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Thinking of trading my s4 in for something else...

Had my s4 for about two weeks and I've only encountered problems with it. It scratches easily, the screen smearing in the settings, the screen flickering when opening and closing the keyboard on low brightness, the stuttering when opening and closing apps and swiping left to right on the home screen, the pixels looking terrible when watching a movie scene in low lighting. Im disappointed in Samsung. A quad core device shouldnt have all of these problems. Especially if we're shelling out 630 dollars for these phones.
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I traded my HTC One on craigslist for this Galaxy S4 and I didnt have any of those problems.
I had one dead pixel, called tmobile and they sent me a brand new S4 to my house to swap out becaue of the dead pixel.
Not sure why your having so many problems.

dannyyyyy said:
Had my s4 for about two weeks and I've only encountered problems with it. It scratches easily, the screen smearing in the settings, the screen flickering when opening and closing the keyboard on low brightness, the stuttering when opening and closing apps and swiping left to right on the home screen, the pixels looking terrible when watching a movie scene in low lighting. Im disappointed in Samsung. A quad core device shouldnt have all of these problems. Especially if we're shelling out 630 dollars for these phones.
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i could agree with you on the smearing but other than that i havent faced any of the other issues you mention, and regarding scratches are you talking about the screen or the back cover?

jax5ter said:
i could agree with you on the smearing but other than that i havent faced any of the other issues you mention, and regarding scratches are you talking about the screen or the back cover?
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Im talking about the bezzle around the phone and around the home button. Mine came scratched out the box.

dannyyyyy said:
Im talking about the bezzle around the phone and around the home button. Mine came scratched out the box.
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i am not sure if you have noticed this but the bezzle more like around the side of the phone where the aluminum body is has a plastic film covering all around (you have to look closely) , maybe the film is scratched try peeling that off and see if you notice the scratches anymore.

jax5ter said:
i am not sure if you have noticed this but the bezzle more like around the side of the phone where the aluminum body is has a plastic film covering all around (you have to look closely) , maybe the film is scratched try peeling that off and see if you notice the scratches anymore.
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Lol yeah I know i took it off a while ago

dannyyyyy said:
Im talking about the bezzle around the phone and around the home button. Mine came scratched out the box.
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I have gone caseless about 50% of the time since day one launch and my phone is still flawless. Not a single blemish anywhere. The bezel dents far less easily than my S2 that is for sure.
I get the lag from swiping left to right when touch wiz first loads, it is smooth after that. Try another launcher if you don't like that as that is touch wiz only, not the hardware. Or wait for a custom kernel.
Or get the HTC One which is nearly the same hardware aside from the screen. Or sell and try the ASOP S4?
Your post gives off an air of trying to bring others down with you. Not sure how successful you will be with that here. There are alot of ppl who like there phones on this forum

Futant said:
I have gone caseless about 50% of the time since day one launch and my phone is still flawless. Not a single blemish anywhere. The bezel dents far less easily than my S2 that is for sure.
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Amen to that! I traded my s2 for the s4 and the worst issues I get are lint and a crash here or there from playing Ravensword 2 while keeping other apps open (which is my own fault). Are you able to have your phone replaced? Cause it sounds like they sold you a returned phone by mistake or intentionally
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To protect any scratches I use 2 cases. One flip cover to protect screen and another gel case outside it to protect edges. And its not bulky at all.
I am going to order s view case with extra holding (no need to change back cover ) to replace this combination.
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it's there a slim non bulky kickstand case yet? I know to look on Amazon or eBay but do anyone have personal recommendations?
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I think its your phone dude, I don't have any of those issues minus the slightest amount of lag when wiz kicks in. Return it, tell them it stopped turning on, no Samsung boot screen, nothing, that way they don't run you through a million troubleshooting steps.
Everyone here loves their phone, I think you need to just be patient and wait for devs to make some ROM tweaks and it'll blow the HTC One out of the water...

Futant said:
I have gone caseless about 50% of the time since day one launch and my phone is still flawless. Not a single blemish anywhere. The bezel dents far less easily than my S2 that is for sure.
I get the lag from swiping left to right when touch wiz first loads, it is smooth after that. Try another launcher if you don't like that as that is touch wiz only, not the hardware. Or wait for a custom kernel.
Or get the HTC One which is nearly the same hardware aside from the screen. Or sell and try the ASOP S4?
Your post gives off an air of trying to bring others down with you. Not sure how successful you will be with that here. There are alot of ppl who like there phones on this forum
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Not trying to bring any one down with me. I'm expressing my experience with the s4. I love it but there are a lot of issues.

