the V30 in for one of their super cheap phones to have as a backup to the 2 XL.
....or maybe I'll just keep both and let this indecision linger for months to come. :laugh:
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I've made an interesting decision, for now. I went ahead and pre-ordered the 2 XL. In addition, I have JUMP! On-Demand with T-Mobile. I'm going to use that to trade my S8 in for the V30 when the local store near me gets their V30 stock this week (hopefully tomorrow). So I'll get a couple of weeks to play with the V30 as a daily driver. This will either lead me to canceling my 2 XL order before it ships or turning he V30 in for one of their super cheap phones to have as a backup to the 2 XL.
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Awesome let us know! My pixel 2XL is due here between the 27-31st now if it ships earlier that’s different. I do know I have a return policy with Google I can’t recall if it’s the carrier 15 day remorse or he 30 day ?!
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Oh and another plus for the V30 it’s 600mhrz compatible
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I've made an interesting decision, for now. I went ahead and pre-ordered the 2 XL. In addition, I have JUMP! On-Demand with T-Mobile. I'm going to use that to trade my S8 in for the V30 when the local store near me gets their V30 stock this week (hopefully tomorrow). So I'll get up to 14 days to play with the V30 as a daily driver. This will either lead me to canceling my 2 XL order before it ships or turning the V30 in for one of their super cheap phones to have as a backup to the 2 XL.
....or maybe I'll just keep both and let this indecision linger for months to come. :laugh:
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Yeah thats what I'm doing right now, got the v30 and love it besides the camera like i said, somethings wrong with it. Sending me a replacement and i get the new 15 days added on so it'll line me up to give them both a try for like 3-4 days together until the v30 would need to go back. The 27th cant come fast enough. Gonna go to the other 2 verizon stores in town tomorrow and see if I can get to play around with them since the one i went to today was "broke"
I made a list of advantages of both phones over on the V30 forum, which has been updated an added to, since . Here goes:
Pro V30
Headphone jack and DAC (not sure I'll be able to appreciate the latter with $100-headphones and spotify, though)
Sleeker design (but it'll live in a case anyways)
Smaller bezels
Smaller and lighter
Probably a tad cheaper
AOD seems to be more useful, incl. controls
Qi wireless charging
Higher IP 68 rating (even WITH 3.5mm headphone jack)
dual cameras -- one with f/1.6 and one with a wide angle lens
Pro P2XL
Better overall camera (esp. if you don't use manual mode)
Better low light/high dynamic range pics
Pure Android, no bloatware
Faster updates, esp. monthly security updates
Purportedly better support than LG
No breakable, smudgy glass back
RGB led
front-facing stereo speakers (the one thing the LG V30 doesn't have)
I am leaning towards the P2XL. One reason is that I’m not a big content creator (definitely not going to dive into manual photo/video modes), the other is that while the V30 may be the overall better package today, the P2XL will get better for a long time, especially once Android P drops, which will probably take LG at least six months to implement.
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I made a list of advantages of both phones over on the V30 forum, which has been updated an added to, since . Here goes:
Pro V30
Headphone jack and DAC (not sure I'll be able to appreciate the latter with $100-headphones and spotify, though)
Sleeker design (but it'll live in a case anyways)
Smaller bezels
Smaller and lighter
Probably a tad cheaper
AOD seems to be more useful, incl. controls
Qi wireless charging
Higher IP 68 rating (even WITH 3.5mm headphone jack)
dual cameras -- one with f/1.6 and one with a wide angle lens
Pro P2XL
Better overall camera (esp. if you don't use manual mode)
Better low light/high dynamic range pics
Pure Android, no bloatware
Faster updates, esp. monthly security updates
Purportedly better support than LG
No breakable, smudgy glass back
RGB led
front-facing stereo speakers (the one thing the LG V30 doesn't have)
I am leaning towards the P2XL. One reason is that I’m not a big content creator (definitely not going to dive into manual photo/video modes), the other is that while the V30 may be the overall better package today, the P2XL will get better for a long time, especially once Android P drops, which will probably take LG at least six months to implement.
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I’m in the same boat. I have decided to just wait on my Pixel2XL it’s def the better phone and def better for me
After a full 24 hours with my V30, I've already decided that when my 2 XL arrives, I'll be returning the V30 to T-Mobile.
The main draws for me toward the V30 were wireless charging and the smaller form factor/bezels. In addition, while I understand the headphone jack is becoming an outdated "feature", I do still prefer it for the sole purpose of quickly plugging some headphones in when a client calls me. This happens multiple times each day so I do find it convenient. Powering on and pairing a set of bluetooth headphones would likely lead to me missing calls from clients.
I truly wanted to love this V30, but so far it's been nothing but disappointment.
1) I'm already experiencing notable lag (as others in the V30 forum have pointed out) when opening the app drawer in Nova Launcher and scrolling through various apps like Instagram, Facebook, Chrome and even LG's own LG SmartWorld theme app. I've performed all the steps others recommended to fix it (i.e. enabling GPU rendering, and turning animation scaling to .5x). However, the lag/stuttering remains. Rebooting solves it for a couple of hours but then it comes right back.
2) Wifi connection with the V30 is considerably worse than it was on my Galaxy S8 and my previous Pixel XL. My office is in the very front of the house and the router is near the back of the house. Nonetheless, my S8 and Pixel XL were both able to acquire 3-4 signal bars and get 50mbps+ download speeds in the office. The V30 hovers between 0 and 2 bars and never achieves anything more than 5mbps. It's so bad that I'd be better off not using Wifi with the V30 in the front office.
3) 4G signal strength seems to have similar issues. At my gym my S8 and Pixel XL always had full 4G bars and great download speeds. My V30 hovers around 1-2 bars and Spotify songs are always pausing to buffer. This was never an issue with my previous two phones.
4) I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom facing speaker while watching videos. Admittedly, this was an issue for me with the S8 and original Pixel XL, as well. This has me completely re-thinking those front facing speakers on the 2 XL. When I did my side by side comparison of the 2 XL and V30 in the Verizon store, the front facing speakers on the 2 XL blew me away with their performance, compared to the V30 and S8.
I'll have to live with the larger bezels and lack of wireless charging with the 2 XL. And I'll have to figure out a bluetooth headphone solution while in my office. But my immediate experience with the V30 has been bad enough that it's only made me more excited to get my hands on the 2 XL in the next couple of weeks.
EDIT: Add Feedly to the list of apps with obnoxious stuttering issues. Oh and the Google keyboard K
started randomly failing to recognize finger swipe gestures, forcing me to resort to tap-to-type.
