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[Q] CM7 (TB) Wont restore data after build 17?

Hello All,
Background info:
Cyanogenmod 7 , Nightly #17, 1/27/11 is what I currently have
Most Updated Titanium Backup
Tried this on Build #18 and #20.
Basically after I install the 18 or 20 I get no errors. I then go to Titanium Back up and restore my apps. (Only apps , no system data )
Is anyone else having this issue or is this all on my end and if so i'll be investigating further.
THanks!
Kyle
EDIT: I Have forgot to mention that yes I did do a Back Up before i installed it. I have done this everyday but until 18 and 20 this is arose >.<

Well I'm not sure if you did, because you didn't specify, but did back up the data as well? Because there is a backup all apps and a backup all apps with data option, the second is about 6 boxes down from the first option. That seems to be the problem. I hope this helps any...

teh roxxorz said:
Well I'm not sure if you did, because you didn't specify, but did back up the data as well? Because there is a backup all apps and a backup all apps with data option, the second is about 6 boxes down from the first option. That seems to be the problem. I hope this helps any...
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Haha yea I did, i do a backup every night b4 install the new build. But not i cant seem to keep that data.... Ill edit my OP for saying that i did do a back up orignally

Kyledlindgren said:
Haha yea I did, i do a backup every night b4 install the new build. But not i cant seem to keep that data.... Ill edit my OP for saying that i did do a back up orignally
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Well I'm saying on the titanium backup, make sure to check the 4th option to back system data and apps. You can always check you SD card to make sure its there. I do the same and able to keep my data, also when you flash a build you don't have to wipe the data and cache, because it just updates since its technically an update.

teh roxxorz said:
Well I'm saying on the titanium backup, make sure to check the 4th option to back system data and apps. You can always check you SD card to make sure its there.
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yup i did that, been doing the same thing since i used lithid kanged builds, now i suddenly cant use that data?

Kyledlindgren said:
yup i did that, been doing the same thing since i used lithid kanged builds, now i suddenly cant use that data?
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And when you restore, you run the backup and restore all apps and data? And what data is missing, like the adw launcher settings, ect?

among other things like my twitter login and facebook and my vlc ****, though my ADW ex is still there which seems odd

i also cant open my market :/

additionally i get a error saying Google talk authentication failed...
Swype wont restore itself anymore, some apps like FB did restore the data this time, VLC did not, twitter didnt, my market is borked.
Not complaining, just seeing if anyone else has had issues?

Well wow, I don't know what to say. I would say try to re-flash your google gaps, and flash the newest set. I had some issues with older versions. I will keep trying to look into it.
link to google apps: http://www.mediafire.com/?qgt15ftd3gdby6v

yup i flashed what was in the clockwork mod file just now, 1/15/11, ill use this set to see what happens. It seems like my phone isnt linking to google since my icons are grayed out instead of color in the notifications bar

Yea, it doesn't seem like it is linking. But let me know what happens.

teh roxxorz said:
Yea, it doesn't seem like it is linking. But let me know what happens.
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kk, installing now, ill let you know ^_^

no good, "Google Talk Authentication failed" App market closes on opening, my power widgets i notcied reset to stock CM7
This is all bad but i CANT complain
ima revert back to my old build i think for #17 i did a back up of it just in case 20 didnt work

That really sucks man. I know it isn't the google apps because I'm using the same package. The last thing I can think of [that worked for me] is try to go back to build 20, use titanium backup to restore your apps, JUST the apps, no data, restore. It should work. Then backup all your apps and data and backup your rom.

Titanium Backup keeps crashing, am i alone?

Woke up today just to see that Titanium Backup had crashed during the scheduled backup tonight. Since then i haven't been able to do anything with it!
Sometimes it crashes right off the start, sometimes i can start a backup and have it crash about ~12-14% in. I tried going in to the settings and checking the "AUTO, indirect" setting that they recommend if you're having problems, but that didn't help either. (And it took me 3 tries to get in to the settings without it crashing!)
I've tried wiping all the app data, re-installing it, installing an older version (that they suggest on their website if having issues). I also tried re-setting the super user permissions for it. None of which helps!
I haven't found any information on it yet, so i assume i'm alone with this? Have anyone else been having the same issue?
Just emailed the support, but i imagine it will take at least a week for them to reply (if they do).
So, any suggestions?
EDIT: I just timed it and it appears to crash after approx 30 seconds, no matter what i do in the application. I Hope the developers sees this.
DOUBLE EDIT: It appears to be working again after updating to v4.9.0.1.

