Preinstalled Apps - Sony Xperia XA1 Questions & Answers

Hello guys,
I think about getting this phone. But first I've got some questions:
-Is there the Spotify app preinstalled? If yes, is it fully removeable? I want to use this spotifymod and it doesnt work with preinstalled Spotifyversion
- Is there much bloatware preinstalled? Can it only be deactivated or can it be fully uninstalled?
Thanks for your answers!
Greetings from Germany.

I got my phone direct from Vodafone as part of a deal they were offering me to stop me from changing provider. (I had no intention of changing provider at all but I wasn't telling them that...). I don't have Spotify on mine. Vodafone have added a few apps of their own but I doubt they would have removed it.
You can remove pre-installed apps anyway, if you don't want them. You need to be rooted though. Titanium Backup is a great app for uninstalling them if you are.

I can confirm that my XA1 (G3121) has Spotify preinstalled out of the box and ISN'T removable as it is a system app.

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[Q] How to get rid of worthless built in apps?

This may seem like a stupid question, but ever since this recent update my phone has a lot of worthless app's running in the background I can't seem to delete. App's such as; My Verizon mobile, Skype mobile, city ID (still there), news, amazon MP3, ect..
Is there an easy way to get rid of a huge chunck of these considering I never use most of them?
Thank you
The best way I can advise is to root and then use the Virtuous rom in the development forum. It is as sweet as it gets.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765447
Jstink101 said:
This may seem like a stupid question, but ever since this recent update my phone has a lot of worthless app's running in the background I can't seem to delete. App's such as; My Verizon mobile, Skype mobile, city ID (still there), news, amazon MP3, ect..
Is there an easy way to get rid of a huge chunck of these considering I never use most of them?
Thank you
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710009
If you're rooted you can also download Titanium Backup and uninstall with that.
you can also use ADB and remove the .apks from the app folder. I also use startup manager to handle which tasks are running upon boot that aren't necessary (fm radio, maps, stock mail/message)

Is it ok to delete the bloatware now?

