I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.
I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?
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drizzl said:
I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.
I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?
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Builder's Choice...
Either External Storage can be Formatted as Internal Storage or it can not.. you would see the option under "Format".
drizzl said:
I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.
I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?
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I have set my card as internal storage and since then all my apps and data goes in the that card but older apps installed pre card insertion wont obviously.
sid21 said:
I have set my card as internal storage and since then all my apps and data goes in the that card but older apps installed pre card insertion wont obviously.
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How you did that?
Me Too.....
sid21 said:
I have set my card as internal storage and since then all my apps and data goes in the that card but older apps installed pre card insertion wont obviously.
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optionalmgrr.la said:
How you did that?
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On A Stock Device ?
I'd like to know how you've accomplished that feat as well..
RaiderWill said:
On A Stock Device ?
I'd like to know how you've accomplished that feat as well..
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Why is everone hell bent on this one?
Just go in settings>memory & storage>change default location to memory card..
Am i missing something?
Everything from this point goes into memory card..
This isnt rocket science..
Really...?
sid21 said:
Why is everone hell bent on this one?
Just go in settings>memory & storage>change default location to memory card..
Am i missing something?
Everything from this point goes into memory card..
This isnt rocket science..
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You're Joking Right ?
We've all seen that.
You inferred one could.. (As The Original Poster Drizzi Stated..) "MERGE" Internal & External Storage.
Otherwise known as: "Formatting Your External Card As Internal Storeage.
Which... (Again to use Drizzi's term because it's correct) would Merge and create *One* Gigantic Drive.
Not simply chosing Internal or External... :victory:
RaiderWill said:
You're Joking Right ?
We've all seen that.
You inferred one could.. (As The Original Poster Drizzi Stated..) "MERGE" Internal & External Storage.
Otherwise known as: "Formatting Your External Card As Internal Storeage.
Which... (Again to use Drizzi's term because it's correct) would Merge and create *One* Gigantic Drive.
Not simply chosing Internal or External... :victory:
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Ohh merging and using as one drive? Thats weird..
He just wants his apps to move into sd card or use memory card as the only source for every data storage..
Secondly why would anyone even want to use phone storage instead of memory card? Or even merge? Thats weird.. And i never saw any phone doing that ever in my life.. Samsung which gives transition the best to shift data from phone to storage also doesnt merge or use it as a whole.. Its either of them always..
Like i said earlier.. Theres no way to shift all the apps installed and data onto the memory card on honor 7x (only samsung can do that seamlessly) .. Since it was written on phone when it was the main storage at that time..
But when storage changed to memory card any new data will only be written on a memory card.. To free mobile storage.. Simply uninstall them and re install again to get it written on memory card this time..
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drizzl said:
I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage,I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?
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sid21 said:
Ohh merging and using as one drive? Thats weird..
He just wants his apps to move into sd card or use memory card as the only source for every data storage..
Secondly why would anyone even want to use phone storage instead of memory card? Or even merge? Thats weird.. And i never saw any phone doing that ever in my life.. Samsung which gives transition the best to shift data from phone to storage also doesnt merge or use it as a whole.. Its either of them always..
Like i said earlier.. Theres no way to shift all the apps installed and data onto the memory card on honor 7x (only samsung can do that seamlessly) .. Since it was written on phone when it was the main storage at that time..
But when storage changed to memory card any new data will only be written on a memory card.. To free mobile storage.. Simply uninstall them and re install again to get it written on memory card this time..
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I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid..
As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.
The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..
If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive..
Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel whatever..
That's what makes that option an inviting one..
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I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid..
As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.
The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..
If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive..
Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel whatever..
That's what makes that option an inviting one..
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How did you get the option to format as internal? I only have Eject and Format as options.
N/A...
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How did you get the option to format as internal? I only have Eject and Format as options.
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Sorry Drizzi...
That pic was for Sid's edification... that option does not exist for the Honor 7X..
RaiderWill said:
Sorry Drizzi...
That pic was for Sid's edification... that option does not exist for the Honor 7X..
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OK Thanks for the follow up anyway!
But...
drizzl said:
OK Thanks for the follow up anyway!
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Drizzi The Device Does Support OTG..
So that might be an additional option for you..
RaiderWill said:
I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid..
As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.
The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..
If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive..
Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel whatever..
That's what makes that option an inviting one..
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This technique is called adopted storage and is an AOSP feature since 7.0. I tried it also in my prior phone, but I would not recommend it any longer, even though it looks promising on the first sight. Unfortunately there are drawbacks:
- The technique behind is a daemon, that scans the internal storage and relocates larger file to the external card. You do not have any control which file gets relocated when. Nevertheless it is a transparent process.