I don't do scheduled backups but the app hasn't failed me yet doing it manually.

well id suggest connecting to your pc and backup the titaniumbackup folder (that way you know all your backups are safe)
then making a nandroid backup
then flashing another ROM or just wiping and reflashing the same ROM you're using

nonione said:
well id suggest connecting to your pc and backup the titaniumbackup folder (that way you know all your backups are safe)
then making a nandroid backup
then flashing another ROM or just wiping and reflashing the same ROM you're using
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The backups i have stored are outdated now, i've changed a lot since the last update. The plan all along was to do a titanium backup, sync it to dropbox, flash this rom, and then restore all my apps etc. So i'm really kind of out of options now, unless i download everything manually and set everything up again. Doesn't sound very fun tbh. I might just try to find an alternative to titanium, but i'd really like to get it working again. Nothing seems to help.

You are not alone!
Hi, just to say you are not alone. Your case 99% similar to mine.
Just encountered this freeze after the app update on 18/19 Mar and the app will freeze even when I do nothing in the app. And yes, what a coincidence, the app when backup under schedule has stopped (with screen save off) at 14% completion.
Tried the method of deleting the app data and reinstall the app and even worse, now the app stops right when launching after a moment of black screen.
Already filed email and log file to support hopefully there will be an answer...

Hi, I'm also having exactly the same problem with TBU. Am on the pro version.
This has been a problem for about a week now. Not sure if it doesn't play nicely with CM9 or the kernel i'm running. What are you guys running? I may re-flash stock ICS and see if it still gives me problems. Quick question, does reflashing stock ICS remove root? I read somewhere it does and just want to get some different opinons.
Am running a CM9 nightly with Franco Kernal on GMS Galaxy Nexus.

gardy09 said:
Hi, I'm also having exactly the same problem with TBU. Am on the pro version.
This has been a problem for about a week now. Not sure if it doesn't play nicely with CM9 or the kernel i'm running. What are you guys running? I may re-flash stock ICS and see if it still gives me problems. Quick question, does reflashing stock ICS remove root? I read somewhere it does and just want to get some different opinons.
Am running a CM9 nightly with Franco Kernal on GMS Galaxy Nexus.
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I am also on pro version. Mine is at stock 4.0.2.
And yes, if you re-flash stock you lose root and have to re-root.
I am very very suspecting the crash is something related to the license checking of pro-key so that will explain why the program will crash in 20-30 sec without any special action doing or launching in the app. Just my guess... Hope the support will answer back shortly...

Thanks for the help, have uninstalled for now, will you post if the dev gets back to you?
Interesting that it's happening across a range of different setups.

Anybody hove a solution yet?

Dqm56 said:
Anybody hove a solution yet?
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@Dqm56, you have same problem too? Very frustrating ... Still no reply from titanium backup developer... But I know tehy are busy ...

i read somewhere that clear play store data and cache solve the issue with titanium

morphlinghk said:
@Dqm56, you have same problem too? Very frustrating ... Still no reply from titanium backup developer... But I know tehy are busy ...
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Yes I have exact same problem it is very frustrating

andQlimax said:
i read somewhere that clear play store data and cache solve the issue with titanium
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Oh my god! It works!!!!! I love you @andQlimax!
To all: Yes, the problem solved after I clear the cache and data of the play store. Beware that I also cleared out data of titanium backup before that when tackling the problem, but you may not need to...

IT WORKS!!!!!!!

Thanks, been without backups since play came. I had tried to clear Google Play Store cache but not data and that fixed it.

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i read somewhere that clear play store data and cache solve the issue with titanium
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Finally my issue got solved

Thank you very much, guys!
After a few days of desperate waiting for an update of TB, you made my day. Clearing caches and data of Titanium and Google Play solved the problem.

I would've never solved this big distress without you guys, you r my saaaaaaaviors, my superheroes

[Q] Help troubleshooting Google Play freeze after app install

I'd been using FF18 for quite a while without incident, but after upgrading to FI27 (not OTA, via the one-click method), Google Play is hanging the system immediately after successfully downloading and installing any given app. It puts me on the usual page allowing me to open the app, I press open, and wham, the system freezes until it reboots automatically about a minute later. The app that I installed then runs fine.
(In testing this several times, I should mention that one time I actually was able to open an app I just installed, but it hung about 10 seconds in, and the system rebooted as usual. It ran fine after that.)
I've searched around a bit for this and see that I'm hardly the first to encounter this issue. Sometimes it occurs when no recent update has been performed at all. Unfortunately, I haven't really found a solution yet. The best I've seen is to delete the data for Google Play and Download manager, and rebooting, which I've done to no effect. I've also tried uninstalling Google Play, but I think in this case that just leaves me with the same version that I had, the one that came with FI27 (in any case, that didn't help either).
How does one go about troubleshooting this type of problem? I suppose wiping out the phone and starting over would fix it, but I was hoping for more of a surgical rather than nuclear approach. After all, on a PC, you don't reformat when you have a problem with a program.

