Like the title says anyway to speed up stock non rooted I would unlock bootloader and go custom but I haven't got my new pc yet I've turned off animation also using a 3rd party launcher and greenify in no root mode
ttocs99 said:
Like the title says anyway to speed up stock non rooted I would unlock bootloader and go custom but I haven't got my new pc yet I've turned off animation also using a 3rd party launcher and greenify in no root mode
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you obviously can't overclock cpu without root but using greenify is a good idea even in none root devices, also disabling/uninstalling unwanted apps helps to have some more free ram.
tbh there's not much you can do without root...
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So my simplistic understanding of Root vs Unlock is that;
- Root gives you superuser access, and
- Unlock unlocks the bootloader (how stuff is loaded at boot time).
So, assuming that's correct would I ever need to be unlocked on an A100 if I want to use custom ROMs?
My main intent with rooting is to use third party apps with extended access privileges.
Bonus question: What are the main reason(s) people unlock (in stead of 'just' being rooted)?
Thanks!
Rooting is for certain apps and r/w to system if needed. Unlocked is allowing a non official rom to run. Rooted stock is usually fine for alot of people. And yes you pretty much understood it. You don't need one to have the other.
Oh also, main reason to unlock is cwm and custom roms, serves no other real purpose.
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Darkbulb said:
So my simplistic understanding of Root vs Unlock is that;
- Root gives you superuser access, and
- Unlock unlocks the bootloader (how stuff is loaded at boot time).
So, assuming that's correct would I ever need to be unlocked on an A100 if I want to use custom ROMs?
My main intent with rooting is to use third party apps with extended access privileges.
Bonus question: What are the main reason(s) people unlock (in stead of 'just' being rooted)?
Thanks!
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You hit it on the nail on that. The only reason people want to use diffrent roms is due to issues with stock roms that wont be fixed in time such as bloated ware, custom start animations, and other neat custom rom stuff. lol
Since you are rooted i would highly recommend using Crossix SD Swap mod to expand your internal memory so u dont fill it up so fast. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422158
Hi, thread title pretty much explains my question. I am a new GNex user having change from an S2 running a Nexus ROM.
The GNex is stock ROM, SIM free, unlocked bootloader and rooted using the Nexus Toolkit and running JB 4.1.1
Now I have my phone just how I want it with apps and settings etc, some stock apps removed like google+ etc. I would like to be able to UNROOT the device so I can run software that does not run on rooted devices like Barclays PingIT.
So is there a reasonably simple way to at least make the device appear unrooted and to not lose any off my apps, settings and to not have anything added back (so flashing factory ROM is not an option)????
Thanks
sferg.410 said:
Hi, thread title pretty much explains my question. I am a new GNex user having change from an S2 running a Nexus ROM.
The GNex is stock ROM, unlocked and rooted using the Nexus Toolkit and running JB 4.1.1
Now I have my phone just how I want it with apps and settings etc, some stock apps removed like google+ etc. I would like to be able to relock and UNROOT the device so I can run software that does not run on rooted devices like Barclays PingIT.
So is there a reasonably simple way to at least make the device appear unrooted and to not lose any off my apps, settings and to not have anything added back (so flashing factory ROM is not an option)????
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27878074
Unlock/Lock without wipe...if you have SU access.
I've never heard of an app that requires your bootloader to be locked.
But open Superuser (currently running a backup or I'd test) and it should have a temp un-root option.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27878074
Unlock/Lock without wipe...if you have SU access.
I've never heard of an app that requires your bootloader to be locked.
But open Superuser (currently running a backup or I'd test) and it should have a temp un-root option.
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ok maybe i didnt write my thread correctly...
the lock/unlock is not really an issue as that can be done with nexus toolbox anyway.
the point of the thread is 'can i UNROOT the phone' without loosing settings and apps etc or changing it in anyway. lock/unlock is not really an issue.
i want to be able to use Barclays PingIT for example but it is able to detect if a device is rooted and then stops working.
so unrooting is the issue, not locking the bootloader
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Unlocking the bootloader with that toolkit WILL wipe your data...fyi.
And I just told you.
Open super user.
Swipe the pane all the way to the left.
"Temp Unroot"
Jubakuba said:
Unlocking the bootloader with that toolkit WILL wipe your data...fyi.
And I just told you.
Open super user.
Swipe the pane all the way to the left.
"Temp Unroot"
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yes i am very aware that it wipes my data, bit of a pain but that is learning, i shouldn't have relocked it should i... had it all nice and now i have to do it all again. I did have an app backup though so wont need to download everything. just redo all the settings.
