Hi, I have a problem, I have partitioning, the 1s, to 1.2gb, but when I install it, any rom based on cyanogen, system partition back to 800mb, so there is no space left for the GAPPS. But, really this partitioned, since, if I change the file type, and return to the original, it appears to 1.2gb, without having to touch anything.
Does anyone know how to fix it?
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Hello guys
I´m new here and also quite new to the custom rom scene.
You can skip my story if you want. The questions are below
I bought a Desire (bravo Amoled) around a year ago with a T-mobile Branding.
At this time the actual android version was 2.1 Eclair. Later tehre was 2.2 Froyo out. Becaus i didn´t wanted to wait for the T-mobile update I debranded my phone so get the open 2.2 Froyo update.
I was so happy Froyo had the App2SD function, because now i can intall more apps then before. But with all the updates for google maps, google mail, facebook apps...and user that have to stay on phone memory and the user apps moved to SD still storing data on the internal memory and the dalvik cache i soon again had space problems. Still i can´t install all apps i like.
So lived with this problem not aware of a solution till 2-3 weeks ago, where i finally rooted my phone and installed a custom Rom with A2SD+.
Now I have a rooted, S-OFF phone with Insertcoin V49 A2SD+ Version. And i thought there would be no more space problems, because the dalvik cache and all apps are now on the fake internal memory (1,5 GB ext3). But NO, there are still apps storing stuff on the real internal memory. At last i had problems to move Plants vs. Zombies (~70MB) from SD (Froyoinstall) to the ext, because the internal mem hadn´t enough space and it wouldn´t let me move.
Next step CM7 Hboot?
So here are some questions to understand how that works.
1. When i install a CM7 Hboot, the data partition (internal memory) will be bigger, yes? Means there will be almost double space for app DATAs?
2. The system partition, where the actual ROM is stored and booted is smaller?
2a. But that means some parts of the ROM need to be moved to the SD?
2b. Doesn´t this make the entire phone slower? Because reading from the SD card is slower then from nand? (8GB Class4)
2c. Is there higher power consumtion because of constantly SD access?
3. The cache partition is dramatically decreased to 5 MB. What is ist used for and will there any diadvantages because of the small size?
4. What happens with the Dalvik? Where is ist stored?
5. Does A2SD+ still work with the CM7 insertcoin version? (big ext 3 fake internal memory) or only Froyo A2SD with the bigger real internal memory?
6. How do people get 160-180 free RAM? I have around 100-110 MB.
So my goal is to get as much space available for user apps and getting a faster device (or at least dont get a slower one)
Hope someone read all my questions and can give me clarity..
Thanks in advance
Beegee
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indbeegee said:
So here are some questions to understand how that works.
1. When i install a CM7 Hboot, the data partition (internal memory) will be bigger, yes? Means there will be almost double space for app DATAs?
2. The system partition, where the actual ROM is stored and booted is smaller?
2a. But that means some parts of the ROM need to be moved to the SD?
2b. Doesn´t this make the entire phone slower? Because reading from the SD card is slower then from nand? (8GB Class4)
2c. Is there higher power consumtion because of constantly SD access?
3. The cache partition is dramatically decreased to 5 MB. What is ist used for and will there any diadvantages because of the small size?
4. What happens with the Dalvik? Where is ist stored?
5. Does A2SD+ still work with the CM7 insertcoin version? (big ext 3 fake internal memory) or only Froyo A2SD with the bigger real internal memory?
6. How do people get 160-180 free RAM? I have around 100-110 MB.
Beegee
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Hi beegee,
I'm new to this myself, so not an expert, but I just flashed the CM7r2 hboot myself and will help where I can. Note, I am using CyanogenMod7, not InsertCoin.
1. Yes, the system and cache partitions used by the phone ROM are decreased substantially, system decreases from 250MB to 145MB and cache from 40MB to 5MB. This extra space is then added to the internal data partition for your apps and games. I only have a few apps installed at the moment and my data partition is 287MB total, 21MB used, 266MB free space.