Have you tried wiping the data for google services framework?
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patrao_n said:
Have you tried wiping the data for google services framework?
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I hadn't, but I did just now (there was just over 4MB there), along with a reboot following, and unfortunately it didn't help. Maybe Google Play services too, or something else?

Try deleting data for anything that says google play.
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You stated you upgraded so I'm assuming you didn't do a fresh install. Even if you did do a fresh install, restoring data & apps from an older version could cause problems. You should try a fresh load and work your way back from there.
Edit: Saw you did the one-click. Still think you should try a full wipe and try it again with a fresh load to see how it goes.

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Try deleting data for anything that says google play.
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I've now done that (though one or two had no data), along with the framework one you mentioned earlier, followed by a reboot, but it still happens. Arghh!
tdunham said:
You stated you upgraded so I'm assuming you didn't do a fresh install. Even if you did do a fresh install, restoring data & apps from an older version could cause problems. You should try a fresh load and work your way back from there.
Edit: Saw you did the one-click. Still think you should try a full wipe and try it again with a fresh load to see how it goes.
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Yes, I chose the nodata FI27, since it said that it was good for same-version or upgrades (in this case, ICS to ICS), but I will choose the nuke-from-space one if there's no way out of this, though wouldn't just resetting to factory defaults at this point do the same thing?
It's a little bit disturbing that an issue with one app, albeit an important (though not essential) one, can require wiping the phone. If this were to come up again for some reason, maybe just one day out of the blue and not related to putting on a new ROM, it would be nice to know a way out.
Perhaps I can grab a log from somewhere with ADB?

rseiler said:
I've now done that (though one or two had no data), along with the framework one you mentioned earlier, followed by a reboot, but it still happens. Arghh!
Yes, I chose the nodata FI27, since it said that it was good for same-version or upgrades (in this case, ICS to ICS), but I will choose the nuke-from-space one if there's no way out of this, though wouldn't just resetting to factory defaults at this point do the same thing?
It's a little bit disturbing that an issue with one app, albeit an important (though not essential) one, can require wiping the phone. If this were to come up again for some reason, maybe just one day out of the blue and not related to putting on a new ROM, it would be nice to know a way out.
Perhaps I can grab a log from somewhere with ADB?
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If you have a custom kernel with recovery make a backup. Or get one and do it and then do a full wipe and fresh load. That is the only way you'll know for sure.

Yes, I will, but I thought I'd live with it a while to see what I could learn.
I've found that opening the newly-installed app is not the issue: simply installing a new app is. If I wait on the "Open" screen right after an install, and do nothing, within a minute the system will freeze and reboot.
Interestingly, updating apps does not trigger the problem, as numerous apps have updated this week, even one that Google Play wanted me to approve manually. Go figure.
Anyway, I have a logcat of an example in case anyone is interested. In this case, I initiated an install at 15:26, which is when the log begins. It ends shortly after the reboot.
http://tny.cz/0b86937c

Camera unresponsive

My camera for my Galaxy Nexus has been broke for the last several weeks.
When opened, a black screen opens before shortly thereafter giving the message "gallery is unresponsive" and force closes.
I restored to AOKP build 3, updated the ROM to build 4 and flashed that (after corresponding factory reset, wipe data/cache/dalvik).
Now the camera opens, shows the "take picture" etc buttons but still has a black screen and force closes.
I assume while flashing different ROMs I had restored using Titanium backup a system setting/app that caused this problem.
I understand this question has been asked, but I have to find a solution to my problem (I have done battery pull etc.)
Any help will be appreciated.

I should mention that I have had a couple messages over the previous couple weeks where it says "SIM card invalid" and phone restarts.
I have not had this message is several days.

have you tried a different ROM?
use RootBox 4.2.2
ive been using it no problems and amazing battery life, not to mention the smoothness and pure awesomeness of the ROM

Jack Jake said:
have you tried a different ROM?
use RootBox 4.2.2
ive been using it no problems and amazing battery life, not to mention the smoothness and pure awesomeness of the ROM
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Yes. Originally this problem happened shortly after flashing codename. With this ROM, a black screen would show and then "gallery is unresponsive."
I reverted to AOKP and flashed updated version. Now camera app opens, shows the take picture etc. buttons on bottom but where the actual picture should be stays black and gallery goes unresponsive.
Have also tried deleting camera apk and re-flashing a downloading camera zip file. Same problem.

biggie3201 said:
Yes. Originally this problem happened shortly after flashing codename. With this ROM, a black screen would show and then "gallery is unresponsive."
I reverted to AOKP and flashed updated version. Now camera app opens, shows the take picture etc. buttons on bottom but where the actual picture should be stays black and gallery goes unresponsive.
Have also tried deleting camera apk and re-flashing a downloading camera zip file. Same problem.
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have you tried clearing data and cache for the gallery app? try that

Jack Jake said:
have you tried clearing data and cache for the gallery app? try that
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Cleared data and cache for the app. Same issue.
Very frustrating issue.

