Just as the title says! I've been deleting apps and I have been unable to track down what it is. Every couple of days I'll get an amazing day and play services will only consume 1%. On bad days it's as high as 20-30%
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GMS Doze in Magisk app, it's a download app. It helps battery life on Google Play Services
smallsmx301 said:
Just as the title says! I've been deleting apps and I have been unable to track down what it is. Every couple of days I'll get an amazing day and play services will only consume 1%. On bad days it's as high as 20-30%
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Try my magisk module for enabling Doze on GMS,
Also, you can install AppOpsX to deny Keep Awake permission of play services
I run completely stock. No magisk
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smallsmx301 said:
I run completely stock. No magisk
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Run in Safe Mode for a couple of days to rule out your apps/settings. FDR?
v12xke said:
Run in Safe Mode for a couple of days to rule out your apps/settings. FDR?
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Yeah I did that. I'm pretty sure it's an app causing the issue
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smallsmx301 said:
Yeah I did that. I'm pretty sure it's an app causing the issue
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No ****e? One- uh, pretty sure? either it was gone or it was not. This should be black and white. Two- include what you have already tried in your OP so others don't waste their time trying to help you. --> " oh yeah man sorry, heh heh I did that already" and " oh, yeah I run completely stock, no Magisk".
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No ****e? One- uh, pretty sure? either it was gone or it was not. This should be black and white. Two- include what you have already tried in your OP so others don't waste their time trying to help you. --> " oh yeah man sorry, heh heh I did that already" and " oh, yeah I run completely stock, no Magisk".
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Thanks buddy. I was asking a general question. I've been doing this since the G1 days. I've been doing trial and error with apps and yes safe mode worked but after deleting FB messenger which I thought was the issue but after 2 days of glorious battery and no Google play issues it creeped back up. So here I am again deleting a handful more apps to remedy the situation. Before 8.1 everything was amazing. Since then it's been non stop on and off drain.
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smallsmx301 said:
Thanks buddy. I was asking a general question. I've been doing this since the G1 days. I've been doing trial and error with apps and yes safe mode worked but after deleting FB messenger which I thought was the issue but after 2 days of glorious battery and no Google play issues it creeped back up. So here I am again deleting a handful more apps to remedy the situation. Before 8.1 everything was amazing. Since then it's been non stop on and off drain.
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Would have been great to have all that in your OP, Mate. Including I'm not going to root. You're obviously not a rookie, and having been around so long, you should also know full well by now how to pose a proper question with the appropriate background. Just have a quick look at your OP again Mate. Best of luck.
Can't really help you if you are not rooted
By default, any stock android would eventually become a battery drainer.
You need to tame and have full control of your phone,
Best of luck though
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I have had great battery time on my Nexus 7 2013 stock 4.3. Then today it ran down faster than usual and when I looked at the battery stats I saw Google services using up a ridiculous 74%! Never seen that before. I was on YouTube for a while. Would that be Google services?
Anderson2 said:
I have had great battery time on my Nexus 7 2013 stock 4.3. Then today it ran down faster than usual and when I looked at the battery stats I saw Google services using up a ridiculous 74%! Never seen that before. I was on YouTube for a while. Would that be Google services?
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i disable google currents. don't even use it. or you can disable sync on currents.
I've seen this post in all of my devices forums...
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GTX420 said:
i disable google currents. don't even use it. or you can disable sync on currents.
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Thanks.
Just disabled it. I never use it anyway. Hope it doesn't break something else because it's a "system app".
Anderson2 said:
Thanks.
Just disabled it. I never use it anyway. Hope it doesn't break something else because it's a "system app".
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Disabling it also lowers the currents running to your CPU and GPU which can influence the system's stability. Hope your N7 will remain unaffected.
I have the same problem, only restarting fixed it for me. (maybe the new update will solve the issue) - and I always have currents disabled.
Pfeffernuss said:
Disabling it also lowers the currents running to your CPU and GPU which can influence the system's stability. Hope your N7 will remain unaffected.
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What are you talking about? Google Currents is a news app.
iPWNtehNOOB said:
What are you talking about? Google Currents is a news app.
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No kidding, now really!? :angel:
Anderson2 said:
I have had great battery time on my Nexus 7 2013 stock 4.3. Then today it ran down faster than usual and when I looked at the battery stats I saw Google services using up a ridiculous 74%! Never seen that before. I was on YouTube for a while. Would that be Google services?
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Try turning Google Now off. It can drain your battery and use up resources, especially if it's always running in the background.
