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enter bootloader mode.
fastboot oem unlock
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Do you have a Retail Desire that you have tried this on?
Yep how could you confirm it works if the retail phone is not available before 2 weeks?
This all seems a bit risky to me. It's pretty obvious that no one has seen a retail Desire on these forums yet. We can't even be sure what colour it is or whether it is branded in any way.
I hope it has been rooted but let's wait for some confirmation first. We don't want any expensive bricks.
If the fastboot oem unlock command is available, then I'm sure it will be similar to the Nexus, where it actually voids your warranty! And, currently the nexus devs have not found a way to re-lock to bootloader.
well, if this is real than I´m thinking about buying the desire,too.. although the samsung galaxy s is really interesting as well
but if I wait for the galaxy S another phone will probably be announced that is even better than the galaxy s and i have to wait again for that one and so on and so on
desire with root access will do i guess!!
marsdroid said:
i will not be held responsible for bricks..
be warned
Download and extract DesireRoot.zip below ..enter bootloader mode..
Then on windows cmd to extracted zip folder and then :
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash boot desireboot.img
reboot
and then you have root. muheh
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thx to ALL who made this happend.
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I will be surprised if this works as it has been stated by many that oem unlock is not present on the stock retail images found on the desire.
Hopfully for those who want a desire, there is an easy means to unlock/root but if the Desire is as locked down as the Nexus (beyond oem unlock) some people are going to have to get creative.
I wonder what HTC's stance on unlocked Desires will be if oem unlock is not present...will they be more strict than with the nexus since you really have to go out of your way? They may not even check to see if it's unlocked if there isn't a built-in means to do so...
curious.
With regards to warranty, you hear a lot that doing this, that or the other will void a warranty. The reality is that the party you hold a contract of sale with has the onus of proving that what you did caused a fault before they can refuse to repair or replace an given item, phones included.
That said, I will not be rooting my Desire until I see that it has been done by quite a lot of people and seems safe(ish)
This site also claims to have found a way to root the HTC Desire
knowyourcell.com/htc/htc-desire/desire-guides/443113/how_to_root_the_htc_desire.html
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With regards to warranty, you hear a lot that doing this, that or the other will void a warranty. The reality is that the party you hold a contract of sale with has the onus of proving that what you did caused a fault before they can refuse to repair or replace an given item, phones included.
That said, I will not be rooting my Desire until I see that it has been done by quite a lot of people and seems safe(ish)
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While that is very true, if you are without your phone for an extended period of time while you explain to HTC that they have to warranty your device because of obvious hardware problems, things may not be all happy-go-lucky. Most don't have a spare phone sitting about in case their primary goes tits up.
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This site also claims to have found a way to root the HTC Desire
knowyourcell.com/htc/htc-desire/desire-guides/443113/how_to_root_the_htc_desire.html
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That site actually forgot to remove all the Nexus One labeling before publishing the article. It was posted somewhere else (I believe in the nexus one forums) before they edited the article to say "Desire".
keep an eye on that page and see how fast it vanishes if/when oem unlock is not present
I've wrote the how-to in Italian
http://www.tuttoandroid.net/android/guida-permessi-di-root-su-htc-desire-5085/
who`s first ?
Have any DEVs looked at this file ?? can anyone say its legit ..??
there seems to be a few of us who will be eager to try tommorow, but who will root first ?
Im not going to let anything like this come near my phone till I know the stuff works...
I do want to root it so i can save to SD and so on but not at the risk of some very questionable software.
So... Has anyone had the nerve yet to root the desire yet?
I suspect there are a couple of devs on the case at the moment...
G
N1 owners want the final ROM
Anyone tried yet ?
Yeah ive tried it, no luck im afraid
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Yeah ive tried it, no luck im afraid
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Sometimes it sucks being right :/ Sorry!
This just means some devs are going to have to great quite creative
only had the phone 2days now , and i want root.... i`ve been using my rooted g1 for 16mnths and miss the whole changing roms already !!... hope somebody picks this up quick
anyone brave enough to try this method ??
http://www.knowyourcell.com/htc/htc-desire/desire-guides/443113/how_to_root_the_htc_desire.html
Not sure if this is the correct forum, but wondered what everyone thinks HTC are doing regarding the Unlocking of the HTC One X using HTCDev.com.
To me, on one hand its great that they are providing this service but on the other the downsides (warranty void & no updates) goes against the whole "Our phones are for Developers/Power Users".
On top of that, even when unlocking the phones using their service, there is no "easy way" to root the phones (without flashing a new/custom rom) and the inability to S-Off further goes against the whole mentality.
Either I really don't understand what HTC are trying to achieve? The cynic in me thinks this is just a "buy our phone its great for developers/power users" without actually giving away what we REALLY want.
IMHO, unlocking through HTCDev.com should unlock the bootloader, give S-Off and all that lovely stuff. I understand why they would void the warranty (bar any hardware faults of course!) but if I paid for the tech, I do feel I should be able to do what I want with it!
Just my 2 pence.
agento said:
IMHO, unlocking through HTCDev.com should unlock the bootloader, give S-Off and all that lovely stuff. I understand why they would void the warranty (bar any hardware faults of course!) but if I paid for the tech, I do feel I should be able to do what I want with it!
Just my 2 pence.
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I can understand what you mean, and i agree, but from HTCs point of view, they just don't want idiots going and bricking their phone, and then sending to HTC and expect them to fix it for free under warranty, if they didn't state that it may void your warranty, this would 100% happen. And would cost HTC a lot of dough.
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I can understand what you mean, and i agree, but from HTCs point of view, they just don't want idiots going and bricking their phone, and then sending to HTC and expect them to fix it for free under warranty, if they didn't state that it may void your warranty, this would 100% happen. And would cost HTC a lot of dough.
