the problem with the default x1 camera application:
-very big application with very slow startup time
-very slow interface
-require too many clicks to change the mode or the settings
now im not asking to make a full fledged camera application as that would take too much time. i am asking for a very simple and lightwaight camera application that can simply start right away into sports mode with infinite focus and flash as this seems like the quickest and most practical
shooting mode on our X1. or simply start to the last used mode in the SE camera app
i just want to have a very quick way to to take good pics.
on my old 2003 magican it takes me only 2-3 seconds to quickly start the application and take the first pic. on the xperia it takes no less the a ridicoulus 7 seconds because of the camera application.
i find the rhodium's camera to be quick and good quality.. but when there is light sometime could get overexposed lock until u take another pic.. but definitely heaps faster than SE camera.. drawback also is u cant use the camera button to use rhodium..
maybe someone can do a quick one by porting one of the old apps like the ones that come with the htc wizard/magican. these cameras apps are very small and they startup in a second
Actually I think if one want a 'simple' camera, get a 'simple phone'!
For me, I would like a camera that WORKS 100%! So whatever the features, as long as they work fast and correct, that is what I want!
michaelthemage said:
Actually I think if one want a 'simple' camera, get a 'simple phone'!
For me, I would like a camera that WORKS 100%! So whatever the features, as long as they work fast and correct, that is what I want!
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you are TOTALLY missing the point. what i am proposing is in not to replace the camera but to have an additional one that can start and take a good pic in about 2 seconds instead of about 7 seconds right now
this would greatly increase the practicality and usefulness of the camera
Aha.... you want a 2nd(!) camera because of a 5 second difference....!
Well, as for me, I want a camera that works and records without pixelation, etc. as the current one does!
I'm with the GRIZZ. 5 seconds often makes all the difference, especially when you have bought a phone specifically so that you can have a decent camera on you at all times.
A lightweight camera app would be fantastic but I suspect it would take some pretty fancy programming to make work.
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A lightweight camera app would be fantastic but I suspect it would take some pretty fancy programming to make work.
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im not sure about that our xperia runs the 'HD or rhodium cameras fine. also the very old imate kjam runs the relativly new touch viva camera on some of the new cooked roms.
how hard can it be to to simply port a very small and old camera application like the one that comes with the magican or wizard.
defenatly worth a try but unfortunatly im no good at programing or even hacking. anybody willing to give this a shot?
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Aha.... you want a 2nd(!) camera because of a 5 second difference....!
Well, as for me, I want a camera that works and records without pixelation, etc. as the current one does!
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why are you expecting it to be pixely or blury. its using the same hardware at as the SE camera application the end of the day. if the app boots to the sport mode with infinite focus (the faststest and best mode SE camera does anyway)it should be able to take very good pics. infact you will be able to take better pics because you will now be able to take 3 pics in the same time that normally takes you 1 picture with the default camera
of course the ultimite solution is for sony to make a much faster camera but i wouldnt hold my breath for that. their newer camera application with gps and autoflash is even slower than the original application which was also slow
i say we make a proof of concept first before we judge the practicality of this.
I totally agree on the importance of speed on phone camera's. The main reason to have one on a phone is to take swift pictures on the fly when you don't have a digital camera at hand but want to capture the moment.
In my humble opinion, if you want super quality pictures, get a digital camera, thats what they're for. On a phone i prefer speed rather than quality. (not saying Xperia doesnt take decent pictures (; )
In new custom ROMs (as in mine, check sig) the cam takes only 2secs to start and focus is very fast! I don't know how the R3A Cam behaves if used as cab...but cooked in it is very fast!!
derliebewolf said:
In new custom ROMs (as in mine, check sig) the cam takes only 2secs to start and focus is very fast! I don't know how the R3A Cam behaves if used as cab...but cooked in it is very fast!!
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2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus
currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom
ill go and test your rom
thanks
THE GRIZZ said:
2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus
currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom
ill go and test your rom
thanks
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i copied and pasted the rs camera folder over the old one and put it on auto focus and auto flash and it seems a lot faster, maybe not 2 secs fast but faster than the old software
THE GRIZZ said:
2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus
currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom
ill go and test your rom
thanks
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Let us know what you find.