2. Yes, see above.
2a. No, the ROM only requires 145MB, none of it is stored on the sdcard.
3. I'm sure the cache must be a fixed size. Mine (with CyanogenMod7) has remained at 4MB since install so a 5MB partition is large enough.
4. I store dalvik-cache on the ext3 partition of my sdcard as you are doing now. If you moved it back to the phone memory it would be stored in the data partition.
5. I use a version of A2SD with the CM7 hboot and it works fine.
6. I've not used insertcoin but as I said in the first answer I have 287MB data partition in my phone now. This is due to using the CM7 hboot.
Hope this helps,
Steve
The larger cache size from the stock Hboot is meant for OTA updates so we have no use for that. It's also used to flash radio images from recovery. If your cache is too small, like it is in the CM7 and Oxygen Hboots, you will need to flash the radio via fastboot but you don't really need to worry about flashing radio's anyways..can look into that later if you want.
Thanks for the answers by now.
What i found out:
The Insertcoin is a Sense enabled rom. The zip of the Rom is about 288 Meg big. Its not an AOSP like Cyanogen, which is so sleek to fit completely in the smaller system partition. I extracted both Insertcoin A2SD and CM7 zips and found that they have a sdext folder. On the cm7 version it is 365 Meg and on the a2sd+ 80 Meg big. So both versions install files on the external partition.
Only open question now is if the CM7 version supports A2SD+
Edit: Obviously the CM7 version has no A2SD+
Also the the new bigger system partition only has ~ 80 Meg free after first boot ?!
Hello. I haven't installed, yet a custom ROM (I'm still on Rooted Stock), but documented a little to understand even better what each ROM does.
1. I saw that you wanted a very fast ROM, the only ones that are really fast are the AOSP ROM's since they are in the most minimalistic form possible --> ~150MB
2. You should also take in consideration that a small cache partition may slow down some games. This was tested and problems appeared at some games, which use some improved graphics. The games also store there some of the "graphics files"? and since the partition is too small, it has to constanly read/write/delete.
3. CM7 version supports A2SD+: you should read the whole thread from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917570. It explains all. As I have read some of it two things popped-up:
-CyanogenMod do not officially support a2sd, i'm working on it because desire (not only) desperatly need it (cutted down Firerat script)
-Other a2sd can be used, this is just the easiest way: use recovery to partition your SD then install cm7_legacy_a2sd_rX-signed.zip
Hope this helps you.
UsManyDead said:
Hello. I haven't installed, yet a custom ROM (I'm still on Rooted Stock), but documented a little to understand even better what each ROM does.
1. I saw that you wanted a very fast ROM, the only ones that are really fast are the AOSP ROM's since they are in the most minimalistic form possible --> ~150MB
2. You should also take in consideration that a small cache partition may slow down some games. This was tested and problems appeared at some games, which use some improved graphics. The games also store there some of the "graphics files"? and since the partition is too small, it has to constanly read/write/delete.
3. CM7 version supports A2SD+: you should read the whole thread from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917570. It explains all. As I have read some of it two things popped-up:
-CyanogenMod do not officially support a2sd, i'm working on it because desire (not only) desperatly need it (cutted down Firerat script)
-Other a2sd can be used, this is just the easiest way: use recovery to partition your SD then install cm7_legacy_a2sd_rX-signed.zip
Hope this helps you.
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Hello
Thanks for the infos. I know the ASOP roms are faster, but i don´t want to miss the Sense UI.
To 3. I think there was a misunderstanding. When is say CM7 i dont mean the rom "CyanogenMod7" but the CM7 Hboot Version of Insertcoin rom.
I just tried to postinstall a2sd via http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip
But after installation in recovery, the phone wont boot Insertcoin. Stuck at Alpharev Bootstreen now.