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Absolutely, but anyone wanting to do this should be able to. People wanting to do this on XDA the percentage is high, but in general (ie vast majority of people) will never even know whats possible, let alone want to do it. It does take a certain amount of skill/knowledge to go through the process. If it were as straightforward as a menu option on the phone to S-Off it would be a nightmare for HTC.
Secondly, how is using HTCDev.com to unlock your bootloader THAT DIFFERENT from using HTCDev.com to unlock your bootloader AND get S-OFF? They still track your Device ID for warrantly issues (not a problem for me, not sure about others) so wether you screw up your phone using one or the other, its still not at an expense to HTC?
S-OFF allows you to alter the baseband and settings. You can do things you're not legally allowed to do in most countries and you can near enough permanently brick your phone. It isn't too surprising that htcdev doesn't give you full unlocked S-OFF.
It would be nice if htcdev didn't affect your warranty and gave you S-OFF but I can understand why they don't do it. The existing htcdev unlock gives you most of what a developer or user would want.
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Absolutely, but anyone wanting to do this should be able to. People wanting to do this on XDA the percentage is high, but in general (ie vast majority of people) will never even know whats possible, let alone want to do it.
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Just take a look at the amount of threads with the same questions concerning flashing/root/unlocking in the General and Q&A forum and you'll see that what you just said is actually very far from reality
With that said, if HTC didn't provide HTCDev, we would still be figuring ways to crack the thing right here, and nobody would be working on ROMs as they are now~
It's like HTC wants to be the "cool" dev-friendly phone builder, but are scared of the financial repercussions of millions of customers bricking their phones. It ends up being half-assed.
Yeah, they give us HTCdev.com, but why not just ship the phone with the bootloader unlocked? The people who will never hear about htcdev.com won't be doing anything with their phones that concerns the bootloader, anyway.
Why is rooting HTC devices so scary? Both my SGS1 and SGS2 were rooted in about 10 minutes with no skipped heartbeats or hours of waiting for a battery to charge with no indication that it's done charging!
Rooting this thing was terrifying. Maybe because it's been a LONG time since I paid completely out of pocket for an unlocked international device. All my other phones after the G1 were carrier variants and I was covered by insurance if anything happened.
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The people who will never hear about htcdev.com won't be doing anything with their phones that concerns the bootloader, anyway.
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Like the majority of smartphone users, they do not care to read up nor care about the differences of S-Off/unlocked bootloader/root.
Just ask any iPhone user who has a jailbroken device. Why do they do it? To pirate games mostly. People will do things just cos it's there, even when there's nothing that they actually want.
Other HTC devices had their bootloaders hacked and unlocked, S-Off'd and rooted without HTC's help. Give it a little time, and HTCDev will just be an afterthought for most of us here.
Personally, I'm just waiting for unofficial way to unlock bootloader and S-Off so HTC does not have a record of me doing it through HTCDev, hence voiding my warranty
Hey guys,
Just got my One and I love it, but I was hoping for an AOSP release. Due to some hurdles regarding keeping my unlimited data (long story short, my university has a corporate contract with Verizon that lets me keep unlimited data and get new phones, so I pay them) I missed the day 1 release.
I know we don't have an unlocked bootloader or S-Off, and while I know my way around a command line, I'm far from the talent that will eventually crack the bootloader open.
So my question is, why does Verizon lock the phone in the first place? There's a number of people in these forums who keep saying "Verizon sucks, I'm leaving" over the issue, and while I know XDA Users are >5% of the total ownership, how does Verizon benefit from keeping us out of our phones? We had the day 0 unlock, so it's not like HTC is against it.
Thoughts? I'm curious as to know the motivation behind hindering open development.
This has always concerned me as well. I know tethering is probably a big deal, as well as removing bloat, but besides that I think they just want to be in control over the software. Part of this makes sense but pushing software updates that can brick an already rooted device is a little overkill.
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Hey guys,
Just got my One and I love it, but I was hoping for an AOSP release. Due to some hurdles regarding keeping my unlimited data (long story short, my university has a corporate contract with Verizon that lets me keep unlimited data and get new phones, so I pay them) I missed the day 1 release.
I know we don't have an unlocked bootloader or S-Off, and while I know my way around a command line, I'm far from the talent that will eventually crack the bootloader open.
So my question is, why does Verizon lock the phone in the first place? There's a number of people in these forums who keep saying "Verizon sucks, I'm leaving" over the issue, and while I know XDA Users are >5% of the total ownership, how does Verizon benefit from keeping us out of our phones? We had the day 0 unlock, so it's not like HTC is against it.
Thoughts? I'm curious as to know the motivation behind hindering open development.
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Well one simple answer is for warranty issue purposes... You have quiet a few people who don't know what they are doing when unlocking their devices whether it be s-off or just unlock in general and can have a bad flash depending on the process rendering the phone unusable (aka bricked) at that point the users first thought is "well I'm just going to go to Verizon and tell them my phone is borked and get a free one" .....
It's a terrible thing to do because you are basically stealing from the company that is providing you for your own error/negligence.
Another for a lot of users is free tethering apps that require root privileges where as Verizon wants you to use their own tethering app where they can monitor the use and charge you for the data usage as well..
Their is a number of different reasons they do it and it's all BS because quite frankly we are paying good money for these things and should have every right to do what we please with them!
piratekingdan said:
Hey guys,
Just got my One and I love it, but I was hoping for an AOSP release. Due to some hurdles regarding keeping my unlimited data (long story short, my university has a corporate contract with Verizon that lets me keep unlimited data and get new phones, so I pay them) I missed the day 1 release.
