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the problem with the default x1 camera application:
-very big application with very slow startup time
-very slow interface
-require too many clicks to change the mode or the settings
now im not asking to make a full fledged camera application as that would take too much time. i am asking for a very simple and lightwaight camera application that can simply start right away into sports mode with infinite focus and flash as this seems like the quickest and most practical
shooting mode on our X1. or simply start to the last used mode in the SE camera app
i just want to have a very quick way to to take good pics.
on my old 2003 magican it takes me only 2-3 seconds to quickly start the application and take the first pic. on the xperia it takes no less the a ridicoulus 7 seconds because of the camera application.
i find the rhodium's camera to be quick and good quality.. but when there is light sometime could get overexposed lock until u take another pic.. but definitely heaps faster than SE camera.. drawback also is u cant use the camera button to use rhodium..
maybe someone can do a quick one by porting one of the old apps like the ones that come with the htc wizard/magican. these cameras apps are very small and they startup in a second
Actually I think if one want a 'simple' camera, get a 'simple phone'!
For me, I would like a camera that WORKS 100%! So whatever the features, as long as they work fast and correct, that is what I want!
michaelthemage said:
Actually I think if one want a 'simple' camera, get a 'simple phone'!
For me, I would like a camera that WORKS 100%! So whatever the features, as long as they work fast and correct, that is what I want!
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you are TOTALLY missing the point. what i am proposing is in not to replace the camera but to have an additional one that can start and take a good pic in about 2 seconds instead of about 7 seconds right now
this would greatly increase the practicality and usefulness of the camera
Aha.... you want a 2nd(!) camera because of a 5 second difference....!
Well, as for me, I want a camera that works and records without pixelation, etc. as the current one does!
I'm with the GRIZZ. 5 seconds often makes all the difference, especially when you have bought a phone specifically so that you can have a decent camera on you at all times.
A lightweight camera app would be fantastic but I suspect it would take some pretty fancy programming to make work.
ring-bearer said:
A lightweight camera app would be fantastic but I suspect it would take some pretty fancy programming to make work.
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im not sure about that our xperia runs the 'HD or rhodium cameras fine. also the very old imate kjam runs the relativly new touch viva camera on some of the new cooked roms.
how hard can it be to to simply port a very small and old camera application like the one that comes with the magican or wizard.
defenatly worth a try but unfortunatly im no good at programing or even hacking. anybody willing to give this a shot?
michaelthemage said:
Aha.... you want a 2nd(!) camera because of a 5 second difference....!
Well, as for me, I want a camera that works and records without pixelation, etc. as the current one does!
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why are you expecting it to be pixely or blury. its using the same hardware at as the SE camera application the end of the day. if the app boots to the sport mode with infinite focus (the faststest and best mode SE camera does anyway)it should be able to take very good pics. infact you will be able to take better pics because you will now be able to take 3 pics in the same time that normally takes you 1 picture with the default camera
of course the ultimite solution is for sony to make a much faster camera but i wouldnt hold my breath for that. their newer camera application with gps and autoflash is even slower than the original application which was also slow
i say we make a proof of concept first before we judge the practicality of this.
I totally agree on the importance of speed on phone camera's. The main reason to have one on a phone is to take swift pictures on the fly when you don't have a digital camera at hand but want to capture the moment.
In my humble opinion, if you want super quality pictures, get a digital camera, thats what they're for. On a phone i prefer speed rather than quality. (not saying Xperia doesnt take decent pictures (; )
In new custom ROMs (as in mine, check sig) the cam takes only 2secs to start and focus is very fast! I don't know how the R3A Cam behaves if used as cab...but cooked in it is very fast!!
derliebewolf said:
In new custom ROMs (as in mine, check sig) the cam takes only 2secs to start and focus is very fast! I don't know how the R3A Cam behaves if used as cab...but cooked in it is very fast!!
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2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus
currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom
ill go and test your rom
thanks
THE GRIZZ said:
2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus
currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom
ill go and test your rom
thanks
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i copied and pasted the rs camera folder over the old one and put it on auto focus and auto flash and it seems a lot faster, maybe not 2 secs fast but faster than the old software
THE GRIZZ said:
2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus
currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom
ill go and test your rom
thanks
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Let us know what you find.
Otherwise, shouldn't there be a cab floating around from one of the simpler HTC camera apps? Why not just try one of those?
Someone could also experiment with Speedbooster 2 and assign the camera to top priority. I would but I don't have it.
ring-bearer said:
Someone could also experiment with Speedbooster 2 and assign the camera to top priority. I would but I don't have it.
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Yes, I think that would work.
You only need to improve the speed of camera.exe or the name of the camera process, and it should go faster.
The good thing is that the trial version allows you to control one task, so this is exactly what you need.
Cab here.
How-to-do-it Video demo here.
radhoo said:
Yes, I think that would work.
You only need to improve the speed of camera.exe or the name of the camera process, and it should go faster.
The good thing is that the trial version allows you to control one task, so this is exactly what you need.
Cab here.
How-to-do-it Video demo here.