Now that we have 2.3.4 that lets us delete the bloatware, is it ok to delete it and still be able to update?
My bloat is all listed as system apps, so the only way I can remove is via titanium backup. I have backed everything up, uninstalled it. When its time to update I will restore, update and then remove again.
gbesta said:
My bloat is all listed as system apps, so the only way I can remove is via titanium backup. I have backed everything up, uninstalled it. When its time to update I will restore, update and then remove again.
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Did you do this with Titanium Free or have you paid for it?
Can you explain exactly the process? Do you backup, then freeze? Freeze then backup? It confuses me...
I want to go through and remove the bloat, but I want to do it "right".
danieljamie said:
Did you do this with Titanium Free or have you paid for it?
Can you explain exactly the process? Do you backup, then freeze? Freeze then backup? It confuses me...
I want to go through and remove the bloat, but I want to do it "right".
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If you freeze, you don't have to backup. Freezing only makes the app not run, it doesn't uninstall...
Just be carefull what you delete! You will get alot of force closes there's a thread on this.. If you got ur phone running right you could even move system apps without any problems.. Just be sure to BACKUP ur ****
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You can only Freeze apps with the paid version of Ti Backup, but I would personally recommend it. Deleting stuff can be bad news if you don't know what you're deleting. Plus, you forfeit your ability to do firmware updates (without flashing). It won't remove the bloatware from internal storage, but it will at least stop it from starting up and using memory. And if you freeze something important, you can always unfreeze it.
danieljamie said:
Did you do this with Titanium Free or have you paid for it?
Can you explain exactly the process? Do you backup, then freeze? Freeze then backup? It confuses me...
I want to go through and remove the bloat, but I want to do it "right".
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I paid for the full version. Initially I froze things a couple at a time and kept rebooting to make sure all was good. Then once I froze everything I wanted to I waited a week, then uninstalled all frozen apps.
These are the ones I have uninstalled with no adverse effects so far (R800i locked to 3 UK)
Brick Breaker
Chinese Keyboard
Extension Search
Facebook
Facebook Calendar Sync
Facebook extension
Facebook setup
foursquare
foursquare timescape
friends games & ...ications
Friends music and videos
Fun and Downloads
Music Unlimited
Officesuite
Play on device
playstation pocket
Retail demo
SEMC Facebook proxy
Sony Ericsson Facebook
Spotify
Spotify Timescape
Store
Timescape Feeds
Timescape
Timescape Widget
Touchnote
Tower Bloxx
Twitter Extension
UEFA.com
Video Unlimited
WhattsApp
Wikipedia Extension
Win Cash
Wisepilot
Xperia Hot Shots
I also use link2SD for everythings except
FPSe
Market
Titanium Backup
Currently got 213MB free on internal storage. Free memory is 207MB. Phone is loads snappier than when I got it, and I no longer get Spotify force closes randomly.
Obviously what works for me, may not work for you. You might even be using facebook and spotify. Just backup everything and sync it to dropbox before you start playing.
Thankyou, I appreciate the advice..
How do I best move system things to SD card?
There is a guide to link2sd on here somwhere. Previously I was using the paid version of Apps2SD. Although I think you can move apps to the SD using titanium backup.
Wow. Bought Titanium Backup Pro. Synced with Dropbox (not even on WIFI but who cares). Ordered them by size. Converted some of the games to user apps. Moved to SD card. 115MB space on internal! WOW!
gbesta said:
I paid for the full version. Initially I froze things a couple at a time and kept rebooting to make sure all was good. Then once I froze everything I wanted to I waited a week, then uninstalled all frozen apps.