I know we don't have an unlocked bootloader or S-Off, and while I know my way around a command line, I'm far from the talent that will eventually crack the bootloader open.
So my question is, why does Verizon lock the phone in the first place? There's a number of people in these forums who keep saying "Verizon sucks, I'm leaving" over the issue, and while I know XDA Users are >5% of the total ownership, how does Verizon benefit from keeping us out of our phones? We had the day 0 unlock, so it's not like HTC is against it.
Thoughts? I'm curious as to know the motivation behind hindering open development.
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It cuts down on warranty fraud, service frauds (wifi tether etc), and potential network abuses.
Locked bootlaoders/secure phones are also a must for the business class customer, which they cater to
Murrda said:
Well one simple answer is for warranty issue purposes... You have quiet a few people who don't know what they are doing when unlocking their devices whether it be s-off or just unlock in general and can have a bad flash depending on the process rendering the phone unusable (aka bricked) at that point the users first thought is "well I'm just going to go to Verizon and tell them my phone is borked and get a free one" .....
It's a terrible thing to do because you are basically stealing from the company that is providing you for your own error/negligence.
Another for a lot of users is free tethering apps that require root privileges where as Verizon wants you to use their own tethering app where they can monitor the use and charge you for the data usage as well..
Their is a number of different reasons they do it and it's all BS because quite frankly we are paying good money for these things and should have every right to do what we please with them!
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This is also what I believe the reason is as well.
I like talking about rooting/modding on social media with other involved Android users. But there's also the people that have an Android and see us talking about the benefits then asking if we can root their phone for them. My usual reply is that if you can't figure out how to do it yourself, you shouldn't be messing with your phone's file system.
Many of these people are the kind that would try to exploit the warranty if they screwed up their own phone. I personally know a few that have tried and failed rooting their phone but got a replacement from VZW.
Every device they have to give out due to failed rooting is a device they could have made $200+contract on.
I mean realistically if you think about it HTC basically gave us the go ahead with htcdev it's Verizon that is being the pain in the you know what. If they really wanted to be tool bags then let us do what we please as using the htcdev site we are already agreeing that we understand the consequences of agreeing to unlocking the device and for those that decide to do so should not be granted support for our device if anything goes wrong... That's how I feel!
It would be kind of nice if we could sign something with Verizon basically waiving any right to any kind of warranty replacement if they would allow is to unlock. I'd sign it. I'm always careful about what I flash so I would happily agree. I never thought about the tethering thing though.
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I agree with the last two posts. We already agreed to void our warranty by using htcdev in the first place. I can halfway understand the tethering. They already keep track of the data we use. I pay for 4 gigs, I should be able to use it via tethering if I want to.
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For one, they want you to fall prey to the pre-installed bloat. But also because it costs them money if you have to keep using their customer service resources to figure out problems concerning your phone that it was never meant to do in the first place. They don't want to pay someone to be on the phone with a guy who hacked his device into oblivion unnecessarily. The costs of warranties is in addition to that. It does make business sense, as much as it irks the rest of us. And boy does it irk us... I planned to debloat my device the hour I got it but missed the HTCDev window by 12 hours thanks to a f**k up at my local retail store.
corporate customers, id believe
Lykarsis said:
It would be kind of nice if we could sign something with Verizon basically waiving any right to any kind of warranty replacement if they would allow is to unlock. I'd sign it. I'm always careful about what I flash so I would happily agree. I never thought about the tethering thing though.
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This is basically what the HTCDev.com unlock entailed. You agree to voiding your warranty upon unlocking the device. I'm totally cool with this and it's why I proceed with caution and carry insurance.
As far as tethering and security, these concerns exist with devices that are solely rooted and it seems root exploits are frequently found in even the most "secure" devices. Do locked bootloaders stand in the way of root? From what I've seen the answer seems to be no. That said, how does locking the bootloader make the phone that much more "secure" for the corporate clientele?
mlin said:
This is basically what the HTCDev.com unlock entailed. You agree to voiding your warranty upon unlocking the device. I'm totally cool with this and it's why I proceed with caution and carry insurance.
As far as tethering and security, these concerns exist with devices that are solely rooted and it seems root exploits are frequently found in even the most "secure" devices. Do locked bootloaders stand in the way of root? From what I've seen the answer seems to be no. That said, how does locking the bootloader make the phone that much more "secure" for the corporate clientele?
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Actually on HTC's, locked bootloader does prevent root exploits (not the exploit themselves, but maintaining root after the initial attack on the device) by having write protection as well as a write lock on the device from the bootloader as well (write protection is from the kernel)
mlin said:
This is basically what the HTCDev.com unlock entailed. You agree to voiding your warranty upon unlocking the device. I'm totally cool with this and it's why I proceed with caution and carry insurance.
As far as tethering and security, these concerns exist with devices that are solely rooted and it seems root exploits are frequently found in even the most "secure" devices. Do locked bootloaders stand in the way of root? From what I've seen the answer seems to be no. That said, how does locking the bootloader make the phone that much more "secure" for the corporate clientele?
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Well, in the case of most HTC devices, and unlocked bootloader does stand in the way of permanent root. Nothing you change holds through a reboot. I don't know for sure if it stop you from tethering.
It doesn't stop you from tethering, just makes it a bit harder. FoxFi is a good example, I'm locked yet foxfi still allows me to tether and set up a hotspot. I think PDAnet also works for USB tethering but not totally sure on that one.
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Indirect said:
Actually on HTC's, locked bootloader does prevent root exploits (not the exploit themselves, but maintaining root after the initial attack on the device) by having write protection as well as a write lock on the device from the bootloader as well (write protection is from the kernel)
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Lykarsis said:
Well, in the case of most HTC devices, and unlocked bootloader does stand in the way of permanent root. Nothing you change holds through a reboot. I don't know for sure if it stop you from tethering.
