Hi all. Super-happy T889 owner (since zero-day), and would be grateful for any advice with some basic questions. Been following and searching bot this and the N7100 "umbrella" thread, so thanks in advance for any help.
My experience with root is essentially CWM and Titanium Backup (no custom kernals/ROMs). I rooted my Note1 (int'l unlocked) but never ventured beyond 2.3.6 and LC1 because (i) it wasn't my primary phone and (ii) fear. My main phone on Verizon was also rooted, but more like rooted and potatoed. I switched from VZ to Tmo for the T889 and I love it. I kind of want to root even if just for CWM and Titanium, but the pure stock experience is stable and fast, and the bloatware from Tmo is not remotely close to VZ. And I'm fairly hopeful that we'll get the multi-window via OTA update.
Questions - Would root provide any fundamental performance improvements with CPU/GPU/memory usage/general kick-assery on this device?
Are others waiting to see how the multi-screen updates play out?
Am I being overly cautious because VZ made things so difficult?
Is it accurate that the "disable" capability in Jelly Bean provides some native ability to freeze applications?
doubledragon said:
Hi all. Super-happy T889 owner (since zero-day), and would be grateful for any advice with some basic questions. Been following and searching bot this and the N7100 "umbrella" thread, so thanks in advance for any help.
My experience with root is essentially CWM and Titanium Backup (no custom kernals/ROMs). I rooted my Note1 (int'l unlocked) but never ventured beyond 2.3.6 and LC1 because (i) it wasn't my primary phone and (ii) fear. My main phone on Verizon was also rooted, but more like rooted and potatoed. I switched from VZ to Tmo for the T889 and I love it. I kind of want to root even if just for CWM and Titanium, but the pure stock experience is stable and fast, and the bloatware from Tmo is not remotely close to VZ. And I'm fairly hopeful that we'll get the multi-window via OTA update.
Questions - Would root provide any fundamental performance improvements with CPU/GPU/memory usage/general kick-assery on this device?
Are others waiting to see how the multi-screen updates play out?
Am I being overly cautious because VZ made things so difficult?
Is it accurate that the "disable" capability in Jelly Bean provides some native ability to freeze applications?
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Root not do any performance , only allow root app do tweak and completely control your phone which without root you can't do ( rom tool box , titanium back up,ram manger app ...etc ).
If you try disable APP with native option come with phone, APP will come back running.( titanium backup can permenant disable,backup,restore,uninstall APP system app which without root can't do).
Over caution is good , if you go right direction then why should you worry for
If you only plan to root but keep close to stock as possible .you can try Chaifire auto root ( stock recovery include not custom CWM & remember never flash anything from stock recovery) .
About multi screen, I hope Developer will add into there custom rom.
Hope this help.
use chainfires autoroot and install adblock and setcpu and titanium backup
with setcpu you can change the governor to performance and your phone will get 6500 in quadrant lol or you can underclock it to 1ghz and stock governor to save a lot of battery power, i had my screen on for 6 hours and 30 minutes and still had 30% battery and the performance was still great
with titanium backup delete all the garbage they added to the phone
haldi15 said:
use chainfires autoroot and install adblock and setcpu and titanium backup
with setcpu you can change the governor to performance and your phone will get 6500 in quadrant lol or you can underclock it to 1ghz and stock governor to save a lot of battery power, i had my screen on for 6 hours and 30 minutes and still had 30% battery and the performance was still great
with titanium backup delete all the garbage they added to the phone
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Yeah. I decided to root with CF-Auto-Root and that was about as painless as could be. But I don't see/remember how to access CWM. Is that a separate download? CF's root guide doesn't seem to reference CWM.
Thanks much for your guidance.
auto root keeps everything stock it just roots the phone to get CWM you need to install it separately, i dont have it yet i just kept it stock
You can use the galaxy note2 toolbox to install CWM, but unless you're flashing alternative ROMS/KERNELS/MODS you dont need it.
