Heya guys and gals.
Just wondering if anyone has any news from the folks at RAZER as to when we'll be seeing that Oreo Update. It was supposed to be out within Q1 2018 which suggests by the end of the month (March) but no release news as yet...???????
Just chatted with them on support, the rep still says first quarter. Then they said there's still 3 weeks left so it will be out "very soon"..
That thread title made me excited for a second
Especially after seeing the changelog for the Razer theme app saying 'support for android O"
I was contacted by Razer late last week based on some issues i was having regarding the Netflix app still crashing my phone at a very high % and they where talking about waiting for the next big update. They didnt give the impression we would be waiting long but then also didnt give a timescale.
Already talk that we would be getting Android O 8.1 as a version and some talk about Android P as my understanding is theres some fetaures in P that will make it easier for non Google branded phones to update easier. So hopefully the phone gets quicker system updates and my majour concern is that it gets quicker secuirty updates.
Also as mentioned above by Roxas the Offical Razer Theme App got a recent update to support Android O
Yes. I also have seen evidence that android 8.1 is the actual update not 8.0 so win win for us ?
I'd prefer P but can't be too fussy as it's still in development
P just had it's first beta release afaik. Correct me if I'm wrong. Won't come out until fall this year.
Yeah your right P is still way in beta I just want it on the phone when it does come out. I hope it doesn't stop at Oreo
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Here I am sitting and waiting in anticipation for my Desire to arrive, a question poped in to my mind.
Any idea when the next Android OS upgrade is due?
Also I know the phone is only just been released, but how often does HTC release updated for the ROM?
Android 2.1 has just been released in January along with the N1 .. no idea as when they plan to upgrade on that.
As for HTC updates, I've noticed they usually release ROM updates for their phones addressing problems and sometimes little improvements. And that might not be long from now.
I wouldn't count on the Desire getting a major OS upgrade anytime soon or ever though! Especially with the more powerful CPU/Graphics hardware coming out this year that might be required, plus their history with upgrades in previous phones.
Thank God we have xda brilliant developers.
here's the source link http://www.neowin.net/news/exclusive-windows-phone-7-update-not-due-until-march-8
nooooooooooooooooooooo.......
i was really waiting for this D:
As long as it's in first quarter I'm happy...
Sad news indeed. But at least it's still coming and as long as there are no major hiccups I'd rather wait for a quality update.
But I have a feeling this last minute change could severely screw up Microsoft's plans for MWC. I was expecting MS to tout how the first update was being pushed out to WP7 owners across the world at that moment and then would proceed to tease the next OS update. Now if they show off the second OS update without even releasing the first OS update, they'll look like a laughing stock and be criticized for being too slow.
This is not good news at all. But at least MWC is almost guaranteeing new hardware so it's not a complete loss.
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Are these the same multiple sources everywhere on the web who were reporting Feb. 7. Tomorrow this will be all over the web & stated as fact just because someone heard it from someone else, who heard it from the janitor who works at a major carrier .
If you keep guessing long enough you are bound to be right, or close to it eventually so who knows it could happen.
Whenever it happens really doesn't matter anymore because MS has failed IMO. There is very little talk about WP7, except the Nokia stuff & how long it's taking MS to get this update out. The Nokia stuff is a big deal only if you believe Nokia can shift a big part of their market share to WP7, & I doubt they can.
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Are these the same multiple sources everywhere on the web who were reporting Feb. 7. Tomorrow this will be all over the web & stated as fact just because someone heard it from someone else, who heard it from the janitor who works at a major carrier .
If you keep guessing long enough you are bound to be right, or close to it eventually so who knows it could happen.
Whenever it happens really doesn't matter anymore because MS has failed IMO. There is very little talk about WP7, except the Nokia stuff & how long it's taking MS to get this update out. The Nokia stuff is a big deal only if you believe Nokia can shift a big part of their market share to WP7, & I doubt they can.
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No, real life sources, actually.
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Whenever it happens really doesn't matter anymore because MS has failed IMO.
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Welp, all your credibility flew out the window there.
i sure will postpone n postpone... microsoft style....