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Ah, good to know. Thanks, I didn't realize this though now that you mention it, it does remind me of the EVO3D days when we were having trouble maintaining root through a reboot.
Its all tethering or hotspot you can cancell your home internet and just use lte
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It doesn't stop you from tethering, just makes it a bit harder. FoxFi is a good example, I'm locked yet foxfi still allows me to tether and set up a hotspot. I think PDAnet also works for USB tethering but not totally sure on that one.
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So foxfi does work? Pay app or free? Only reason I want to root unlock is for this my note 2 is rooted unlocked. So I can use that for my flash addiction
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Its all tethering or hotspot you can cancell your home internet and just use lte
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So foxfi does work? Pay app or free? Only reason I want to root unlock is for this my note 2 is rooted unlocked. So I can use that for my flash addiction
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maybe if your home internet consists of one device, but LTE is too variable to be a viable home internet solution for me. I'll keep my cable 50 connection (hopefully upping to 100 in the next year).
as far as the tethering goes I"m not so certain that's the issue if you think about it AT&T and Verizon offer free tethering via their carrier apps so no point in making that an issue also to add to that you are given a set limit on how much data you use (I.E 2GB,4GB,6GB, & Etc) not like in Sprint's case where they offer you "Unlimited Data" (Albeit at a slower speed) still gives you the opportunity to abuse it. So as i see it they are two different cases so it shouldn't make a difference whether you use their app or a third party app.and going with what every one else has stated if we are going thru the TRUE manufacturer of the phone and they are allowing us a viable option to get what we seek with their disclaimers included then why block us out from getting what we require and what we paid for ?
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as far as the tethering goes I"m not so certain that's the issue if you think about it AT&T and Verizon offer free tethering via their carrier apps so no point in making that an issue also to add to that you are given a set limit on how much data you use (I.E 2GB,4GB,6GB, & Etc) not like in Sprint's case where they offer you "Unlimited Data" (Albeit at a slower speed) still gives you the opportunity to abuse it. So as i see it they are two different cases so it shouldn't make a difference whether you use their app or a third party app.and going with what every one else has stated if we are going thru the TRUE manufacturer of the phone and they are allowing us a viable option to get what we seek with their disclaimers included then why block us out from getting what we require and what we paid for ?
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what are you talking about? He has unlimited data as do alot of us. Verizon required those on unlimited data to pay 30 a month for tethering.
It's all to force you to pay more.
They killed the FM radio so that you have to use more data and run over your cap (if you're in that sad lot with limited data). And they block bootleg hotspots so that you have to pay for that too. Etc, etc.
If we can root, we can have devices that are as good and cheap to use as the ones on the other carriers, and that's not allowed.
Hey there, currently I am using Roger's Samsung Galaxy S3, I747M. I was using the stock 4.1.1 for a long time and then I rooted my device. Sometime after, I grew bored of 4.1.1 and upgraded to the new 4.3. I currently have Clockwork Recovery installed, though I don't remember which version (If it's relevant, I will get it). That being said, from what I remember, I got a stock version of 4.3 from SamsMobile or something like that. BUT, when I go to Settings > About > Software Update > Update, I get a message saying "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available". Whether or not that means I have a proper stock ROM or not, I don't know. I'm fairly new at this.
All that being said, I'm looking to unlock my device so that I can use either a T-Mobile SIM while visiting the USA or a Wind SIM. Both companies have significantly better cellphone plans with USA Roaming.
That being said, Rogers charges $50 for a unlock. I've found numerous website that also unlock the phone for an average of $20 to $35. There's a local Kiosk in the mall near my house which also does it for $30 or $35 (I forget which). After extensive Google and XDA searching, I've also found a few different methods, though I don't know their effectiveness.
The first and most obvious one is the disabling of the SHA256. Referring to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2176719
From what I understand, I'm not able to do this unless I downgrade my Android from 4.3 to 4.0.1 or 4.1.1 . I really don't want to do this as I really like 4.3 . Also, I'm not sure if I'm able to as I am aware that upgrading to 4.3 might have changed my bootloader type, preventing me from downgrading. How to check that, I don't know.
I've also found a tool that can unlock your device for you, though the original thread has been locked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/17-02-2013-samsung-network-sim-unlock-t1731931
That being said, I've found a wordpress that contains the newer version of the unlocker tool, but whether or not it works and is safe, I haven't the slightest. Having tried downloading the tool, you need a login which comes from a text file, which you have to like something on Facebook for, etc. I did that but the password text wouldn't send so I wasn't able to try. Here's the site:
http://samsungnetworksimunlock.wordpress.com/
Myriad of unlock sites; which are good/trustworthy? I have no idea:
http://samsung-updates.com/
http://www.unlockediphone.me/
http://www.unlockyourphone.me/
http://www.unlocksamsungonline.com/
There are tons more that I've seen and been to that I haven't listed. Don't know which to use, if any.
SO, what it comes down to. What should I do to unlock my device? What is the best method? I would like to do it for free if possible obviously but I'm not sure how to go about it. Has anyone tried any of the above methods with success? Baring in mind my 4.3 circumstances and that I live in Canada on Rogers. Thoughts? Suggestions? Questions?
TL;DR - Need to unlock my phone, there's some complications. Unfortunately i can't condense the whole story, what do?
