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Some questions on rooting

This is my first android phone, so bear with me if anything I ask is obvious.
1. What are the limitations of temp root? Obviously it's not practical to install a custom ROM, but what about things like juice defender, changing the status bar skin, etc?
2. What are the security risks of rooting the phone? I've heard there are files that are only protected by permissions instead of encryption for example. Plus my linux experience makes me wary of the implied running as root.
3. If I root the phone, I assume I can back up non-market, paid apps like Launcher Pro to reload safely after rooting or installing a custom mod, right?
4. Aside from the status bar, setting the CPU, and being able to remove the pre-installed apps, what other benefits does root offer? (I bought my phone unlocked already)
Sent from my T-Mobile G2

OK, I'm sending this from my phone so bare with me if things aren't as crisp and percise.
Some of the advantages to rooting means you get permanent, (almost) unrestricted access to anything you want your phone to do. This means that you can flash things like kernels and radios for better performance, overclock the device, and do things such as make the little LED light up when you get a text message and wake up the phone by pressing the action button.
With you being temp rooted, that means once you reboot the phone you'll lose root. The only benifit is if you want to apply a mod that requires root to modify, but not root to run. Once you reboot, you loose root, but can keep the mod.
You're right in the regards that once you root you can modify files that can hurt the phone, but the keyword in that sentence is YOU. If you don't want to mod those files then don't. No one has a gun to your head, you know?
I was nervous about rooting my phone but following the guides I was able to easily do it with no trouble. Now that I'm rooted I'm running a custom rom, my own theme, custom settings, and am overclocked. Just because I can.
Also, use the search function next time. There's plenty of FAQs about rooting, pros and cons, stuff like that. Have fun with your phone.
Sent from my phone which was more than my rent

[Q] Holistic question about root on T889

Hi all. Super-happy T889 owner (since zero-day), and would be grateful for any advice with some basic questions. Been following and searching bot this and the N7100 "umbrella" thread, so thanks in advance for any help.
My experience with root is essentially CWM and Titanium Backup (no custom kernals/ROMs). I rooted my Note1 (int'l unlocked) but never ventured beyond 2.3.6 and LC1 because (i) it wasn't my primary phone and (ii) fear. My main phone on Verizon was also rooted, but more like rooted and potatoed. I switched from VZ to Tmo for the T889 and I love it. I kind of want to root even if just for CWM and Titanium, but the pure stock experience is stable and fast, and the bloatware from Tmo is not remotely close to VZ. And I'm fairly hopeful that we'll get the multi-window via OTA update.
Questions - Would root provide any fundamental performance improvements with CPU/GPU/memory usage/general kick-assery on this device?
Are others waiting to see how the multi-screen updates play out?
Am I being overly cautious because VZ made things so difficult?
Is it accurate that the "disable" capability in Jelly Bean provides some native ability to freeze applications?

doubledragon said:
Hi all. Super-happy T889 owner (since zero-day), and would be grateful for any advice with some basic questions. Been following and searching bot this and the N7100 "umbrella" thread, so thanks in advance for any help.
My experience with root is essentially CWM and Titanium Backup (no custom kernals/ROMs). I rooted my Note1 (int'l unlocked) but never ventured beyond 2.3.6 and LC1 because (i) it wasn't my primary phone and (ii) fear. My main phone on Verizon was also rooted, but more like rooted and potatoed. I switched from VZ to Tmo for the T889 and I love it. I kind of want to root even if just for CWM and Titanium, but the pure stock experience is stable and fast, and the bloatware from Tmo is not remotely close to VZ. And I'm fairly hopeful that we'll get the multi-window via OTA update.
Questions - Would root provide any fundamental performance improvements with CPU/GPU/memory usage/general kick-assery on this device?
Are others waiting to see how the multi-screen updates play out?
Am I being overly cautious because VZ made things so difficult?
Is it accurate that the "disable" capability in Jelly Bean provides some native ability to freeze applications?
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Root not do any performance , only allow root app do tweak and completely control your phone which without root you can't do ( rom tool box , titanium back up,ram manger app ...etc ).
If you try disable APP with native option come with phone, APP will come back running.( titanium backup can permenant disable,backup,restore,uninstall APP system app which without root can't do).
Over caution is good , if you go right direction then why should you worry for
If you only plan to root but keep close to stock as possible .you can try Chaifire auto root ( stock recovery include not custom CWM & remember never flash anything from stock recovery) .
About multi screen, I hope Developer will add into there custom rom.
Hope this help.