- Since the data get copied asynchronously, copying large files to the device requires at least free space in the internal memory of the size of the largest new file. In case you are dealing with a number of video files, there might easily raise a storage size error message during copy even though your system tells you, that there should be enough memory available.
- The SDCard has to be prepared, which means, it has to get formatted in an encrypted way. Encrypted SDCards are the second best option out of a selection of two ... if you have an issue with it by whatever reason, there is no way to recover the data e.g. via a PC.
- If you have an issue with the card by whatever reason (occurs more often than you would expect, expecially when you are more often on low battery than expected) and since you have no control which data is located on that storage, you will have an unclear amount of corrupt data ... even if your "internal" storage (which is part of the bundle) may lead to some running apps, in worst case your available data is completely ruined.
- It requires newer custom recovery (AFAIK TWRP >= 3.1.x) to decrypt adopted storage.
- Last but not least: Even if you have an SD card with really fast read and write speed (usually known as U3), the real access speed (usually read speed) depends on several other facts like the HW interface to the sd card. In general it is much slower than access to the internal memory which I can confirm (e.g. by speed test apps).
So why would you want such an instable and performance impacting technology? On low-end phones with very little memory probably it would make sense, but the 7X has enough memory in any delivered option, regardles whether you take the smallest or the largest available sizing. In general it is a smartphone and not a NAS system in your pocket. So there is usually no need for the whole world in offline maps accompanied by 200k audiobooks and a dump of the whole music data from your preferred streaming service (even though it would be incredible cool).
Just my point of view ...
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drizzl said:
I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage,
I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive.
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RaiderWill said:
If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive..
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ZB2016 said:
This technique is called adopted storage and is an AOSP feature since 7.0. I tried it also in my prior phone, but I would not recommend it any longer, even though it looks promising on the first sight. Unfortunately there are drawbacks:
- The technique behind is a daemon, that scans the internal storage and relocates larger file to the external card. You do not have any control which file gets relocated when. Nevertheless it is a transparent process.
- Since the data get copied asynchronously, copying large files to the device requires at least free space in the internal memory of the size of the largest new file. In case you are dealing with a number of video files, there might easily raise a storage size error message during copy even though your system tells you, that there should be enough memory available.
- The SDCard has to be prepared, which means, it has to get formatted in an encrypted way. Encrypted SDCards are the second best option out of a selection of two ... if you have an issue with it by whatever reason, there is no way to recover the data e.g. via a PC.
- If you have an issue with the card by whatever reason (occurs more often than you would expect, expecially when you are more often on low battery than expected) and since you have no control which data is located on that storage, you will have an unclear amount of corrupt data ... even if your "internal" storage (which is part of the bundle) may lead to some running apps, in worst case your available data is completely ruined.
- It requires newer custom recovery (AFAIK TWRP >= 3.1.x) to decrypt adopted storage.
- Last but not least: Even if you have an SD card with really fast read and write speed (usually known as U3), the real access speed (usually read speed) depends on several other facts like the HW interface to the sd card. In general it is much slower than access to the internal memory which I can confirm (e.g. by speed test apps).
So why would you want such an instable and performance impacting technology? On low-end phones with very little memory probably it would make sense, but the 7X has enough memory in any delivered option, regardles whether you take the smallest or the largest available sizing. In general it is a smartphone and not a NAS system in your pocket. So there is usually no need for the whole world in offline maps accompanied by 200k audiobooks and a dump of the whole music data from your preferred streaming service (even though it would be incredible cool).
Just my point of view ...
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I'm Eh... Going To Step Aside On This Subject...
I'll let you 2 discuss the Finer Points.. Pros vs Cons etc... Enjoy. :angel:
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I'm Eh... Going To Step Aside On This Subject...
I'll let you 2 discuss the Finer Points.. Pros vs Cons etc... Enjoy. :angel:
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:crying:Why? I'd prefer more standpoints on it than just one or two, because it will give arguments about aspects, that are of interest for someone else. :good:
Final Answer...
ZB2016 said:
:crying:Why? I'd prefer more standpoints on it than just one or two, because it will give arguments about aspects, that are of interest for someone else. :good:
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Well Let's See...
Point 1) OP question was answered with a viable solution by Sid21.
Point 2) OP specific question was answered "Directly" by Raiderwill.
Point 3) Discussing the merits of Adopt Storage further based on how "You" personally feel about it for me, is pointless.
Point 4) I'm sure there are threads here on XDA that you can search out to continue why your point of view is relevant.
Point 5) I'm sure if the OP wants to continue a private discussion with you he knows how to contact you.
Well.. that's pretty much all "I" have to say about Adoptive Storage.