Fast boot flash back to stock. If camera is still acting up then its more than likely hardware issues
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do you get any messages after boy saying something like: com.xxx.xxx has unexpectedly stopped. this has happened to me to. you have to format your sd card. try that
remember to backup all your important file from the sd card to your computer EXCEPT the DCIM (where a'll your pictures and stuff are. anything related to the gallery don't backup)

Why not try a complete wipe.
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase system
In that order
then fastboot back to stock as mentioned by namtombout.
If that doesn't work it is indeed a hardware issue.

Jack Jake said:
do you get any messages after boy saying something like: com.xxx.xxx has unexpectedly stopped. this has happened to me to. you have to format your sd card. try that
remember to backup all your important file from the sd card to your computer EXCEPT the DCIM (where a'll your pictures and stuff are. anything related to the gallery don't backup)
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I don't think I've got any of these messages..
I will attempt the complete wipe per instructions in this thread (simply working up to the time that I actually will go through with it). I'm thinking I must have restored some system settings/camera settings from titanium backup during one of my recent ROM changes.
My battery life has been awfully poor lately as well....wondering if the restore of some system setting screwed with that as well...
Hopefully the complete wipe will get things back in order.

biggie3201 said:
I don't think I've got any of these messages..
I will attempt the complete wipe per instructions in this thread (simply working up to the time that I actually will go through with it). I'm thinking I must have restored some system settings/camera settings from titanium backup during one of my recent ROM changes.
Hopefully the complete wipe will get things back in order.
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after you complete the wipe, DO NOT use titanium backup to restore your apps (even user apps). try fresh ones from the play store and see if that helps. if not im afraid you will have to go back to stock and then root again, flash a new ROM again, and then download your apps from the play store.
this problem has happened to me with my old phone (Samsung Captivate) but the formatting of the SD card fixed that for a while, when it started again i did the steps above and the phone worked better than ever.

[Q] Insufficient Storage Available problem

OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.

OK well let me ask something differently then and maybe I can get some help. Being that I'm new I need 9 new posts before I can go to the devs page and ask there anyway...
Does anyone know what folders/files are critical to keep on the device? I can nuke the rest and try again.
Would starting with a blank SD card make difference?
Thanks again.

Well not really the external sd card is only for apps moved to sd card. You should just fully flash and start over. That is what I have had to do. I hope this helps you out.
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bluesmantj said:
OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.
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but the idea of what is happening here is not making sence I do not get why a full wipe and full reflash would not fix your issue here if you are doing it all right.
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From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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tiny4579 said:
From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!

bluesmantj said:
Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!
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Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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tiny4579 said:
Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore

bluesmantj said:
No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore
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Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.

Sounds similar to me. I can only fit about 30 apps. Most are small but I do have chrome. I swear I had more before jumping to 4.x. That is why I was considering a datamedia build but I haven't had time lately to play with it.
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tiny4579 said:
Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.
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Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.

bluesmantj said:
Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.
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Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.

bluesmantj said:
Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.
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You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?

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Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?
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If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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tiny4579 said:
If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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Oh cool, never thought of that, I've only ever upgraded as a result of running out of space or things slowing down so I've never really wanted to back up and restore those before.
Right... So factory wipe
install cm11/gapps
only terminal emulator installed...
/data size 748M Used 109.8M Free 638.2M
/data/data size 149M Used 29.3M Free 119.7M
Although this is a huge decrease...
connecting as USB shows that basically all of the files on the phone itself remain, so the factory reset essentially doesn't wipe any of the data from the phone?????
Thanks again!

When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd

bluesmantj said:
When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd
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If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?

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Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?
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putting a magnet to a piece of flash storage does not destroy it, also from that used info it looks like it is just the data from the gapps... Try going into recovery and doing an advanced wipe, then checking everything but external sd and swiping to wipe

So it seems like we never really came to a solution here.
Has anyone tried increasing the sizes of these partitions. The /data/data only being 150mb is really limiting. Facebook likes to take 50mbs on it's own. I wondered if it would be possible to increase the storage of the internal partition and that /data/data folder. For most of us the purchasing of a large SD card for storing music and pictures and stuff is no big deal, if I could devote more of the internal storage to applications that would be awesome.