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Doesn't work on my device... not sure why. It loaded the 1st time but then never again, even after reinstalls. Strange...
flash one of itjes roms...
they contain the htc topaz/rhodium camera...
it takes pictures instantly and is the same quality as the stock camera
i flashed so many roms and while the speed of the startup and taking the first picture is not too bad, its still much slower than what can be achived if it was a simpler & lighter application.
the fastest i managed to get was about 5 seconds on the rohdium camera
And how fast would that be if you increase the .exe process of the camera to maximum priority?
I'm using a diamond and I'm happy with the default camera speed.
I was playing with XL2 in Verizon Store, trying to check out that portrait mode with one lense. You don't have to move camera, as before for pixel 1, but when picture is done I couldn't find menu to adjust amount of background blur. Why is that?
worry said:
I was playing with XL2 in Verizon Store, trying to check out that portrait mode with one lense. You don't have to move camera, as before for pixel 1, but when picture is done I couldn't find menu to adjust amount of background blur. Why is that?
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ask google
flex360 said:
ask google
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Don't you have better things to do like copy someones work ? You've been trolling this place almost as long as I've been a member, God get a life.
mhsbrian said:
Don't you have better things to do like copy someones work ? You've been trolling this place almost as long as I've been a member, God get a life.
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And what have you contributed to the xda community? Nothing.
As I said, ask Google because that's not a feature in the Google photo app. If you want to edit blur intensity get a Samsung or LG phone.
It used to be in the previous pixel, why removing it?
Better use this one port
Probably you all may try and find out how to get best shots
Remember to set HDR+ mote to enhanced
Where's the original thread this came from? I'd like to do some more reading up on it.
CHH2 said:
Where's the original thread this came from? I'd like to do some more reading up on it.
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I installed this version as of yesterday. Not sure if the OP's post is newer but this is a good start on info.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/
qualitymove13 said:
I installed this version as of yesterday. Not sure if the OP's post is newer but this is a good start on info.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/
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Ok, I've seen that stuff before. So this is still the same line of that port where we have to dig through menus in hopes of finding the magic combo to make HDR stuff work? I had zero luck with that in a previous version. And did you use the same download link?
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Ok, I've seen that stuff before. So this is still the same line of that port where we have to dig through menus in hopes of finding the magic combo to make HDR stuff work? I had zero luck with that in a previous version. And did you use the same download link?
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I used the download at the bottom of the link I sent you. Seems to be the same port you mention but to be honest, I havent even played with it yet.
Yeah, I'm definitely going to need to find the original link to this from a reputable source. Just tried clicking into the link in the OP from work and the safeguard software that usually comes up yellow/gold for sites that are not allowed came up red. That's a first for me and enough for me to not download from that site.
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Yeah, I'm definitely going to need to find the original link to this from a reputable source. Just tried clicking into the link in the OP from work and the safeguard software that usually comes up yellow/gold for sites that are not allowed came up red. That's a first for me and enough for me to not download from that site.
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You may fetch it there https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962021903579488245 and then compare bit-by-bit with file uploaded my me, should be identical
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You may fetch it there https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962021903579488245 and then compare bit-by-bit with file uploaded my me, should be identical
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I can tell you a side by side won't happen. That's the first time I've ever seen that severe of a warning pop-up for a site before so I won't be going there. I did load from the this link though and it looks like this still requires some set-up to get HDR working on it. It's dark out now so I won't know until later.
I tried the google camera. However, I find GP camera app sometimes adds more noise but does not over expose as much as LG camera. However, in some cases the LG is better...Guess it just depends on the situation. Here are some sames I took in auto mode using the same focus point (touched area to make sure they both focused on same object). of course the ones with the post it GP on them is the Google Camera app. These are in low light to very low light.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=SVQ0dTNfY2dfSDBObEJKRE9nMEJCc2RkMG9EY3Fn
ya....i have the same opinions. V30 camera app at times produces better photos, where others Pixel 2 Camera does.
Pixel 2 ZERO SHUTTER LAG is no joke though, and i'm not sure if HDR+ is occuring as since if so the HDR+ is done within a split second with no status.
Is this better or the same as Google camera NX 7.1?
I found this link on reddit and a user there has said to download the newest Arnova port. https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
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I found this link on reddit and a user there has said to download the newest Arnova port. https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
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with this version i actually am seeing the HDR+ processing post image capture. There are a lot less options available in this version though.
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with this version i actually am seeing the HDR+ processing post image capture. There are a lot less options available in this version though.
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Me too. Have to play with it a bit more but it looks like the main banner features are working using the suggested settings.