As for SU temp unroot - that does not work, it makes no difference to an app like Barclays PingIT, it still detects the device as rooted.
Hi all. Super-happy T889 owner (since zero-day), and would be grateful for any advice with some basic questions. Been following and searching bot this and the N7100 "umbrella" thread, so thanks in advance for any help.
My experience with root is essentially CWM and Titanium Backup (no custom kernals/ROMs). I rooted my Note1 (int'l unlocked) but never ventured beyond 2.3.6 and LC1 because (i) it wasn't my primary phone and (ii) fear. My main phone on Verizon was also rooted, but more like rooted and potatoed. I switched from VZ to Tmo for the T889 and I love it. I kind of want to root even if just for CWM and Titanium, but the pure stock experience is stable and fast, and the bloatware from Tmo is not remotely close to VZ. And I'm fairly hopeful that we'll get the multi-window via OTA update.
Questions - Would root provide any fundamental performance improvements with CPU/GPU/memory usage/general kick-assery on this device?
Are others waiting to see how the multi-screen updates play out?
Am I being overly cautious because VZ made things so difficult?
Is it accurate that the "disable" capability in Jelly Bean provides some native ability to freeze applications?
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Hi all. Super-happy T889 owner (since zero-day), and would be grateful for any advice with some basic questions. Been following and searching bot this and the N7100 "umbrella" thread, so thanks in advance for any help.
My experience with root is essentially CWM and Titanium Backup (no custom kernals/ROMs). I rooted my Note1 (int'l unlocked) but never ventured beyond 2.3.6 and LC1 because (i) it wasn't my primary phone and (ii) fear. My main phone on Verizon was also rooted, but more like rooted and potatoed. I switched from VZ to Tmo for the T889 and I love it. I kind of want to root even if just for CWM and Titanium, but the pure stock experience is stable and fast, and the bloatware from Tmo is not remotely close to VZ. And I'm fairly hopeful that we'll get the multi-window via OTA update.
Questions - Would root provide any fundamental performance improvements with CPU/GPU/memory usage/general kick-assery on this device?
Are others waiting to see how the multi-screen updates play out?
Am I being overly cautious because VZ made things so difficult?
Is it accurate that the "disable" capability in Jelly Bean provides some native ability to freeze applications?
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Root not do any performance , only allow root app do tweak and completely control your phone which without root you can't do ( rom tool box , titanium back up,ram manger app ...etc ).
If you try disable APP with native option come with phone, APP will come back running.( titanium backup can permenant disable,backup,restore,uninstall APP system app which without root can't do).
Over caution is good , if you go right direction then why should you worry for
If you only plan to root but keep close to stock as possible .you can try Chaifire auto root ( stock recovery include not custom CWM & remember never flash anything from stock recovery) .
About multi screen, I hope Developer will add into there custom rom.
Hope this help.
use chainfires autoroot and install adblock and setcpu and titanium backup
with setcpu you can change the governor to performance and your phone will get 6500 in quadrant lol or you can underclock it to 1ghz and stock governor to save a lot of battery power, i had my screen on for 6 hours and 30 minutes and still had 30% battery and the performance was still great
with titanium backup delete all the garbage they added to the phone
haldi15 said:
use chainfires autoroot and install adblock and setcpu and titanium backup
with setcpu you can change the governor to performance and your phone will get 6500 in quadrant lol or you can underclock it to 1ghz and stock governor to save a lot of battery power, i had my screen on for 6 hours and 30 minutes and still had 30% battery and the performance was still great
with titanium backup delete all the garbage they added to the phone
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Yeah. I decided to root with CF-Auto-Root and that was about as painless as could be. But I don't see/remember how to access CWM. Is that a separate download? CF's root guide doesn't seem to reference CWM.
Thanks much for your guidance.
auto root keeps everything stock it just roots the phone to get CWM you need to install it separately, i dont have it yet i just kept it stock
You can use the galaxy note2 toolbox to install CWM, but unless you're flashing alternative ROMS/KERNELS/MODS you dont need it.
To my knowledge, if you are rooted you cant get OTA updates normally. However if you just keep reading these forums or other tmonews sites, you'll here about the multiwindow updates and how to install. Alternatively, a dev will probably find out how to make a Tmo compatible ROM with the N7100 sw features built in before we get an update from Tmo...