To my knowledge, if you are rooted you cant get OTA updates normally. However if you just keep reading these forums or other tmonews sites, you'll here about the multiwindow updates and how to install. Alternatively, a dev will probably find out how to make a Tmo compatible ROM with the N7100 sw features built in before we get an update from Tmo...
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Thanks to all for all the knowledge. I was thinking of the CWM backup functions which let me do a complete restore via recovery mode. Is there a different solution for that these days?
doubledragon said:
Thanks to all for all the knowledge. I was thinking of the CWM backup functions which let me do a complete restore via recovery mode. Is there a different solution for that these days?
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CWM , TOOLKIT , TWRP your choice.
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-I'm totally new to this. I have this handset i want to root after reading all the advantages (custom roms, updates, overclocking). Is there an official guide here on xda to root? some info would be real helpful !
-Has anyone rooted their defy and enjoying it?
-also i want to know how i can fully restore my phone back if something happens with my phone to make it unrooted?
thx
Definitely possible; I used Z4Root. (The older version I used didn't have an Unroot option, but version 1.3 apparently does.) Just install the app, run it, tap Root, and it's done in seconds. It's nice not having Telenav and all those music downloading apps cluttering up the app drawer--for me, anyway, since I don't use them.
z4root is definitely the way to go if you're new, but there are guides on doing this manually.
To fully restore the phone you will need to install the custom recovery before making changes (other than root), booting with recovery and performing a nand backup. Just select the backup/restore option.
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Hello guys,
Just traded my Galaxy S2 for a GN and am new to this phone.
Since i allready have android 4.0.4 IMM76I is there any need to root this phone?
What will it add or improve.
Please enlighten me with your extensive knowledge
Thanks in advance.
I still haven't rooted mine, after spending a couple years rooting and ROMing my devices. Love this phone bone stock.
Of course you should. Root gives you admin access to your phone. Do you own a computer and not have full admin access? Same situation.
Its up to what you can imagine and you can change it with root. Tweaks, theme status bar, system folder access, hide nav buttons, on and on.
root is a definite...flashing roms though, thats not entirely necessary since stock is still awesome
You should root it because it's a Nexus
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The *only* reason I root is to install an ad blocker. The only reason I install custom ROMs is to get rid of bloatware. So for this phone, I rooted it almost immediately, but am still on stock ROM (Thanks, Google!)
Other people will give you other reasons why to root, but it'll all boil down to "I desperately want to [activity] but I can't if it's not rooted." If you have something like that, by all means root. Otherwise, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Because you can't use any of these apps properly without root:
Adfree
Adaway
Market Enabler
Quick Boot
Titanium Backup
Google Wallet (for those of us outside the U.S.)
Market unlocker
Light Flow
Call Recorder
Car Home
Chainfire3D
SetCPU
And, most importantly: StickMount
Hi guys, i recently bought a g3 and i have to say that it's a pretty stunning smartphone. However I hate the stock rom as i think that its heavy even for this phone. So (until the developers find a way to unlock the bootloader and we can flash custom roms) i want to root and debloat using the titanium backup app. But i have a few questions and i hope that someone will be kind enough to clarify some things for me.
1) What is the best method for root, purpledrake, stump or ioroot? I have updated to the latest ota v10h-eur-xx.
2) Is there a root counter? Will the root increase the counter and void the warranty?
3) After i successfully root my phone what option do i use in titanium backup, freeze or uninstall? And for which apps?
4) Can someone who has debloated his g3 post a screenshot of the running apps screen so i can see how much ram is being used and how much ram is free? I have around 450-500mb free ram in my stock phone, which i think its a small amount.
Thanks in advance
katsika said:
Hi guys, i recently bought a g3 and i have to say that it's a pretty stunning smartphone. However I hate the stock rom as i think that its heavy even for this phone. So (until the developers find a way to unlock the bootloader and we can flash custom roms) i want to root and debloat using the titanium backup app. But i have a few questions and i hope that someone will be kind enough to clarify some things for me.
1) What is the best method for root, purpledrake, stump or ioroot? I have updated to the latest ota v10h-eur-xx.
