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Hi everyone!
I want to use my phone as a sort of security camera for around 10h. I'm on latest Slim ROM, with AK Purity kernel, Conservative Governor, maximum cpu frequency set to 920 MHz (of course with lowest brightness and on airplane mode).
With the original battery full charged and an external usb 5600 mAh battery plugged (which can charge the phone 2 times and something more) I can reach around 6/7 hours of autonomy.
Do you have any ideas for adding at least 3 hours of battery life? :laugh::laugh:
[email protected] said:
Hi everyone!
I want to use my phone as a sort of security camera for around 10h. I'm on latest Slim ROM, with AK Purity kernel, Conservative Governor, maximum cpu frequency set to 920 MHz (of course with lowest brightness and on airplane mode).
With the original battery full charged and an external usb 5600 mAh battery plugged (which can charge the phone 2 times and something more) I can reach around 6/7 hours of autonomy.
Do you have any ideas for adding at least 3 hours of battery life? :laugh::laugh:
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I'm just trying to get 6/7 hours
Is your screen on the whole time?
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if you are able to do it with the screen off may be you can squeeze a couple of hours , but dont actually know if the camera would work with the screen off?
Maybe with a an app installed that keeps proximity senzor on all the time. This way you can put a peace of adhesive plastic or something over the senzor after you turn on the camera. Voila! Camera working and screen is off. Only problem is: it's a very expensive device to use for a camera. Not worth it.
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catanzaro27 said:
Maybe with a an app installed that keeps proximity senzor on all the time. This way you can put a peace of adhesive plastic or something over the senzor after you turn on the camera. Voila! Camera working and screen is off. Only problem is: it's a very expensive device to use for a camera. Not worth it.
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Can you explain this better? What is the connection between the proximity sensor and the camera?
I'm using a motion-triggered app to record, because the internal memory (~13 gb) of course cannot store 10h of recording in 1080p, and it needs the phone to stay awake in order to work. Do you know any other apps which work with screen off?
Thanks for the help by the way
[email protected] said:
Hi everyone!
I want to use my phone as a sort of security camera for around 10h. I'm on latest Slim ROM, with AK Purity kernel, Conservative Governor, maximum cpu frequency set to 920 MHz (of course with lowest brightness and on airplane mode).
With the original battery full charged and an external usb 5600 mAh battery plugged (which can charge the phone 2 times and something more) I can reach around 6/7 hours of autonomy.
Do you have any ideas for adding at least 3 hours of battery life? :laugh::laugh:
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Used a Voltaic V60 (would give you a link but XDA says I can't since I'm a "new" user) for my thesis project in college. About the size of 10 standard extended batteries. Will probably be a little overkill, but definitely an option.
Hi,
When I use from my phone and run game (not high end) ,back of my phone getting very hot and burning my hand.
life time battery without play gaming and just send several sms and little talking is one day also i installed power saver app.
What can i do about it? battery is corrupted? or is other problem?
please help, i buying this phone 20 days before.
thank you
I was having the same issues when I first got my G Pro... I called LG tech support and they Had me do a soft reset....
Pull out the battery with the phone on.
Leave the battery out for 5 minutes.
Replace the battery, and turn in G Pro..
Solved my hot battery problem....:thumbup:
The main culprit is the ondemand governor that kicks up the CPU frequencies to max (1.7GHz) with just the slightest touch. Doesn't matter what kind of games you play, it's still stressing the CPU. Since we don't have any stable / feature rich kernels providing the better governors, interactive is the best bet to reduce heat and save battery life while not making a noticeable hit on performance. Only noticed a 2 fps drop when doing the benchmark on Epic Citadel with it on the highest quality. Still nice and smooth!
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my battery usually 41.2degrees
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my battery usually 41.2degrees
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should be only mid 30s. My current temp is 23C. I run interactive.
Does the Samsung Galaxy Note10+ (Snapdragon) throttle the CPU to save battery life or manage heat? If so, is there some way to modify that?
Of course there would be a way of doing it, but first root must be achieved
i believe so i keep it on high performance mode at all times
I've only seen this happen if you have either of the power saving moves enabled.