How can it not be considered a fail when you start off with positive press & excitement & a few months later it's replaced by data leak questions & when will the first update be released. On top of that as a Samsung Focus owner I can't use a Micro SD card reliably.
All MS had to do is put out a date like March at the beginning & they could have avoided all of it. Even if they said March & ended up delivering it early they would look good, if they delivered in March they would be seen as delivering the update on time.
Easy. You say an ambiguous date like "Early 2011" so it doesn't matter when you release it but early 2011. Things could happen. They haven't announced it, so when they announce it, then you can "*****" at them for being late, until then, Microsoft said all the correct things. No matter what you think about that.
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How can it not be considered a fail when you start off with positive press & excitement & a few months later it's replaced by data leak questions & when will the first update be released. On top of that as a Samsung Focus owner I can't use a Micro SD card reliably.
All MS had to do is put out a date like March at the beginning & they could have avoided all of it. Even if they said March & ended up delivering it early they would look good, if they delivered in March they would be seen as delivering the update on time.
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Im guessing with their crystal balls and a touch of hindsight they could have given date, but in the real world things like that dont happen, to my knowledge there has not been an official press statement saying Feb 7th, so tell me, how have thhey missed a target that doesnt exist?
could that date have been an internal milestone date? who knows huh!
MS hasnt failed, but if it does its because of comments like this, missinformation, bad bias reporting and bigotry by people that didnt understand what it is or in some cases havent even used it for a length of time
I never said MS gave any date I just used the Feb. 7 date as a example of one post or site saying something, & it spreading all over the net. Then in the end it turns out to be false, & now it starts again with this March date which may or may not happen.
Still wish it coming out before that...
Is anyone really that excited about Copy and Paste? The only thing worth the update is the faster load times... and that's a pretty minor thing. Granted, copy and paste would be nice, but are people actually upset about this because they don't have copy and paste? Just seems like a lot of hoopla for nothing.
Thats really dissapointing! Will wait for the NoDo update and Mango for sure..
Microsoft said that THEY WILL keep our devices up to date utleast 5 times per year..
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I never said MS gave any date I just used the Feb. 7 date as a example of one post or site saying something, & it spreading all over the net. Then in the end it turns out to be false, & now it starts again with this March date which may or may not happen.
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Still, saying something as daft as WP7 is a failure is..well, daft.
So you don't mind what the update does as long as you get five of them each year? Better to have it tested properly first, though it is kind of frustrating for them to - hmm - "let us assume" a schedule (with several pointers) and then not stick to it.
thats when HOMEFRONT comes out now my march 8 will be completely awesome
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Still, saying something as daft as WP7 is a failure is..well, daft.
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This thread is about the first update to WP7 coming out in March I never said WP7 is a failure, it's too early to know that. MS failed in its handling of the update IMO so now it won't matter when it's released, it will be seen as a failure. There will be other updates & if MS can add features/fixes in a faster manner then they can recover. You just assumed I meant MS failed with WP7 when I meant they failed with this update.
Im here at work and got me thinking bout the rumoured news bout Google releasing the JB 5.0 sometime this fall or workingnto release Q1 2013. News from AndroidPolice...too lazy to link it.
Im just thinking that these updates are happening way to fast. Some phones are yet to receive their ICS and yet JB is just around the corner. Also, new phones with quad will be released early/late spring..? with ICS and for some they will have to wait for another good amount of time for JB. We know that Samsung etc are never on the dot when releasing updates.
I kinda miss the days of Windows OS when they actually make you wait 2/3yrs for a new OS release. Just kinda makes it worthwhile.
All im saying is, that Google should wait until the supported phones have been updated to ICS and give them time to enjoy it. For others they will have to spend an extra money to buy the latest phone with ICS. Not really fair.
Ok im goin back to working...lol...sorta
Until we start seeing apps that don't work on somewhat new OS's I don't see it as a problem. For the most part, apps being put out now are still compatible with Froyo so why should people on Froyo care? Yes it sucks to get a new phone and not have the newest OS but what do you expect Google to do? With apple releasing yearly releases as well they need to keep up.