These are the ones I have uninstalled with no adverse effects so far (R800i locked to 3 UK)
Brick Breaker
Chinese Keyboard
Extension Search
Facebook
Facebook Calendar Sync
Facebook extension
Facebook setup
foursquare
foursquare timescape
friends games & ...ications
Friends music and videos
Fun and Downloads
Music Unlimited
Officesuite
Play on device
playstation pocket
Retail demo
SEMC Facebook proxy
Sony Ericsson Facebook
Spotify
Spotify Timescape
Store
Timescape Feeds
Timescape
Timescape Widget
Touchnote
Tower Bloxx
Twitter Extension
UEFA.com
Video Unlimited
WhattsApp
Wikipedia Extension
Win Cash
Wisepilot
Xperia Hot Shots
I also use link2SD for everythings except
FPSe
Market
Titanium Backup
Currently got 213MB free on internal storage. Free memory is 207MB. Phone is loads snappier than when I got it, and I no longer get Spotify force closes randomly.
Obviously what works for me, may not work for you. You might even be using facebook and spotify. Just backup everything and sync it to dropbox before you start playing.
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exactly what im looking now, is this on 2.3.4?
brochador said:
exactly what im looking now, is this on 2.3.4?
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Not sure what you mean, but yes I am running 2.3.4.
gbesta said:
Not sure what you mean, but yes I am running 2.3.4.
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yeah OS version, 2.3.4.. I lost the 'more games' on our launcher, and i think that's the fun & downloads, good thing i created a back up..
You guys realise I meant apps that are actualy uninstallable, right? Not stuff you can get rid of with TB?
The Alpha Gamer said:
You guys realise I meant apps that are actualy uninstallable, right? Not stuff you can get rid of with TB?
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As I said in my first post. All of my bloat is system apps and can only be removed with titanium backup.
gbesta said:
As I said in my first post. All of my bloat is system apps and can only be removed with titanium backup.
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Then why do mine have an "uninstall" option?
The Alpha Gamer said:
Then why do mine have an "uninstall" option?
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Good question, and one that interests me. I have an R800i sim locked to 3 UK. The stuff I listed along with the games is considered by me to be bloat. Yet all of them are system apps. Leaving me unable to remove them, or move to the SD card.
I have since converted and /or removed them using titanium backup.
Do you have uninstall options for the items I listed. What phone do you have and is it provider locked, or sim free?
gbesta said:
Good question, and one that interests me. I have an R800i sim locked to 3 UK. The stuff I listed along with the games is considered by me to be bloat. Yet all of them are system apps. Leaving me unable to remove them, or move to the SD card.
I have since converted and /or removed them using titanium backup.
Do you have uninstall options for the items I listed. What phone do you have and is it provider locked, or sim free?
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Out of the ones you listed, just UEFA, What'sapp, Wisepilot, Hotshots and 2 Music Unlimiteds. I don't even have some of the bloat you have though.
It's an R800i, sim free
The Alpha Gamer said:
Out of the ones you listed, just UEFA, What'sapp, Wisepilot, Hotshots and 2 Music Unlimiteds. I don't even have some of the bloat you have though.
It's an R800i, sim free
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Sim free is seeming the better option, as you can unlock the bootloader, and you get less bloat. Wish I knew that before signing up for contract. Just after I got it, I noticed sim free was only £150 - £200.
gbesta said:
Sim free is seeming the better option, as you can unlock the bootloader, and you get less bloat. Wish I knew that before signing up for contract. Just after I got it, I noticed sim free was only £150 - £200.
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That must have stung D=
mine was £180 from Argos.

