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Hey guys,
soon I will get a new phone from my contract and did very intense researches which one to get.
I'm still struggeling to make a choice because I read so many different things.
My choices with Pros and Cons from what I heared/read:
1. HTC 10 (my favourite for now):
+ Brilliant display
+ Very good build quality
+ Nice look & feel
+ Software! very pure, what I really like!
- SOT (I read things from like 3 to 6 hours) Seems to vary drastically (I know it depends on usage, but ppl with very similar usage report complete different SOTs)
- HTC. I really like the company but I'm afraid that they don't provide updates for a longer time because of the number of phones they produced
- Screen brightness? (many ppl say it's way too low)
2. Samsung Galaxy S7 edge
+ Look & feel
+ SOT
And here we have my biggest struggle: The display. Many People like AMOLED but I'm worried that if I for example do a holiday trip where I use the display for about 8hours with a navigation software, I will get burn in. whats your experience with burn ins?
Hope you can help me thx!
zantekk said:
Hey guys,
soon I will get a new phone from my contract and did very intense researches which one to get.
I'm still struggeling to make a choice because I read so many different things.
My choices with Pros and Cons from what I heared/read:
1. HTC 10 (my favourite for now):
+ Brilliant display
+ Very good build quality
+ Nice look & feel
+ Software! very pure, what I really like!
- SOT (I read things from like 3 to 6 hours) Seems to vary drastically (I know it depends on usage, but ppl with very similar usage report complete different SOTs)
- HTC. I really like the company but I'm afraid that they don't provide updates for a longer time because of the number of phones they produced
- Screen brightness? (many ppl say it's way too low)
2. Samsung Galaxy S7 edge
+ Look & feel
+ SOT
And here we have my biggest struggle: The display. Many People like AMOLED but I'm worried that if I for example do a holiday trip where I use the display for about 8hours with a navigation software, I will get burn in. whats your experience with burn ins?
Hope you can help me thx!
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First, it's hard to say if you will get a 10 with great SoT. I average 6-7 hours with moderate-to-heavy usage every day. The main problem that some people are having is that WiFi is draining their batteries while in sleep mode. Users on here seem to be close with a fix towards that issue. Hopefully HTC will patch it with a software update, as well. Many others, like myself, haven't had that problem at all.
HTC has been doing well so far with providing updates on the 10. Personally, I wouldn't worry about that at all. Especially when comparing it to a Samsung device. Android N has already been announced for the 10, as well as the M9 and A9.
I'm not having any display problems at all, even under bright sunlight. HTC is using two different display panels (Sharp and Tianma). I believe some people are having issues with the Sharp display, but I mostly see users having the Tianma display without any issues.
Not sure if you're interested in an unlocked bootloader (which doesn't void your warranty), rooting or going s-off though. All are very easy to achieve on the 10. But that's a big reason why I went with the 10, and the fact I've had so many HTC devices. I had an S6 Edge for a short time, and I really didn't like it. Just my personal opinion.
The 10 is the best all around phone I've ever used. The camera is much improved, but probably a bit lower quality than an S7 or G5. It's very fast, the audio is amazing (especially with headphones; if you live in Europe, you'll get a very decent pair of earbuds for free) and everything has worked very well on my end. But the fact that the bootloader can be unlocked without voiding the warranty is a big deal to me.
zantekk said:
Hey guys,
soon I will get a new phone from my contract and did very intense researches which one to get.
I'm still struggeling to make a choice because I read so many different things.
My choices with Pros and Cons from what I heared/read:
1. HTC 10 (my favourite for now):
+ Brilliant display
+ Very good build quality
+ Nice look & feel
+ Software! very pure, what I really like!
- SOT (I read things from like 3 to 6 hours) Seems to vary drastically (I know it depends on usage, but ppl with very similar usage report complete different SOTs)
- HTC. I really like the company but I'm afraid that they don't provide updates for a longer time because of the number of phones they produced
- Screen brightness? (many ppl say it's way too low)
2. Samsung Galaxy S7 edge
+ Look & feel
+ SOT
And here we have my biggest struggle: The display. Many People like AMOLED but I'm worried that if I for example do a holiday trip where I use the display for about 8hours with a navigation software, I will get burn in. whats your experience with burn ins?
Hope you can help me thx!
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Not sure what you mean about the updates.