Isuress said:
Hey there, currently I am using Roger's Samsung Galaxy S3, I747M. I was using the stock 4.1.1 for a long time and then I rooted my device. Sometime after, I grew bored of 4.1.1 and upgraded to the new 4.3. I currently have Clockwork Recovery installed, though I don't remember which version (If it's relevant, I will get it). That being said, from what I remember, I got a stock version of 4.3 from SamsMobile or something like that. BUT, when I go to Settings > About > Software Update > Update, I get a message saying "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available". Whether or not that means I have a proper stock ROM or not, I don't know. I'm fairly new at this.
All that being said, I'm looking to unlock my device so that I can use either a T-Mobile SIM while visiting the USA or a Wind SIM. Both companies have significantly better cellphone plans with USA Roaming.
That being said, Rogers charges $50 for a unlock. I've found numerous website that also unlock the phone for an average of $20 to $35. There's a local Kiosk in the mall near my house which also does it for $30 or $35 (I forget which). After extensive Google and XDA searching, I've also found a few different methods, though I don't know their effectiveness.
The first and most obvious one is the disabling of the SHA256. Referring to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2176719
From what I understand, I'm not able to do this unless I downgrade my Android from 4.3 to 4.0.1 or 4.1.1 . I really don't want to do this as I really like 4.3 . Also, I'm not sure if I'm able to as I am aware that upgrading to 4.3 might have changed my bootloader type, preventing me from downgrading. How to check that, I don't know.
I've also found a tool that can unlock your device for you, though the original thread has been locked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/17-02-2013-samsung-network-sim-unlock-t1731931
That being said, I've found a wordpress that contains the newer version of the unlocker tool, but whether or not it works and is safe, I haven't the slightest. Having tried downloading the tool, you need a login which comes from a text file, which you have to like something on Facebook for, etc. I did that but the password text wouldn't send so I wasn't able to try. Here's the site:
http://samsungnetworksimunlock.wordpress.com/
Myriad of unlock sites; which are good/trustworthy? I have no idea:
http://samsung-updates.com/
http://www.unlockediphone.me/
http://www.unlockyourphone.me/
http://www.unlocksamsungonline.com/
There are tons more that I've seen and been to that I haven't listed. Don't know which to use, if any.
SO, what it comes down to. What should I do to unlock my device? What is the best method? I would like to do it for free if possible obviously but I'm not sure how to go about it. Has anyone tried any of the above methods with success? Baring in mind my 4.3 circumstances and that I live in Canada on Rogers. Thoughts? Suggestions? Questions?
TL;DR - Need to unlock my phone, there's some complications. Unfortunately i can't condense the whole story, what do?
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my 2 cents, the 2 links for unlock tools (not unlock websites in which you gotta pay) are useless... first one is for international, second is fake since it require surveys
and I've never used any unlock sites to buy unlock keys so I can't tell you
though back to my question, if you were on 4.1.1, why didn't you unlock it then before you update to 4.3..
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my 2 cents, the 2 links for unlock tools (not unlock websites in which you gotta pay) are useless... first one is for international, second is fake since it require surveys
and I've never used any unlock sites to buy unlock keys so I can't tell you
though back to my question, if you were on 4.1.1, why didn't you unlock it then before you update to 4.3..
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Hey there! I think the tools might actually work if I don't find some weird survey version. for example, the unlocker on the SamsungUpdat site is actually one of the earlier release versions that did jellybean. I'd need to find testimonials for that though before I decide to drop a 3 euro donation. And to answer your other question, at the time I wasn't aware I was ever going to be interested in unlocking my phone. Let alone spending this much time to figure it out. That being said, say I did know I'd want to unlock in the future, I still wasn't aware that if I updated I would be able to keep the phone unlocked. As in, keeping the unlock through the update. I only just found out that the unlock involved another partition of the phone other than the one the OS takes place on. So, if I do manage to downgrade, if I were to unlock and the update back to 4.3 it would keep the unlock?
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Hey there! I think the tools might actually work if I don't find some weird survey version. for example, the unlocker on the SamsungUpdat site is actually one of the earlier release versions that did jellybean. I'd need to find testimonials for that though before I decide to drop a 3 euro donation. And to answer your other question, at the time I wasn't aware I was ever going to be interested in unlocking my phone. Let alone spending this much time to figure it out. That being said, say I did know I'd want to unlock in the future, I still wasn't aware that if I updated I would be able to keep the phone unlocked. As in, keeping the unlock through the update. I only just found out that the unlock involved another partition of the phone other than the one the OS takes place on. So, if I do manage to downgrade, if I were to unlock and the update back to 4.3 it would keep the unlock?
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Once you're unlock, it'll stay unlock but if your bootloader is mjb, as of now, there's no possible downgrade yet
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Once you're unlock, it'll stay unlock but if your bootloader is mjb, as of now, there's no possible downgrade yet
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How do I go about checking what version my bootloader is? Also, if I do end up downgrading, which method is the best for unlocking?
It's in setting->about phone under baseband version
And there's a free unlock method which had been floating around but it required stock 4.1.1 in order to do it
and again if your bootloader is MJB (most likely be the case), I'd advice you not to be foolish and downgrade cuz it'd brick your phone
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It's in setting->about phone under baseband version
And there's a free unlock method which has been floating around but it requires stock 4.1.1 in order to do it
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If you're referring to this:
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The first and most obvious one is the disabling of the SHA256. Referring to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2176719
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I already mentioned that in the original post. That looks to me like a software related unlocked which I would feel would get reset when I upgrade back to 4.3. Is this not true? That being said, what exactly does disabling SHA256 do? From what I understand, it's actually an encryption algorithm. Is my data no longer encrypted once turning this feature off?
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If you're referring to this:
I already mentioned that in the original post. That looks to me like a software related unlocked which I would feel would get reset when I upgrade back to 4.3. Is this not true? That being said, what exactly does disabling SHA256 do? From what I understand, it's actually an encryption algorithm. Is my data no longer encrypted once turning this feature off?