Bloatware

Hello
I recently received my note 7, which I purchased directly from Samsung which means it should not come with any carrier bloatware. I inserted my Canadian Rogers SIM card before turning on my phone and going though the initial set up only to finish and find a bunch of Rogers bloatware like 'MyRogers' and 'AppZone'. I have tried to uninstall these apps but I am only given the option to disable them. I even did a factory reset and made sure there was no SIM card during the whole process, but after completing it, those same bloatware apps were there. Is this normal? Is there a way I can uninstall these apps? One of the reasons I purchased directly from Samsung is so I wouldn't get all those carrier bloatware apps, but for some reason they are in my phone. Any comments and/or help is appreciated.
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TheAtomicBuddha said:
Hello
I recently received my note 7, which I purchased directly from Samsung which means it should not come with any carrier bloatware. I inserted my Canadian Rogers SIM card before turning on my phone and going though the initial set up only to finish and find a bunch of Rogers bloatware like 'MyRogers' and 'AppZone'. I have tried to uninstall these apps but I am only given the option to disable them. I even did a factory reset and made sure there was no SIM card during the whole process, but after completing it, those same bloatware apps were there. Is this normal? Is there a way I can uninstall these apps? One of the reasons I purchased directly from Samsung is so I wouldn't get all those carrier bloatware apps, but for some reason they are in my phone. Any comments and/or help is appreciated.
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Just disable them and move on. If Disable is greyed out, use Package Disabler Pro. Also, apps are pre built into the system as system apps, so unless you find an untouched original firmware and flash it through odin, it will always have bloatware. I've disabled 137 samsung apps/services and my phones running like a beaut lol.
imatts said:
Just disable them and move on. If Disable is greyed out, use Package Disabler Pro. Also, apps are pre built into the system as system apps, so unless you find an untouched original firmware and flash it through odin, it will always have bloatware. I've disabled 137 samsung apps/services and my phones running like a beaut lol.
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So all those websites saying that buying from the manufacturer is better because you won't have all that carrier bloatware are wrong? I read somewhere that they say that when you put a sim card in, it will automatically download all that bloatware, but I just realised my old Nexus did not have this problem which makes things even more confusing.
imatts said:
Just disable them and move on. If Disable is greyed out, use Package Disabler Pro. Also, apps are pre built into the system as system apps, so unless you find an untouched original firmware and flash it through odin, it will always have bloatware. I've disabled 137 samsung apps/services and my phones running like a beaut lol.
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Could you please export the list of the disabled apps and post it here, thanks.
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millicent said:
Could you please export the list of the disabled apps and post it here, thanks.
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<importExportSetting>
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<string>com.samsung.svoice.sync</string>
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<string>com.android.externalstorage</string>
<string>com.sec.factory</string>
<string>com.whatsapp</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.sbrowseredge</string>
<string>com.android.mms.service</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.qconnect</string>
<string>com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.tourviewer</string>
<string>com.sec.android.Kies</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.voicenote</string>
<string>com.monotype.android.font.foundation</string>
<string>com.sec.android.widgetapp.easymodecontactswidget</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.email.provider</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.samsungapps</string>
<string>com.microsoft.office.excel</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.billing</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.minimode.res</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gamehome</string>
<string>com.sec.android.daemonapp</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.service.socket</string>
<string>com.sec.android.AutoPreconfig</string>
<string>com.microsoft.skydrive</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.securitylogagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.watchmanager</string>
<string>com.samsung.SMT</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.galaxylabs</string>
<string>com.sec.android.ofviewer</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.drivelink.stub</string>
<string>com.samsung.hs20provider</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.sample.acquirechannels</string>
<string>com.android.nfc</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.messaging</string>
<string>com.instagram.android</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.SecSetupWizard</string>
<string>com.microsoft.office.onenote</string>
<string>com.google.android.gm</string>
<string>com.sec.bcservice</string>
<string>com.sec.android.uibcvirtualsoftkey</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.sdk.professionalaudio.utility.jammonitor</string>
<string>com.android.sharedstoragebackup</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.colorblind</string>
<string>com.google.android.music</string>
<string>com.android.printspooler</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.hmt.vrsvc</string>
<string>com.android.dreams.basic</string>
<string>com.sec.app.samsungprintservice</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.dictionary</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.talkback</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gametools</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.service.peoplestripe</string>
<string>com.sec.smartcard.manager</string>
<string>com.sec.allsharecastplayer</string>
<string>com.google.android.apps.docs</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.taskedge</string>
<string>com.microsoft.office.word</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.advsounddetector</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.clockpackage</string>
<string>com.microsoft.office.powerpoint</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.mirrorlink</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.vrsetupwizardstub</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.widgetapp.yahooedge</string>
<string>com.sec.android.widgetapp.locationwidget</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.controltv</string>
<string>com.google.android.videos</string>
<string>com.sec.spp.push</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.server</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.gamepad.service</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.allshare.service.fileshare</string>
<string>com.sec.android.mimage.photoretouching</string>
<string>com.samsung.helphub</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.sns3</string>
<string>flipboard.boxer.app</string>
<string>com.google.android.apps.photos</string>