I ran a test with the device set to high performance mode, and there is definitely some modest throttling after the 2 minute mark. Root can't come soon enough.
Results: https://m.imgur.com/a/ySI0LBH
Here are the results of a more intensive test: https://imgur.com/a/3t4o6f3
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I ran a test with the device set to high performance mode, and there is definitely some modest throttling after the 2 minute mark. Root can't come soon enough.
Results: https://m.imgur.com/a/ySI0LBH
Here are the results of a more intensive test: https://imgur.com/a/3t4o6f3
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So you want it to overheat instead of slow down? Damn thing says 174 degrees.
Can someone, who has the Exynos version, do the CPU Throttling Test and share the picture, please?
The only rootless setting you can set for it is the moderate power save that fix it to 70%
You need root otherwise.
Every CPU have Throttling. This is about temp. increasing. Have one test in GSMARENA.COM
Flagships vs Gaming phones. After 1 hour hard gaming casual flagships decreasing CPU power on 60, 70 % to prevent overheating. In Gamer phones like ROG or Black Shark decreasing is only around 90%. This is because they have active cooling systems.
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Every CPU have Throttling. This is about temp. increasing. Have one test in GSMARENA.COM
Flagships vs Gaming phones. After 1 hour hard gaming casual flagships decreasing CPU power on 60, 70 % to prevent overheating. In Gamer phones like ROG or Black Shark decreasing is only around 90%. This is because they have active cooling systems.
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I agree. But not only gaming devices. For example, Sony Xperia XZ Premium doesn't throttle that much.
I just wanted to see if there is a difference in Throttle on Exynos and Snapdragon.
If someone could do a CPU Throttling Test on Exynos, I would be very happy!
Exynos is horrendous. Just look at gips. Im starting to believe more and more there's something wrong with my device.
I have the exynos 990 version of the S20 FE and as we all know, the 990 is a little bit of a hot mess. However it has quite a lot to give if limited correctly.I'm running One UI 3.1 on android 11. I rooted my FE with magisk and installed Franco kernel manager. The steps below will give you good battery life and performance.
Step 1: Straight up disable the M5 mongoose cores. They are Samsung's biggest undoing.
Step2 : Limit all clock speed to 2Ghz. Trust me, the IPC on the 990 is really damn good and you don't need to worry about performance loss. Forget the benchmarks, everything just works. Getting the last 2.7ghz or 2.5ghz usually requires a significant voltage bump and you mostly wont need the speed.
Step3 : The GPU is actually just fine as is. Try to set the max clock to 370mhz, which sounds ridiculously low, but the 990's GPU was made for 1440p screens, so the UI still remains smooth even at 120Hz. I played Riptide Renegade with this setting and it was very smooth as well. You can play with this number according to how much you game, I, for the most part, don't.
My hypothesis, based on my usage of about 2 months (yeah, i rooted this bad boi about a week from purchase, screw warranty, i'm gonna be alone for life :-( ) is given below >>>>>>
Thermal throttling seems to be due to the M5 cores clocking up like crazy while doing basically nothing. This is probably mostly because Samsung uses their own "energy_step" CPU governor which still needs some work. You can try changing this to schedutil ( which is basically EAS ) and see how it fares. The GPU also ends up underclocking because the GPU has a " joint " governor ( basically ramps up and down with CPU speed to some extent, not entirely sure about this, i may be completely wrong).
I have also have put a battery charge limiter in place at 90% but that doesn't really make a difference. I use my phone quite heavily and at 120Hz but still get about 18 - 20 hours of usage (not 20h screen on time!)if on FULL CHARGE
In fact if you even disable the "BIG" i.g A77 cores, and use only the four A55 "little" ones, it's still good for daily usage. Processing time on the camera takes a bit of a hit, but you can always create a custom profile for that to enable all cores for the camera app. I have my phone skinned with the AOSP-R day/night hex installer theme.
Also huge reasons for rooting :
Tasker > for some insane automation profiles i made
Naptime, Servicely > Free extra battery life
The battery charge limiter to preserve my long term battery life.