Now... if you want to start a thread about why you think Huawei is giving you false promises in regards to the EMUI 8.0 / OREO 8.0 / FACIAL RECOGNITION UNLOCK and PROJECT TREBLE updates... I'll be more than happy to indulge in your thread in regards to that conversation..
Because quite frankly... I disagree with you 100% in regards to the updates and in regards to rooting the 7X now.. it makes ZERO sense... and even you had to fork over money to fix your phone.. because Rooting got you in a hole...
Now, By All Means.. start a thread and let's discuss that.
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-oreo-emui-8-pro-9i-7x/
Hi there i am a honor 7x user the issue here is very critical suppose i am deleting a file of from my internal storage the file gets deleted but i dnt get the free space back like the internal storage is not being cleaned up
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Honor7x said:
Hi there i am a honor 7x user the issue here is very critical suppose i am deleting a file of from my internal storage the file gets deleted but i dnt get the free space back like the internal storage is not being cleaned up
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Sir.. Are You Saying You've Deleted System Files To Make More Space?
I hope this is not the case.
I hope.. you mean you deleted "Applications" and expected to get more space in return..
It's proportionately based... By that I mean, lets say you had a game installed that was 1.00 GB in size.. and you had 20 GB free.
If you uninstalled that 1.00 GB game.... you would now have 21 GB free..
Just in case you meant to say "RAM" and why have you not freed up more of it... People make the classic mistake thinking if they reomove every conceivable app from their device they are going to free up more RAM..
Not The Case.
RAM management will simply load something else into that allotted space...
Anyway (I digress) if you are still running stock (hopefully) all you have to do is preform a Factory Reset..:good: and you are right back where you started from.
If you are out of space.. I believe this device supports OTG.
Proper solution needed for same issue
Can someone pls give a solution for this problem asap
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Somehow my space on my phone is very low. I started getting the messages this morning. I wouldn't say that I have a load of applications. No more than I had on my HTC Magic...Is this too much for it to handle?
Here goes;
2010 World Cup
Air Control
AppAware
Astro
Barcode Scanner
BBC News
BeebPlayer
DishPointer Pro
Droidbox Free
Earth
Engadget
F1Android 2010
Facebook
Foursquare
Fring
Gesture Search
Google Sky Map
Hoccer
iGo
KeePassDroid
Listen
Lookout
MapDroyd
Maps
Nimbuzz
Pkt Auctions eBay
Qik
Shareprice
Shazaam
Sky News
Soccer Livescores
Torrent-fu
Twitroid
UK TV Guide
Wave Secure
Zedge
What are my options?
1. Clear cache;
2. Remove some apps;
3. Wait for root + custom ROMs with APPS2SD
I am now wondering ... What is this "cache" ?
Do we really need to clean it periodically?
It would be nice if there is a widget to clean this.
And honestly, I am not impressed with the storage ... 512 RAM seems a lot, but actually it is NOT
I have removed Google earth as it was taking up nearly 22MB which in the grand scheme of things seems to be load of space....
I never understand why they don't a minimum of 1gb internal storage on these devices for apps.
Jabbypants said:
I never understand why they don't a minimum of 1gb internal storage on these devices for apps.
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...or just allow for apps to be installed on a memory card from the first place
Seems like that they [Android OS] have realised that without doing so, they will not be able to have storage hungry things such as games to be installed.
36 as I counted, is normal IMO. But yeah, I really hope that you will be able to install applications on your SD card in the future. Not that I want more apps, but I want BETTER apps (which means they will be more MB's). I remember downloading games for the iPod touch that were over 100 MB. They were also off very high quality.
About not allowing installing apps to SD card: I think the reason why it is not allowed is the following.. if you can install something to your SD card, you can easily share it with other over the internet, right? That will mean people will start downloading apps the 'dirty' way! That's the only reason I see.
But Google is very smart and so far keeps giving everybody what they want. I am sure they will find a solution!
gogol said:
I am now wondering ... What is this "cache" ?
Do we really need to clean it periodically?
It would be nice if there is a widget to clean this.
And honestly, I am not impressed with the storage ... 512 RAM seems a lot, but actually it is NOT
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When you use apps, it stores some files in memory for quicker access later. Downside of it is that it takes-up space. Normally you would not want to clear cache that often, but if you're running out of space it helps.
Unfortunately you can only clear cache for each app one-by-one, but here's an app that might make the process easier http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.cerisierbleu.qac
You can not store any apps on your memory card!
I did not know this
I have low space as well!
I have a game which is 20MB, i do not want to delete it beacuse it is the best game I have.
Is there no way to put it on your memory card?