<string>com.sec.android.providers.tasks</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.sbrowser</string>
<string>com.monotype.android.font.chococooky</string>
<string>com.android.dreams.phototable</string>
<string>com.sec.android.service.health</string>
<string>com.samsung.safetyinformation</string>
<string>com.facebook.katana</string>
<string>com.samsung.app.highlightplayer</string>
<string>com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.keyguardwallpaperupdator</string>
<string>com.android.wallpaper.livepicker</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.beaconmanager</string>
<string>com.facebook.orca</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.FileShareClient</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.quickassist</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.popupcalculator</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.quicktool</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.fmm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.mdm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.voc</string>
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<string>com.sec.penup</string>
<string>com.sec.android.easyMover</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bbc.bbcagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.voicewakeup</string>
<string>com.sec.android.splitsound</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.watchmanagerstub</string>
<string>com.policydm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.FileShareServer</string>
<string>com.enhance.gameservice</string>
<string>com.google.android.talk</string>
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<string>com.samsung.android.allshare.service.mediashare</string>
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<string>com.sec.knox.switcher</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.magnifier</string>
</disabledPackages>
</importExportSetting>
Although I did disable a few regular samsung apps like internet, calculator, clock, my files, and i think a few others. Just scroll through the list anf checkmark what you want disabled, and leave the things you want enabled unchecked.
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TheAtomicBuddha said:
So all those websites saying that buying from the manufacturer is better because you won't have all that carrier bloatware are wrong? I read somewhere that they say that when you put a sim card in, it will automatically download all that bloatware, but I just realised my old Nexus did not have this problem which makes things even more confusing.
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Honestly I dont know, I havent bought a phone from a carrier in 5 years. I just go straight to the source. Just use PDP
Once you activate it with a carrier they load their programs onto the phone during activation. Sprint does the same and you can uninstall most of it except for a few.
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Itchiee said:
Once you activate it with a carrier they load their programs onto the phone during activation. Sprint does the same and you can uninstall most of it except for a few.
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This is the correct answer, in order to prevent this from happening - go through the activation process without a SIM inserted.
TheAtomicBuddha said:
Hello
I recently received my note 7, which I purchased directly from Samsung which means it should not come with any carrier bloatware. I inserted my Canadian Rogers SIM card before turning on my phone and going though the initial set up only to finish and find a bunch of Rogers bloatware like 'MyRogers' and 'AppZone'. I have tried to uninstall these apps but I am only given the option to disable them. I even did a factory reset and made sure there was no SIM card during the whole process, but after completing it, those same bloatware apps were there. Is this normal? Is there a way I can uninstall these apps? One of the reasons I purchased directly from Samsung is so I wouldn't get all those carrier bloatware apps, but for some reason they are in my phone. Any comments and/or help is appreciated.
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My understanding is that all of the Note 7 versions shipped to carriers install the boatware automatically in the initial setup based upon the first sim that is installed.
So if you took a clean Verizon Note 7 to tmobile it would setup tmobile bloatware instead.
I haven't been able to find out if it is cleared upon reset. I don't know if/when it will be possible to have a bloatware free version here without going with a carrier that just doesn't offer a full version Note 7. It is an awesome phone one way or another!
TheAtomicBuddha said:
So all those websites saying that buying from the manufacturer is better because you won't have all that carrier bloatware are wrong? I read somewhere that they say that when you put a sim card in, it will automatically download all that bloatware, but I just realised my old Nexus did not have this problem which makes things even more confusing.
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Unless you found the unlocked, non-carrier branded Note 7 on Samsung's site that they have yet to release then you got carrier bloat. It's not enough to order FROM the manufacturer but it has to say unlocked as the S7 they released is .. there are S7's marked for carriers which will have Samsung bloat and carrier bloat whether it ships on the phone or is downloaded during setup.
Again, you have to have purchased the unlocked, non-carrier branded version. This has not been released yet. Now .. once it has the ROM from that version will make it's way out and you can flash it. Then you'll have what you thought you purchased. :good:
SolarTico said:
My understanding is that all of the Note 7 versions shipped to carriers install the boatware automatically in the initial setup based upon the first sim that is installed.
So if you took a clean Verizon Note 7 to tmobile it would setup tmobile bloatware instead.
I haven't been able to find out if it is cleared upon reset. I don't know if/when it will be possible to have a bloatware free version here without going with a carrier that just doesn't offer a full version Note 7. It is an awesome phone one way or another!
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Sorry, that's incorrect. The carrier branded devices have the carrier specific 'bloatware' baked into the signed firmware package. For example, I set up my T-Mobile branded note 7 before I put my SIM in. The tmo bloat was already there.
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Someone please list a complete list of Bloatware that is safe to remove from carriers thanks
Here is the list of apps I have disabled with Package Disabler Pro on my Verizon Note 7. I am sure there are other apps that could be disabled if one wanted, but these are the ones that I felt I didn't need/want and have had zero issues since disabling. This has seemed to free up more RAM, and I also think is helping with battery life a bit. Here is the list:
ANT + DUT
ANT radio service
ANT + HAL service
ANT Plugins service
Apps edge
Briefing - flipboard
Briefing feed
Calendar
Caller name ID
CNN for edge panel
DT Ignite
Edge screen
Email com.samsung.android
Facebook app manager
Gmail - google
Google play movies & TV
Google play music
Hangouts
Message +
Messages
NFL Mobile
People edge
Setup wizard - google
Setup wizard - android
System updates 1
System updates 2
Verizon location agent
Verizon store demo mode
VZ Navigator
Weather 1
Weather 2
Yahoo Edge