use chainfires autoroot and install adblock and setcpu and titanium backup
with setcpu you can change the governor to performance and your phone will get 6500 in quadrant lol or you can underclock it to 1ghz and stock governor to save a lot of battery power, i had my screen on for 6 hours and 30 minutes and still had 30% battery and the performance was still great
with titanium backup delete all the garbage they added to the phone

haldi15 said:
use chainfires autoroot and install adblock and setcpu and titanium backup
with setcpu you can change the governor to performance and your phone will get 6500 in quadrant lol or you can underclock it to 1ghz and stock governor to save a lot of battery power, i had my screen on for 6 hours and 30 minutes and still had 30% battery and the performance was still great
with titanium backup delete all the garbage they added to the phone
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Yeah. I decided to root with CF-Auto-Root and that was about as painless as could be. But I don't see/remember how to access CWM. Is that a separate download? CF's root guide doesn't seem to reference CWM.
Thanks much for your guidance.

auto root keeps everything stock it just roots the phone to get CWM you need to install it separately, i dont have it yet i just kept it stock

You can use the galaxy note2 toolbox to install CWM, but unless you're flashing alternative ROMS/KERNELS/MODS you dont need it.
To my knowledge, if you are rooted you cant get OTA updates normally. However if you just keep reading these forums or other tmonews sites, you'll here about the multiwindow updates and how to install. Alternatively, a dev will probably find out how to make a Tmo compatible ROM with the N7100 sw features built in before we get an update from Tmo...
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Thanks to all for all the knowledge. I was thinking of the CWM backup functions which let me do a complete restore via recovery mode. Is there a different solution for that these days?

doubledragon said:
Thanks to all for all the knowledge. I was thinking of the CWM backup functions which let me do a complete restore via recovery mode. Is there a different solution for that these days?
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CWM , TOOLKIT , TWRP your choice.

Android pay on rooted lgg4

I have a rooted lg g4 vs98613b
Is there a way to get android pay working fully or no. I did some research and no go for me

I have tried many different ways to get this to work. I've tried hiding root, removing SuperSU, and, many many McDoubles later, AP will only work on stock unrooted firmware.

Ya, one of the downsides to having root
I installed Xposed and tried hiding root, but no go. Still have not found a way to make it work while phone is rooted unfortunately.
I guess when my VZW phone eventually gets 6.0 I'll have to make a decision to keep root or upgrade and finally be able to use android pay....

I have a Nexus 6P and it looks like Google blocked it. We used to be able to use systemless root and remove some SU files, but now that doesn't work.

I didnt know i had replies in here. Ya it sucks not to have it and i love the nfc feature

AT&T Note 4 Temporary Root

I Finally Got Temporary Root On The AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (and yes it is SuperSU, bit it does require KingRoot)
I Did It

can you post the software info page with the build for verification of which device it's on?

Like you want the build number?

BTW here is how to do it
https://youtu.be/Xr_2LQimK9I

This is temporary root which means that once you reboot you're going to lose root... Sadly not much new...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

Meh, I know but it's better than nothing

Well if this is true it is new because it's on 5.1.1 and not 4.4.4. Going to give it a shot...
So I've tried twice now to root using Kingroot 4.8.0 on Android 5.1.1 and twice my phone has rebooted at the very end when I was trying to download SuperSUMe from the Playstore (did look like root was successful). Might have better luck if I factory reset my phone, but I'm not that interested in getting root.