Also a GCAM update, the scan3d APKs of BSG are getting rather good. We need to get together an tune the hell out of this sensor to get it to par with the stock camera tho, especially during night. Also no telephoto support, AFAIK. One S20FE confing shall be in the works.
Unrelated shameless self plug : https://www.youtube.com/c/siddharthlh please visit my youtube channel. It does contain some interesting tutorials for tech heads
I'm going to share this thread over on reddit with the army of disgruntled Exytoast users. if this works they will love you as a living god
3mel said:
I'm going to share this thread over on reddit with the army of disgruntled Exytoast users. if this works they will love you as a living god
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Maybe tag me in the post or something I'm siddharth_lh on reddit. I can help out there itself
done...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS20FE/comments/ndnp0s
By "M5 mongoose cores" you mean the ones labeled as "Prime cores"? Just rooted and tried this. Will report back with results.
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By "M5 mongoose cores" you mean the ones labeled as "Prime cores"? Just rooted and tried this. Will report back with results.
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Yep
bipolar unbound said:
Yep
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Did you apply these settings?
How's performance and results been?
bipolar unbound said:
Step 1: Straight up disable the M5 mongoose cores. They are Samsung's biggest undoing.
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What does this do?
Also I dont wanna set the clock speed any lower is that fine?
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What does this do?
Also I dont wanna set the clock speed any lower is that fine?
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if you're changing the max frequency via a kernel tweaking app you can simply change it back if you don't like it.
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By "M5 mongoose cores" you mean the ones labeled as "Prime cores"? Just rooted and tried this. Will report back with results.
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How did it go?
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How did it go?
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It's been about a week and just 2 days ago I started seeing better battery life. The first 4-5 days were the same as before. I straight up disabled the 2 "prime" cores and the performance is basically the same. Never noticed a hiccup or a slow down. Before I rooted and tried this I was getting about 2.5 hrs SOT before I had to charge and now I'm getting about 3-3.5 hours, just a little more. Seems like less overheating (haven't check temps, just the feeling of it). What I haven't figured out is how to make the change on the GPU frequencies stay, if I set a max, it doesn't cares about it and it still goes above the limit. I'm always using 120 hz on this changes, so I'd say it's worth it.
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It's been about a week and just 2 days ago I started seeing better battery life. The first 4-5 days were the same as before. I straight up disabled the 2 "prime" cores and the performance is basically the same. Never noticed a hiccup or a slow down. Before I rooted and tried this I was getting about 2.5 hrs SOT before I had to charge and now I'm getting about 3-3.5 hours, just a little more. Seems like less overheating (haven't check temps, just the feeling of it). What I haven't figured out is how to make the change on the GPU frequencies stay, if I set a max, it doesn't cares about it and it still goes above the limit. I'm always using 120 hz on this changes, so I'd say it's worth it.
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I think should wait for Android 12 to see if it gets better if not then I will do this process
Me too. Great tips!
Go to settings and search for "Limit CPU speed to 70%" and turn it on. Normally gives better battery life. Haven't seen any major bottleneck in performance.
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Go to settings and search for "Limit CPU speed to 70%" and turn it on. Normally gives better battery life. Haven't seen any major bottleneck in performance.
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Doesnt it affect performance in games and stuff?
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Doesnt it affect performance in games and stuff?
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Haven't experienced any major performance hit in regular usage. Not a heavy gamer so your mileage might vary.
Guys...the last update for Exynos really worked? I've heard about changes in CPU governor that worked!
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It's been about a week and just 2 days ago I started seeing better battery life. The first 4-5 days were the same as before. I straight up disabled the 2 "prime" cores and the performance is basically the same. Never noticed a hiccup or a slow down. Before I rooted and tried this I was getting about 2.5 hrs SOT before I had to charge and now I'm getting about 3-3.5 hours, just a little more. Seems like less overheating (haven't check temps, just the feeling of it). What I haven't figured out is how to make the change on the GPU frequencies stay, if I set a max, it doesn't cares about it and it still goes above the limit. I'm always using 120 hz on this changes, so I'd say it's worth it.