Here's my About. Not sure what I'm looking for.
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I'm sorry, I forgot your phone is i747M not i747
but in any case MK4 is the same as MJB
if you want free unlock, you have to wait for someone to find a way to remove KNOX so that you can downgrade to 4.1.1 for free unlock
although if you're looking for a way to downgrade the rom to 4.1.1 there is a way, but the bootloader still stay as 4.3 and with the 4.3 bootloader, you won't be able to do the free unlocking method
and to answer your question, no it's not. and I do not know what disabling SHA256 do as I've never used such software to help me unlock, also the link you posted gave me a 404 error
this might be a good read for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2625461
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I'm sorry, I forgot your phone is i747M not i747
but in any case MK4 is the same as MJB
if you want free unlock, you have to wait for someone to find a way to remove KNOX so that you can downgrade to 4.1.1 for free unlock
although if you're looking for a way to downgrade the rom to 4.1.1 there is a way, but the bootloader still stay as 4.3 and with the 4.3 bootloader, you won't be able to do the free unlocking method
and to answer your question, no it's not. and I do not know what disabling SHA256 do as I've never used such software to help me unlock, also the link you posted gave me a 404 error
this might be a good read for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2625461
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If we're still taking about the "SHA256[OFF]" method, I'm not sure if I feel comfortable doing that one. I also feel like once I downgrade, disable SHA256 and then go back to 4.3, that those settings will not carry over. Are there really no other methods?
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If we're still taking about the "SHA256[OFF]" method, I'm not sure if I feel comfortable doing that one. I also feel like once I downgrade, disable SHA256 and then go back to 4.3, that those settings will not carry over. Are there really no other methods?
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and no as long as KNOX is present
the only current working unlock is sadly to say, you have to pay for unlock code and the prices are varies
and as for that, I won't be of help because as I mentioned, I've never pay for any unlock code so I have no say in what will work and what not
Sorry.
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and no as long as KNOX is present
the only current working unlock is sadly to say, you have to pay for unlock code and the prices are varies
and as for that, I won't be of help because as I mentioned, I've never pay for any unlock code so I have no say in what will work and what not
Sorry.
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I'm assuming KNOX is that little triangle notification thing that shows up on certain pages that says how many times you've messed with your device? I wasn't aware this little counter was a determent to anything?
Well, thanks anyway I suppose. Hopefully more people will start looking at the thread. Unfortunately it seems like this board moves slowly. I'm afraid of paying for an unlock for the most part. I'd need someone with unlocking experience to give me some feedback before anything.
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I'm assuming KNOX is that little triangle notification thing that shows up on certain pages that says how many times you've messed with your device? I wasn't aware this little counter was a determent to anything?
Well, thanks anyway I suppose. Hopefully more people will start looking at the thread. Unfortunately it seems like this board moves slowly. I'm afraid of paying for an unlock for the most part. I'd need someone with unlocking experience to give me some feedback before anything.
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I'm assuming so myself, I know what knox is but have never actually experience it.. my bootloader is still MJ2 which is the leaked version 4.3 that doesn't come with knox
and with that being said, don't get your hope up, because there hasn't any success in downgrading from 4.3 bootloader without bricking your phone
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I'm assuming so myself, I know what knox is but have never actually experience it.. my bootloader is still MJ2 which is the leaked version 4.3 that doesn't come with knox
and with that being said, don't get your hope up, because there hasn't any success in downgrading from 4.3 bootloader without bricking your phone
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From what I've read, it's near to impossible to fully brick your Samsung Galaxy S3 phone? I've seen a bunch of threads regarding unbricking it regardless of situation. Here's an example:
http://smartphonerepairsdiy.weebly....r-unbrick-samsung-galaxy-s3-all-versions.html
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From what I've read, it's near to impossible to fully brick your Samsung Galaxy S3 phone? I've seen a bunch of threads regarding unbricking it regardless of situation. Here's an example:
http://smartphonerepairsdiy.weebly....r-unbrick-samsung-galaxy-s3-all-versions.html
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that might be true, but i'm sure you don't want to risk it, because whether it's soft brick or hard brick, it's still a pain to fix it
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that might be true, but i'm sure you don't want to risk it, because whether it's soft brick or hard brick, it's still a pain to fix it
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Agreed. I just wish the form was more active.
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I'm assuming KNOX is that little triangle notification thing that shows up on certain pages that says how many times you've messed with your device? I wasn't aware this little counter was a determent to anything?
Well, thanks anyway I suppose. Hopefully more people will start looking at the thread. Unfortunately it seems like this board moves slowly. I'm afraid of paying for an unlock for the most part. I'd need someone with unlocking experience to give me some feedback before anything.
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Knox is really a security system designed mostly with enterprise systems in mind. The problems with free unlocking your phone goes beyond Knox and really underscores the ongoing cycle of 'catch-up' games between Ol' Sam and the development community. The unlock exploit was first discovered in Android 4.1.1. Then Sam tried to close the exploit by removing it in JB 4.1.2. No problem. We simply went round by downgrading to 4.1.1, utilizing the exploit then upgraded back to 4.1.2. Now Sam went further by closing the downgrade loophole. It would appear the unlock exploit is really in the 4.1.1 radio. By linking the 4.3JB modem tightly to the bootloader and making the latter so secure as to be non-modifiable, the exploit appears closed - at least, for now. Please don't risk bricking your phone by trying any methods that may not work. The only sure thing for now is to get unlock code from the carrier or purchase one online.
If you are looking for a reliable service, you can try maingsmserver.com. I am not making any endorsements but I have used them several times with success each time.