2) Is there a root counter? Will the root increase the counter and void the warranty?
3) After i successfully root my phone what option do i use in titanium backup, freeze or uninstall? And for which apps?
4) Can someone who has debloated his g3 post a screenshot of the running apps screen so i can see how much ram is being used and how much ram is free? I have around 450-500mb free ram in my stock phone, which i think its a small amount.
Thanks in advance
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1. I believe purpledrake works for all G3s, it's always on the top of the android development section for the G3, It's very easy to use and worked for me no problems on my D852.
2. Nope. Aslong as you flash back to stock there will be 0 signs you had rooted.
3. You can safely use the uninstall, unless you want/need to use that app later then you just freeze it and unfreeze when you use it. If you google LG G3 bloatware you can find some pretty good lists of apps you can remove, use caution doing so.
4. My phone is shut off right now so i can't snag a pic this very minute, mabye in an hour if you really want it, but for now when i say i'm running barebones i'm talkin only 3 running processes because my phone is extremely debloated & degoogled but my phone uses around 870mb used & 1.9gb available.
EDIT: Here, check post #7 it's a very informative but unfinshed bloatware list.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/help-bell-bloat-wont-uninstall-t2875615
I recently upgraded from a Galaxy S4. I had flashed a custom ROM, 4.3 Stock(ish)v06. The main reasons I loved it were for the built-in WiFi Tethering and the built-in ad blocking.
1) Is there such a ROM for the LG G3 with these two features? If not the tethering, the ad-blocking is much more important.
2) I have been out of ROM flashing for quite a while and only got back into it a year or so ago to root my Galaxy S4. To be able to do a full backup of my current ROM and everything in memory so that I can restore it completely, what do I need to do? Is it something like this:
a) Root it
b) Install a custom recovery (I liked Philz)
c) Use the custom recovery to do a full backup
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I recently upgraded from a Galaxy S4. I had flashed a custom ROM, 4.3 Stock(ish)v06. The main reasons I loved it were for the built-in WiFi Tethering and the built-in ad blocking.
1) Is there such a ROM for the LG G3 with these two features? If not the tethering, the ad-blocking is much more important.
2) I have been out of ROM flashing for quite a while and only got back into it a year or so ago to root my Galaxy S4. To be able to do a full backup of my current ROM and everything in memory so that I can restore it completely, what do I need to do? Is it something like this:
a) Root it
b) Install a custom recovery (I liked Philz)
c) Use the custom recovery to do a full backup
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Cyanogenmod 12 has USB tethering, hotspot, and Bluetooth tethering built-in. You can also just download a third party app for adblocking such as AdBlocker, which was made by the same people who made the ad blocker on computers that you're probably using right now.
To create a full backup:
I would recommend TWRP because it is the only one I'm familiar with and can't suggest others. First, root your phone, install SuperSu, and all that other stuff. Then install TWRP. The setup is really easy and I had it myself in minutes. Then just reboot into custom recovery and tap backup and do a full backup. It's that simple.
Thanks for the response.
Is it really that simple? I've been reading, and apparently no one can root the latest version of Android (v5.0.1) on the Sprint LG G3. Maybe I should have said what version came on the phone.
Everything I've been able to find says that I'd have to revert to an older version of Android first and *then* root it?
Dougmeister said:
Thanks for the response.
Is it really that simple? I've been reading, and apparently no one can root the latest version of Android (v5.0.1) on the Sprint LG G3. Maybe I should have said what version came on the phone.
Everything I've been able to find says that I'd have to revert to an older version of Android first and *then* root it?
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You would have to use the LG Flash Tool to downgrade your phone to an earlier version that can be rooted. The process itself will take 30 minutes Max, but downloading the files may take a while since they are more than a gig.
Saw your reply by chance. Quote me to ensure a response (it'll send me an email).
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Hi all
I've successfully rooted my last 3 phones, so I'm not a total noob, but I'm hardly a technophile.