There is something seriously wrong with this LG software. It's making me miss my S8, at this point. ?
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After a full 24 hours with my V30, I've already decided that when my 2 XL arrives, I'll be returning the V30 to T-Mobile.
The main draws for me toward the V30 were wireless charging and the smaller form factor/bezels. In addition, while I understand the headphone jack is becoming an outdated "feature", I do still prefer it for the sole purpose of quickly plugging some headphones in when a client calls me. This happens multiple times each day so I do find it convenient. Powering on and pairing a set of bluetooth headphones would likely lead to me missing calls from clients.
I truly wanted to love this V30, but so far it's been nothing but disappointment.
1) I'm already experiencing notable lag (as others in the V30 forum have pointed out) when opening the app drawer in Nova Launcher and scrolling through various apps like Instagram, Facebook, Chrome and even LG's own LG SmartWorld theme app. I've performed all the steps others recommended to fix it (i.e. enabling GPU rendering, and turning animation scaling to .5x). However, the lag/stuttering remains. Rebooting solves it for a couple of hours but then it comes right back.
2) Wifi connection with the V30 is considerably worse than it was on my Galaxy S8 and my previous Pixel XL. My office is in the very front of the house and the router is near the back of the house. Nonetheless, my S8 and Pixel XL were both able to acquire 3-4 signal bars and get 50mbps+ download speeds in the office. The V30 hovers between 0 and 2 bars and never achieves anything more than 5mbps. It's so bad that I'd be better off not using Wifi with the V30 in the front office.
3) 4G signal strength seems to have similar issues. At my gym my S8 and Pixel XL always had full 4G bars and great download speeds. My V30 hovers around 1-2 bars and Spotify songs are always pausing to buffer. This was never an issue with my previous two phones.
4) I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom facing speaker while watching videos. Admittedly, this was an issue for me with the S8 and original Pixel XL, as well. This has me completely re-thinking those front facing speakers on the 2 XL. When I did my side by side comparison of the 2 XL and V30 in the Verizon store, the front facing speakers on the 2 XL blew me away with their performance, compared to the V30 and S8.
I'll have to live with the larger bezels and lack of wireless charging with the 2 XL. And I'll have to figure out a bluetooth headphone solution while in my office. But my immediate experience with the V30 has been bad enough that it's only made me more excited to get my hands on the 2 XL in the next couple of weeks.
EDIT: Add Feedly to the list of apps with obnoxious stuttering issues. Oh and the Google keyboard K
started randomly failing to recognize finger swipe gestures, forcing me to resort to tap-to-type.
There is something seriously wrong with this LG software. It's making me miss my S8, at this point.
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Ouch, sorry you had that bad of an experience with it... Only "downside" i've had with the v30 in the week i've been using it is my wifi disconnects all the time randomly and I have an Orbi Mesh wifi system at home so i'm never more than 15-20 ft from a router/satellite, and the Camera is meh on the backside. Its been buttery smooth for me for the week but I've been in the boat where people say the same thing I am saying and mine lagged like whoa. I am excited for the Pixel 2 XL though, I wish I had patience to hold out for the Panda one but I think i'll just order up a white bottom dbrand skin and toss that on and go reverse
I was wondering if anyone made that move ?
I am considering doing so, however I'd like feedbacks from people that might have done that move.
Cheers !
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I was wondering if anyone made that move ?
I am considering doing so, however I'd like feedbacks from people that might have done that move.
Cheers !
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This is what i'm thinking of doing too. Might be worth buying one to test for yourself and send it back if you don't like the 5T? It'll be interesting to read others users thoughts on this.
Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Hey I love the 5T...the Pixel XL is junk, well, at least the screen is. It has issues no doubt. 5T screen is better IMO. Camera, obviously not as good. Neither has an external SD Card?!?!?! Why!!!!!
Anyway, for the money, 5T is hard to beat honestly. Dev support is descent, but not like HTC or Pixel/Google phones.
I had an S8+ for 1 day. Of course, since you can't root without breaking everything like Android pay and Safety Net...no thanks. The S8+ is a near perfect phone, but their abillity to allow you to unlock the bootloader and customize...is nonexistent. Got rid of it. I'm in the US, so the exynos won't work in this country which does allow bootloader unlocking...ridiculous.
I've been an HTC fan for 8yrs now. Just sold my HTC 10. The camera on this OnePlus 5 is better than anything HTC has produced ever. The camera isn't that bad. The OnePlus takes photos as good as my daughter's iPhone 7 Plus. And that camera is no slouch. In fact, head to head, my photos are often better with the 5T.
Anyway...I can imagine the 6 and 6T are going to be a pretty nice. Snapdragon 845 already confirmed for the 6 in a few months they claim it will be released.
Otherwise, I'm not personally dropping $800+ on a new phone no matter who makes it. Which rules Pixel, Huawei, Samsung whatever, and Def iPhone garbage out of the picture. I never spent more than $500-600 on any phone the last 8yrs. HTC resell is pretty good, plus I would wait about 4-6 months after their premier release version to buy it and it is discounted.
Also, my HTC 10 charge port started smelling like burning plaster and wouldn't charge. I had to send it back, and it could take 4 months for them to "evaluate" the burning in Taiwan, then send it back to Seattle, where they say they might not even replace it. They just want to examine it. It is under their uh-oh warranty...so don't know WTF they even care what has happened to it, they will give almost anybody a replacement phone.
Oh well...saw further below that you got the 5T and are keeping it. Version 6 will be out by end of March...so, take it from there. So far, really like the OnePlus...just wish it had a slightly better camera and an SDCard slot.
I was using a Pixel XL for a year and pre-ordered the Pixel 2 XL on launch day.
I got my Pixel 2 XL on October 18th and used it for 2 weeks and there were a lot of good things about it that I liked. It only had a few issues that I could not overlook:
The screen was of poor quality. I'm not talking about unsaturated looking, either. It had harsh blue shift that was impossible not to see in normal day-to-day usage. It also had very poor picture quality when used in a dark room at low brightness. Like everything was too dark yet bright parts of pictures were very bright. Like the contrast of the screen was junk. This was also apparent when viewing pictures at full brightness, but only if I held up my Pixel XL next to it and compared the two. Again, very apparent at low brightness, not as much at normal brightness. Since I like to use my phone at night in the dark, this was a huge pain point. I had no burn-in or noticeable grain in the screen. I was worried moving from a Pixel XL with a quality Samsung panel to a Pixel 2 XL with a questionable LG panel would be a problem, and I was 100% correct.