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Still that§s a really poor battery performance, and now without warranty... I will take my s20fe to samsung and if they wont repair or change it, I will be also forced to root my phone.
My experience rooting S20+ Exynos 990 following this thread:
TL;DR: Added 6-8 hours of standby battery life just from turning off prime and big cores, haven't checked on screen battery life since I don't use my phone much at work, but I wanted standby time improved.
Before turning off the prime and big cores, I got 11 hours tops on battery life. Seemingly out of nowhere the phone was always warm, despite just sitting at my desk with a very strong signal. I knew that at 12 pm, with 50% brightness, 120hz, and AOD I would expect at least 50% just gone even though I barely even used the damn thing. The straw that broke me, is that even though I was connected to wifi, I could only expect maybe at most, 3-4 hours of screen on time, which finally drove me insane. I checked out the thread sometime ago but was skeptical if it really was worth the trouble since it seemed a lengthy process. Take it from someone who hasn't rooted in a long time, just follow the guides and it all is pretty simple.
After turning off the prime and big cores, immediately thermals were so much better, after 3-5 minutes the phone was much cooler, about 5-8 degrees cooler on the chip area. Since the phone was reset, I couldn't really tell if battery was better. After the using my phone for a week rooted I can tell you, the battery difference is abysmal.
Before, I was struggling to end my day on 30-20%, now I can confidently end my day on 60-50%, depending on how much I used my phone. When idle the phone, barely sips battery, my estimate is that it went from 8-10% just idling, to 3-4% (need to check since I haven't turned on the prime cores ever since rooting). I wasn't willing to sacrifice 120hz so I always kept it on and battery life was good, however I will test with Max Hz on 96 hz, which should extend battery life.
Performance on the little cores is virtually the same, I haven't noticed any hiccups, lag or anything by that matter. I was concerned that on this thread it was mentioned that the camera took a hit, but on the S20+ nothing has changed, maybe the shutter is 0.3 seconds slower but I honestly don't notice or it doesn't bother me at all. Recording high resolution videos is no problem, and nothing really changed for me. Thermals are massively improved, if you're doing a heavy task, like recording, downloading or uploading, or something that you know requires heavy lifting, of course the phone will get warm, but not even close to how hot it would get just idling or doing the same tasks with the big or prime cores.
Since I don't play games I can't really say whether gaming has taking a hit or not, I would say that it depends on the game you're playing. You can always create a profile that enables the prime and big cores on FKM.
Overall I can say this, if you have an exynos 990 phone and getting real sucky battery life, rooting is the way to go. This phone just feels so much better with this extended battery life, and now rooting allows me to mod it as I want it or turn off things that weren't useful. Just be warned you will lose Google Pay and some apps from Samsung that use Knox, but for me what you get in return is so much valuable.
Please let me know if you have other questions from rooting the chip.
My Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G device is heating upto 46⁰+ in BGMI with Screen Recording and Max Brightness. Hows your?
Is this is normal?
please Help!
5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable.
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5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable
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5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable.
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So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
Abhishek5247 said:
So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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You said SD 780G with 5nm, why?
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So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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It's totally normal, don't worry about it if temp is fine during standard use.
Mine is 5G version not NE but with 780G Snap, only difference. Almost same processor.
sirgoldi said:
It's totally normal, don't worry about it if temp is fine during standard use.
Mine is 5G version not NE but with 780G Snap, only difference. Almost same processor.
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Yes bro, I have one more question that is When I was playing BGMI in that condition which mentioned above after temperature went above 46⁰+ the game became choppy and ping is also became poor. So, Is this also a normal? Or I should Return this please reply...
Abhishek5247 said:
Yes bro, I have one more question that is When I was playing BGMI in that condition which mentioned above after temperature went above 46⁰+ the game became choppy and ping is also became poor. So, Is this also a normal? Or I should Return this please reply...
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It is. Its name is throttling. It happens when chipset is getting too hot and processor/GPU has to slow down automatically as a safety measure to prevent it from damaging itself due to high temperature.