Otherwise, shouldn't there be a cab floating around from one of the simpler HTC camera apps? Why not just try one of those?
Someone could also experiment with Speedbooster 2 and assign the camera to top priority. I would but I don't have it.
ring-bearer said:
Someone could also experiment with Speedbooster 2 and assign the camera to top priority. I would but I don't have it.
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Yes, I think that would work.
You only need to improve the speed of camera.exe or the name of the camera process, and it should go faster.
The good thing is that the trial version allows you to control one task, so this is exactly what you need.
Cab here.
How-to-do-it Video demo here.
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Yes, I think that would work.
You only need to improve the speed of camera.exe or the name of the camera process, and it should go faster.
The good thing is that the trial version allows you to control one task, so this is exactly what you need.
Cab here.
How-to-do-it Video demo here.
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Doesn't work on my device... not sure why. It loaded the 1st time but then never again, even after reinstalls. Strange...
flash one of itjes roms...
they contain the htc topaz/rhodium camera...
it takes pictures instantly and is the same quality as the stock camera
i flashed so many roms and while the speed of the startup and taking the first picture is not too bad, its still much slower than what can be achived if it was a simpler & lighter application.
the fastest i managed to get was about 5 seconds on the rohdium camera
And how fast would that be if you increase the .exe process of the camera to maximum priority?
I'm using a diamond and I'm happy with the default camera speed.
Related
the hermes front camera cannot be used to take pictures of yourself, but the camera from trinity has an extra special icon where you can click to change the cameras
is it possible to get the camera software from trinity and flash it into my hermes? anybody knows?
Use the search! It's been discussed before. (Yes, it's possible to use the Trinity's camera driver but you lose the LED flash.)
A better option is ATEKsoft's software.
(Longing for grainy VGA shots of your face?)
Don't you have the shiny self portrait mirror next to the main lens for that???
Oggy.
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And loving every minute of this new toy
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Your sig reminded me of this article - how everything gets "old" eventually.
I have installed the Dutty ButtonFLO ROM on my JASJAM. The camera app though isn't that latest with the Kaiser look. Has anyone got the cab for the latest HTC Camera app somewhere.
Thanks
they need to make one with real zoom.. thats the only thing i dont leik about the phone.
TurboX2 said:
they need to make one with real zoom.. thats the only thing i dont leik about the phone.
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tried Cool Camera? it's a free to use application and i find it much more useful on the hermes especially since i can use it to select the forward 3g camera for self portraits hehehehe
cyberjak said:
tried Cool Camera? it's a free to use application and i find it much more useful on the hermes especially since i can use it to select the forward 3g camera for self portraits hehehehe
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It's not free to use.
camera
correct it is not free, the beta, if you can find it will work for a while.
The big change I would like to see is a better night shot feature, I had a wizard and with Cool Camera, you could select night and it acted like a night vision camera, it worked real well in low light.
I know the camera is able to do the function, it's just the programming that needs to be reworked.
yeah the camera can definatly be able to do that, but it just needs a program that will be able to do the cropping and expanding without killing the processor when taking a video and zooming.
thats why i liked nokias so much.. u could pritty much make an entire home movie on a nokia, and it will look professional.
the graduated zoom on them is amazing,...
Hi,
I have used different roms, including the orignal one, i always face the problelm with the camera, when i press the camrea button to take the snap, it capture the photo after 2,3 seconds, and in that time, (pplz have moved, and its always blurr), how i can remove this Lag time for the camera, so it take the photo shot, as soon i press the camera button.
this is really irritating and annoying, Hope to get some true solution to it.
Regards
Jade
There is a quick fix to the lag. Go to focus options and choose the infinite one!
I tried via this way many time, but still facing lag problem while taking the pictures, the snap shot is taken after 1-2 seconds of pressing the camera key.
Is there any repair, or fix CAB for it , or some other solution.