The battery charging speed. This was something that the Pixel XL wasn't very good at, and I couldn't even get 1% per minute. The Pixel 2 XL was in the same boat, slow charging. Even slower than my old S7 Edge with a larger battery!
These two things were just too much to accept with a $950 device. I returned it to Google for a full refund. Bought the 5T 128GB model on launch day and received it on Black Friday. The 5T has a good screen (like the Pixel XL) and the fastest possible charging option. I also saved like $400 buying the 5T so I got a PS 4 Pro with the extra cash. It's been the best decision I've made since buying the original Pixel XL which was a great phone.
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Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Do you have some camera samples from your S8+ that you could replicate with the 5T and share them with us ?
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Same here !
At first I got OnePlus 5T.. in this phone everything was great, except for camera. Camera is a complete disaster - I do not know how people can be taking decent pictures without optical image stabilization. In my case when you look carefully at edges - there was a blur. Tried many camera softwares - the phone simply can't take good pics without OIS. Based on rumors, OnePlus 6 doesn't intend to include OIS in the camera either. Which is sad, as camera modules are about $15 a piece.. likely OIS would be a few dollars more. So, in summary:
OnePlus 5T:
Pros:
- Everything about the phone, screen, performance, development community
Annoyances (not a deal breaker)
- Separate switch on the side of Do not Disturb, Silent, Loud mode. Why on earth this can't be done via volume keys (Mute -> Vibrate -> Loud) and perhaps few other modes?
- Fingerprint reader., especially in the middle of the screen. Mobile device makers are attempting to convince us that bio-metrics are safe, while even US government wasn't able to prevent breach of biometric data of its own employees..
- Mobile camera in the corner, not in the middle of the back panel - in place of a fingerprint. Sometimes camera is obstructed by fingers, perhaps it is just a matter of habit.
Deal breaker:
- Crappy camera with lack of optical image stabilization. No matter what software does via EIS - it is not the same
Outcome: OnePlus 5T returned.
Then - decided to get Pixel 2 XL, hoping that it would get better shots. What a disaster of a phone it is.. around 1,100 Canadian - that is on sale.
Pros:
- Perhaps camera, but in two days took some photos, they didn't look nice either
Deal breaker/disasters:
- Screen - non bright, cheap looking
- I also didn't like the curvy screen. No benefits, as the image is displayed on front of the screen, not on the curves. Only adds to ridiculous and unnecessary cost of the device.
- Screen edges - round. Maybe this is Google's "Style", but falls into a complete disaster category in my book. Even worse - initial version of the software had these roundish corners on top, and at the bottom had three white software keys on black background. Of course when the menu was on, lower corners were squared. When you look at combination of round above, and squared below - you feel like you are not seeing right, and time to visit a nuthouse.
- Even better - with the update to fix burn in issue - menu became lighter / grey color, with transparency - with white buttons. When you are hitting the soft buttons - your mind registers as if you are hitting background.
- Support.. Google won't admit that they include screen burn in issue as part of their warranty. But they do - it took > 10 minutes in chat with Google Support to squeeze out of them the simple confirmation that burn in is covered by the 2 year warranty. So if you are unfortunate to end up with Pixel XL 2 and can't squeeze the confirmation from Google - IM me, and I will gladly share the conversation transcript
- Even better.. when you tap on the phone while it is off (and on too) - it is making hollow sound in the middle, hollow surface is approximately 2./3 of the width of the phone (in the middle) and 3/4 of the phone vertically (in the middle). This gives a feeling of a very cheap and uneven device which doesn't feel solid.
Outcome: Pixel 2 XL returned..
But the phone is still needed.. I looked on Ebay - there are many brand new Nexus 5 and 5X for couple of hundred bucks.. Also, yesterdays hardware is dirt cheap brand new. E.g. Lg G4 is $120. Yes, G4s randomly die, not all of them can be rooted, but still.
Nexues run Camera NX.. Also, just realized, that before Pixels, Google used to publish their camera software without limitations to their own hardware. APK sites should have old versions of the software. When you are looking for older hardware, remember that Camera NX needs 64 bit CPU.
If you are still on the fence, good luck with the choice! And remember that if you do not need latest and greatest - you can get solid performers (models from a year or few ago) for 1/5th of their initial price.
You may consider the camera.
Went from Pixel 2xl to 5t.
I miss the dual front speakers
I miss the camera
5t charging speed is insane
5t battery is amazing
Do I regret it, hell no.
5t is the tits
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Went from Pixel 2xl to 5t.
I miss the dual front speakers
I miss the camera
5t charging speed is insane
5t battery is amazing
Do I regret it, hell no.
5t is the tits
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Can you elaborate a bit more ?
How's the feel in hands ?
Is the screen that much a difference ?
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Can you elaborate a bit more ?
How's the feel in hands ?
Is the screen that much a difference ?
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In hand the 5t feels slick and lighter than the 2xl. The 2xl I had it without a case and was able to grab the phone a lot better than I could with the 5t without a case. That being said yes both phone have fallen from my hands or from my lap when I get out of the car. The 5t is able to take a hit better than the 2xl. The 2xl casing cracked, the 5t casing only has scratches. Also, ive actually dropped the 5t in the bathtub of running water as I watched better call Saul while showering. I did Grab it quick but it was fully submerged. Phone still works. Sweet.
Didn't notice much screen size difference.
One other thing the lowest screen setting isn't low enough when laying in bed at night time, you'll need to download an app to make it lower. My wife has the pixelxl, her screen goes much lower than mine.
I grew up Google fan from original Nexus to Nexus 6p, pixel XL, pixel 2 xl. In an attempt to sell my slightly damaged p2xl someone offered me this new 5t in box with $300 cash in addition. I figured why not... I'm glad I did.
I stopped flashing ROMs due to always coming back to original stock with magisk.
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In hand the 5t feels slick and lighter than the 2xl. The 2xl I had it without a case and was able to grab the phone a lot better than I could with the 5t without a case. That being said yes both phone have fallen from my hands or from my lap when I get out of the car. The 5t is able to take a hit better than the 2xl. The 2xl casing cracked, the 5t casing only has scratches. Also, ive actually dropped the 5t in the bathtub of running water as I watched better call Saul while showering. I did Grab it quick but it was fully submerged. Phone still works. Sweet.
Didn't notice much screen size difference.
One other thing the lowest screen setting isn't low enough when laying in bed at night time, you'll need to download an app to make it lower. My wife has the pixelxl, her screen goes much lower than mine.