I can verify that this indeed does provide a temp root on at&t note 4 v5.1.1
BUT! It causes the system to slow down and lag alot and the keyboard no longer works untill the phone is rebooted and when you reboot the samsung startup screen shows a padlock that says custom. So the guys at kingoroot have manged to find a small crack but it is to unstable to use at this time.
I did test out the root permissions on a few apps
1: es file explorer. (I was able to set rw permissions and move files from the internal to ext sd card and see root folders and files in the system)
2: lucky patcher (it was able to gain root and modify installed packages on the fly)
3: es task manager (i was able to acess the root features but changes did not stick)
My hope is maybe someone can learn from this and make the temp root more stable even if temporary (i kinda doubt it since gaining temp root seems to freak the system out causing glitches and stutters)

I obtain temporary root indeed the only I could achieve is, wipe bloatware and change font lol.... So far so good

Well remember, with Samsung changing the system on Android 5.1.1 now requiring a custom kernel to root one of their devices and knowing that AT&T locked the bootloader, this is the best we can get as of right now. Give the developers of KingRoot time because they have tried to root the note 4 without needing a custom kernel. I know it doesn't seem like a lot but give them time. We have wait this much for root. Why not wait a little bit longer for the root to stabilize?

Btw guys I rooted my note 4 on KingRoot v4.8.1, they haven't released this version on their website yet

And supersume pro probably won't work on this
I use the terminal emulator and a root script

DAKILLER29 said:
Well remember, with Samsung changing the system on Android 5.1.1 now requiring a custom kernel to root one of their devices and knowing that AT&T locked the bootloader, this is the best we can get as of right now. Give the developers of KingRoot time because they have tried to root the note 4 without needing a custom kernel. I know it doesn't seem like a lot but give them time. We have wait this much for root. Why not wait a little bit longer for the root to stabilize?
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There is a bounty regarding it, if they achieve completely root, 8,000 dollars are waiting for anyone achieving it

4.8.1 does stabalize things a little but i can guarantee just aboit that they are using a hole in the stock keyboard to obtain temp root i am going to experiment with non stock keyboards and see what happens from there. I also noticed that the phone gets hot when rooted

Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.

terryowen said:
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
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At the moment NO temp root is not stable enough to reliably run long enough to enable and keep enabled wifi hotspot unless your carrier has opened that option. Lucky for me wifi teathering is included in my plan with at&t

Any way to run Xposed with this?

So is it available for download somewhere? Or will it be soon?

terryowen said:
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
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After delete all the bloatware it allow me to use Hotspot without need foxfi but I'm in Verizon so I couldn't tell you if it applies the same in at&t but I'm sure one of the program installed is the one that blocks or prevents Hotspot to work properly

I used Kingroot 4.8.1 (after you install 4.8.0 and open the app it tells you to update it) on my N910A and it got to 25% and failed? Happened a few times

Is it worth to root your Samsung Galaxy S10+

Hello,
Yesterday, I successfully rooted my Samsung Galaxy S10+. But since I still had some questions about it, I went on and posted a thread here. User Spaceminer then pointed out that my original post was in the wrong subforum and linked me here. Naturally, I looked at some of the most popular posts in hopes to find answers to my questions. But what I found confused me more than it gave me answers.
Since 2014 with the Samsung Galaxy S5 I got used to rooting in order to disable bloatware, protect my data and customize my phone. I continued doing that with the S8+ until I recently got my hands on the S10. Now, my main reason for rooting are still the same; I want disable (not necessarily uninstall) bloatware, protect my privacy and customize my phone (such as changing the background of the dial when calling someone). But that thread made me wonder if it is even essential to root. I also found a similar post on reddit and most answers seem to agree that it is not necessary to root your phones.
Now, my situation is a bit different. For one, I already rooted my phone. Second, I don't care about warranty nor custom ROMs. But I do want to install a banking app. Also, it is a bit cumbersome to not only have to manually update your phone with every update but the booting requirements with the warning screen are also a bit annoying. So, my question is the following:
What are the advantages of rooting that are not possible without? I have 3 main concerns: Bloatware, Privacy and Customization.
The reason why I posted this in a separate threat is that I was not able to come to a definitive conclusion on my own and most discussion threads are over a year old. By now, the whole process of rooting and what is possible changed since then, so I want to get a more recent insight. I hope you can help me out.
With kind regards,
DasMalzbier

Tbh root is not needed, unless you want to use a custom rom. Most things are already in the android now.