I really, really don't want to trip KNOX and void my warranty. With that in mind:
My Sprint phone currently has software v. G920PVPU3BOL1. Sprint is nagging me to upgrade to Marshmallow "G920PVPS3CPD2/G920PSPT3CPD2/G920PVPS3CPD2" (yes, the first # is the same as the third)
Of those existing threads which advise downloading ODIN to root Marshmallow, I did not see mention of whether KNOX would be tripped.
So, with this all in mind, what is the safest way to root/unlock bootloader/install custom rom without tripping KNOX? Is the rooting process the only part that has the potential to trip the KNOX security?
Really just want to clean out the bloatware and activate a hotspot with a nice shiny, lean custom rom. (I'm up for suggestions here as well).
Thanks!
schleima said:
Hi all
I've successfully rooted my last 3 phones, so I'm not a total noob, but I'm hardly a technophile.
I really, really don't want to trip KNOX and void my warranty. With that in mind:
My Sprint phone currently has software v. G920PVPU3BOL1. Sprint is nagging me to upgrade to Marshmallow "G920PVPS3CPD2/G920PSPT3CPD2/G920PVPS3CPD2" (yes, the first # is the same as the third)
Of those existing threads which advise downloading ODIN to root Marshmallow, I did not see mention of whether KNOX would be tripped.
So, with this all in mind, what is the safest way to root/unlock bootloader/install custom rom without tripping KNOX? Is the rooting process the only part that has the potential to trip the KNOX security?
Really just want to clean out the bloatware and activate a hotspot with a nice shiny, lean custom rom. (I'm up for suggestions here as well).
Thanks!
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Well, upgrading to MM is the smartest thing you can do as ROMs, and kernels will be released for that firmware. Flashing anything non-samsung will trip knox no questions asked as that's just how samsung's software is written. If you wish to root, check my THREAD ON ROOTING. I've personally done two warranty claims my device (via Sprint) with no issues of voided warranty due to knox tripping.
X2 on knox tripped and still went to sprint and got a replacement no questions asked i reset it to stock before going in to sprint.
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Well, upgrading to MM is the smartest thing you can do as ROMs, and kernels will be released for that firmware. Flashing anything non-samsung will trip knox no questions asked as that's just how samsung's software is written. If you wish to root, check my THREAD ON ROOTING. I've personally done two warranty claims my device (via Sprint) with no issues of voided warranty due to knox tripping.
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Thanks very much for this. I downloaded the OTA marshmallow update and followed your root instructions. I'm now rooted successfully (Knox was tripped, but I'm realizing that was unavoidable except for the Ping Pong root pre-5.1.1 update)
OK, so now I'm rooted with Marshmallow and the custom TWRP recovery, and am looking around for a custom rom to give me accesas to my hotspot. I've done quite a lot of searching, and I'm not finding any.
I was about to flash Tyrannus Rom, until I realized it was for 920F. (I'm unsure if flashing that will brick me- though I did do a full nandroid backup, of course). I'm not finding any custom roms that claim to be compatible with 920P (Sprint). I'd be most grateful for any suggestions. I just want a lean, debloated rom- ideally with ad blocker and hotspot. I got spoiled with Dirty Unicorns on the Nexus 5... would love something comparable, but there doesn't seem to be much to pick from.
Thanks!
EDIT: Just saw your reference for another poster to check out this thread about enabling hotspot on rooted phones. Just did it, and it works great.
(Still would love any recommendations for a nice de-bloated, ad blocking custom rom.)
schleima said:
(Still would love any recommendations for a nice de-bloated, ad blocking custom rom.)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6/development/rom-t3356220
The "LDB" version is "Lightly De-Bloated." If you are like me, there are things that you will still want to remove; use Titanium Back Up for that.
I always install AdAway myself; can't recall if that is built in or not.
Enjoy and thank the devs.
koop1955 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6/development/rom-t3356220
The "LDB" version is "Lightly De-Bloated." If you are like me, there are things that you will still want to remove; use Titanium Back Up for that.
I always install AdAway myself; can't recall if that is built in or not.