Raminder1992 said:
You can not store any apps on your memory card!
I did not know this
I have low space as well!
I have a game which is 20MB, i do not want to delete it beacuse it is the best game I have.
Is there no way to put it on your memory card?
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No, you can't put apps on memory card until we have root and get to use cool ROMs like CyanogenMod.
Or until Google adds official support for apps2sd, but I can bet you that root will come first.
the reason why google doesnt allow apps etc to be installed on SD cards is because of security of the system, meaning that through this it would be probably easier to root or hack the device and they re working on some kind of encryption for this, and it will be included in the future update,
someone from this forum posted it somewhere here in this section
I also got low memory on my G1 with Apps2sd. That's because every app stores stuff on the internal memory, the browser cache, google maps cache and so on. My experience showed me that these things are the real memory killer.
cez10 said:
the reason why google doesnt allow apps etc to be installed on SD cards is because of security of the system, meaning that through this it would be probably easier to root or hack the device and they re working on some kind of encryption for this, and it will be included in the future update,
someone from this forum posted it somewhere here in this section
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Google will encrypt that partition of the sdcard so it is secure. IIRC, support for something with the sd card was checked in recently, along with the support for the LED (for the nexus one). I imagine apps2sd is something all android devices will be seeing soon.
Personally, I would be screwed if I couldn't install apps to my sd card on my phone...as stated above, google earth takes up way too much space. Tack on a couple games and a dozen apps? Forget it.
deprecate said:
Google will encrypt that partition of the sdcard so it is secure. IIRC, support for something with the sd card was checked in recently, along with the support for the LED (for the nexus one). I imagine apps2sd is something all android devices will be seeing soon.
Personally, I would be screwed if I couldn't install apps to my sd card on my phone...as stated above, google earth takes up way too much space. Tack on a couple games and a dozen apps? Forget it.
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right. does that mean we wont be able to replace the sd cards unless we 'install' some additional files onto it?
and I think if google wont do this pretty quickly, droid might loose a vast amount of clients, because this is one of the reasons why iphone is so popular.
My mate just told me today he's willing to buy a new phone soon, and when I asked him what phone, he obviously said an iphone why do people always follow the crowd and buy anything that's most advertised :|
cez10 said:
the reason why google doesnt allow apps etc to be installed on SD cards is because of security of the system, meaning that through this it would be probably easier to root or hack the device and they re working on some kind of encryption for this, and it will be included in the future update,
someone from this forum posted it somewhere here in this section
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I thought it was due to the fact that the paid apps wouldn't be secure on the sd card, opening the gate further for app piracy and thus they were working on a solution to allow copy protection on the sd card.
I think this issue just turned me off the Desire and now I'm leaning towards the Nexus 1. I like to install plenty of apps so this could be a real issue for me
All android phones are the same, its just a matter of time before its sorted you can still get plenty of apps on, personally i can't see how anyone would need more than 10.
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right. does that mean we wont be able to replace the sd cards unless we 'install' some additional files onto it?
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not sure to be honest. I would assume that you will be able to mount your sd card and copy all of the contents off the secured/encrypted partition if your machine recognizes that partition type...then again, maybe you won't be able to.
If you upgrade sd cards, you may have to start all over with installing to the sd card. Good question.
and I think if google wont do this pretty quickly, droid might loose a vast amount of clients, because this is one of the reasons why iphone is so popular.
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the iphone is popular for lots of reasons; app support being at the top...but I would imagine the viral advertising and the "everyone has it" thing doesn't hurt.
Funnily enough, Android is almost on as many mobile devices as iphoneOS (according to an admob metric report). So the "everyone has it" argument is about to become a moot point.
My mate just told me today he's willing to buy a new phone soon, and when I asked him what phone, he obviously said an iphone why do people always follow the crowd and buy anything that's most advertised :|
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people want what they know, what they see, what they hear is the best...apple has done an amazing job doing this with their products.
Jabbypants said:
All android phones are the same, its just a matter of time before its sorted you can still get plenty of apps on, personally i can't see how anyone would need more than 10.
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more than 10 apps? Are you trolling?
Don't think i have even got 10 on mine atm and can't think i ever had more on any Android i had so far, hero/milestone.
Partially my fault for not researching jellybean...just read about how smooth it was & didnt expect them to take features away. I recall reading the article about the bs reason saying people confuse the internal & external memory. U would think they wouldve learned from wp7 when they took away sd support & started being like apple. I figured it was bs article. I wasnt even planning on buying a phone but my 4g slide tapped out after a few case less drops. I was just gonna buy another mytouch since theres not much of high end qwerty selection but gn2 note caught my eye.