I grew up Google fan from original Nexus to Nexus 6p, pixel XL, pixel 2 xl. In an attempt to sell my slightly damaged p2xl someone offered me this new 5t in box with $300 cash in addition. I figured why not... I'm glad I did.
I stopped flashing ROMs due to always coming back to original stock with magisk.
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Great, and regarding the screen quality / colors / contrast & black crush ?
I went from 5T to first gen. Pixel XL. Simply put, 5T camera is crap. I got a feeling that the problems with the camera wont never be fixed properly. If good quality photos are needed, I cant recommend the 5T.
Otherwise 5T is a great device and I liked it.
I'm switching from the 5T to a Pixel 2 XL (ordered with a good deal) just for the pure Android/fast updates and better camera. 5T is an awesome device specially for money.
5T is amazing. The biggest and pretty much only downfall is the camera between this and pixel XL 2, and I personally am talking from coming from the original pixel XL, which camera was also better there. If you can get past the camera, 5T is the way to go.
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Also came from the 2 XL and I'm not one to try every flagship on the market before deciding which one to keep.
I had exchanged the 2 XL for defects twice. From touchscreen issues to dead pixel clusters. I eventually decided the display wasn't worth the price of the phone.
The blue shift is way over blown. Two of the devices I received had it and one didn't. It's not something that bugged me or noticed in daily use.
What did bug me was horrible brightness uniformity and graininess. And between receiving 3 different devices there were massive variations in display quality (color temperature, graininess, digitizer response). So it seems like buying one is like playing the lotto.
I miss the camera and the front facing speakers (no where near HTC m7,m8, m9 quality but better than the 5t).
It's a nice phone but it's not worth $1k.
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5T is amazing. The biggest and pretty much only downfall is the camera between this and pixel XL 2, and I personally am talking from coming from the original pixel XL, which camera was also better there. If you can get past the camera, 5T is the way to go.
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I came from an original pixel to the 5T, yes the pixel camera was better but imo some pictures look more natural looking with the 5T camera. I guess it's down to personal taste. Low light photos the 5T isn't as great as the pixel but it's still a good camera on the 5T.
I came from the 2nd gen Pixel and would not hesitate to recommend the 5t. The screen on the 5T has better color saturation and higher max brightness. Scrolling/smoothness isn't quite as good on the 5T, but it flies just as fast. Dash charge is insanely fast. The camera on the 5T can perform just as well as the Pixel under the right conditions but I wouldn't count on it for every point and shoot situation like you can with the Pixel. I snapped the attached pic a couple of week ago and thought it turned out great with absolutely no editing. The Google cases were cool, but the OnePlus Ebony wood bumper is the best I've had on a phone and now that there's a sandstone white variant, it looks just as good without a case. The biggest reason for me to switch to the 5T was the developer community. Since you're on XDA I would assume you're in to ROMs and customization which has already exploded for the 5T only a month or so in and for the Pixel is pretty well nonexistent. Phones are pretty much expensive toys for me and the Pixel was way more expensive, offered a great experience, but was ultimately way less fun.
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I came from the 2nd gen Pixel and would not hesitate to recommend the 5t. The screen on the 5T has better color saturation and higher max brightness. Scrolling/smoothness isn't quite as good on the 5T, but it flies just as fast. Dash charge is insanely fast. The camera on the 5T can perform just as well as the Pixel under the right conditions but I wouldn't count on it for every point and shoot situation like you can with the Pixel. I snapped the attached pic a couple of week ago and thought it turned out great with absolutely no editing. The Google cases were cool, but the OnePlus Ebony wood bumper is the best I've had on a phone and now that there's a sandstone white variant, it looks just as good without a case. The biggest reason for me to switch to the 5T was the developer community. Since you're on XDA I would assume you're in to ROMs and customization which has already exploded for the 5T only a month or so in and for the Pixel is pretty well nonexistent. Phones are pretty much expensive toys for me and the Pixel was way more expensive, offered a great experience, but was ultimately way less fun.
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That's an awesome shot indeed, and a lovely looking dog
I think I've got a pretty rough idea of what I want in a phone, and sadly as of now, there is no such thing.
I'll probably be taking a 5T and see how I like it. I know the camera isn't gonna to be as good, but I've seen like every YouTube videos that exists on the subject in the past few days and I think the only way I can decide is to try by myself.
I will keep this thread updated when I'll be receiving mine if I indeed do take one, so that the people that are in such situation, having a supposed superb flagship and that are disappointed can find a bit of information switching to a supposed "worse" phone.
I have read/watched a lot recently about how the Pixel 2 XL's issues have been "fixed" so I thought I would try one for myself. The first screen that comes up when you boot the device is all white, so I had a chance to immediately see if the blue shift was in effect. I am sorry to say it is TERRIBLE. As you can see from the attached image, my Nexus 6P shows a white screen while the Pixel 2 XL screen is quite blue, and the effect is worse in person.
This is very disappointing, and I wanted to let everyone know that this is still an issue. I guess it's not true that Google did something to fix this issue on the hardware/manufacturing side. About 2 hours after delivery, I already have everything boxed up and ready to ship back to Google. The Google chat rep tried to give me the line of "This is how advanced POLED technology works" but I told her to just look at the picture again. My Nexus 6P has almost no blue shift at all even at more extreme angles. Just sitting on the table in front of me should not make the screen turn blue. I use my phone like that a lot, so this would be something I would notice often on the Pixel2 XL
I have owned more Android and Nexus phones than I can count, and I am not trying to hate here. I just want to voice my disappointment and communicate to the community that this issue is still a thing.
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I have read/watched a lot recently about how the Pixel 2 XL's issues have been "fixed" so I thought I would try one for myself. The first screen that comes up when you boot the device is all white, so I had a chance to immediately see if the blue shift was in effect. I am sorry to say it is TERRIBLE. As you can see from the attached image, my Nexus 6P shows a white screen while the Pixel 2 XL screen is quite blue, and the effect is worse in person.
This is very disappointing, and I wanted to let everyone know that this is still an issue. I guess it's not true that Google did something to fix this issue on the hardware/manufacturing side. About 2 hours after delivery, I already have everything boxed up and ready to ship back to Google. The Google chat rep tried to give me the line of "This is how advanced POLED technology works" but I told her to just look at the picture again. My Nexus 6P has almost no blue shift at all even at more extreme angles. Just sitting on the table in front of me should not make the screen turn blue. I use my phone like that a lot, so this would be something I would notice often on the Pixel2 XL
I have owned more Android and Nexus phones than I can count, and I am not trying to hate here. I just want to voice my disappointment and communicate to the community that this issue is still a thing.