Enjoy and thank the devs.
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Thanks very much for this. Checking it out right now.
Here's a dumb question. I bought Titanium Backup Pro a couple of years ago and for the life of me I couldn't figure out why it was preferable to a TWRP recovery backup. I see you mention its ability to remove embedded bloatware, and that's certainly useful. But in terms of the backup, does it do things a nandroid/recovery backup cannot? Why use Titanium when TWRP is so easy with a one swipe operation?
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Why use Titanium when TWRP is so easy with a one swipe operation?
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Okay, so I have all my apps installed. But a new version of the phone's OS comes out. Either an OTA that I need to install via ODIN or even a new ROM if I just want to be sure. Before install, I go into TiBU and run a batch operation to back up all user apps and data. Then I update my OS, re-load TiBU and have it restore all the apps. But keep the new OS. If I used a TWRP backup, it would take me back to the old OS.
Unlike TWRP, which backs up both apps and OS as a single file, TiBU is just restoring the apps.
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Okay, so I have all my apps installed. But a new version of the phone's OS comes out. Either an OTA that I need to install via ODIN or even a new ROM if I just want to be sure. Before install, I go into TiBU and run a batch operation to back up all user apps and data. Then I update my OS, re-load TiBU and have it restore all the apps. But keep the new OS. If I used a TWRP backup, it would take me back to the old OS.
Unlike TWRP, which backs up both apps and OS as a single file, TiBU is just restoring the apps.
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I can see how that would be useful if we're talking about downloaded play store apps/games/etc.
But, it seems like TiBU lists (in the backup/restore tab) loads of cryptic system files like "HwModuleTest 6.0.1" and "FIDO UAF Client 15.0.77". How do I know which to select for backup and which ones not to? Or do you just select everything and go nuts?
Or by "batch operation", are you saying you simply use the "schedule" tab to back everything up every time? I take it the way to do this would be to do a one-time "backup new user+system apps & newer versions" and then do a regular scheduled backup for "redo backups for modified data"? I take it these backup files will overwrite themselves so we're not filling our precious 32gb of space with multiple copies of the same files?
Also, how do you know which bloatware you can uninstall without crashing the OS?
Thanks again! I've been wondering these questions for years. Glad I'm finally asking them!
EDIT: Google answers all.
http://trendblog.net/make-backups-android-apps-titanium-backup/
1) Don't delete too much. TiBU also offers the option to freeze, not uninstall, which is a nice safety measure.
2) I go to Menu -> Batch actions -> Backup all user apps. I set my my maximum number of backups to 1 and let it back up periodically.
For Recovery there is also an option to create an Update.zip file (that you can flash in TWRP) with user apps and data.
Can I suggest that you start with this: http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-use-titanium-backup-286338/
I am big on the whole "Give a Man a Fish, and You Feed Him for a Day. Teach a Man To Fish, and You Feed Him for a Lifetime" philosophy.
schleima said:
I can see how that would be useful if we're talking about downloaded play store apps/games/etc.
But, it seems like TiBU lists (in the backup/restore tab) loads of cryptic system files like "HwModuleTest 6.0.1" and "FIDO UAF Client 15.0.77". How do I know which to select for backup and which ones not to? Or do you just select everything and go nuts?
Or by "batch operation", are you saying you simply use the "schedule" tab to back everything up every time? I take it the way to do this would be to do a one-time "backup new user+system apps & newer versions" and then do a regular scheduled backup for "redo backups for modified data"? I take it these backup files will overwrite themselves so we're not filling our precious 32gb of space with multiple copies of the same files?
Also, how do you know which bloatware you can uninstall without crashing the OS?
Thanks again! I've been wondering these questions for years. Glad I'm finally asking them!
EDIT: Google answers all.
http://trendblog.net/make-backups-android-apps-titanium-backup/
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I also use Tibu I also do this its not that complicated actually select apps and backup or restore hit then check mark to run. If u create the update.zip it just installes the app not data(unless im missing something) ive used Tibu for years #1 app bloatware melter.