Lionex1 said:
Try turning Google Now off. It can drain your battery and use up resources, especially if it's always running in the background.
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Found it. Please ignore.
(Can't find Google now listed among my apps. Is it the same as Google search? When When you say turn it off, do you mean disable?
Thanks.)
I've had my g3 since it was released for pre-order. The past two days the device has been running really slow, everything I do it seems there's a second or two delay especially with text input, its just stock rooted with xposed and greenify, titanium used to freeze all the bloat but that was day 1, just yesterday I was messaging someone on Facebook and there was a delay in typing a message, haven't added many apps on the device either, also my phone doesn't get hot and I don't leave my brightness no more than 40%, usually at auto 0%, I really don't want to factory reset but I might have to seeing its to slow to use yet there isn't really much running on the device. Any help would be appreciated thanks
Also in dev options animations are turned off
mine was running like that when using the chainfire supersu app, i was also getting bad battery life due to a wakelock related to it. i switched to the chainsdd app and now the phone is super smooth and the battery life is greatly improved.
ymmv
adiliyo said:
mine was running like that when using the chainfire supersu app, i was also getting bad battery life due to a wakelock related to it. i switched to the chainsdd app and now the phone is super smooth and the battery life is greatly improved.
ymmv
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I also got a parsing error when trying to install g3 tweaks box if it means anything, might try a factory reset or an exchange, thankfully I have a nexus 7 2013 but it's a piece due to the plagued random reboot problem
socalforlife said:
I also got a parsing error when trying to install g3 tweaks box if it means anything, might try a factory reset or an exchange, thankfully I have a nexus 7 2013 but it's a piece due to the plagued random reboot problem
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that's odd, tweaks box installed without a hitch for me.
what method did you use to root?
adiliyo said:
that's odd, tweaks box installed without a hitch for me.
what method did you use to root?
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It was the ioroot I believe
socalforlife said:
It was the ioroot I believe
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i used towel root for what it's worth. also, if you installed anything around when it started to bog down, maybe uninstall recent apps and see if that helps
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i used towel root for what it's worth. also, if you installed anything around when it started to bog down, maybe uninstall recent apps and see if that helps
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Parsing error was trying to install tweaksbox 1.1 beta btw, so I ran antutu and got 32k
socalforlife said:
Parsing error was trying to install tweaksbox 1.1 beta btw, so I ran antutu and got 32k
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i'm on the 1.1 beta, installed fine. i haven't used a benchmarking app in a long time, but that's a pretty normal number from what other reviewers have gotten on this phone
adiliyo said:
i'm on the 1.1 beta, installed fine. i haven't used a benchmarking app in a long time, but that's a pretty normal number from what other reviewers have gotten on this phone
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Off-topic does your nexus 7 do random reboots?
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Off-topic does your nexus 7 do random reboots?
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no, it's been really stable since i got it. it's on the L preview right now and is running like a champ. had it on PA before that
How do I kill this? Need a root?
Because those are killing my battery; more battery used than the screen itself...
toncij said:
How do I kill this? Need a root?
Because those are killing my battery; more battery used than the screen itself...
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Yes you'd need to have root.
You could then Greenify it, although certain things that depend on it may not work properly or It will always just fail to hibernate most of the time.
You could also grab App Ops from the Play Store and set it so that GPS cannot keep your phone Awake.
You could also disable CheckIn Services for it as well using AutoRun manager.
Keep in mind.... Things may not work properly after doing any of these.
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I know the implications, but since last update that thing is annoyingly hungry.
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I know the implications, but since last update that thing is annoyingly hungry.
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Well if you're not rooted yet grab Stump Root, super easy. Then try one of those methods.
Do you use Better Battery Stats by any chance? I'm wondering how much it's keeping your phone Awake and what App is the culprit.
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@toncij
Check out this xposed module
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54953199
May be worth looking into
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Mistertac said:
Well if you're not rooted yet grab Stump Root, super easy. Then try one of those methods.
Do you use Better Battery Stats by any chance? I'm wondering how much it's keeping your phone Awake and what App is the culprit.
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@toncij
Check out this xposed module
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54953199
May be worth looking into
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No.
This is after an hour of running without location feature. It has finally pushed Google services back a bit after the screen.
Before I've had Google services way ahead of the screen, which is downright insane.
toncij said:
No.
This is after an hour of running without location feature. It has finally pushed Google services back a bit after the screen.