Google has been releasing yearly OS updates for a while now. Why the concern all of a sudden? Also, probably not worth getting worked up over unreliable rumors.
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I think one release a year is fair. With all thats evolving in the mobile landscape, an update interval any more than that will risk falling behind the competition.
A yearly update is not just to change things around for the heck of it, but to aim to improve the user experience. If the Android team has good work ready to be released, I don't see why they should hold it back because manufacturers can't get their act together. This is why we have the Nexus phones.
I completely disagree. Google's yearly release cycle means that they are always working on making Android better. Since a new major OS release comes every year, I am guaranteed to have a modern phone with a modern OS every year if I continue buying Nexii.
In my opinion it is certainly a good thing.
I dont agree with this. Wait 2-3 years for new features and fixes while other OS's (iOS and Windows Mobile) continue to have yearly updates? No thank you.
For the majority of people, whatever current Android they are on is more than enough for them. If you want to stay on the bleeding edge, you get a Nexus device.
JB probably will not be as big as an upgrade as it was from GB to Honeycomb or ICS.
How is Fall of 2012 or Q1 of 2013 too fast? It's not even spring yet. ICS was announced and released in November, I think. That is a full year, at least, in between OS changes. I think that 1 year in between OS updates is perfect. Why would you want to be stuck on an old OS when new, better features are always a good thing?
You're pretty much saying that you wouldn't mind still being on Eclair or Froyo right now. I don't know about you, but I think ICS is light years ahead of both of those OS's.
Hardware obsolescence will eventually halt fragmentation on its own. Most consumers roll over their device at the end of a contract anyway, that's just 2 years or 3 in some markets. Anyone that holds on to a phone for over three years either doesn't care about bleeding edge updates, they're happy with an old device anyway, or they've extended their device's life via custom roms. In other words, If it is January 2013 and you're still on Eclair then a) you probably don't know what 'Eclair's is and b) you're not losing any sleep over being excluded from updates.
I don't see a huge problem with the android market being 'fragmented' over 2-3 versions. It's all just optics: Android haters trumpet the fragmented platform while advocates brush it off. It shouldn't halt or slow down progress, and if it does then Google risks stagnation.
Its not that Google is going too fast, its that the other manufacturers are going too slow. 1 OS release a year shouldn't be a crazy schedule.
Am I reading this right - so you think technology advances too fast and wants it to slow down because YOU can't catch up?!
OP, please tell me that you are kidding.
Edit: I'm not flaming but simply shocked by the logic and argument.
Yes please get back to work already, sorry but I don't agree with your opinion, blame the carrier's and manufacturers as well.
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Google has been releasing yearly OS updates for a while now. Why the concern all of a sudden? Also, probably not worth getting worked up over unreliable rumors.
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The problem with these "hard and fast" Android updates is that is accelerates device obsolescence. Of the hundreds of Android handsets out there, only a dozen or two actually get these new OS'.
This isn't a problem you see in iOS devices, but it's certainly an issue with android.
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The problem with these "hard and fast" Android updates is that is accelerates device obsolescence.
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Obsolescence? So which Gingerbread device can't make calls/text/access the market/use apps after ICS is released?
Just because some other devices do things faster/different doesn't make your device obsolete. And please, look up the word 'obsolete' first before tossing it around.
I think I partially understand and agree with OP's point.
It is not the yearly update that causes concerns, but it is the rate that creates so much hardware junk that counts.
For example, Apple's 3GS still can use recent iOS, at least it is upgradable, though you wont enjoy the speed or new features etc, but you still can use your old hardware with new iOS.
For Android, one year later you phone/tablet may already be "NOT ABLE TO UPGRADE TO NEW OS" , ICS, in this case.
Too many Device Spamming there. I think it is not Google's issue, it is , somewhat the Manufacturer's issue.
Because Nexus S still able to upgrade to ICS, Nexus One , sorts of (please correct me if I am wrong!)
But thanks to million android phone manufacturers, they locked down the system and make it proprietary in certain sense. and not upgradable to future OS because they don't know their current "Feature" will or will not be shoot down by Google's future updates.