I was sort of mad too, but around 10gb for apps has been plenty for me when I put everything else on external memory.
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I was sort of mad too, but around 10gb for apps has been plenty for me when I put everything else on external memory.
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Im deleting apps all the time to be able to get new one.
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There has to be a way around this...
It's not that people confuse the memory. The problem is that when an app is put onto your SD card, it cannot sync correctly with the operating system. Therefore, Google is doing what they can to keep users from putting apps onto their SD cards. Hence the lack of the SD slot in Nexus devices.
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It's not that people confuse the memory. The problem is that when an app is put onto your SD card, it cannot sync correctly with the operating system. Therefore, Google is doing what they can to keep users from putting apps onto their SD cards. Hence the lack of the SD slot in Nexus devices.
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u sound like a pr rep lol...im still a android newbie but Ive never have ne problems with apps relating to my sd. If a app/game works best or only on the phones memory most developers ive came have stated up front it even back to my wm days.
I'm pissed at this too. This app2sd and the "no more free tethering" thing is pushing me over the edge to go rooted.
I'll never buy a Nexus because of their flawed philosophy that Google has adopted:
1. Non removable battery.
2. No removable storage. "Everything belongs in the Cloud" I call BS!
I've got a 64 Gb SD card that's somewhat useless if I can't install apps on it. And since only the 16 Gb versions of the Note 2 are in circulation it's very disappointing.
The ship has sailed. Google hates external storage. Don't expect to ever see official OS support for it going forward. It's irritating but reality.
I agree this is total bs. I will not buy another phone that doesnt have external sd. Had an Htc one S and I hated it for that reason. (sense is terrible also)
Hope there's an easy fix soon since I use the GN2 as my table and smartphone now. Didn't have any issues before since I had most games on my N7 but now I'm out of room
There are work arounds. But real fix as of this date.
This is Samsung following Google wishes. I just hope the GN3 will have at least 64gb of internal storage. Then we can use the SD the way Google wants SD cards used. The worst part is that many apps that download media content into your device doesn't allow to save the media content within the extSdCard. That is really annoying. Without being able to use the extSdCard as a media content storage then what does Google expect we use SD cards for?
Samsung is part in fault too. Samsung is well known to put too little storage and main memory into PPC devices. I remember my Samsung Omnia i910. I had to move so many files from the main memory into the storage memory and even into SD card. Then I had to work on other files, like the registry, ini files, etc.. to point to the files I moved. All just to get more space within the main memory for more apps. Windows OS, even Windows Mobile, added major files within the Windows directory every time you install another app that took so much room within the smallest main memory. Samsung is doing similar with GN2. 10gb is barely any room now days with Android.
Samsung needs to lead the pack all the way. SD card, large screen and large capacity of removable battery, 1.6 quad-core, 2gb RAM is not enough to lead the pack all the way. They also need to lead the pack with 1080+ res screen and 64gb+ internal storage memory. I feel that Samsung miss the "leader of the pack" mark with GN2. Samsung needs to realize they are competing against other Androids as well as iPhone.
But the blame starts at Google on app2sd issue.
Switch internal to external(sdcard)
want to have more app storage space for your HD games and what not, here’s a simple App2SD script you can use to store all of your apps on your microSD card. *This will essentially swap your internal storage with your microSD card and allow you to use up to 64GB of space (if you use 64GB microSD card).This should work on all the Galaxy Note 2, test on international GT-N7100, T-Mobile SGH-T889, and Sprint SPH-L900.
Step 1. First, you will need a rooted Galaxy Note 2. *This will work on any custom ROMs except CM10 or AOKP.
Step 2. Second, I highly recommend you to format your microSD card before using this. *Also, after formatting you can copy the contents of your internal storage to your microSD card
Step 3. Download the script on your phone: downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyNote2/app2sdNote2
Step 4. Install and open Script Manager app on Play Store.
Step 5. Using Script Manager app, find the app2sd script on your microSD card and enable “SU” and “Boot”. Step 6. Reboot. *You should now see your microSD card used as internal storage and internal storage as microSD card.
Will this work with a rooted phone but with stock rom? How effective is this method?
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I've been running the storage swap script for a couple months now with no issues. I've used it on stock based roms kernel s along with custom ones as well. I'm using a 32GB fat 32 and am not sure if it supports exfat on 64 cards. Go look for it via search. It's in the sgs3 section somewhere. It's truly a lifesaver for us app/game hoarders
Ill look into that i have a 64gb card i would really like to put to use i only have 2gb available after only 4 games, do you have a link don where to get instructions and files?