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I never heard it was ever fixed just that it is not really a nusense for people wanting all the other benefits vs the 6p I still prefer the colder pixel 2xl white over the warm 6p white but the Sony Xperia xz2 phones have the best I have seen but I have not seen newer Samsung phones that claim to have the best screen
Over the 3 I would still choose the pixel 2xl
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I wish I hadn't bought a pixel... So much regret
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I have read/watched a lot recently about how the Pixel 2 XL's issues have been "fixed" so I thought I would try one for myself. The first screen that comes up when you boot the device is all white, so I had a chance to immediately see if the blue shift was in effect. I am sorry to say it is TERRIBLE. As you can see from the attached image, my Nexus 6P shows a white screen while the Pixel 2 XL screen is quite blue, and the effect is worse in person.
This is very disappointing, and I wanted to let everyone know that this is still an issue. I guess it's not true that Google did something to fix this issue on the hardware/manufacturing side. About 2 hours after delivery, I already have everything boxed up and ready to ship back to Google. The Google chat rep tried to give me the line of "This is how advanced POLED technology works" but I told her to just look at the picture again. My Nexus 6P has almost no blue shift at all even at more extreme angles. Just sitting on the table in front of me should not make the screen turn blue. I use my phone like that a lot, so this would be something I would notice often on the Pixel2 XL
I have owned more Android and Nexus phones than I can count, and I am not trying to hate here. I just want to voice my disappointment and communicate to the community that this issue is still a thing.
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Yeah i notice the same. But honestly in day to day use it isn't bad enough for me to consider another phone. I bought mine in November from VZW so it may be a newer model with this fixed to some extent
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I bought mine in November from VZW so it may be a newer model with this fixed to some extent
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I just got the phone delivered TODAY. I checked the IMEI and the manufacture date is January 9th. That's not terribly recent but still months after release.
I might order another one after I get a refund and see if it is the same, but that would be my last attempt. I should not have to gamble and rely on luck to get a phone that I can use at a slight angle and not have the damn thing turn blue. This is ridiculous.
I never look at my phone in such extreme angles. If anything, your Nexus 6P looks too yellow to me in that angle. It's far from the best but head on it's fine enough for me.
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I never look at my phone in such extreme angles. If anything, your Nexus 6P looks too yellow to me in that angle. It's far from the best but head on it's fine enough for me.
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I don't think having the phone on the table in front of me like that is an "extreme angle". I put my phone on the table next to my laptop like that all the time, so I would notice this daily. True I would not have a Nexus 6P sitting next to it to compare it to, but now that I already know the screen on this Pixel 2 XL turns blue my brain will keep making the association.
HAZ DISSAPOINT!!!
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I don't think having the phone on the table in front of me like that is an "extreme angle". I put my phone on the table next to my laptop like that all the time, so I would notice this daily. True I would not have a Nexus 6P sitting next to it to compare it to, but now that I already know the screen on this Pixel 2 XL turns blue my brain will keep making the association.
HAZ DISSAPOINT!!!
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Just use the phone. It's not that serious.
I just received my phone this week...I have VERY slight blue showing at off angles, not enough for me to exchange or care. Previous phone was a Moto X Pure....This phone is amazing.
64gb black
Manufacture date Feb 6
Just use the phone dude. It's been released for almost 6 months and you still complaining about such silly issue? If it's that bad for you then simply pick another phone.
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I guess I didnt realize people were still complaining about this. Ive had my P2XL for about 4 months now and this has not been an issue, let alone a deal breaker for me at all. And I too came from the 6P. In fact, I had to get my 6P out a couple of weeks ago, and having them side by side, I cant believe the difference in the screens. The P2XL looks much better to me. Is there some blue in the screen at extreme angles? Yes. Does it detract from the performance of the phone or any of its features? No. The 6P was, in my opinion, the best phone Ive owned of many, many, many Android phones, but the P2XL has easily replaced it as my #1.
Dont bother getting another one. We'll just see another post saying, "A week later and blue shift still not fixed! ZOMG!".
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Just use the phone dude. It's been released for almost 6 months and you still complaining about such silly issue? If it's that bad for you then simply pick another phone.
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1. "Still complaining about..." : How can I "still complain" about a device I just bought?? It just arrived yesterday. I bought one and gave it a chance before commenting.
2. "... such silly issue": It's not a silly issue to me, and for you to say so is kinda rude. Who are you to tell me what is a deal-breaker on a device I spent my own money on?
3. "Simply pick another one"?? What other 6-inch, Google-made, clean-Android device is there? There is no other choice.
You and others can accept the device for what it is if you want. I don't want to spend $700 for a device that has an issue I will notice every day for the next 1-2 years.
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1. "Still complaining about..." : How can I "still complain" about a device I just bought?? It just arrived yesterday. I bought one and gave it a chance before commenting.
2. "... such silly issue": It's not a silly issue to me, and for you to say so is kinda rude. Who are you to tell me what is a deal-breaker on a device I spent my own money on?
3. "Simply pick another one"?? What other 6-inch, Google-made, clean-Android device is there? There is no other choice.
You and others can accept the device for what it is if you want. I don't want to spend $700 for a device that has an issue I will notice every day for the next 1-2 years.
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1. You knew what you were getting into. It's had the shift since day one.
2. You didn't even give the phone a chance. Your pic was still at the setup screen. Seriously, you can get used to it.
3. He didn't say pick another Google phone. There's a good handle of alternatives with better screens if it is that serious to you.
JoeNeckbone said:
I just received my phone this week...I have VERY slight blue showing at off angles, not enough for me to exchange or care. Previous phone was a Moto X Pure....This phone is amazing.
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Manufacture date Feb 6
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This is good info, so thanks!! Your phone was made about a month after mine, so maybe that has an effect. I hope that if I get another one it is like yours and I can keep it.
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This is good info, so thanks!! Your phone was made about a month after mine, so maybe that has an effect. I hope that if I get another one it is like yours and I can keep it.
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I got mine last week from Google, black 64 and it has way less of a shift than my brothers v30. I would say mine totally shifts blue at about 45 degrees from dead on, his does almost right away. His phone is 3 months old now. Not sure of his build date. Mine was December '17
In my experience oled panels always experience some shifting. Even the iPhone x I've handled.