Before I've had Google services way ahead of the screen, which is downright insane.
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OK well I'd suggest rooting your phone. Then use Greenify, set your WiFi Always Scanning to OFF, set location services to Battery Saving Mode if possible, try that Xposed Module I posted above, then you could also look into those other suggestions I listed above if you still weren't happy.
What are you typically getting for Battery life though??
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Mistertac said:
OK well I'd suggest rooting your phone. Then use Greenify, set your WiFi Always Scanning to OFF, set location services to Battery Saving Mode if possible, try that Xposed Module I posted above, then you could also look into those other suggestions I listed above if you still weren't happy.
What are you typically getting for Battery life though??
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I'm a dev so know pretty much most of how to optimize it, just want sure if there is any way around this energy hog.
Thanks for ideas. So far it seems turning off location service really stopped Google services from eating my battery. Don't have time for deeper analysis, but if that helps, fine, don't really use much loc. stuff anyway.
Mistertac said:
OK well I'd suggest rooting your phone. Then use Greenify, set your WiFi Always Scanning to OFF, set location services to Battery Saving Mode if possible, try that Xposed Module I posted above, then you could also look into those other suggestions I listed above if you still weren't happy.
What are you typically getting for Battery life though??
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Seems location didn't help. This service from hell is really something that needs to be addressed ASAP.
Is it possible to safely root G3 without triggering any kind of counters and to be able to unroot?
I was usually getting 5h from it, but this cuts it more than in half. Just over night without any real usage I've lost [Google services sucked] 29% of battery life!
Use stumproot to root th3 d3vice its amazing and very easy and no pc needed at all
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Seems location didn't help. This service from hell is really something that needs to be addressed ASAP.
Is it possible to safely root G3 without triggering any kind of counters and to be able to unroot?
I was usually getting 5h from it, but this cuts it more than in half. Just over night without any real usage I've lost [Google services sucked] 29% of battery life!
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I'm petty sure you're good. From what I've read on here these LGs are not like Samsung phones that have a counter or fuse that gets tripped. And I've also read that once you flash the TOT file and go back to stock there's no trace.
I'd Root then use Better Battery Stats to see what your Partial WakeLocks, and Alarms are exactly. Could use WakeLock Detector app as well.
There's many things it could be just easier to see by using that method.
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deadlyheart4u said:
Use stumproot to root th3 d3vice its amazing and very easy and no pc needed at all
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SR does not work on my D855 3/32 V10h-EUR-XX.
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I'm petty sure you're good. From what I've read on here these LGs are not like Samsung phones that have a counter or fuse that gets tripped. And I've also read that once you flash the TOT file and go back to stock there's no trace.
I'd Root then use Better Battery Stats to see what your Partial WakeLocks, and Alarms are exactly. Could use WakeLock Detector app as well.
There's many things it could be just easier to see by using that method.
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Will try to see what can be done...
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No.
This is after an hour of running without location feature. It has finally pushed Google services back a bit after the screen.
Before I've had Google services way ahead of the screen, which is downright insane.
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It's not necessarily insane, depends on how much you use the screen....
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toncij said:
SR does not work on my D855 3/32 V10h-EUR-XX.
Will try to see what can be done...
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Stump works for all G3s. And mostly all LGs just about. If for some reason you have a G3 variant that hasn't been rooted yet... You use the Bruteforcer part of stump and it will Root.
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Stump works for all G3s. And mostly all LGs just about. If for some reason you have a G3 variant that hasn't been rooted yet... You use the Bruteforcer part of stump and it will Root.
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You were correct. On my 2nd try it offered bruteforce and it worked. Thanks. Will now proceed with trying to find the root (no pun intended) of this issue...
toncij said:
You were correct. On my 2nd try it offered bruteforce and it worked. Thanks. Will now proceed with trying to find the root (no pun intended) of this issue...
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If you need anymore help just post screen shots from Better Battery Stats or WakeLock Detector.
Do you use the Google Launcher along with "OK Google " by any chance? Google Search etc....
I used that Launcher for maybe 2 days and after seeing Google Play Services chew up so much Battery I ditched it.
Too many "Google things" running is just not good in my opinion.
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If you need anymore help just post screen shots from Better Battery Stats or WakeLock Detector.
Do you use the Google Launcher along with "OK Google " by any chance? Google Search etc....
I used that Launcher for maybe 2 days and after seeing Google Play Services chew up so much Battery I ditched it.
Too many "Google things" running is just not good in my opinion.