HTC has been very clear since the M8. They would support each device for 2yrs and would issue the new Android within 90 days of Google releasing it.
My M8 got 5.0 in Jan 2015 from a Sept 2014 Google release. (Slightly over the 90 days)
My M9 got 6.0 in Dec 2015 from a Sept 2015 Google release.
Chances are that the M10 would also get it fairly quickly.
Note that my devices are Unlocked Developer Editions. The Carrier versions are always late. Both my M8 and M9 were AT&T branded that I converted to the Dev Ed.
I like the fact that HTC allows you to unlock the bootloader for rooting. I read a post recently where they said someone just achieved root for the Samsung S7... I just laughed...
Now as for the Display, I personally prefer AMOLED simply because the backlight is lower at night so it makes the screen easier to view in the dark. I've gotten around this by using Lux Lite.
I used to be a Samsung fan boy until I got the M8... The one way I'm going back is if Samsung adopted HTC's method of selling unlocked devices, allowing the bootloader to be unlocked, giving a 2yr/90day guarantee for updates and slimming down TouchWiz.
The waterproof from the S7 didn't appeal to me because of the HTC Uh-Oh warranty.
Those are my thoughts on it and why I went with the 10 over the S7.
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers mobile app
anandlal said:
Not sure what you mean about the updates.
HTC has been very clear since the M8. They would support each device for 2yrs and would issue the new Android within 90 days of Google releasing it.
My M8 got 5.0 in Jan 2015 from a Sept 2014 Google release. (Slightly over the 90 days)
My M9 got 6.0 in Dec 2015 from a Sept 2015 Google release.
Chances are that the M10 would also get it fairly quickly.
Note that my devices are Unlocked Developer Editions. The Carrier versions are always late. Both my M8 and M9 were AT&T branded that I converted to the Dev Ed.
I like the fact that HTC allows you to unlock the bootloader for rooting. I read a post recently where they said someone just achieved root for the Samsung S7... I just laughed...
Now as for the Display, I personally prefer AMOLED simply because the backlight is lower at night so it makes the screen easier to view in the dark. I've gotten around this by using Lux Lite.
I used to be a Samsung fan boy until I got the M8... The one way I'm going back is if Samsung adopted HTC's method of selling unlocked devices, allowing the bootloader to be unlocked, giving a 2yr/90day guarantee for updates and slimming down TouchWiz.
The waterproof from the S7 didn't appeal to me because of the HTC Uh-Oh warranty.
Those are my thoughts on it and why I went with the 10 over the S7.
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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This is true one of the only phones you can get beside an iPhone that you can convert to factory unlocked
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htc 10...
I believe the Uh Oh protection is only for US users, though. I think the OP is in Europe. But he/she will receive the "hi-res" ear buds for free, unlike US users.
Regardless, they're both great phones in different aspects. Very good build quality on both, but I prefer the aluminum on the HTC.
If you want to have an unlocked bootloader (again without losing your warranty) and quick, easy root and s-off, it's HTC. Same with Sense vs TouchWiz, in my opinion, if you're going to run a stock launcher.
Audio goes to HTC, while the camera goes to the S7. But the 10's camera is much improved compared to the M8 and M9. You will likely see the same performance and battery life between the two.
Regarding updates, it depends if you buy the unlocked version or obtain the phone from a carrier. Carrier updates will roll out slower, which is the case for every Android phone on a carrier. But you will be receiving Android N and most likely the next version after it.
As I mentioned earlier, the screen on my 10 has been great under all conditions. Updates have come through quick (for improvements, security updates, etc). And hopefully Android N comes to the 10 pretty quickly after Google releases it. I wouldn't expect Samsung to be any faster in the updates department.
AMOLED burn in is still a major concern for me despite what everyone seems to argue. I had significant burn in on my s4 where the status bar was, and my friends have shown me significant burn in on the s5 and s6. Maybe I'm just pickier and notice it more than most, but I still prefer LCD for that reason. I can't speak for normal use with the s7/edge, but I've yet to see an s7/edge display model in a store that DIDN'T have burn-in to some degree.
*edit: in reference to screen on time, I get about 6 hours (almost entirely web browsing), which I'm very, very pleased with. My difference in SOT is dependent on signal strength. At work, where I'm basically in a concrete box with terrible Wi-Fi, SOT drops to about 4 hours, but everywhere else, I average 6 to 6.5. I don't experience any Wi-Fi drain. I lose about 2%/8 hours overnight. Overall, I get ~2.5 times SOT I was getting with my galaxy s4 or LG g4.