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This really is more of an issue with app developers not allowing data to be stored on extsdcard. They would only need to pop up a box with options of were to store the large data files. It could look like this:
search device for sdcard implementation (/sdcard, /extsdcard, /sdacard/ext/, etc.)
pop-up box displays radio button with each storage location, really cool deb's would add option for custom location.
Set location to variable, use variable throughout program.
Just my 2 cents, I think that either this needs to occur or google require a set way of implementing internal/external SD cards.
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Root and install Directory Bind
I was disappointed too and only got 1gb left on my internal and have 64 gb almost unused mSD. So I finally decided to root my phone and install Directory Bind.
Working as intended now.
I have a post in the themes & apps forum with an app I found on the market that let's you store your game data onto an sd card.
It's called gl2sd, you can check in that forum (there's a direct link to it), or just search the market.
Not sure it supports exfat, but it's worth a quick look.
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This really is more of an issue with app developers not allowing data to be stored on extsdcard. They would only need to pop up a box with options of were to store the large data files. It could look like this:
search device for sdcard implementation (/sdcard, /extsdcard, /sdacard/ext/, etc.)
pop-up box displays radio button with each storage location, really cool deb's would add option for custom location.
Set location to variable, use variable throughout program.
Just my 2 cents, I think that either this needs to occur or google require a set way of implementing internal/external SD cards.
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Excellent point, friend! You always make good/useful comments and could always use more users like you.:highfive: A few minor points, I do miss move to sd option so the lack of kinda falls in line with this forced move to dropbox, cloud, lack of sd card etc. Oh sh!t don't get me started on the Nextel line these days. I have to say the manufacturers and Google are just as responsible as developers. They're all guilty really lol Besides those poor moves though, Android is doing great. I am so glad I preordered that G1 many moons ago. I guess its all who you ask I guess and sometimes we are stuck in our old ways... even us techies. Fo example, I was really stubborn about qwertys and surprisingly don't miss it. So who knows? It's either we're too stubborn to change or we don't like being told what to do.... maybe both Either way, the storage swap script works flawlessly once you set it up properly. As I mentioned earlier, not sure about 64 exfat but I'm sure you can switch it to fat 32 plus all you cm10 fans will have done this already. Hope that helps some...
I use this app to move big data files to the external sd https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp&hl=en
I also use this app to get around the "insufficient storage" error that sometimes occurs https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
I saw a very lengthy and complicated way to use an sdcard as the primary storage (involving scripts, etc). So here's my quick question. I have rooted my device and want t know, is there an app or something very simple I can follow so I can start installing apps onto my 64GB sdcard? Right now it's just a piece of plastic with nothing on it.
Any help would be appreciated!
I am using this app it works perfect with Samsung 64gb uhs1 sd just change dev access 179:17 https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiZXUuY29kbGFiLmludDJleHQiXQ..
Quick questions
Thank you for the reply, I have figured it out now
Interesting - let us know if it's got any gotchas, but it looks like it may do a lot of what the scripts I put together did.
Only gotcha is...
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Interesting - let us know if it's got any gotchas, but it looks like it may do a lot of what the scripts I put together did.
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The only "gotcha" that this program has is as follows: If you reboot your device or power it off, you have to reapply the "fix". It doesn't know how to modify the boot rom or whatever it's called to reapply the patch. No big deal since it's literally just two clicks. One to open the app, the other click to "Apply fix".
Hope this helps someone
For me, that'd be a big gotcha - I reboot mine all the time
I took a run at setting it up and I actually found it harder to be sure of what I was doing than when I wrote the scripts but that's really just down to taste.
One thing I saw in the writeup: if you do enable init.d (scripts that run at boot time) this app can create a script which does its magic at startup.
I have a sneaking suspicion that boot scripts are going to be available to everyone pretty soon.
Use SD Card as internal memory or RAM
You can use your SD Card as an internal memory storage space by using "Link2SD" app. There is another app known as "Swapper" (Swapper2 is the latest version), by using which you can use a segment of your SD Card as your RAM.
In both the cases you actually dedicate a portion of your SD Card to use as internal memory or RAM (whatever you desire).
NOTE: In both the cases, i.e for RAM and internal memory, you first have to repartition your SD Card and for that i must recommend you to use "MiniTool Partition Wizard" app.
For more info simply ask me
Thanks for the information. MPW needs the card out of the Note I found out. Makes sense.
Minitool Partition Wizard doesn't see my Note. What am I missing?
Windows 7 64bit, GT-N5110
Thanks everyone for your contributions,
using the external microSD as RAM and/or internal storage sounds great, but.... how does it perform in real life?
I mean we all know that swapping RAM and HDD in a desktop PC isn't gonna speed up things, right?
And although it's an sd card and not an HDD it is none the less a lot slower than the built in memory I would guess.