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Haven't really coded much or fiddled with system since HTC Desire and Android 2.2. Just used SGS3 etc. so I'm a bit rusty with it. Anyway, it seems that Google puts a lot of services there with no settings like wake intervals and such. Sounds bad enough.
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Haven't really coded much or fiddled with system since HTC Desire and Android 2.2. Just used SGS3 etc. so I'm a bit rusty with it. Anyway, it seems that Google puts a lot of services there with no settings like wake intervals and such. Sounds bad enough.
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Google can be a real pain for sure. Check out this xposed module http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54953199
And possibly grab AutoRun Manager or ROM Toolbox has a Auto Run Manager/Start Up Manager too. With that you can disable CheckIn Services for Google Services Framework and Google Play Services.
Just a couple ideas.... Wish you luck my friend
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Mistertac said:
If you need anymore help just post screen shots from Better Battery Stats or WakeLock Detector.
Do you use the Google Launcher along with "OK Google " by any chance? Google Search etc....
I used that Launcher for maybe 2 days and after seeing Google Play Services chew up so much Battery I ditched it.
Too many "Google things" running is just not good in my opinion.
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Nope, stock only.
Lennyuk said:
It's not necessarily insane, depends on how much you use the screen....
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Well, correct, yes. But I'm not really satisfied with Google's ability to drain my battery from 89% to 63% over night. Just don't like it. My first try at G3 did not have this problem, but that was weeks ago.
Mistertac said:
Google can be a real pain for sure. Check out this xposed module http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54953199
And possibly grab AutoRun Manager or ROM Toolbox has a Auto Run Manager/Start Up Manager too. With that you can disable CheckIn Services for Google Services Framework and Google Play Services.
Just a couple ideas.... Wish you luck my friend
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Will try that too... This is annoyingly long work just to prevent battery drain. Ahh, Android...
There's more ideas for Battery life in my thread here too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54342046
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toncij said:
Seems location didn't help. This service from hell is really something that needs to be addressed ASAP.
Is it possible to safely root G3 without triggering any kind of counters and to be able to unroot?
I was usually getting 5h from it, but this cuts it more than in half. Just over night without any real usage I've lost [Google services sucked] 29% of battery life!
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I'd recommend that u reflash with factory reset (CSE flash). You have a big problem there since looking at your pictures that service is keeping your phone awake almost the same time as the runtime is. Don't bother too much with greenify or WLD cause it will just show you that service generating wakelocks and most probably a service under it called NlpCollector Wakelock. Even with location turned on and location reporting and history turned on, you shouldn't have as much. Google service should be in 5-10% zone in battery usage. You can also try with Force stopping the service and clearing data, that might help too but i know there were cases play store wouldn't work as intended after that meaning you would have to reflash anyway after that.
I have not done the Nougat update yet and was wondering if anyone can comment on how the new doze features do, or do not, possibly interfere with apps that use GPS to track activities. These would be apps like Strava, RideWIthGPS, RunKeeper, etc. I use RideWithGPS and simply start it, put my phone in my pocket and let it track me with screen off the whole time. My understanding of the new doze is that it might kick in and stop the tracking whereas MM doze does not because of motion. So if anyone on the official (not beta) 7 uses these kinds of apps with screen off all the time I'd appreciate it if you could comment. Does doze interfere and stop the tracking? Did you need to exclude the app from battery optimization? Other issues/comments?
I'm not rooted (and not looking to do so) so experience/solutions/comments that refer to rooted options are interesting but aren't really what I'm after.
Tracking apps will not be affected.
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PiousInquisitor said:
Tracking apps will not be affected.
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Have you used any on 7? I tend to think they will be ok too but an looking for real world feedback.
adobeman said:
Have you used any on 7? I tend to think they will be ok too but an looking for real world feedback.
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I haven't. I use a GPS watch now that syncs with Strava so I have no need to use it on my phone.
It worked fine on MM which also used doze (though a less aggressive version). If it were an issue tracking apps would be getting terrible ratings on the Google Play Store right now. If you really want me to test it I can run one of the apps for you on my ride tomorrow.
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Wow. That's a really kind offer. If you track it with ridewithgps that would be awesome. It's free but you will probably need to set up an account. So I understand if you don't want to do that.
Enjoy the ride!
adobeman said:
Wow. That's a really kind offer. If you track it with ridewithgps that would be awesome. It's free but you will probably need to set up an account. So I understand if you don't want to do that.
Enjoy the ride!