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The larger cache size from the stock Hboot is meant for OTA updates so we have no use for that. It's also used to flash radio images from recovery. If your cache is too small, like it is in the CM7 and Oxygen Hboots, you will need to flash the radio via fastboot but you don't really need to worry about flashing radio's anyways..can look into that later if you want.
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Presumably the HBOOT and Radio partitions are the same size whichever HBOOT you use, and Radio immediately follows HBOOT. Otherwise you would have to flash the Radio if you changed he partition map by (eg) going from Stock to CM7.
indbeegee said:
I just tried to postinstall a2sd via http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2s...a04-signed.zip
But after installation in recovery, the phone wont boot Insertcoin. Stuck at Alpharev Bootstreen now.
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If you've done a nandroid back-up before trying to flash the A2SD+ scripts (which is advised!!!) you should go back to recovery and restore it. You should go back to your InsertCoin again and try the steps once again. Maybe you did something wrong or got a wrong file.
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If you've done a nandroid back-up before trying to flash the A2SD+ scripts (which is advised!!!) you should go back to recovery and restore it. You should go back to your InsertCoin again and try the steps once again. Maybe you did something wrong or got a wrong file.
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No, i didn´t made a nandroid backup, because ist was a new Insertcoin CM7 install. No personal data to lose.
I just wiped and made a new install. Now i have 199 Meg internal memory free.
Edit: After installing DT A2SD in recovery again, the phone is again stuck at Alpharev splash What now?
Edit2: After installing the Rom over without wipe, Insertcoin boots normaly. But i encountered, force reboots when installing any app.
So i made a new fresh isntall.
Conclusion: Insertcoin uses my Ext4 for its Data. But will not use it as fake internal memory. My Ext4 is ~1,5 GB big. Insertcoin uses 600 MB from it and the leftover 900 MB are wastetd, because no one uses it.
Edit 3: Insertcoin doesnt like Ext4. Everytime i tried to install Astro File Manager fom Market the phone rebootet. No problem with Ext3
Hello,
I have a problem when installing the MIUI V4 Marange ROM 2.6.8
The installer stuck on "Setting permissions" (in aroma).
For installing it, i make this different steps :
1/ Wipe all
2/ Fix permissions
3/ install: choose a2sd, ext4, no swap, shaky kernel
My phone is a HTC Desire with 4EXT Recovery Touch.
I have a 16GB SD Card with a 1024Mo Ext4 partition.
Thank you for your help
Best regards
Please, paste here the log of your installation.
You need to use the button in bottom left of the screen, the file will be saved in the same directory of the rom.
It can help discover what's your problem.
The problem is that i can't use this button because when the installation have a problem, i can't click anywhere.
In fact, when i install this rom, the installation goes until "Setting permissions". After a few minutes, the installer closes and shows an error with status 0.
What HBoot are you running? Is it Data++?
Yes! Why?
I know this may not sound like a solution to you, but try installing with Stock hboot. Here's why:
I had the exact same thing as you do now, and in every way I tried, I couldn't get MIUI to install on Data++ and on Sence hboot it installed, but gave me alot of errors.
I tried alot of things, such as installing on Stock hboot, taking backup, switching to Data++, perform a factory reset and let MIUI re-install itself... google application services started failing left, right and center.
I ended up ordering a Class 6 Ultra 32GB Micro SD Card, so I can use Lennox's LX-D2X script (cause my current card is too slow and caused alot of lag). Until the card arrived, I'm trying to live with just 140MB of internal memory (with Dalvik and App Data on sd-ext). Here's my setup:
PC-A2SD
EXT-3
Internal Swap File
Shaky Kernel
smartassV2 governor
Hope this helps.
Hi Guys,
I am a newbie to rooting stuff so please excuse me if I did anything by error and please share an solution.
I have an rooted desire with S-off and CM 5.0.2.0 version long back.