Larry2999 said:
Knox is really a security system designed mostly with enterprise systems in mind. The problems with free unlocking your phone goes beyond Knox and really underscores the ongoing cycle of 'catch-up' games between Ol' Sam and the development community. The unlock exploit was first discovered in Android 4.1.1. Then Sam tried to close the exploit by removing it in JB 4.1.2. No problem. We simply went round by downgrading to 4.1.1, utilizing the exploit then upgraded back to 4.1.2. Now Sam went further by closing the downgrade loophole. It would appear the unlock exploit is really in the 4.1.1 radio. By linking the 4.3JB modem tightly to the bootloader and making the latter so secure as to be non-modifiable, the exploit appears closed - at least, for now. Please don't risk bricking your phone by trying any methods that may not work. The only sure thing for now is to get unlock code from the carrier or purchase one online.
If you are looking for a reliable service, you can try maingsmserver.com. I am not making any endorsements but I have used them several times with success each time.
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This clears up a lot of my curiosity on how the whole process works. I'm still curious as to what disabling SHA256 does. I'm aware it's a form of encryption but does that mean afterwards, my dad is all transferred and synced unencrypted?
Yeah, at this point, I might just have to go with getting a code somewhere but it really comes down to where. I just want something cheap. Less than $20. I'd part with $15 or something from a website. I'd love to go with my carrier but unfortunately Rogers is charging $50 for that. I was on the phone with a rep for a good hour discussing the possibility of it getting waived and all that business. She was very kind and offered other things but she was unable to waive the fee unfortunately. Even after talking with 3 different departments and her supervisor, lol.
There's a Kiosk in my local mall that does it for $30 but that's $10 more than I want to spend, haha. The site you linked is somewhat confusing and from what I'm seeing, it might be a bit too expensive? Also, I think the prices are in USD, not CAD so they'd be more probably.
Out of curiosity, do you know, or anyone reading this thread, know the process these companies, Kiosks or Carriers go through to obtain the unlock code? Is it a program? Do they call someone? The manufacturer maybe? I'd definitely work around this process if I knew how. I'm very interested in how the whole thing works.
Isuress said:
If we're still taking about the "SHA256[OFF]" method, I'm not sure if I feel comfortable doing that one. I also feel like once I downgrade, disable SHA256 and then go back to 4.3, that those settings will not carry over. Are there really no other methods?
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Once you unlock, it stays unlocked forever. It doesn't matter how you unlock it.
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This clears up a lot of my curiosity on how the whole process works. I'm still curious as to what disabling SHA256 does. I'm aware it's a form of encryption but does that mean afterwards, my dad is all transferred and synced unencrypted?
Yeah, at this point, I might just have to go with getting a code somewhere but it really comes down to where. I just want something cheap. Less than $20. I'd part with $15 or something from a website. I'd love to go with my carrier but unfortunately Rogers is charging $50 for that. I was on the phone with a rep for a good hour discussing the possibility of it getting waived and all that business. She was very kind and offered other things but she was unable to waive the fee unfortunately. Even after talking with 3 different departments and her supervisor, lol.
There's a Kiosk in my local mall that does it for $30 but that's $10 more than I want to spend, haha. The site you linked is somewhat confusing and from what I'm seeing, it might be a bit too expensive? Also, I think the prices are in USD, not CAD so they'd be more probably.
Out of curiosity, do you know, or anyone reading this thread, know the process these companies, Kiosks or Carriers go through to obtain the unlock code? Is it a program? Do they call someone? The manufacturer maybe? I'd definitely work around this process if I knew how. I'm very interested in how the whole thing works.
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I wouldn't worry myself too much about the SHA256 protocol. There's a lot we are still learning about the unlock process. The key thing to understand is that, when the unlock is properly done, it survives all firmware changes and is impossible to reverse. For the commercial online services, it's always one of two options - either they have access to the official database or they've been able to figure out the key algorithm for generating the unlock codes. There is nothing random about how IMEIs are generated and there is always a key relationship between all the different parameters (phone model, carrier, country, unlock code, unfreeze code etc.).
The unlock codes for Samsung Canada on maingsmserver.com costs $28. You could try the Canada networks service which is much less but may not be as sure. From what I've seen around though, you should be wary about anything going for less than $20. Plenty of scams out there.
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Once you unlock, it stays unlocked forever. It doesn't matter how you unlock it.
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Does that mean once you've disabled SHA256, which causes the phone to unlock, when you upgrade back to 4.2 or 4.3 that the unlock is retained AND SHA256 is re-enabled? Or does it just retain the unlock and SHA256 stays disabled? If the first situation is the case, then I might consider going through the hassle of downgrading and then re-upgrading?
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I wouldn't worry myself too much about the SHA256 protocol. There's a lot we are still learning about the unlock process. The key thing to understand is that, when the unlock is properly done, it survives all firmware changes and is impossible to reverse. For the commercial online services, it's always one of two options - either they have access to the official database or they've been able to figure out the key algorithm for generating the unlock codes. There is nothing random about how IMEIs are generated and there is always a key relationship between all the different parameters (phone model, carrier, country, unlock code, unfreeze code etc.).
The unlock codes for Samsung Canada on maingsmserver.com costs $28. You could try the Canada networks service which is much less but may not be as sure. From what I've seen around though, you should be wary about anything going for less than $20. Plenty of scams out there.
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I was under the impression they probably had some sort of Database or something of that caliber. I can't imagine they have some sort of generator because if that was the case, I'm sure something like that would have leaked by now by some employee, no?