Regards
Jade
General Tip
the easy way is to use sport mode (i made it the default scene mode). however you will always not like the color it get, but acceptable in bright light condition. Next, i set the focus to infinite, manual white balance. The rest will depend on your phone software/system configuration.
if you are willing/knowlege enough, i suggest to change the system cache (cache,repl,gdi,fat entry cache,block transfer) just big/small enough for your need. Too small = sluggish respond, too large = may unstable the phone, data lost/corrupt, random lockups.
Oh, do try the xperia x2 vga driver and sdcard tuneup if you haven't already.
Try HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/Captparam and set CapKeyDelayTime to 0.
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Try HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/Captparam and set CapKeyDelayTime to 0.
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That's the one! Or use Xperia Tweak, and look for shutter delay in the camera section, if you don't want to edit the registry directly yourself.
does anybody have this problems with x1 camera..... the result of the picture is darker when you transfer it to a pc or upload it.... its only show the true color on the xperia image preview, when actually its too dark... any one ???
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Try HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/Captparam and set CapKeyDelayTime to 0.
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I just didn't find such entry in the X1 registry. Should I add one or whatever wrong with my machine?
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That's the one! Or use Xperia Tweak, and look for shutter delay in the camera section, if you don't want to edit the registry directly yourself.
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Hi Paul,
Xperia Tweak 2.0 doesn't have the said camera section. May be a new version available, where can I get it? Thanks in advance for your advice.
oops, sorry... the option is in Advanced Config (I confuse the two applications, Advanced Config is much more comprehensive)
htc camera
sorry mate. that parameter does not exist on stock rom. unless it's already cooked or you install it yourself. and it's for htc cam app(which i think the iso speed option did not work. like i want 400, it capture in 201), not experia default one.
to uhuy*
you got it all wrong. your handheld/camera/phone lcd display will never show the true color/contrast/etc output of the recorded image. they are very limited in everything and tend to trick your (inexperience) mind about how good/bad things are. think, winmo only output 65k(16bit) color. doesn't matter if your screen got 200 thousand+ or 16m color display screen. it's capped that way. what you're seeing have been through interpolation, resampling, device enhancement, bla..bla..bla. the real thing is on your desktop monitor(assuming it's decent and you didn't mess it up). gamma too low perhaps?
uhuy* said:
does anybody have this problems with x1 camera..... the result of the picture is darker when you transfer it to a pc or upload it.... its only show the true color on the xperia image preview, when actually its too dark... any one ???
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is your monitor calibrated?
Expert Opinion?
I'm facing the same problem with Xperia X1 camera lagging, and blurry...
I'm using the default Xperia cam software.
Any expert care to provide a comprehensive solution to this problem?
Only fix : Sports mode + Infinite focus.
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Try HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/Captparam and set CapKeyDelayTime to 0.
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great fix!! worked for me!
Hello Everybody,
I'm developing an android application which uses the front camera.
As the Android SDK doesn't supoprt it natively, I need to fint the register name which tells the system to use the front camera. Unfortunately, I do not know how this parameter is called. Does anyone can help me?
btw, As I do not have an HTC Evo If anybody can help me by testing my app on its HTC evo, it will helps me a lot.
Many thanks in advance,
Best regards.
ill test if you tell me what the app does/is for
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btw, As I do not have an HTC Evo If anybody can help me by testing my app on its HTC evo, it will helps me a lot.
Many thanks in advance,
Best regards.
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All I could think of was some of the CraigsList replies I get that want my item shipped to Africa.
GL with your app, hope it's a fun one, not enough stuff uses the front camera yet.
Hi,
many thanks for your answer and your help.
My app is quite simple, it acts as a mirror by displaying the front camera in full screen (it crops left and right parts of the picture in order to maximise the picture surface.
My app is avaiblable in the android market under the name : MagicMirror-Lite
I get some feedbacks that my app does work on Evo devices.
Before adding other features (such as zoom and so on), I would like to get first quite a reliable app which works on most of terminals (which have a front camera of course).
Pao23 said:
GL with your app, hope it's a fun one, not enough stuff uses the front camera yet.