I wanted to upgrade to the latest CM 7.x
So i downloaded cm 7.x .zip from google and flashed in as per the instructions(install zip from recovery)
After its installed , i took a restart of the phone, but the phone wont boot, it just stays in the joker face screen.
Have waited for more than 30 mins several times but no boot.
Removed the battery, went back to recovery and found its still CM5.x
Freaked out , I formatted my 16GB SD card with 13GB Fat and 2 GB for sd-ext and rest for linux swap for a new ROM installation which is Runnymede AIO 6.x
Installation was fine but Iam having issues with memory now which never happened before as I used several ROMs earlier.
As soon as I install few apps, low storage warning pops up.
Please tell me what needs to be done to rollback all my changes?
Hboot is 0.93.0001
Radio 32.56.00.32u_5.17.05.23
Kernel version is 2.6.35.10
First of all: Don't use swap. It will kill your sd-card quite fast and is not very useful (read here why).
Secondly: Did you change your partition table? Since the Desire provides very little internal space a alternative partition table is important.
Third: Did you make a Nandroid Backup?
m3adow said:
First of all: Don't use swap. It will kill your sd-card quite fast and is not very useful (read here why).
Secondly: Did you change your partition table? Since the Desire provides very little internal space a alternative partition table is important.
Third: Did you make a Nandroid Backup?
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Ok, I have removed the swap space now.
An alternate partion table?
I have taken a full backup(thru ROM manaher) before I did i upgrade atempt with CM7. Hence I was able to restore it back and work now, however, Im unable to flash any new roms as the space issue is again popping up.
reds971 said:
Ok, I have removed the swap space now.
An alternate partion table?
I have taken a full backup(thru ROM manaher) before I did i upgrade atempt with CM7. Hence I was able to restore it back and work now, however, Im unable to flash any new roms as the space issue is again popping up.
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He asked you if you have flashed custom hboot (alternate partition table).
To fix problem flash 4 ext recovery over fastboot (if you're s-off) and there you have an option to format all partitions except sd-card. Also reformat your sd-card using 4ext and use not more then 1,5GB for sd-ext.
And one more thing, don't use ROM manager it has a lot of bugs and can create a lot of problems, all the stuff you wanna do with it you can do straight from recovery.
Hi, I have a HTC Desire GSM and have tried both AOKP 2.0 and MIUI 2.6. I´ve done both installs using clean installs, total wipe and so on..
The Roms are both looking, feeling and working really great and really fast...i use A2SD to put all possible apps on the sd-card...
In the MIUI rom what happend was that suddenly some processes stopped running.. so I had to reboot my phone.. a nice reboot but after that every config that I made.. all contacs, all sms etc was gone. The only thing left was the apps installed on sd-card.
With AOKP what happend was that I was talking on the phone and when I wanted to hang up the screen was total black.. not responsive to any command. Not even powerbutton, volume - and centrebutton to reboot. I had to remove the battery.. after that same thing happend with contacts, sms and so on....
Any suggestions...
The only thing that I know I dont have done is to resize my internal partitions.. I think I´ve read that system partition must be 200 mb.. i´ve also formatted my sd-card.. "i think" i have it in ext3 or ext4..
/Eskimos20
Moved to Desire Q&A section.
I have been using MIUI on Desire for few months and it was very stable ROM for me. I don't think you have to resize any internal partitions, it's unnecessary. If u still want MIUI, I prefer to install MIUI D2EXT (official download). Make correct partitions on your SD and enjoy great rom.
Thanks for the advice... but I have had MIUI 2.3.7 for months.. and yes it is very stable.. just some minor things.. but since I like both AOKP and MIUI and Jelly Bean I tried that one. So far it is very stable and pretty fast .. but my bug seems not have happend to other users.. that is why I was asking for some advice.