I'm looking for a new phone on a budget and I was wondering if you guys still recommend this phone.
I'm coming from a HTC One m7 and I'm looking for the sound. I'm enjoying the earphone DAC of my old m7 and I'm an audiophille.
But some drawbacks make me think about an iphone 6 or even an s6. Mainly, the camera. Is it really that bad? I was searching on flickr for shots and they don't look as bad as the reviews say it it. And also, it will continue development. I mean, with android 7.0 just released, it will get it officially, or even a bug-less cm build? Any good mods or anything at all that can attract me to buy this device? Leave your opinion here and thanks for helping my buying choice.
blurhns said:
I'm looking for a new phone on a budget and I was wondering if you guys still recommend this phone.
I'm coming from a HTC One m7 and I'm looking for the sound. I'm enjoying the earphone DAC of my old m7 and I'm an audiophille.
But some drawbacks make me think about an iphone 6 or even an s6. Mainly, the camera. Is it really that bad? I was searching on flickr for shots and they don't look as bad as the reviews say it it. And also, it will continue development. I mean, with android 7.0 just released, it will get it officially, or even a bug-less cm build? Any good mods or anything at all that can attract me to buy this device? Leave your opinion here and thanks for helping my buying choice.
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Short answer? Not a chance - purely from a development standpoint, the HTC M9 has been a staggering disappointment. We have some great folks working on AOSP-based and stock-based ROMs, but there simply isn't the breadth of development that exists for previous HTC One models. I'm not optimistic about the M10 either.
That said, the M9 is getting Android 7 (Nougat) from HTC, so we're not entirely behind the times with software updates, despite being slow (standard practice for non-Nexus devices). It is even possible that development of ROMs will continue to grow. Still, I would recommend waiting for the next Nexus phones (rumored to be released in October) and see how they compare to the current options on the market.
(As for the camera - I've never had any complaints, but I'm a pretty basic user on that front)
blurhns said:
I'm looking for a new phone on a budget and I was wondering if you guys still recommend this phone.
I'm coming from a HTC One m7 and I'm looking for the sound. I'm enjoying the earphone DAC of my old m7 and I'm an audiophille.
But some drawbacks make me think about an iphone 6 or even an s6. Mainly, the camera. Is it really that bad? I was searching on flickr for shots and they don't look as bad as the reviews say it it. And also, it will continue development. I mean, with android 7.0 just released, it will get it officially, or even a bug-less cm build? Any good mods or anything at all that can attract me to buy this device? Leave your opinion here and thanks for helping my buying choice.
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I don't really recommend this phone either. If you're looking for a budget phone... definitely go with the Nexus 5X/6P or One Plus 3 or any sub-$400 phone and put a skin over it (i.e. dBrand/Slickwraps). The sapphire screen on the back camera of my HTC One M9 has already cracked under not a whole lot of pressure applied to it some time ago and it would be silly of me to send it back to HTC to get it fixed as it'll crack again probably soon after. Camera is at best, 'meh' when it's in auto; I have the tendency to always grab photos in manual mode since I can make the photo more beautifiul. When this phone is in my hand with my pinky at the bottom holding it straight, my pinky starts to hurt because of its weight. Battery has been pretty good as I don't have a ton of apps running in the background only the ones I use daily (i.e. Snapchat, Hangouts, Maps, Messenger, etc.) but for other hardcore people who load apps onto their phone like mad... this would drain your battery pretty quick. Also YouTube videos drain the battery pretty quick from my experience LOL. If you have any questions about it, I'll try my best to give you an unbiased opinion. I still don't feel like I need to switch phones after having bought this phone on release day but quite honestly, I don't see how I could recommend anyone getting the M9 in 2016 even if it has gotten cheaper.
computerslayer said:
Short answer? Not a chance - purely from a development standpoint, the HTC M9 has been a staggering disappointment. We have some great folks working on AOSP-based and stock-based ROMs, but there simply isn't the breadth of development that exists for previous HTC One models. I'm not optimistic about the M10 either.