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Thanks to all for all the knowledge. I was thinking of the CWM backup functions which let me do a complete restore via recovery mode. Is there a different solution for that these days?
doubledragon said:
Thanks to all for all the knowledge. I was thinking of the CWM backup functions which let me do a complete restore via recovery mode. Is there a different solution for that these days?
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CWM , TOOLKIT , TWRP your choice.
This may come off as a silly question but, I"m aware that AT&T and Verizon versions of the Note 4 there is no way to root it permanently but, even if you can temporary root it, is it still possible to install a custom rom? I'm in the process of downgrading from lollipop right now (I hate the new notifications) but just figure I'd ask.
Locked boot loader, no custom ROMs
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Thanks! guess that means i'll stick with kit kat and nova launcher for now.
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This may come off as a silly question but, I"m aware that AT&T and Verizon versions of the Note 4 there is no way to root it permanently but, even if you can temporary root it, is it still possible to install a custom rom? I'm in the process of downgrading from lollipop right now (I hate the new notifications) but just figure I'd ask.
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without permanent root, no there is no way to flash a custom rom, if we get permanent then we can use flashfire or multisystem to flash custom roms (touchwiz only no CM or AOSP variants)
Eliminating ATT bloatware & S-bloatware
cstayton said:
without permanent root, no there is no way to flash a custom rom, if we get permanent then we can use flashfire or multisystem to flash custom roms (touchwiz only no CM or AOSP variants)
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I have been wondering if it may be possible to eliminate all the bloatware from ATT and all bloatware from Samsung, by way of using the Kingroot process > then install Ti-Backup > then DELETE not freeze those applications.
Will such a thing work ? even if one may loose root after rebooting?
I there a possibility that that attempting something like that may cause a major crash on my phone?
In other words, I would like to be able to rid myself from all that bloatware that came with my out of the box N910-A i know about the disable feature on the apps manager, but i want those apps OUT.
Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.
And I am STILL hoping for PERMA-root sometime in the near future
IC-USER1 said:
I have been wondering if it may be possible to eliminate all the bloatware from ATT and all bloatware from Samsung, by way of using the Kingroot process > then install Ti-Backup > then DELETE not freeze those applications.
Will such a thing work ? even if one may loose root after rebooting?
I there a possibility that that attempting something like that may cause a major crash on my phone?
In other words, I would like to be able to rid myself from all that bloatware that came with my out of the box N910-A i know about the disable feature on the apps manager, but i want those apps OUT.
Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.
And I am STILL hoping for PERMA-root sometime in the near future
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unfortunately no that wont work, if you delete or modify the system partition IN ANY WAY it will cause the DM_VERITY to kick in. until we get past the OS Verification and write protection we cant delete or modify anything.
collinstheclown said:
Locked boot loader, no custom ROMs
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many devices with locked bootloaders have custom roms, The S5 for instance. it's not the locked bootloader that is preventing custom roms it is the need for permanent root, once we have that we can use flashfire or multirom to flash custom touchwiz roms. what the locked bootloader prevents is the ability to flash custom kernels thus preventing roms based off of CM or AOSP/AOKP
Thank you for your Very fast and friendly reply. Have yourself a good day.
Is it possible to still use apps like Snapchat, bank apps, etc. when rooted/xposed installed?
If yes, does it run without issues or do I have to get some workarounds/tricks?
I'm rooted and I was able to use bank app, BUT everything depends of the devs of the app that you use. I read that snapchat doesn't work anymore on rooted phone. Also I think there was app in xposed that can hide root temporary or something. Can't say for sure because I never use it cuz I never need it, but I think is possible. Don't forget you can use adaway if you are rooted.
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mefistoreyon said:
I'm rooted and I was able to use bank app, BUT everything depends of the devs of the app that you use. I read that snapchat doesn't work anymore on rooted phone. Also I think there was app in xposed that can hide root temporary or something. Can't say for sure because I never use it cuz I never need it, but I think is possible. Don't forget you can use adaway if you are rooted.
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oh, that bad that now SC doesn't even support rooted, is there at least a way to "disable" root for some time? Some flashable zips to uninstall/install root by "current needs"?
I think there is xposed module for that but can't test because still no xposed for nougat.
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Sharp852 said:
Is it possible to still use apps like Snapchat, bank apps, etc. when rooted/xposed installed?
If yes, does it run without issues or do I have to get some workarounds/tricks?
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I'm on s. Rom marshmallow sense, but using xposed and any module to hide root is possible (I'm using rootcloack module and works perfect) I don't use snapchat but some other apps which don't run on rooted phone , but I'm using them with above setup.