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I have read/watched a lot recently about how the Pixel 2 XL's issues have been "fixed" so I thought I would try one for myself. The first screen that comes up when you boot the device is all white, so I had a chance to immediately see if the blue shift was in effect. I am sorry to say it is TERRIBLE. As you can see from the attached image, my Nexus 6P shows a white screen while the Pixel 2 XL screen is quite blue, and the effect is worse in person.
This is very disappointing, and I wanted to let everyone know that this is still an issue. I guess it's not true that Google did something to fix this issue on the hardware/manufacturing side. About 2 hours after delivery, I already have everything boxed up and ready to ship back to Google. The Google chat rep tried to give me the line of "This is how advanced POLED technology works" but I told her to just look at the picture again. My Nexus 6P has almost no blue shift at all even at more extreme angles. Just sitting on the table in front of me should not make the screen turn blue. I use my phone like that a lot, so this would be something I would notice often on the Pixel2 XL
I have owned more Android and Nexus phones than I can count, and I am not trying to hate here. I just want to voice my disappointment and communicate to the community that this issue is still a thing.
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Looking at your picture the Pixel 2 XL looks better. Sure, it looks to have a very cool color temperature but it's also next to a Nexus 6P which is too warm(reddish). The Pixel 2 XL in that picture is much closer to neutral white. Also that's a pretty extreme angle. Mine is about the same at that angle and at normal viewing angles it looks great. It certainly isn't the BEST display I've seen in my entire life in terms of color temperature but it is good. Certainly better than the Nexus 5X I had before which was too cool even at direct viewing and better than the Nexus 6P which is too warm.
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1. "Still complaining about..." : How can I "still complain" about a device I just bought?? It just arrived yesterday. I bought one and gave it a chance before commenting.
2. "... such silly issue": It's not a silly issue to me, and for you to say so is kinda rude. Who are you to tell me what is a deal-breaker on a device I spent my own money on?
3. "Simply pick another one"?? What other 6-inch, Google-made, clean-Android device is there? There is no other choice.
You and others can accept the device for what it is if you want. I don't want to spend $700 for a device that has an issue I will notice every day for the next 1-2 years.
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You will get a colour shift on almost any AMOLED device you can purchase. I have two Galaxy Note 8 phones sitting next to me, and they both shift red and pink off angle. So would you rather have a slightly cool shift when you look at your phone off angle? or a red / pink hue?
The S8+ shifts as does the S9+.
I notice it, but it does not bother me, as it is NOT an issue.
Use it for a week or two, don't obsess over it, use the display head on like 99% of people do, and you will forget it soon enough.
Cooler displays are much better than the reddish or yellowish displays of iphones or samsungs.
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You will get a colour shift on almost any AMOLED device you can purchase.
Use it for a week or two, don't obsess over it, use the display head on like 99% of people do, and you will forget it soon enough.
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Thank you very much for telling me how to use my device, that I paid for and own. It never would occur to me to NOT use the device the way I want to, but to DO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO REGARDLESS OF WHAT I WANT. That makes so much sense I don't know why it never occurred to me. /s
As for "other screens have color shift too", that's irrelevant. Yes, my Nexus 6P has some, but it's slight and only at really crazy angles. That's why I posted a picture of the two side-by-side. I had both of them in my hands, and compared them myself. One (6P) had a very acceptable level of shift, the other (Pixel 2 XL) was not acceptable.
I guess the good news for me is that so many of you have phones that don't show much blue shift. That means that if I order another one, I have a decent chance to get one that's better.
My Pixel 2 XL has the issue but I never notice it. I look at my phone normally, not on a weird angle that means I cannot see the top right corner. That's the bit I don't get, you have to twist the viewing angle to a position that makes using the screen useless anyway and then rant it's got a blue tint. You can't see the text properly anyway so why do you want to use your phone at the angle? Lots of screens have tints if you view them at the WRONG angle.
How's this for an issue?:
I've had my 2 xl for about 2 weeks. It's a refurb from Amazon deal.of the day.
The display generally has the colder blue whites,which I like, that my preference. But, sometimes while using it, the white background on the screen will suddenly switch to this warm-ish white, seems pinkish to me. I'll try to use my phone off axis when it does that because I prefer the cold blue whites (like my essential phones display, - I LOVE that display)
Anyone else experiencing anything like this? I googled it and am not seeing anything - other people comaining about blue shift. (I'd like it to have 'blue shift' all the time lol)
FWIW: all the refurbs Amazon sold seem to be VZW branded, and I'm on Jan 05 2019 SW update. (Oh, and of course I'm pissed the refurbs are VZW, didn't know until it arrived, was so looking forward to unlocked bootloader and root and joining custom ROM community again.
Just wanted to findout your thoughts those who've used oneplus 5t or the new oneplus 6. What are your day to day usage views and observations in comparison to the pixel 2 xl. For me first I immediately noticed the pixel does get warm as am on the latest beta. Android p is also definitely smooth and what I miss the most from oneplus is the dash charging that thing is quick. It's too early for me to comment about the performance changes between the devices so I would really appreciate your views around performance in particular thanks.
Had a Pixel 2 XL, got a OnePlus 6, sold it and now I'm back with the Pixel 2 XL. Things I miss from the OP6 are the display (mostly because of the black crush in most pixel 2 xl displays), dash charging and the headphone jack. Other than that the Pixel 2 XL is better in every way for me.
EDIT: I really didn't notice much of a performance difference. I think the OP6 is a little faster but the Pixel 2 XL is smoother.
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Had a Pixel 2 XL, got a OnePlus 6, sold it and now I'm back with the Pixel 2 XL. Things I miss from the OP6 are the display (mostly because of the black crush in most pixel 2 xl displays), dash charging and the headphone jack. Other than that the Pixel 2 XL is better in every way for me.
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Thanks so what things brought you back. Only had my pixel 2 a few days so still undecided thanks.
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Thanks so what things brought you back. Only had my pixel 2 a few days so still undecided thanks.
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Basically everything except for the three things I mentioned. Battery life was about equal and I couldn't really notice the improved 845. The camera and software are so much better on the Pixel. I also like the panda color way better than any of the OP6 variants. The notch also kind of bothered me. I'd say the only reasons for getting the OP6 are if you really care about the extra performance of the 845 like for playing games or something or if the price/headphone jack is really important to you.
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Basically everything except for the three things I mentioned. Battery life was about equal and I couldn't really notice the improved 845. The camera and software are so much better on the Pixel. I also like the panda color way better than any of the OP6 variants. The notch also kind of bothered me. I'd say the only reasons for getting the OP6 are if you really care about the extra performance of the 845 like for playing games or something or if the price/headphone jack is really important to you.