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I found this link on reddit and a user there has said to download the newest Arnova port. https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
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I'd been looking for a working recent version for awhile. The other ones I could find were either an older version, or the updated version with all the options, but didn't work. Thank you for this! Going to test in a bit. I know it won't be Pixel 2 quality, but if I could match S8/N8 quality, I'd be super happy.
ok...so last night i was doing a bit of testing with Arnova's 5.1.014_v8.1 (Android 7+): same as BSG's v.4.0, but based on the new GCamera 5.1.x, with settings set as listed below. I do have to say...image quality as well as color reproduction is better than with the V30's camera. the difference is slight, but noticeable when you zoom into hard to focus lock area's. color reproduction is also a touch better. one thing to note though was I did run into a few freeze or hick ups with GCMod 5.1. When I'd press the shutter button, it would grey the screen, or do nothing. Would have to press the shutter button 2-5 times sometimes but it eventually would take the photo. Not always but sometimes this would occur.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74290748&postcount=1016
Settings:
Model: Pixel 2XL (or Nexus 6P if you want more detailed images)
Config camera HDR+: Nexus6 HDR+ Auto Zsl (or Nexus6 HDR+ Auto)
HDR+ parameters: Medium (or higher)
To enable the HDR+ UI button: Settings > Advanced > HDR+ control (img)
The rest (video resolution, camera sounds, etc) is up to you.
Warning: You need to restart the app so the new settings are applied.
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I've tested the front cam with the port at the above settings but LG's own camera comes out better every time. Does anyone have a different experience?
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These settings are for 1+3 which is on 820 snap
The proper for V30 is Settings:
Model: Pixel 2XL
Config camera HDR+: Pixel + Smartburst
HDR+ parameters: Very High
To enable the HDR+ UI button: Settings > Advanced > HDR+ control (img)
And use that port https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74356238&postcount=7
Droid Life today says the V30 Oreo beta is available to a select group of users in Korea. Naturally they cite "speed improvements" and I'm sure the camera software is lumped into that.
http://social.lge.co.kr/newsroom/lg_v30_os_1102/
I'd have to guess that at some point "too soon" in the V30's Nougat development, the team was forced to say "that's good enough -- ship it" and move on to 8.0 (or 8.1 -- fingers crossed) development. No sense in wasting resources perfecting an already out-of-date OS..
It's unfortunate the timing works out the way it does -- surely this results in some of the critiques the phone has received, and those blemishes can't be easily undone, even if they release a *flawless* Oreo in the next couple of months with a fully optimized camera experience.
As usual, simply having this app installed on my device causes a battery drain. Oh well. It works rather well though.
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My question is in the title. I mean since the hardware is not that bad. Is it possible that a decent port of a camera application that will do a better job in the processing of the images clicked be available and possible?
Yes, it did for the op5 so surely it would do the same for 5t
Yes and no, it depends on if OnePlus fixed the issues with their camera HAL.
On the OP5, the HDR+ is causing a dot pattern in light areas which basically ruins the photos.
Also it has issues with touch focus.
This thread might help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...-camera-ported-app-op5t-t3708132/post74586647
who can verify if this has been fixed?
edit: can the user in the "ask away" thread find out somehow if something has been changed or fixed?
edit 2 (face palm): it should all be answered in the above link as soon as someone follows thru with the required testing.
AcmE85 said:
Yes and no, it depends on if OnePlus fixed the issues with their camera HAL.
On the OP5, the HDR+ is causing a dot pattern in light areas which basically ruins the photos.
Also it has issues with touch focus.
This thread might help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...-camera-ported-app-op5t-t3708132/post74586647
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I'm assuming since we have a change in hardware someone can come up a decent port that will take advantage of the second 20mp cam to improve upon low light more than what OP have already done.
Hi guys, I just got my oneplus 5T today and i want to talk to you about the quality of the photos of this phone and how this camera setup is helping or not ?
For me, it's a waste of the second camera slot to use this "night camera module" ...
First of all i don't see the diference (using the pro mode and switch between the twos) and second, there is no other functions of the phone that use this second camera to improve anything (at least it shoud he use to combine two photos and result in a better pixel quality but since they have the same lens i don't think this helps either)
So what do you think guys ?
prologikus said:
Hi guys, I just got my oneplus 5T today and i want to talk to you about the quality of the photos of this phone and how this camera setup is helping or not ?
For me, it's a waste of the second camera slot to use this "night camera module" ...
First of all i don't see the diference (using the pro mode and switch between the twos) and second, there is no other functions of the phone that use this second camera to improve anything (at least it shoud he use to combine two photos and result in a better pixel quality but since they have the same lens i don't think this helps either)
So what do you think guys ?
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In my opinion, I think they should implement the same feature as the essential phone. Using both cameras to create on single and good looking picture. If they can, they could make the main lens take all the details of the image and make the 2nd lens take all of the light and then somehow merge both images to create a perfect one.
Probably never going to happen though......
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In my opinion, I think they should implement the same feature as the essential phone. Using both cameras to create on single and good looking picture. If they can, they could make the main lens take all the details of the image and make the 2nd lens take all of the light and then somehow merge both images to create a perfect one.
Probably never going to happen though......
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They can't do it now because "the black and white sensor has had its top layer’s color filter removed. Without it, the sensor is unable to capture color, but its ability to capture light increases by 3x. This is especially helpful with low-light environments."(qualcomm clear sight)
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They can't do it now because "the black and white sensor has had its top layer’s color filter removed. Without it, the sensor is unable to capture color, but its ability to capture light increases by 3x. This is especially helpful with low-light environments."(qualcomm clear sight)
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I guess we'll just have to wait for oneplus to release an update improving their camera's performance.....
Or if you look online, you might be able to find a ported google camera with hdr+