Calyx os not make for samsung Galaxy series and 12 update also comes this year so i think rooting is unnecessary for s10 series

Root is 100%, absolutely necessary for using the phone. I cannot use any phone without it. Critical root-only capabilities:
full system backups (in twrp)
titanium backup
disable updates permanently (update ONLY when want to)
app freezers (app quarantine)
disable/remove bloatware
disable google play services/google play
automate/tasker
cf lumen
adblockers
wifi tether
busybox
superuser
ssh tunnel
update android to later version / install custom roms
optimize system
button mapper
custom theming / substratum
nav gestures
tidypanel
xposed
root explorer
app privacy customizations
3c all-in-one toolbox
more
Without root, the phone is unusable to me. I will never buy any phone without root capability. I am willing to go to different carriers just to get root on the device, or go to different manufacturers if root is blocked. For example, I will never buy a huawei device - they are locked.

I would like to say yes but I can't. the stock apps are very well designed.
The biggest concern is that custom Roms are released faster than modded apps.
For example I tried about ten GCAMs and all of them have a bug... and it becomes more complicated with Exynos.
OpenGcam is not worth samsung app.
Unable to get voice match to work.
Alarms that you can't set to a specific day with the google app.
And so on.
Root is useful when the manufacturer no longer updates the devices.
I regret having Root mine because I lost Samsung Pay and other things.

DemotionFR said:
I would like to say yes but I can't. the stock apps are very well designed.
The biggest concern is that custom Roms are released faster than modded apps.
For example I tried about ten GCAMs and all of them have a bug... and it becomes more complicated with Exynos.
OpenGcam is not worth samsung app.
Unable to get voice match to work.
Alarms that you can't set to a specific day with the google app.
And so on.
Root is useful when the manufacturer no longer updates the devices.
I regret having Root mine because I lost Samsung Pay and other things.
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The only one that would have any consequence of rooting is Samsung Pay.

xbt- said:
Root is 100%, absolutely necessary for using the phone. I cannot use any phone without it. Critical root-only capabilities:
full system backups (in twrp)
titanium backup
disable updates permanently (update ONLY when want to)
app freezers (app quarantine)
disable/remove bloatware
disable google play services/google play
automate/tasker
cf lumen
adblockers
wifi tether
busybox
superuser
ssh tunnel
update android to later version / install custom roms
optimize system
button mapper
custom theming / substratum
nav gestures
tidypanel
xposed
root explorer
app privacy customizations
3c all-in-one toolbox
more
Without root, the phone is unusable to me. I will never buy any phone without root capability. I am willing to go to different carriers just to get root on the device, or go to different manufacturers if root is blocked. For example, I will never buy a huawei device - they are locked.
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can you carrier /network unlock with the root >?

NickosD said:
Tbh root is not needed, unless you want to use a custom rom. Most things are already in the android now.
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No, even if you wanna use custom rom you don't need to root. Just pick the rom with the apps you want or just use the gapps packages you want, if want essential to work gapps then use pico or nano. If there is still something you want to remove and the romdoesn't allow, just use adb shell commands and thats it. Less issues with banks not working because of Magisk (root). I know Magisk has a feature to hide itself, change its name but depending on the app, the libs can be found and know that is Magisk, so for security purposes some apps don't work and some aren't even shown in the Google Play Store just because you rooted the device.

logandavid said:
maybe now the root is not needed but later down the road when your phone will get obsolete and newer android OS updates will be halted for S10+ then you'll be more attracted towards custom roms. Actually it is just personal preference.
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It's happening right now, I doubt S10+ will receive Android 13 and now just security and bug fix updates are being shipped by Samsung.

Haknor said:
It's happening right now, I doubt S10+ will receive Android 13 and now just security and bug fix updates are being shipped by Samsung.
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It won't get any new Android upgrades AFAIK.
But appart from tripping knox, what else do I lose if I unlock my bootloader? I read once, quite a while ago, that the battery is limited to 80% of its full capacity. Is that true?

io_gh0st said:
It won't get any new Android upgrades AFAIK.
But appart from tripping knox, what else do I lose if I unlock my bootloader? I read once, quite a while ago, that the battery is limited to 80% of its full capacity. Is that true?
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Depending on the version, you'll notice stock camera to be limited or not work as expected, secure folder, dual messenger either not working, it can trigger some banks or payment apps (especially if you root), no more ota updates (if you keep using stock rom), drm content can stop working, samsung pay, Play Store might limited the apps you see and so on... Not sure about the battery, for me unlocking the bootloader and switching to another rom made my battery last more than stock, but it depends on the rom, the device, it's not a rule of thumb.