That said, the M9 is getting Android 7 (Nougat) from HTC, so we're not entirely behind the times with software updates, despite being slow (standard practice for non-Nexus devices). It is even possible that development of ROMs will continue to grow. Still, I would recommend waiting for the next Nexus phones (rumored to be released in October) and see how they compare to the current options on the market.
(As for the camera - I've never had any complaints, but I'm a pretty basic user on that front)
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Thanks a lot for your reply. I can see why you can't recommend it, but I can't wait since I don't have a phone anymore. I was thinking about the Nexus 5x since i'm on a low budget but i heard it's not stereo speakers and the audio jack quality is pretty pour. i think i'll go with the iphone 6/se in the end.
Moomoomania said:
I don't really recommend this phone either. If you're looking for a budget phone... definitely go with the Nexus 5X/6P or One Plus 3 or any sub-$400 phone and put a skin over it (i.e. dBrand/Slickwraps). The sapphire screen on the back camera of my HTC One M9 has already cracked under not a whole lot of pressure applied to it some time ago and it would be silly of me to send it back to HTC to get it fixed as it'll crack again probably soon after. Camera is at best, 'meh' when it's in auto; I have the tendency to always grab photos in manual mode since I can make the photo more beautifiul. When this phone is in my hand with my pinky at the bottom holding it straight, my pinky starts to hurt because of its weight. Battery has been pretty good as I don't have a ton of apps running in the background only the ones I use daily (i.e. Snapchat, Hangouts, Maps, Messenger, etc.) but for other hardcore people who load apps onto their phone like mad... this would drain your battery pretty quick. Also YouTube videos drain the battery pretty quick from my experience LOL. If you have any questions about it, I'll try my best to give you an unbiased opinion. I still don't feel like I need to switch phones after having bought this phone on release day but quite honestly, I don't see how I could recommend anyone getting the M9 in 2016 even if it has gotten cheaper.
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I can relate to the weight issue. I hated to hold my m7 for more than 5 mins. Can't even watch youtube in bed because my hands would start hurting. And about the battery, my m7 drained it's battery in 1+1/2h of sot. that's so poor. and i changed the battery twice. I enjoy HTC only for the acoustics, but as I said earlier, i think i'm going with the 6/se for it's dac performance and mostly "just works" theory. I'm kind of sick of android and it's optimization.
blurhns said:
Thanks a lot for your reply. I can see why you can't recommend it, but I can't wait since I don't have a phone anymore. I was thinking about the Nexus 5x since i'm on a low budget but i heard it's not stereo speakers and the audio jack quality is pretty pour. i think i'll go with the iphone 6/se in the end.
I can relate to the weight issue. I hated to hold my m7 for more than 5 mins. Can't even watch youtube in bed because my hands would start hurting. And about the battery, my m7 drained it's battery in 1+1/2h of sot. that's so poor. and i changed the battery twice. I enjoy HTC only for the acoustics, but as I said earlier, i think i'm going with the 6/se for it's dac performance and mostly "just works" theory. I'm kind of sick of android and it's optimization.
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The iPhone 7 & the new 'nexus' phones are right around the corner; I suggest you wait a bit before then. I have used an iPhone 6 for several months prior to getting the M9 and to be honest the fingerprint sensor on it is REALLY unreliable when you have the slightest amount of water or dirt on your finger (and quite slow and worked maybe 75% of the time with a super clean thumb). The SE model uses the old fingerprint sensor found in the iPhone 6 so it'll be as equally as bad. My ex had the iPhone 6 for a while and the battery literally crapped out less than a year so be sure that if you're planning to buy a used iPhone 6 off of Craigslist or another similar website, that it is still in 'decent' condition. Your option for the 6 is either a 16GB iPhone (~10GB of space) or a 64GB (~59GB of space) so if you need more than 10GB, a 64GB iPhone in good condition will still set you back ~$600-650.
Only reason why I ended up coming back to android was because I felt iOS was really basic at best and I truly did miss the customizing aspect of android. I recommend just buying a used phone to use for a month or two off of Craigslist that's ~$100 and purchase the newer phones (iPhone 7 or Nexus) after they have been released.
A compromise might be purchasing a used smartphone to tide you over until the new wave of Nexus phones and iPhones come out. A bit of purgatory, but it might work in your favor.
Hello, I am looking for new phone and 5x looks pretty good. I don't need ultra fast CPU for gaming. Just for fluent usage during the day, with a decent battery and good camera quality. Are you satisfied and would you recommend this phone? Does it have some software problems or bugs?