Does somebody have solid knowledge about it? Is there an impact on app loading speeds and background OS operations?
Thank you very much in advance,
Yoko
hi! i am currently using a 64gb sandisk micro sd as my external memory. can i ask if this app works with the note 8: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.codlab.int2ext#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiZXUuY29kbGFiLmludDJleHQiXQ
if it works, do i just follow the instructions on the description? if not, can someone give me a step by step guide? sorry, i'm new to android, it's my first time having a tablet actually, thanks!
Good sir.... that ist the app we are discussing since post #2
Regards,
Yoko
thanks! i'll try..i'll post again if i have any more questions!
Having been told by samsung customer services not to expect a larger memory device for a while, I'm jumping on this thread to explore my other options as I really had my heart set on the 32GB model. I had limited success when trying this with my ASUS Transformer but I didnt try very hard to make it work to be fair...
Once you have an app like link2sd up and running is there any limitation to what apps you can use it for? My plan is to use it with large games that would otherwise fill up the internal memory.
Are there any performance issues with doing this with large apps due to lower read and write times on a micro SD card vs the internal SD?
Are there any issues if you remove the external SD card when not running those apps (id like to review photos from my camera on my tablet while I am out and about)?
If the answer to these questions are all no, I'll likely order the 16GB tablet ASAP.
Just found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285221
Think I will go for FolderMount if I can confirm there are no issues using it with a rooted Note 8.0. Im not fussed about moving the APK files. I'm sure there will be enough room on the internal SD for those. I'll just move the data files.
I dont think there would be any benifit of using a partition of the SD card as SWAP (unless someone can correct me on this). It already has 2 GB and the SWAP will be slow due to the max read write speed of the microSD.
If all goes well I will be picking my tablet up on Sunday ready to start playing
You may want to check out this thread as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2276193
Worked wonders for me. Easy as pie.
Hi,
I have a HTC One X which I've had for nearly 2 years now. The space in the App Storage is taken up by the "Other" part by like 6.5GB. Is this normal? Plus, Now when I try to install any apps, it tells me there is no space left. I deleted some Apps I don't use and it's still just a bit left. I don't know why this is happening... I can't install any apps even if I remove every single app on my phone. Is there a way that I can at least find out what is inside that "Other" area as I found out that it isn't accessible. ALSO, is there a way where I could clear that Other area? I have never installed any ROMs or anything. All I need to find out is, how to clear the Other area.
Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
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Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
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My SD Internal Storage is fine (always at like 25GB) but my Phone Storage (8GB capacity) is always full. The least I've ever had it was 4.71Gb.
bestkid said:
My SD Internal Storage is fine (always at like 25GB) but my Phone Storage (8GB capacity) is always full. The least I've ever had it was 4.71Gb.
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Oops should learn to read My only suggestion is do a backup and then do a full wipe. Hopefully that should fix it.
Any other solution beside full wipe? I have the same problem and don't want to do the wipe....
Hi all,
I have a Galaxy S 10.5 (16GB) that I picked up in September of 2014. I love the thing but it's showing a weird issue. Any time I hit 500MB storage remaining, Google Play Store will no longer update apps. It gives me an insufficient storage notification. I can go in and clear the cache and everything is great - until I get to 500MB remaining again. Then I have to find more space again.
I've had a 64GB SD card installed in the device since I purchased it. I store music there and move apps that support it to the memory card. I was hoping that having the SD card would make the (insufficient) 16GB of storage liveable. It hasn't and the 500MB has only made it more challenging.
Has anyone seen this before and/or have any ideas what might be going on here.
Thanks!
I think that might be the limit of free space that must be available for the System to use. Think of it like a fail-safe approach to keep the tablet running smooth while it is constantly caching, deleting/creating temporary files, and allocating memory space in the background. Without sufficient free space available, it can't do those functions.
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I think that might be the limit of free space that must be available for the System to use. Think of it like a fail-safe approach to keep the tablet running smooth while it is constantly caching, deleting/creating temporary files, and allocating memory space in the background. Without sufficient free space available, it can't do those functions.
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Thanks. That seems reasonable. It's particularly annoying because the OS occupies almost 5GB of the 16GB I'm supposed to have. I'd rather Google/Samsung throw that 500MB into the 5GB they already have rather than tease me by telling me it's available but essentially unusable.