Mi 11 Lite 5G (NE) is pretty innovative design but also not the best choice for gamers as heat dissipation in those phones might be a bit affected because of less metal parts/radiators inside (to reduce its weight). Best would be to make a break or lower resolution/details. Or use fan blowing cold air into your phone in hands.
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So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
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It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
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what should be the maximum temperature during normal usage? See mine in attached files in full brightness and at auto brightness it is at approx 35⁰+. Please guide.
Abhishek5247 said:
what should be the maximum temperature during normal usage? See mine in attached files in full brightness and at auto brightness it is at approx 35⁰+. Please guide.
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Cannot 'guide' you. I didn't observe any heating (11 Lite 5G NE, MIUI 12.5.8) and I don't play any games (except solving 5x5x5x cube - but my brain lightly heats then, not the phone)
Consult the service.
If you are unhappy and if your return policy allows, return, pay the difference and take some Pro phone
Also do not expect any flagship with Snap 888 to be much cooler. Performance will be definitely higher but they tend to throttle too and heats like crazy if game is demanding.
Maybe Dimensity 1200 is better in terms of that and much cheaper.
According to the test from notebookcheck which always contains temperature the 5G NE should not heat when not in use. It has a much lower temperature than other devices.
Have a look if you have the wakelock bug. This would heat the device and drain battery.
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According to the test from notebookcheck which always contains temperature the 5G NE should not heat when not in use. It has a much lower temperature than other devices.
Have a look if you have the wakelock bug. This would heat the device and drain battery.
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How to find & resolve this bug?
Now the temperature is approx 38⁰ - 40⁰ during normal usage is this temperature is normal?
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It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
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And what if this unit is defective? How to find that this device is good in condition and others Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G devices facing the dame issues.
Wakelock bug:
I'm not sure how the menu is in English.
Settings (Einstellungen)
Battery (Akku)
Scroll a bit down
Change that list to "Details"
If you see "Wake/Awoke" (Wach) is a full line without any interruption, reboot. This resolves it, at least for this time.
It occurred on my device once, it is a Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro. I would be astaunished if it could not happen on the 11 Lite 5G NE.
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And what if this unit is defective? How to find that this device is good in condition and others Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G devices facing the dame issues.
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I really don't know, didn't observe (I don't use a lot my Lisa), hence frankly I'm also not interseted about - sorry (user like not, I'm not the Xiaomi helpdesk)
You can ask the service or exercise the return policy - if applicable (I'm not fully happy with my phone but I cannot return and take another unit or model)
Hopefully the answer from tag68 in the previous post can be much more useful for you
See the test on notebookcheck, there's a photo of a heatmap. Their measurement was the highest temperature when heavily used (benchmark) as 33.4 degree Celsius on the upper side, which is quite low compared to other models.
I have a doubt about what is measured during such tests, becaus my Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE overheats in direct sunlight like crazy. It cannot be used to take pictures, see anything on the screen.
I would not recommend this phone for a vacation trip where outdoor temperatures reach 30 or more degrees celsius. I got this overheating while downloading over LTE and after 4 minutes with outdoor temperature at 26 degrees, the phone simply shuts off GPS, BT, WiFi and LTE plus it shows the overheating warning on the display.
I had to turn my back to the sun to read the message, it is a very bad experience and I already regret that I fell for all these comments that the phone does not have any overheating issues. It has, big time and it is very sad that this is never mentioned in any reviews.
I did not buy a phone that must be carried in the dark and cannot be used in direct sunlight. This is simply a no go for me and I will return my phone at the next occasion for a refund.
Furthermore, I did the CPU throttling test and yes this phone with the SD 778 is throttling horribly, this is so bad. I returned my phone now for a refund.
Just as an example how other phones behave I have also tested the Mi 9 Lite, same throttling test, no issue at all the phone did not throttle a single bit whereas the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE did throttle after one minute from 100% to 80% and even further down. This phone is not fit for it's task, there are too many compromises made to the size and thickness of the phone.