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I think the same, but as there is no explicit command in the android SDK which allows to use the front camera, I first need to get a reliable way to use front cams.
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Hi,
many thanks for your answer and your help.
My app is quite simple, it acts as a mirror by displaying the front camera in full screen (it crops left and right parts of the picture in order to maximise the picture surface.
My app is avaiblable in the android market undre the name : MagicMirror-Lite
I get some feedbacks that my app does work on Evo devices.
Before adding other features (such as zoom and so on), I would like to get first quite a reliable app which works on most of terminals (which have a front camera of course).
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I like that bro im in on that! Givein that app a go thanx!!
Sent from my 1.2 HP EVO
explicit command in the android SDK which allows to use the front camera
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The Cyanogen team has the front facing commands figured out.
Also, these guys do too http://www.popcrowd.com/
Maybe one would be willing to share or you could take a peak at their code.
Hi everybody,
Many thanks for your inputs.
If I made everything right, my application should now work on Sprint devices.
I uploaded a new version of the application. So, if you can test it on yours, it will be very helpful for me.
Cheers!
It uses the main camera on the EVO not the front one like you want.
Sorry.
Image is also turned 90 degrees...
For the rotation this is normal as the rear camera is rotated to 90° compared to the front camera (in order to use the rear camera in landscape mode and the front camera in portrait mode).
Ok well it still uses the wrong camera.
Looks promsing though.
Many thanks,
and before adding more sexy-features (like pinch zoom, or picture grabbing...) I want first to make sure my app is compatible with most mobile devices.
(If you have features ideas, do not hesitate )
Cool.
I'll test it again once you see about using the front camera.
I think I found what was wrong,
in the manifest file, I added:
<uses-library android:name="com.sprint.hardware.twinCamDevice" android:required="false"/>
I hope that this will make the things goes right for Sprint users without generating bugs for non-Sprint users.
how about make a video chat app that works all the time
chikenkilr said:
I think I found what was wrong,
in the manifest file, I added:
<uses-library android:name="com.sprint.hardware.twinCamDevice" android:required="false"/>
I hope that this will make the things goes right for Sprint users without generating bugs for non-Sprint users.
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It works with the front camera now but you still need to rotate the image 90degress. I don't see why anyone would want a mirror that the reflection is sideways!
You're completely right, if picture is rotated, it is completely useless. ^^
What is that for the samsung Epic, picture owns the right orientation.
Futhermore, picture should be distorded on your Evo device?
Last question, I must rotate picture in clockwise or in counter-clockwise?
It works on my evo
You need to rotate image 90 degrees clockwise...no matter how I turned the phone the imageit displayed was turned facing 9 o'clock...
Keep working at it!
Swyped from an HTC Evo on MetroPCS...
Yep, me too. The top of my head points to the left no matter how I hold the camera. It 'IS' working with the front camera though.
I'm just beginning to test the front facing camera on my Evo too with some code. I 'think' I read that the Sprint library has to be included in the manifest (to enable the front camera); however, they say the app will not load on phones that don't have this library. that seems pretty severe. Anyone tested that out ?
It would be nice to make apps that use the front camera if possible but still use the regular cam if the front one's not available.
Hi rufus,
Yes the library must be loaded, but, as I mentioned above, you must add the :"android:required="false". So if the library exists, it will be loaded and if not, it doesn't mattre. But you need to add in your source a test to check if the library exists or not. It is explained in the sprint sdk.
Ok I'll add a test on my program add add a rotation if detected phoe is an HTC evo.
Is the ratio of the picture ok or not?
The ratio of the picture is good, but I assume once it's rotated 90 degrees, it wont' be. It's still rotated 90 counterclockwise...the top of my head is at the left.
I learned how to use Touch Focus using the ROM MS2Ginger 1.0:
open the camera app,
press and hold the white square in the middle, drag it to wherever you want and drop.
Press and hold the capture icon, the square becomes green in the place you dropped it.
When you release the capture icon the picture is taken.
Remember to clean possible dirtiness or fingerprints from the lens.
I would like to know if there is a way to use this feature (or bring it) in other ROMs, and if it works in both red/green lens.