I´ve formatted my sd-ext now with ext4 instead of ext3.. maybe it has some effect.. who knows
/Eskimos20
I was using 2 ext4 partitions with MIUI ROM, because I have read at the MIUI Polish Support, that second ext4 partition may improve rom working. One was for data/app and second for MIUI's system files or something like that. Maybe try to make second ext4 partition
pablo7890 said:
I was using 2 ext4 partitions with MIUI ROM, because I have read at the MIUI Polish Support, that second ext4 partition may improve rom working. One was for data/app and second for MIUI's system files or something like that. Maybe try to make second ext4 partition
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Hi.. yes I did a full wipe of my sd to ext4 2 days ago.. I did it with a2sd format in the terminal.... I´ve not had any problems since.. I hope that was the solution
The rom works perfect now except for the problems that other users already have posted....
1. I have to choose network on every reboot.
2. Camera/Camcorder dont work 100%
3. Flash and watching recorded movies dont work perfect.
4. Minor bugs with weather app not showing celcius at all times
/Eskimos20
Hello folks
My issue is this:
GSM Desire
Class 10 SD
4ext Recovery (used to partition sd)
I'm trying to install various JB roms. The a2sd never works. When I download the gui it says it can't start because either no scripts, no partition, etc.
I've tried a lot of Roms including ones where a2sd is meant to be built in. I've also installed from Terminal and it seems to optimise all the apps on reboot but internal memory is still the standard and apps still in Internal (it's meant to go up to my ext4 partition right? it's about 1.5G)
I've worked my way through these (can't post the link but its the Alchemister custom rom blogspot for the Desire.)
each one the same problem.
Checkext and diskspace both see the partition. Strangely, L2SD seems to crash each of the Roms if I install it.
So far the only Rom to work correctly is a Supernova Gingerbread one. It gave me the 1.5G. So, the partition appears to be good.
Both are primary too.
I would like a JB one as the supernova rom is very laggy.
Running a Miui at the moment and also really liked the Touchwiz one on the list as well.
I only started doing this two days ago as my contract was up so I'm very new to this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Let's make sure your partition works. Download the rom in my sig. It's a very stable rom, that has a script integrated that moves data/app and dalvik cache to sd-ext. Flash it, then install a few apps. If the internal storage gets filled up quickly, then it probably is a partition fault, and you'll have to repartition.
If it does work, then you did something wrong when you installed the other roms.
Are you sure you did a full wipe before installing all those roms?
a2sd problem solved
Thankyou Andoo,
I've got it working now. It was two things that were confusing me. They were mentioned in the partitioning guide that you attached.
1. I was not aware that you were not meant to see the full size of your Ext4 partition as internal storage. For anyone else with this problem, you can see how your Ext partition is being used if you download Freespace app from the market. I had assumed that you could see the ext as internal space as that is what a few of the earlier Roms i looked at said that that would happen. (it does for the Supernova Rom)
2. When I was downloading and installing apps such as FB or Maps, they were still taking a big chunk out of my internal memory so I assumed that it wasn't working. However, when I chose to put the data as well as cache to the Ext, it hardly took anything out of my internal storage at all. I have a class 10 card and so far everything seems fairly brisk and responsive. I Chose Y/Y/Y when installing a2sd from Terminal instead of the recommended Y/N/Y.
If things start to get slow, I might try the Mount2SD script in the attachment -I think this allows you to chose individual large apps to go to Ext instead of all of them.
Thanks again for your help. I now have a useful and quick phone again.
PS the MildWild 9.5 Rom you suggested - I hadinstalled this before and had real problems with the WiFi disconnecting every couple of seconds and the same thing happened again when I installed from your link. I'm using the Touchwiz at the moment and all seems well.
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Let's make sure your partition works. Download the rom in my sig. It's a very stable rom, that has a script integrated that moves data/app and dalvik cache to sd-ext. Flash it, then install a few apps. If the internal storage gets filled up quickly, then it probably is a partition fault, and you'll have to repartition.
If it does work, then you did something wrong when you installed the other roms.
Are you sure you did a full wipe before installing all those roms?
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