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
<rant> First and foremost I completely agree that Google's handling of external memory, or their lack of wanting to handle, or let users use microSD cards is wrong. The way it handles moving program data to external cards in kitkat is horrible and lollipop honestly is not much better, but at least users were determined to be sufficiently old and intelligent enough to be "allowed" to grant programs permission to manage our external data instead of only letting oem programs that ability. </rant>
With all that said the answer to your issue is even more simple then that. All Programs take up at minium 2x the space while you are updating them. You have the apk (the update) and the actual program existing at the same time. Not to mention that the programs tend to take up more space then apk's due to compression of resources and other things. Given those 2 things instead of trusting that the user won't download a 200MB update and seeing it is only 200MB put annother 200MB of music on the device while it is downloading causing issues google puts a free space cap.
I always thought that the system memory is included in that block of space the 4-5GB that the OS and bloat live in.
There HAS to be some spaced reserved for the OS or the tablet would crash. data is constantly written to the data partition which is part of the internal storage and this space is needed to run the device.
I have run into this issue myself, but its easily resolved by moving all unecessary stuff to the sd card - downloads, music, media, apps e.t.c.
All it takes is a bit of housekeeping every now and then. Download an app called All-in-One toolkit from play, it will find loads of junk files which you can safely delete to free a fair amount of space.
However I agree it was rather stingy of Samsung not to include 32gGb of internal storage which should be the minium for a so called flagship device.
Yeah, this issue of less than usable sdcard is also worrying me.
I had a Galaxy tab 8.9 (which came to the market in 2011) before this. It had 16gb and no SDcard. Storage was a pain.
AFAIR, also there is no Gmail syncing when below the limit. Imagine the frustration not getting your emails and trying to find something to delete.
I was hoping the SD card in the tab S would be more usable, but alas. At least Lollipop is slightly better, but only if the apps wanna use it. I get frustrated when dictionary app Merriam Webster for example stores its 100 megabytes data file in internal memory. Same with TED app videos.
And of course, current Rom and OS used almost double the storage for system as the tablet from 2011. Android 4.0.4. Apps have become bigger too.
Sent from my HTC One X+ (64g of internal memory, yeah!)
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At least Lollipop is slightly better, but only if the apps wanna use it. I get frustrated when dictionary app Merriam Webster for example stores its 100 megabytes data file in internal memory. Same with TED app videos.
And of course, current Rom and OS used almost double the storage for system as the tablet from 2011. Android 4.0.4. Apps have become bigger too.
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Precisely! The Samsung text-to-speech engine takes up at least 300MB of storage. Facebook consumes about 200MB. The Kindle app (sort of understandable since I have a lot of books) uses almost 200MB. Very little of any of that can be saved to my 60% empty SD card. Add in Newsstand and other similar apps and space is eaten up very quickly. Super annoying...
I'm now discovering this problem and it is really annoying. Is rooting the only way of getting round this? I don't want to do this but I don't think I have an option. I only have 500MB left on internal but 40GB on my 64GB micro sd.
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I'm now discovering this problem and it is really annoying.
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I'm not even sure that rooting would change much about this. With rooting you can remove some of the limitations in KK and Lp about writing to the external sd card...
But this will not get applications to spontaneously use the external sd card instead of the internal SD card, for their data.
I know there used to be tricks like a2sd, link2sd, and other variations... which were widespread 3-5 years ago. To make the device believe, through symlinks and crafted mounts, that an ext3 partition on the sdcard was a part of internal data. It was often cause for instability if executed less than perfectly.
I had this on my HTC Desire, a "flagship" phone from 5 years ago, with top of the line hardware: cpu , mem, screen, but with only 250mb for internal data.
I have not searched for it specifically but so far I've not seen anybody talking about those tricks for this device.
Disk Usage
This is a free app that shows you exactly where your storage space has gone. None of this nebulous "miscellaneous" nonsense. I was able to recover about my existing free space in extra space from stuff I didn't realize was still in my storage. While this is not a solution to not being able to store all your apps on an external card it might just help a few ppl get that extra space they need.
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Disk Usage
This is a free app that shows you exactly where your storage space has gone. None of this nebulous "miscellaneous" nonsense. I was able to recover about my existing free space in extra space from stuff I didn't realize was still in my storage. While this is not a solution to not being able to store all your apps on an external card it might just help a few ppl get that extra space they need.
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Thanks for that. Have downloaded that and had a look and I have nearly 5GB of OBB files! I think this is where my issue is, and I think the only way I can resolve this for myself is to root and use an app that transfers OBB files to SD.
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Thanks for that. Have downloaded that and had a look and I have nearly 5GB of OBB files! I think this is where my issue is, and I think the only way I can resolve this for myself is to root and use an app that transfers OBB files to SD.
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I hope that works out for you. I gave up on the idea of moving obb files that didn't want to move (way too much hassle for something that does not always work right) and instead decided to have less massive obb apps (games) installed at one time. I can only do one thing at a time anyways.