Im actually coming from the Atrix which had an announcement from Motorola that ICS release would be sometime Q3 but that would depends if there is a delay or not. I decided to put myself into a contract and decided to get the Gnex since it had the latest offering of ICS. The Atrix ICS is still running on beta.
I agree that yearly updates will improve the user experience/fixes but then again we are but a small community here on XDA that are keen into rom/mod our phones. That is even if we have Devs willing to give time and effort in regards to leak updates. If ever we dont then we are sol. Im just thinking more about the general public who has no idea or would careless bout having a modified rom but are just interested in receiving the updates in a timely manner. Also, wat if ur current phone will not be included for any more OS release? the easiest way would be to purchase the latest and up to date phones.
If lets say that my collegues are getting the ICS for their SGS2 this Q2/Q3. Then JB will be released Q4/Q1 2013. The Google phones will be updated by either official or leak. Also i cant find the link but there was a stat released i few weeks ago stating that there are only 1% or 2% of phones that are currently running ICS.
Its frustrating for an average user having to sit next to a person with the latest OS release and wondering when they will get theirs.
For me, since im on ICS i dont care but when i was using my Atrix i had to settle for a mediocre beta ICS. :banghead:
@jiwengang - Thank you! Im glad someone here at least partially gets my point.
...now to get back to doin some real work.
I agree with others in that it's the hardware manufactures that are the problem, not Google.
1 year OS updates are fine. We just don't need 20 damn variations of the same phone from the same manufacture within that same year. The manufactures can't support all the different hardware configurations they are spewing out in a timely manner, so it takes ages to get updates, if you get them at all.
Dang manufactures need to focus more, stop trying to one up each other every 2 weeks. And support what they release more timely.
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Am I reading this right - so you think technology advances too fast and wants it to slow down because YOU can't catch up?!
OP, please tell me that you are kidding.
Edit: I'm not flaming but simply shocked by the logic and argument.
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Not everyone has either the same knowledge or bottomless pocket that they can sport the latest and greatest phones. I still have a friend who I recently just flashed his SE X10 with GB 2.3.5. Though SE mentioned bout an ICS upgrade sometime in the future of who knows when.
Similar to the PC industry. A gamer will build a pc gamer rig with i9/FX with crossfire/sli etc...If you look at it now, the hardware has reached its peak. You can pretty much play any games these software companies throw at you. It is now the software ie: Games, trying to play catch up and entice gamers with more 'extra' dazzling features or effects to maximize ur hardwares potential. Back then, it was the other way around
If u use a console then its a different story.
Yes, it is shocking. Not everything works as smoothly as butter like ICS.
Yearly release / change of Android OS makes really senses to me.
I don't think I can wait for 2-3 years for an update / release.
that's why I got a nexus!
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You are really losing focus as to what Jellybean actually is. All it is is an updated Ice Cream Sandwich. Yes, ICS was a huge jump from Gingerbread, because of the tablet/phone unification so there were major changes with the UI. That probably won't be the case with the next update. But if you remember the jump from froyo to gingerbread that wasn't a big deal huh? Googles cute little names cause too much confusion with consumers that don't understand software updates. 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3...just updates.
So, I know no one knows if and when the V30 will get 8.1 or even Android P at this point. Thought I would start a discussion and poll of what the user base thinks.
Sorry. I wish I would have made the Android P and Oreo a separate poll.
V30 is supposed to be one of the phones that receives the Android P update. Seeing as the US998 hasn't even received Android 8 yet, its anybody's guess.
I suppose we will see Android P, sometime.... in a year or so probably lol
But i doubt we will get 8.1, except from ports. What i read, the G7 runs 8.1.... not sure though on that one.
hello , its today i had for the beta update attaching the screenshot in the post he said update will arrive by the end of November
You understand he has no actual information and is just trying to satisfy you and move on, right?
Good god you sound like a child with how you talked to that person in support chat. People like you are why customer service jobs are irritating.
As I always say, it comes when you're not expecting it. Be patient, none of those support guys know any more than we do about the update
They're just stringing you on with those estimated updates. They really just wanted you off their back because they get hundreds of questions on that daily I'm assuming ?