If you try please share your result.
Origin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17704852&page=74
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I would like to know if there is a way to use this feature (or bring it) in other ROMs, and if it works in both red/green lens.
If you try please share your result.
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IMO, the best & simple way for using touch to focus is Camera360.. This is the best camera application. Offers various cool effects & also touch to focus option.
Its pretty cool..
MazaMoto said:
IMO, the best & simple way for using touch to focus is Camera360.. This is the best camera application. Offers various cool effects & also touch to focus option.
Its pretty cool..
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It works, and has many configurations, thanks.
Does touch to focus works in your stock blurcamera as I described?
Many camera apps support touch to focus, like LGcamera and Camera360.
But I hope you know that the defy itself doesn't support touch to focus, so when using the app it may appear that it is working but it is still focussing on on the center:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17181792&postcount=10899
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17181792#post17181792
The next page the dev says that moto's driver doesn't support it and that there is nothing that can be done about that.
tejus.k.v said:
Many camera apps support touch to focus, like LGcamera and Camera360.
But I hope you know that the defy itself doesn't support touch to focus, so when using the app it may appear that it is working but it is still focussing on on the center:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17181792&postcount=10899
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17181792#post17181792
The next page the dev says that moto's driver doesn't support it and that there is nothing that can be done about that.
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Only now I found the setting that I had to change in lgCamera, Touch Focus is working there too, thanks.
I've attached some pictures made with my Defy using focus in different objects, can you confirm if you can do the same?
Maybe it's ROM/lens dependent.
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I've attached both reduced size and full size.
This manual touch focus is working for Defy. I'd tested it many times with difference objects far and near and they seemed to work very nice. I use the stock camera as it integrated with my blur galery very good and easily share or upload it to my social network apps.. This Defy even worked with the face detection and sometimes I even use it to take group of peoples without any issues.
can any of you actually tell me how to get touch focus working on any of the camera apps?stock,lg or 360 i can't seem to find the settings to change it to touch focus..
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Only now I found the setting that I had to change in lgCamera, Touch Focus is working there too, thanks.
I've attached some pictures made with my Defy using focus in different objects, can you confirm if you can do the same?
Maybe it's ROM/lens dependent.
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Try taking a photo like the one attached, with your fingers kept at the center and very close to the camera, while clicking on the farther object to the side (here my laptop). The camera will still focus on the nearer object, the fingers, at the center of the screen rather than at the object you clicked on . So touch to focus isn't working the way it is supposed to, it only just focusses at the object at the center of the screen whenever you touch anywhere on the screen.
I am on CM7 RC1.5, SOC Module. Touch to Focus probably won't work the way it is supposed to unless someone can fix the drivers moto has supplied for the phone. If it is working properly on your ROM maybe it can be ported
I don't remember if Eclair or Froyo has this touch focus function under stock rom. But I'm positively sure all gingerbread stock rom has it, however, it still dependance on Red lenses and Green lenses capability I supposed. Custom rom like CM7 or Miui may have altered alot which makes this function disappeared only the rom developer knows.
@scottie1973
for camera360:
go to definitions (wheel in top right), "Common Set",
make sure "Shoot by screen touch" is checked,
and that the "Shoot Mode" is defined as "Auto Focus".
for lgcamera:
you need to open definitions, and in the end of the list are a lot of checkbox to be selected.
In mine the words are not in english, but it's related to long click to Autofocus and capture.
For the stock is as described in the first post.
If after autofocus, the square is turning blue instead of green, means that the camera was not able to focus correctly.
@tejus.k.v
It works that way, even though I notice that there is a minimal area of a object for you to be able to focus at it. I don't know if this thing is perfect or not, but it works in the ROM I'm using (developed by walter79).
@farsight73
Others will join us
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@scottie1973
@tejus.k.v
It works that way, even though I notice that there is a minimal area of a object for you to be able to focus at it. I don't know if this thing is perfect or not, but it works in the ROM I'm using (developed by walter79).
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Wow nice
Lemme post a link to this thread in the CM7 thread and see
thanks for the info mrolp your a gent..