Bloatware

I just ordered my 7x a couple of days ago. I've seen some reviews about bloatware. I was just wondering, is there a lot of it? Can any of it be uninstalled or just disabled? Don't plan on rooting the device any time soon so would like to eliminate as much bloat as possible without root.
kingd421 said:
I just ordered my 7x a couple of days ago. I've seen some reviews about bloatware. I was just wondering, is there a lot of it? Can any of it be uninstalled or just disabled? Don't plan on rooting the device any time soon so would like to eliminate as much bloat as possible without root.
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Really depends on what you consider bloatware. It comes with a lot of Google products, Facebook, Instagram, and some others. I only use a handful of Google products and none of the social stuff. It also comes with a few Huawei products I don't use. For me, that's a lot of bloatware. To others who may use all these apps, it may not be.
I will say it sucks to have apps like SwiftKey preinstalled because I use the beta version. This creates two different versions on the phone. I can't say if this is true for other apps, but it could be.
It can't be uninstalled by the way, well not without root. I don't believe they can be disabled either, but could be wrong about that.
bloodbath said:
Really depends on what you consider bloatware. It comes with a lot of Google products, Facebook, Instagram, and some others. I only use a handful of Google products and none of the social stuff. It also comes with a few Huawei products I don't use. For me, that's a lot of bloatware. To others who may use all these apps, it may not be.
I will say it sucks to have apps like SwiftKey preinstalled because I use the beta version. This creates two different versions on the phone. I can't say if this is true for other apps, but it could be.
It can't be uninstalled by the way, well not without root. I don't believe they can be disabled either, but could be wrong about that.
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Thank you for the response. Its apps like facebook and Instagram that I don't want on there. I use Metal, just lighter and don't need to use the messenger app. I figured it would come with Huawei apps. I just didn't know if it came with bunch of stuff. Still excited to get the phone. Its been years since I've bought a brand new phone lol.
kingd421 said:
Thank you for the response. Its apps like facebook and Instagram that I don't want on there. I use Metal, just lighter and don't need to use the messenger app. I figured it would come with Huawei apps. I just didn't know if it came with bunch of stuff. Still excited to get the phone. Its been years since I've bought a brand new phone lol.
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Those apps are easily uninstallable though.
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ayush rao said:
Those apps are easily uninstallable though.
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Are they? Sweet I was hoping they weren't system apps. I had a galaxy s6 which I'd still be using if I could root it and install all the **** Samsung and at&t put on there.
kingd421 said:
Are they? Sweet I was hoping they weren't system apps. I had a galaxy s6 which I'd still be using if I could root it and install all the **** Samsung and at&t put on there.
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Haha! All the third party apps included on the phone can be uninstalled. Tech reviews keep saying bloatware for EMUI phones but never really explain which apps can be uninstalled.
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ayush rao said:
Haha! All the third party apps included on the phone can be uninstalled. Tech reviews keep saying bloatware for EMUI phones but never really explain which apps can be uninstalled.
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Not exactly. Facebook came pre-installed and can't be removed iirc. I went through and disabled every app I didn't use. Basically what it does when you disable a pre-installed app it resets the app back to factory version then disables it. Below is two screen shots. One of the pre-installed Facebook and another of an app that I installed myself. When clicking the Uninstall button it gives two different options.
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Not exactly. Facebook came pre-installed and can't be removed iirc. I went through and disabled every app I didn't use. Basically what it does when you disable a pre-installed app it resets the app back to factory version then disables it. Below is two screen shots. One of the pre-installed Facebook and another of an app that I installed myself. When clicking the Uninstall button it gives two different options.
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I was able to uninstall all the 3rd-party apps that came on my phone (US). CNN, Instagram, Facebook, Messenger, one or two more. I was also able to uninstall several Google apps: Google+, Google Play Books, Slides, Docs, etc. Just Music & Movies and TVs were the only ones I'd rather unininstall but were system apps. There is also a program called Facebook App Manager that can only be disabled and not uninstalled.
Overall, the bloatware was pretty light and it was easy to remove 90% of it, so even if you don't intend to root (I do), it's not really bad at all. I am a bit shocked, frankly.
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I was able to uninstall all the 3rd-party apps that came on my phone (US). CNN, Instagram, Facebook, Messenger, one or two more. I was also able to uninstall several Google apps: Google+, Google Play Books, Slides, Docs, etc. Just Music & Movies and TVs were the only ones I'd rather unininstall but were system apps. There is also a program called Facebook App Manager that can only be disabled and not uninstalled.
Overall, the bloatware was pretty light and it was easy to remove 90% of it, so even if you don't intend to root (I do), it's not really bad at all. I am a bit shocked, frankly.
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Very nice. Mines arriving today can't wait. I intend to root at some point but I keep reading that there's no stock images released yet and I don't want to mess up and not be able to fix it afterwards. So I'll just use it as is for now and wait for the development to pick up first. If I get the urge to flash a custom ROM , people keep releasing them for the nexus 5 which is what I'm currently using.