Thank you and sorry for my English
If it had 3 or 4 GB RAM then I wouldn't hesitate. As it stands, it's a little frustrating with multitasking at times. It's quite sporadic where sometimes it seems to hold 3 or 4 apps that you're using in memory without any trouble. Other times you use one app, switch to another, then switch back to the first app and it's gone. I would imagine with a 3GB phone that would not be an issue.
Performance in other ways is just fine without complaints. The Nougat update seems pretty good to me - no major bugs to report and battery life genuinely improved to make it acceptable.
sidofido said:
Hello, I am looking for new phone and 5x looks pretty good. I don't need ultra fast CPU for gaming. Just for fluent usage during the day, with a decent battery and good camera quality. Are you satisfied and would you recommend this phone? Does it have some software problems or bugs?
Thank you and sorry for my English
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Hello, I am using the nexus 5x for about 7 months now and I am totally satisfied with its performance.I use it mostly for internet(like chat, reading articles, watching videos) but never used it for games. In heavy games it will lag a little but for daily use it is very smooth.The processor is powerful enough for every use except heavy gaming. I tell you in bullets the pros and cons soo you can decide.
Pros:
- Great Camera: Best out there in this budget category and good enough in low light with LED Flash.
- Overall Speed and Smoothness: Google will give you the fastest android experience because of clean Android ROM.
- Updates Until September 2017: Which probably means you will get Android O (8.0) (Nexus 5x was the first phone that had Android Nougat 7.0 installed. And security updates until September 2018. Google will also update all your system apps like phone messages contacts and other so it adds functionality by the time whick is also great.
Cons:
- Battery stamina: It is not quite the best, more like average I would say. I get about 3-4 Hours of Screen on Time. If you use it with 4g it can barely stand out for a day. If you make medium usage you can have 2 days max.
- It gets a little hot quite easy: Especially on summer the phone will heat up really quick if you are on Internet about 5minutes but it won't be a problem cause its stable. The phone will become a little slower in order to low its temperature.
- Wouldn't be bad if it had 3GB of RAM for better multitasking. With 2GB you can have about 3 apps in memory.
Overall: I would say it's a good choice for its money, especially now that you can buy it for almost half the price it had when released.
Thank you guys for your answers. I will probably buy it
Given how expensive the just announced Pixels are going to be I would grab a 5X 32G while you can. I'd expect them to be $250USD or less new while you can get new ones. The Pixel's start at $649USD. I plan to use my 5X as long as possible or until I see a significant drop on the Pixel. Not sure if that will happen since it appears Google now believes that they need to convince buyers that phones have to be ridiculously expensive to be considered good.
You can still get them from Google but only through the project Fi page https://fi.google.com/about/phones/ Not sure if Fi is available where you are or not but if it is it can be a great way to go.
I was in the same boat, I didn't mind the price of the new Pixels but IMHO it smells of them going down the Nexus road then deciding to pivot to Pixel. But not having enough time to work with an ODM (like they do with their own servers and switches) and had to go with HTC (since they would be more willing to sell them a version of their phones un-branded). So I'm not a fan of the huge bezels or some of the other missing features. I will wait until next year when they can really design the phone from the ground up and it will be the real Google Pixel. I almost went with Motorola/Lenovo but the unfortunate decisions they have made lately has really turned me off of them. So I was looking for a phone that would last me at least one year and I ran into an great deal on a NIB 32gb 5X so I snapped it up (just got it yesterday).
Yes it's not the best battery life but I lived with a Nexus 5's less then stellar battery life and that was one of my favorite phones. So far I'm very impressed, it's more then good enough and the issues are relatively minor. Very happy with it so far.
I really like this phone but I want to know your opinions about if is a good buy after one year released, specially considering I want to keep it for around 1.5 years..
I'm specially concerned about battery life, good software and updates or community development, ...
Also I wanted to ask this questions about the phone:
- is there any way for recording in 1080p 60 fps?
- can you drop screen resolution to 1080 for battery savings?
-Ok google with screen off drains much battery? (Most useful feature, in my Nexus 5x doesn't drain battery due to sensor hub)
I really love the phone but I'm not sure it still worthing it considering new phones like p10 and that maybe is not so big upgrade from Nexus 5x
-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
Definitely worth buying!