For $28, I might as well go to the local Kiosk in my mall and have it done there. If I could find it for $15 or less, then maybe I'd do it online? Though, the SHA256 option is looking more promising. Though, that's assuming SHA256 re-enables itself while retaining unlock once the phones been updated. The idea of having some sort of data encryption disable bothers me for some reason. Unless you can explain how it's really no different than having it on?
Did the firewater method for S-off and it keeps saying " device has been patched by HTC, your out of luck!!!." is there any way to get by this? im new to HTC devices so im a little thrown off
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Did the firewater method for S-off and it keeps saying " device has been patched by HTC, your out of luck!!!." is there any way to get by this? im new to HTC devices so im a little thrown off
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I believe htc patched the last update, so would need to downgrade but not sure how you can downgrade when s-on.
There is a Bounty thread for a fix. Check my signature.
Someone correct me, cause I'm sure I'm wrong, my idea can't be right because it seems too easy/logical...
If HTC is the one who patched out firewater, wouldn't the next stop on the logic train be to assume that they want you to s-off on the HTCdev site so they can note the warranty voided??
I've been s-off since before this device even hit the market locally, so firewater worked fine...I'm just throwing darts to try and help.
Thoughts?
Exactly, it's not that easy. HTCDev will only let you unlock the bootloader, which is enough for many things, but is not the same as S-OFF. HTC doesn't provide any official way to the public for setting the device to S-OFF.
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Someone correct me, cause I'm sure I'm wrong, my idea can't be right because it seems too easy/logical...
If HTC is the one who patched out firewater, wouldn't the next stop on the logic train be to assume that they want you to s-off on the HTCdev site so they can note the warranty voided??
I've been s-off since before this device even hit the market locally, so firewater worked fine...I'm just throwing darts to try and help.
Thoughts?
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It seems that way, but I don't use logic when it comes to large corporations.
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HTC doesn't provide any official way to the public for setting the device to S-OFF.
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They should though... Why deny it just so that people go with "questionable" means to exploit a system in order to do the things they want to do with the device they paid a crap load of money for.
One would think by now that companies would realise that they'll never be "fully" in front when it comes to "battles" like these, whenever they implement a new security measure, there's already someone out there with the skills to exploit it! If they exploited it by "unofficial" means, then logically they would want to cover their tracks as well leading to a form of fraud i.e hiding flags/banners that show that you did S-OFF and Unlocked, it causes problems for other users if they were to buy a device like that(2nd hand for example) or even if you handed it in as such to HTC and they refurb and resell a device that says it's one thing where in fact it's something entirely different.
Why not grant unlocked bootloader, S-OFF AND Root access on all devices and sell it as is? You can put plenty of security warnings up to warn someone about the potential danger and/or damage they can cause if they don't use it properly.
Software related issues and/or bricks can be covered seperately with warranty(perhaps a small increase in price to cover it, if it's software related, HTC can fix it easy), hardware problems on the other hand won't necessarily come about because some wanna be couldn't read a ROM installation thread properly.
It's silly if you ask me. You should be able to buy the device with the ability to have an unlocked bootloader, root access and S-OFF, out of the box! You should then be well aware that IF something happens as a result of your own negligence that you'll have to pay a bit more to get it fixed, period. There should be a warning and agreement, if you agree to those terms then you can't cry to anyone if you mess up.
But that's my opinion though.
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It's silly if you ask me. You should be able to buy the device with the ability to have an unlocked bootloader, root access and S-OFF, out of the box! You should then be well aware that IF something happens as a result of your own negligence that you'll have to pay a bit more to get it fixed, period. There should be a warning and agreement, if you agree to those terms then you can't cry to anyone if you mess up.
But that's my opinion though.
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I agree with you - in principle. The problem is that you expect users who click that "I agree" button to actually accept responsibility for their actions if they sc*** up. And often they don't.
I have seen it again and again in the Asus Transformer forums. You can download an apk from Asus to unlock the bootloader but that app also phones home and voids your warranty (which is clearly explained in the agreement). Quite a few users who mostly didn't bother to do enough research blamed Asus for providing a tool to unlock the BL, but then refused to support them if they bricked their device. Some sent it in for warranty repair and some actually succeeded - probably because the tech did not pay attention to the unlocked bootloader - basically making Asus pay for a mistake they made. These things happen and people just tend to try to find someone to blame for their own shortcomings.
So I do understand that they make it difficult - and I do agree: They can't win this game... Someone will find a way
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I agree with you - in principle. The problem is that you expect users who click that "I agree" button to actually accept responsibility for their actions if they sc*** up. And often they don't.
I have seen it again and again in the Asus Transformer forums. You can download an apk from Asus to unlock the bootloader but that app also phones home and voids your warranty (which is clearly explained in the agreement). Quite a few users who mostly didn't bother to do enough research blamed Asus for providing a tool to unlock the BL, but then refused to support them if they bricked their device. Some sent it in for warranty repair and some actually succeeded - probably because the tech did not pay attention to the unlocked bootloader - basically making Asus pay for a mistake they made. These things happen and people just tend to try to find someone to blame for the own shortcomings.
So I do understand that they make it difficult - and I do agree: They can't win this game... Someone will find a way
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Agreed. The main issue is the common person not doing research on these things and even IF they do some reading they don't even read properly. Most of the problems they encounter are self-made problems.
Perhaps giving an option in store for those things would be better then, like I said they could even "increase" the price a bit for the warranty/insurance IF you choose to go with an unlocked, rooted and S-OFF'd device...Oh well, pure speculation though, it's not like it'll ever happen.
Oh and you have an awesome name Bernd :good:
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Oh and you have an awesome name Bernd :good:
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I agree! So do you! Also German immigrant? :victory:
berndblb said:
I agree! So do you! Also German immigrant? :victory:
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Yes and no... Parents are Germans and came to South Africa, I was born here.