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This one?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ridewithgps.mobile
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Yup. That's the one. It doesn't have all the social aspects of Strava but it's been solid for my needs. Thanks again.
adobeman said:
Yup. That's the one. It doesn't have all the social aspects of Strava but it's been solid for my needs. Thanks again.
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Rode with the Ride with GPS app and it went well. I don't know if the phone ever dozed. In fact the battery stats show it was awake the whole ride. I doubt that the app will allow the phone to sleep or doze.
Thanks. I appreciate your doing this for me.
I've noticed idle battery drain on my phone and found out that it was caused by an app (it was the Shopee app), so I tried to prevent it from running in background, like limiting its permissions, turning off notifications both in app and phone settings, restricting background activity in Battery Saver.
But after sometime it happens again. I checked in App behavior and it says the app was started by Google Play services.
What does this mean and can I stop it permanently?
If you don't use it, why keep it !
Just uninstall it.
laid1995 said:
If you don't use it, why keep it !
Just uninstall it.
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I have never said that I don't use it, can't you read? It's a shopping app and I only open it when I look for something to buy. Do you use your app 24/7???
Saphira209 said:
I have never said that I don't use it, can't you read? It's a shopping app and I only open it when I look for something to buy. Do you use your app 24/7???
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Sorry, you not mentioning that u use it casually, so figured u don't use it. Still, I said "if" though.
Then try to uninstall and install it. Maybe it's the version you have.
If you have root. There are plenty of apps that can put it to sleep.
" rooting "
Hmmm, I know that Google Play Services can be launched by many apps to use any kind of sensors and APIs, but never heard of the opposite... maybe it's the case and is bad translated? In that case, try the BBS app and check what sensors are used
Saphira209 said:
I have never said that I don't use it, can't you read? It's a shopping app and I only open it when I look for something to buy. Do you use your app 24/7???
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Watch your tone. No one here is obliged to help you so you might as well start talking politely.
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Watch your tone. No one here is obliged to help you so you might as well start talking politely.
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Oh sorry if my words hurt you.
Now, I was asking about GP services and strange app behavior, I want to know if someone had any similar experience. If I could just uninstall then I wouldn't waste your precious time by making this thread would I? That's just throwing the problem away, not solving it.
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Oh sorry if my words hurt you.
Now, I was asking about GP services and strange app behavior, I want to know if someone had any similar experience. If I could just uninstall then I wouldn't waste your precious time by making this thread would I? That's just throwing the problem away, not solving it.
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There are some apps that can disable other apps to auto-start without root, but may need adb commands if running on non-root device:
Brevent
Ice Box
SuperFreezZ App stopper
Saphira209 said:
Oh sorry if my words hurt you.
Now, I was asking about GP services and strange app behavior, I want to know if someone had any similar experience. If I could just uninstall then I wouldn't waste your precious time by making this thread would I? That's just throwing the problem away, not solving it.
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Trash app, trash behavior.
Yeah uninstalling pretty much gets rid of the cause. Wonder what else it's doing?
Solving? That's how it was designed to behave... badly. I would have ditched it the first day.
Or
Disable Google play Services when not needed.
Arguing with members trying to help you won't further you along
pl1992aw said:
There are some apps that can disable other apps to auto-start without root, but may need adb commands if running on non-root device:
Brevent
Ice Box
SuperFreezZ App stopper
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Thank you, I do have magisk installed, I'll try Ice Box later and see how it works.
About the other 2, from their descriptions I think what they do is force closing unused apps automatically for you is that right? Would it be different from force closing manually? Because I did try to do that but GP services was still able to launch the app occasionally as reported in App behavior.
First time noticing play services could do this so I was really curious lol, idk if it was google services or the app developer can make it like that?
Saphira209 said:
Thank you, I do have magisk installed, I'll try Ice Box later and see how it works.
About the other 2, from their descriptions I think what they do is force closing unused apps automatically for you is that right? Would it be different from force closing manually? Because I did try to do that but GP services was still able to launch the app occasionally as reported in App behavior.
First time noticing play services could do this so I was really curious lol, idk if it was google services or the app developer can make it like that?
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Brevent prevent apps auto-start, and auto-hybernate/auto-close the app when inactive of the time set in the brevent settings.
SuperFreezZ is as you described.
The following is all just guessing:
The reason that you see GP service launch Shopee app is probably Shopee app designed it.
The culprit is more likely Shopee app. It might have designed to wakeup / auto-start when there is change of the system in some conditions, which has some links to GP service.