I'm not having heat issues, and battery is fine considering that you can do a full charge in 1.5 hours. Camera is comparable with all the other flagships and beats many of them in many areas. Wifi is ok, never had issues that would made me consider it as "the worst thing".
It's a nice phone, very robust, and it should easily last for 1.5 years. Development/support for the phone is great and you can easily root it (which is essential nowadays for ensuring that you get the best out of your phone).
Worth buying but I'd probably get the pixel, you could wait for the S8 (if that's your thing)
Personally I'd wait for the HTC 11, I'm guessing it'll be a beast.
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If you can get a good deal then it definitely worth it. i doubt they will make a better device. i plan to keep using mine the next 2 years and never sell it. i am in love
To be fair the issues i am facing are,
Battery life can't get more than 4 hours SOT on very high usage.
very high battery drain when i go out, LTE Enabled + max brightness with normal usage.
carbon grey color scratch easily.
keaheng said:
-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
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I don't have any of those problems. US unlocked. Good battery life. No "pink" screen. WiFi is superb. Running Viper10 3.5.0 with EX Kernel. Smooth and responsive. Does everything I want it to. I haven't seen any other phone I would upgrade to at this time. That's my $0.02 keep the change.
The phone is good and battery life exellent. Wifi could be better. But I miss security updates from HTC. No update since January.
I would suggest you to go for it, since prices are down, developer support is awesome lots of los+sense roms....perfromance is good (820 can be easily compared to 821), camera is decent enough my brother got s7 and we both click awesome pics....also with nougat voLTE is also there so worth buying it...
Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
I recommend s7 edge...best battery ever...amoled screen...killer camera...good development
Javi22 said:
Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
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I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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dladz said:
I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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Of course it's a capable device, just that I require a good battery life so I can use the phone as a smartphone, with everything enabled as I like, and it eats the battery so...
I don't like Samsung so I'll wait to see new htc however I don't think I get it because of the price. I will wait for a future one plus with smaller screen or a Huawei p10 when it drops its price
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I am debating about the same. I am still holding to my old M8 but the battery life is not so good and the top speaker is distorting the sound and I love my stereo front speakers. But I think I will wait for confirmation on the expected HTC 11 and see if it´s much better.
Once thing I am worried about is that we still don't even have a leak or rumor about the 11. Could it be that no 11 is coming and it´s vaporware?
Cheers
If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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Yes I'd guess so.
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I just bought a "mint" Verizon HTC 10 for only $395 from Swappa with S-OFF($25 already saved). Here is my list of factors when purchasing a phone:
I live in a Verizon only reliable area.
I will only use this type of phone: Rootable (with good development behind it), SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C
My backup LineageOS S5 is on it's last leg physically, really needed a new phone.
Prefer one handed phones.
Prefer OEM's that encourage unlocked bootloaders and rooting (HTC, LG, and OnePlus seem to be it)
Strongly prefer front facing stereo speakers.
Prefer IP68
Prefer OIS, with large megapixels (for low light)
Dislike glass phones (don't need wireless charging tradeoff for crackable back panels).
Dislike camera bumps
From that list, the Verizon HTC 10 EMEI activates easily on Verizon, is rooted, has SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C, 5.2 display (one handed), metal body, and OIS with large megapixelas, and is from a OEM that encourages the phone OS freedom.
The 3 things the HTC 10 fails to check for me are:
No IP68, but at least it's IP53.
No front facing stereo speakers, but at least it has 1 front facing tweeter with a sideways woofer to make BoomSound...better than most other phones on the market.
No camera bump, but I put cases on my phones anyways.
Got to ask you guys I'm undecided between the Huawei P10 or the HTC 10.. I've only had HTC's since back in the days of when they made the XDA's for O2 with Windows mobile.
Which phone would you choose.. so far the only thing I really like about the P10 is that it has 128GB of Memory and well the 6GB of Ram doesn't hurt either.
Finally I bought Xiaomi mi5s. But it happens that aosp/lineageos roms are great but camera quality and battery are much worse
And I refuse to use miui
So I'm thinking again about htc 10. My question is about roms. Since htc won't update software anymore, I would like to know if developers do the job...