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How bad is the notch is it very noticeable?
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How bad is the notch is it very noticeable?
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It's kind of annoying. Hiding it definitely helps. I think I dislike it more than the average person so take my annoyance with it with a grain of salt. One thing that did reaaaallly annoy me is because the status bar is on the notch, and theres no fingerprint gesture, pulling down the notification shade was always a little annoying because it's very high on the screen, definitely not possible with one hand if your hands aren't that big.
I've owned the following:
OnePlus 5
OnePlus 5T
OnePlus6
Pixel XL
I currently own the Pixel 2XL.
I loved my OnePlus 5 and regret selling it to this day because it would have been a great backup phone to keep around.
I Didn't like the 5T because it had some strange screen inconsistencies, and the vibration motor felt very cheap and "loose".
I got the OnePlus 6, and ended up returning it within 7-8 days. It was a good phone, don't get me wrong, but I will explain why I returned it:
The Camera
Probably the biggest reason. I don't know if it's because I'm spoiled with the 2XL's camera, but the 6's felt slightly below average.
The Notch
This didn't bother me too much as I am quite indifferent about it, however, losing the ability for centre clock is what bugged me.
The Vibration Motor
Similar to the 5T, the vibration motor feels very cheap and "loose" if that makes sense. Again, maybe I'm spoiled with the 2XL's vibration, but it is far more superior than the 6.
Development
I'm no developer by any means, however, I am aware that the introduction of the A/B slots causes for some challenging custom development. I had no idea the OnePlus 6 was going to follow this trend. I'm sure there will still be tons of custom development available for that phone, however, I would have preferred if it didn't have this A/B layout.
Price
In Canada, the device was roughly $890 taxes in, with a glass screen protector. Definitely not in the budget range, especially given the fact that I got my 2XL second-hand for only $750!
Speakers
Despite some speaker rattling issues and whatnot, the 2XL still has much better speakers than the 6. Front-firing and two of them instead of one automatically makes it much better.
I do miss Dash Charge though. However, charging times aren't extremely important to me as I'm always around a charger (two in the house, one in the car, and also have a 26k mah power bank).
The 6 did seem faster in terms of things like app launches (it spent less time on the splash screen compared to the 2XL). But that was about it; with my animation scale set to 0.3x, the 2XL feels just as fast.
I'm going to stick with my 2XL for the time being
Gonna purchase a used phone soon. Which one do ya think?? Pixel 2 xl or OP5t??
I had both phones.
In my opinion both are great phones with great performance. I had the 8/128 version on OP5T and it was blazing fast. But the camera was the thing i switched to Pïxel 2 XL.
Now i love it and to be honest i dont see much difference in performace. But i use it mostly for browsing, youtube and whastapp. And debugging my apps so i dont give it a hard time also.
If you have specific questions please let me know.
The camera of 1+5t is disappointed compere the pixel.
Beside that is a good phone.
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2xl if you want stay on stock rom and 5t if you want a custom rom...
Pixel is better anyday. You will get two more major updates. That should say it all
2XL hands down. Had a OP5, camera was garbage and gcam ports have a million problems on OP5/T. Front facing speakers, 1440p screen, ip67, better vibration motor (very important to me), more premium design, killer camera.
I had the OP 5T and it was rock solid. Very good batterylife for me, blazing fast and OP gives you Major updates and small updates regulary. Now i own a Pixel 2XL and so far its very nice and i Like it a Lot.
Pro's for the OP 5T:
Batterylife
Performance (2GB of more RAM are noticable imo)
Faster FP unlock + stunning fast Face Unlock
Pro's for the Pixel 2XL:
Much better camera
More premium feel (tho the OP 5T feels nice too)
Pixel Features (free Photos Upload etc.)
Always Up to Date Android (with still one more big Update to come at a Minimum and more then 1.5 years of Security Updates)
So all in all i think if i had to buy a new phone and they would have the same price i think i would go for the Pixel 2 XL again. If i could get the OP 6 or 6T for the price i think i would go with Them, because I really Like more batterylife and with gcam port you can get good Photos Out of their camera too and Performance is better
Hope i didn't forget anything.
100rabh7791 said:
Pixel is better anyday. You will get two more major updates. That should say it all
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1+5t has a better screen, faster phone, major updates, headphone jack.
OP if you're considering a OnePlus phone I would go with the 1+6. I have that and a Pixel 2 XL. I'm always torn on what phone I want to use what day lol.
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daniel4653 said:
1+5t has a better screen, faster phone, major updates, headphone jack.
OP if you're considering a OnePlus phone I would go with the 1+6. I have that and a Pixel 2 XL. I'm always torn on what phone I want to use what day lol.
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I don't think so it has a better screen. Faster phone? By how many seconds? Does headphone jack even matters now??
100rabh7791 said:
I don't think so it has a better screen. Faster phone? By how many seconds? Does headphone jack even matters now??
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Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room. Look closely at the screen and it looks "dusty". My panda slows down a ton when I'm updating apps once a week (about 50 updates on average) and if I try to play a game or open an app. The 1+6 and 1+5t on the other hand can take the same work load and still zoom by without a problem. For me headphone jack is really nice to have. I understand Manufacturers wanting to push people to buy their Bluetooth items, but why not give the consumer the liberty of choosing "hey do I want to use my 3.5mm jack or Bluetooth headset today?".
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Heck right now I've come back to the Pixel XL 2 from the OnePlus 6T. I added oneplus gestures so I could at least have that feature that I liked so much on the Pixel. It's been updated and works a lot better than before.
daniel4653 said:
Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room. Look closely at the screen and it looks "dusty". My panda slows down a ton when I'm updating apps once a week (about 50 updates on average) and if I try to play a game or open an app. The 1+6 and 1+5t on the other hand can take the same work load and still zoom by without a problem. For me headphone jack is really nice to have. I understand Manufacturers wanting to push people to buy their Bluetooth items, but why not give the consumer the liberty of choosing "hey do I want to use my 3.5mm jack or Bluetooth headset today?".
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I'm not sure about 5t screen but yeah 6 might be better. The blue tint doesn't bother me or the black smearing as such. The grain is irritating though. My pixel never slowed down like yours though. Ah well it's debatable when it comes to 3.5mm jack. One plus will also move towards excluding it eventually, you still get an adapter? I've attached mine to my earphones if i ever need them. I use wireless almost all the time though.