Ccswe not working, again

Today, I found that ccswe is again not working due to knox license issues, I emailed the dev, and told me that, for whatever reason, samsung revoked his license, again… what a pity this thing is… I am confident about the dev solving this issue, meanwhile.. Samsung: ?
Yeah it's been like that for months. Very disappointing. I find that I'm forced to pay for an appblocker onna yearly basis that has no managed to be viable longer than a year. I miss the GatesJunior rooting years. His apk manager was the best.
Hopefully he's able to get his license back and get the app working. Best part about this guy is I don't have to re buy the app when it starts working again. And he does communicate. I also hope his health is good, last time he was in the hospital for a while.
Yes, the dev is really a honest guy, no need to re-buy or anything of the sort, I think he has troubles derived of how powerful his app is, hopefully he will fix this issue shortly
i also hope he manages to resolve this unfortunate issue with Samsung
Can anyone share the apk? It's been removed from the play store.
I'm so sick of Samsung's bull**** bloatware.
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Can anyone share the apk? It's been removed from the play store.
I'm so sick of Samsung's bull**** bloatware.
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Even if you had the apk it wouldn't work. Still has to verify the key and dial into Samsung. It's a lost cause for now.
as i understand that this app needs root to work - wouldn't f.e. Titanium Backup pro be an alternative ? or even remove apps via ADB ?
I've never rooted this phone and it worked like a charm. Don't think root was ever achieved for the VZW N10+
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as i understand that this app needs root to work - wouldn't f.e. Titanium Backup pro be an alternative ? or even remove apps via ADB ?
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There are two versions, the one for rooted devices does not need knox licensing, and it is free I think, the other one, which is a pay app works on non rooted devices, that is precisely why it relies on knox
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There are two versions, the one for rooted devices does not need knox licensing, and it is free I think, the other one, which is a pay app works on non rooted devices, that is precisely why it relies on knox
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oh - i never read about the possibility to really remove apps, without root. interesting. i wouldn't mind paying for this.
for me the two missing things on Samsung stock: proper backups like in titanium, including log-ins, or diskimages, as in TWRP-recovery and completely removing useless apps like FaceBook. deactivating them in Appmanager seems to be no proper solution, especially as as many of them can't be deactivated.
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oh - i never read about the possibility to really remove apps, without root. interesting. i wouldn't mind paying for this.
for me the two missing things on Samsung stock: proper backups like in titanium, including log-ins, or diskimages, as in TWRP-recovery and completely removing useless apps like FaceBook. deactivating them in Appmanager seems to be no proper solution, especially as as many of them can't be deactivated.
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Well ccswe, and for that matter, package disabler pro, do not have the ability to unistall certain system apps, they can just totally disable them, ccswe is more powerful than package disabler pro, as it is able to block things inside an app without disabling completely the app itself
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Well ccswe, and for that matter, package disabler pro, do not have the ability to unistall certain system apps, they can just totally disable them, ccswe is more powerful than package disabler pro, as it is able to block things inside an app without disabling completely the app itself
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Lots of pesky things.
PD MDM is the only reason this 10+ is usable without root.
Lol, AT&T updates/apps and bixby* get blocked first...
*Bixby Vision and Vision Framework are needed by the cam.
The fine granularity on the app is great. We can see all the servi, activities and other interesting elements of each app. I've seen something like that only with apps that have root access, like MyAndroidTools for example.
I was testing the free ccswe app when it stopped working. I'm gonna buy the paid version, the only draw back was that I saw just 10+ downloads on the store. Was wondering why ppl don't buy it. Reading here your opinions gives me more reasons to get it.
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Lots of pesky things.
PD MDM is the only reason this 10+ is usable without root.
Lol, AT&T updates/apps and bixby* get blocked first...
*Bixby Vision and Vision Framework are needed by the cam.
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I've blocked them and camera works fine.
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I've blocked them and camera works fine.
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No, no it doesn't. Target tracking (yellow square) needs it, possible advanced metering functions and probably more.
Those two Bixby apps only run when the cam needs them.
It does not appear to me that he lost his Knox license, I read sonewhere that he said the "free" model no longer works and he has a paid version up now, so he must have just disabled the license for the free version. The paid version is showing 100+ downloads now.
Stupid question, but I mainly used CCSWE to disable apps starting at boot. However, I never really confirmed if it was working and I've see other apps claim to do that (non-root) such as All-In-One Toolbox I believe. Has anyone confirmed thay CCSWE actually prevented selected apps from starting at boot?
He has posted a notice via ccswe update that Samsung has revoked his partner licence and without it and the keys that license grants the app can not function. both free and paid app are rendered inactive
The developer seems a decent chap and has told me that if I buy the paid version again and email him the details he will refund the original licence. Thing is I'm reluctant to pay for something that depends on a licence I don't own. If I'd realized that it only works seemingly at the whim of Samsung, I probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place!
If Samsung has revoked his partner license, how is he selling a paid version of the app? Is that why it is a beta, so all the reviews from people saying they just purchased it and it doesn't work don't show? Even if he gets it working again, it seems like an extreme gamble to purchase an app that keeps loosing its licensing.
Is there any other non-root method of disabling startups on a Samsung phone?

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