I mean, are dev roms as good as stock roms? (I see it has offical support for great roms like Resurrection remix or Mokee
That would be the point for buying it or not
It also has official support for Lineage OS and they've announced it will get a stock android O update (which will probably come around January if history repeats itself). The developers are keeping up with security releases, so if that's your biggest concern then get a non-stock based rom and run with it. I'm pretty happy with the phone. The one downside to running non-stock based roms (AOSP or LOS based) is that you'll lose HDR on the camera.
For the record, I picked mine up last month. It's a Sprint model that I unlocked the sim and LTE bands on and am running it on T-Mobile.
I was considering 2 phones: Pixel 2 xl or OP5T
The price tag for Pixel 2 is really giving me pause.
The lack of project treble and supposed poor customer service is making me rethink OP5T.
So judging on value and developer support, the original Pixel might be the way to go.
Is there anything I should know about this device from people who have owned it for a year or more?
I'm especially cautious when it comes to battery degradation. I'm sure I'd still be using my Nexus 6p (happily) if the battery wasn't garbage. Switched to S7 Edge in July and HATE it. Bootloader locked and root only if you use a laggy engineering kernel. I can't wait to ditch it but having a hard time deciding which device to buy.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance guys!
I actually switched from an S7 edge (exynos) to a Pixel XL last year and I can say that I don't regret it.
To resume, the Pixel XL is still a great phone. It still has a solide performance (never had an issue when it comes to that), the camera is still better than most of the cameras of 2018 smartphones and its constantly getting support and updates from Google (until fall 2018).
However, when it comes to battery life I noticed an important degradation. I was getting more than 8h of SOT in about 1d and 1/2 when the phone was new, now I'm having a hard time to reach 6h on stock firmware (you can always fix this with root).
One other downside compared to the S7 edge is the heating. The temperature of my my S7 edge never exceeded 38° C even when playing graphic hungry games in summer, with the Pixel XL it can go much higher than that which causes fast battery drain when gaming.
I hope this can help you
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I actually switched from an S7 edge (exynos) to a Pixel XL last year and I can say that I don't regret it.
To resume, the Pixel XL is still a great phone. It still has a solide performance (never had an issue when it comes to that), the camera is still better than most of the cameras of 2018 smartphones and its constantly getting support and updates from Google (until fall 2018).
However, when it comes to battery life I noticed an important degradation. I was getting more than 8h of SOT in about 1d and 1/2 when the phone was new, now I'm having a hard time to reach 6h on stock firmware (you can always fix this with root).
One other downside compared to the S7 edge is the heating. The temperature of my my S7 edge never exceeded 38° C even when playing graphic hungry games in summer, with the Pixel XL it can go much higher than that which causes fast battery drain when gaming.
I hope this can help you
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It does help. Thanks!
As for battery degradation, you can run an app called accubattery. It needs like 24 hrs or so to get a proper reading but will measure your battery's total capacity.
My Nexus 6p was at 50% after only 1 year. I was 2 days out of warranty and Huawei refused to do anything.
This is why Huawei Mate 9 is not on my shortlist of phones to buy.
Thanks again for the info!
If you can't get the Pixel 2 then definitely go for the Pixel 2016. It's holding up very good for me too. Great camera still, fantastic smoothness still, and it will be supported for next six months too. I will be using mine for another year at least.
Just those infamous hardware problems you pray that you never face, like that microphone issue.
I switch phones regularly, and had an S8+, then an iPhone X, and now a Pixel XL (that I picked up in like new condition for less than $300 on eBay...). And while I would prefer the taller, more modern display of the Pixel 2, this was a great bargain. I agree with a prior reply, that it's comforting to receive all of the latest updates. Battery life seems as good as any other Android I've had recently. I also agree that it's still an excellent camera for its age. Live wallpaper was a pleasant surprise. If you're a case fan, there are more brand name cases available for the Pixel 2 XL...
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If you can't get the Pixel 2 then definitely go for the Pixel 2016. It's holding up very good for me too. Great camera still, fantastic smoothness still, and it will be supported for next six months too. I will be using mine for another year at least.
Just those infamous hardware problems you pray that you never face, like that microphone issue.
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We should still get security patches til Oct 2019 though still. Hoping they keep major updates rolling too with treble and all would be a waste to only support this device for 2 years. Hopefully with treble though we can still get unofficial updates even if it just aosp for a good while and there's always lineage and other custom ROMs.
I just picked up new Pixel XL for £200 to replace my OP3. It's great. Love it as much as I did my Nexus 6p back then it released.