I don't know there is something about pixel which no manufacturer can make you feel. The camera obviously is the best in the world. I think you will get more updates with 2xl than with one plus. Also Google will optimise it for pixel more for obvious reasons
I have a Pixel 2 XL and my wife has OnePlus 5T.
So I know both. Literally.
If you want to take picture and fool people that it was a freaking DSLR, take Pixel 2 XL - it's unimaginably good for a phone camera.
If you don't care about taking photos "at all" - Take OnePlus 5T. Pure Android is a midget in front of Shaq O Neil when it comes to software experience in comparison to OxygenOS. It just cannot compete. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't used both extensively. Whether it's battery life, fluidity, features, RAM - like is said, except camera, OnePlus 5T wins in everything.
devlamania said:
I have a Pixel 2 XL and my wife has OnePlus 5T.
So I know both. Literally.
If you want to take picture and fool people that it was a freaking DSLR, take Pixel 2 XL - it's unimaginably good for a phone camera.
If you don't care about taking photos "at all" - Take OnePlus 5T. Pure Android is a midget in front of Shaq O Neil when it comes to software experience in comparison to OxygenOS. It just cannot compete. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't used both extensively. Whether it's battery life, fluidity, features, RAM - like is said, except camera, OnePlus 5T wins in everything.
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Oh come on now you are just exaggerating ... Battery life is better in pixel 2xl , but that depends on your usage as well. I don't see any stutters in my pixel 2xl so I've no complaints regarding performance either. Ram is a hardware and can't be changed, that's our conscious decision.
daniel4653 said:
Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room. Look closely at the screen and it looks "dusty". My panda slows down a ton when I'm updating apps once a week (about 50 updates on average) and if I try to play a game or open an app. The 1+6 and 1+5t on the other hand can take the same work load and still zoom by without a problem. For me headphone jack is really nice to have. I understand Manufacturers wanting to push people to buy their Bluetooth items, but why not give the consumer the liberty of choosing "hey do I want to use my 3.5mm jack or Bluetooth headset today?".
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Regarding the headphone jack, you are right: People who use it extensively probably won't touch a Pixel 2 XL. I personally have never ever used the jack on any phone I had, so it's a non-issue.
The screen on the Pixel 2 XL is a matter of luck: My phone is one of the first ones manufactured (in October 2017), and its screen was OK. I got a replacement screen after dropping my phone, and this one is much better. Hardly any blue shift and better colors (I was really surprised after the replacement!).
I have no problems with app updates, everything works fine. But I rarely game, so YMMV depending on your usage.
But the Pixel 2 XL has the best software I have ever seen on any phone, this is my first phone where I use the stock ROM as-is ( but with Magisk, TWRP and Substratum). It is rock solid, has a very good battery runtime and is super smooth. So I will stick to Pixels for the time being - this also is the first phone where I don't see a need for replacing it after 1 1/2 years.
If the Pixel 4 doesn't have some earth-shattering improvements, I'll stick with my 2 XL as long as it lasts...
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Oh come on now you are just exaggerating ... Battery life is better in pixel 2xl , but that depends on your usage as well. I don't see any stutters in my pixel 2xl so I've no complaints regarding performance either. Ram is a hardware and can't be changed, that's our conscious decision.
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It's a usage based comparison, not an isolated opinion. Besides, I didn't say Pixel 2 XL fluidity is "bad" I said OnePlus 5T is better and it definitely is.
devlamania said:
I have a Pixel 2 XL and my wife has OnePlus 5T.
So I know both. Literally.
If you want to take picture and fool people that it was a freaking DSLR, take Pixel 2 XL - it's unimaginably good for a phone camera.
If you don't care about taking photos "at all" - Take OnePlus 5T. Pure Android is a midget in front of Shaq O Neil when it comes to software experience in comparison to OxygenOS. It just cannot compete. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't used both extensively. Whether it's battery life, fluidity, features, RAM - like is said, except camera, OnePlus 5T wins in everything.
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It's a usage based comparison, not an isolated opinion. Besides, I didn't say Pixel 2 XL fluidity is "bad" I said OnePlus 5T is better and it definitely is.
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That's what i said as well it's usage based but as a general comparison on gsm arena.. 2xl scores over 5t.
I never said that either but 2xl is at a point where you don't really care about the fluidity much because it's already very smooth. The animations may make it look a bit slow but if you disable them you've an equal experience. Who cares about something less than a second. Only the 3.5mm jack is an advantage
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Regarding the headphone jack, you are right: People who use it extensively probably won't touch a Pixel 2 XL. I personally have never ever used the jack on any phone I had, so it's a non-issue.
The screen on the Pixel 2 XL is a matter of luck: My phone is one of the first ones manufactured (in October 2017), and its screen was OK. I got a replacement screen after dropping my phone, and this one is much better. Hardly any blue shift and better colors (I was really surprised after the replacement!).
I have no problems with app updates, everything works fine. But I rarely game, so YMMV depending on your usage.
But the Pixel 2 XL has the best software I have ever seen on any phone, this is my first phone where I use the stock ROM as-is ( but with Magisk, TWRP and Substratum). It is rock solid, has a very good battery runtime and is super smooth. So I will stick to Pixels for the time being - this also is the first phone where I don't see a need for replacing it after 1 1/2 years.
If the Pixel 4 doesn't have some earth-shattering improvements, I'll stick with my 2 XL as long as it lasts...
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I've had 4 Pixel 2 XLs from September to December builds. The December ones are definitely better but still suffer from blotching at low brightness in dark rooms and have the grainy/dusty screens that I described earlier. I agree that the pixel has some of the best software since it's pure, but I still believe OnePlus had done a better job at software than Google from 1+6 onward. This is definitely not the 1st phone I've kept stock. You should give OneUI on a Note 9 a shot. It's unbelievably smooth as butter and the functionality of it is amazing.
At the end, to each their own. And it's true what you said that your milage and experience will vary. The one true reason I come back to the pixels is strictly the camera which is amazing. I will try to find a good offer on a Pixel 3 XL to see how much the pixel has improved with the SD 845
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A key concern should be software updates ..5t can't compete..OnePlus and all other non-pixels are in the milking mode,milk a new release to the max, when sales get slow release a new phone and forget about the older ones
daniel4653 said:
Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room.
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I agree. On my panda 2xl, which i got a month ago, the black crush and ghosting with low screen brightness is quite bad. At least disabling adaptive brightness "solves" the issue. Blue shift is minimal though.
With low brightness, even my old Galaxy S6 behaves much better than the pixel 2 xl. The op6 also uses a Samsung oled panel.