92drls said:
I think its your phone dude, I don't have any of those issues minus the slightest amount of lag when wiz kicks in. Return it, tell them it stopped turning on, no Samsung boot screen, nothing, that way they don't run you through a million troubleshooting steps.
Everyone here loves their phone, I think you need to just be patient and wait for devs to make some ROM tweaks and it'll blow the HTC One out of the water...
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Thanks, I actually posted this so someone could help change my mind about sending it back.

dannyyyyy said:
Thanks, I actually posted this so someone could help change my mind about sending it back.
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Well I hope we change your mind man, the more people with these phones is more incentive for the devs to work on them!!

I feel like people here are disillusioned by their own experience with the device. If you're honestly saying you don't notice a screen smear at the lowest brightness or any kind of banding whatsoever in greys at the lowest brightness, you're obviously not using an S4, or you have some rare perfect unit that Samsung had blessed by their unicorn god.
I've personally played with three S4's including my own which I've obviously spent an extensive number of time with. The AMOLED screen at low brightness definitely has a number of artifacts which someone who is sensitive too could find annoying or troublesome. I personally am used to it, because the Galaxy Nexus had the same issues at low brightness, even worse in some cases. I find it really hard to believe that all three units I used were broken in some regard and I find it even tougher to believe because AMOLED has had this problem for a while now.
As for the Touchwiz lag, that will most likely be corrected via software. As flashing Faux's kernel and using interactive governor pretty much removes the lag completely. It's obviously some type of governor scaling issue.
The other issue the S4 has is the audio crackling with low impedance IEM's. Currently there is no workaround, aside from using different headphones as Samsung calls my UE900's "not compatible" with their device. The reason why I played with three different S4's is because of this problem, which was present in all three S4's to a varying degree of annoyance.
Don't get me wrong -- the S4 is a great device, I'm keeping mine for the time being, but to pretend like it's some flawless experience is downright incorrect. It has a number of design issues that need to be remedied in order for me to go ahead and purchase another Samsung S(Anything) in the future.

Mass hysteria. Can't wait for this device. Switching to T-Mobile tomorrow =]
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Bless the unicorns, I don't have these issues. Any of them aside from touchwiz lagging after a reboot. I've turned my brightness all the way down and used the stick keyboard, Swiftkey and Swype with zero flickering; I've watched videos with no issues and examined several grey panels desperately trying to find faults and coming up blank.

i4mt3hwin said:
I feel like people here are disillusioned by their own experience with the device. If you're honestly saying you don't notice a screen smear at the lowest brightness or any kind of banding whatsoever in greys at the lowest brightness, you're obviously not using an S4, or you have some rare perfect unit that Samsung had blessed by their unicorn god.
I've personally played with three S4's including my own which I've obviously spent an extensive number of time with. The AMOLED screen at low brightness definitely has a number of artifacts which someone who is sensitive too could find annoying or troublesome. I personally am used to it, because the Galaxy Nexus had the same issues at low brightness, even worse in some cases. I find it really hard to believe that all three units I used were broken in some regard and I find it even tougher to believe because AMOLED has had this problem for a while now.
As for the Touchwiz lag, that will most likely be corrected via software. As flashing Faux's kernel and using interactive governor pretty much removes the lag completely. It's obviously some type of governor scaling issue.
The other issue the S4 has is the audio crackling with low impedance IEM's. Currently there is no workaround, aside from using different headphones as Samsung calls my UE900's "not compatible" with their device. The reason why I played with three different S4's is because of this problem, which was present in all three S4's to a varying degree of annoyance.
Don't get me wrong -- the S4 is a great device, I'm keeping mine for the time being, but to pretend like it's some flawless experience is downright incorrect. It has a number of design issues that need to be remedied in order for me to go ahead and purchase another Samsung S(Anything) in the future.
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Like I said before, warranty your device. Smearing and audio crackling are a known issue but only on certain batches mailed out. Surely, future ROMS will have audio patches to fix that but the screen is internal, obviously. We haven't figured out what caused it or who all has the issue but its a known thing. I wont speak on behalf of T-Mobile but being an employee I recommend just to tell them it randomly boots or doesn't power on at all; so you don't have to go through a million troubleshooting steps.
Just don't do the OTA when you get it lol

i4mt3hwin said:
I feel like people here are disillusioned by their own experience with the device. If you're honestly saying you don't notice a screen smear at the lowest brightness or any kind of banding whatsoever in greys at the lowest brightness, you're obviously not using an S4, or you have some rare perfect unit that Samsung had blessed by their unicorn god.
I've personally played with three S4's including my own which I've obviously spent an extensive number of time with. The AMOLED screen at low brightness definitely has a number of artifacts which someone who is sensitive too could find annoying or troublesome. I personally am used to it, because the Galaxy Nexus had the same issues at low brightness, even worse in some cases. I find it really hard to believe that all three units I used were broken in some regard and I find it even tougher to believe because AMOLED has had this problem for a while now.
As for the Touchwiz lag, that will most likely be corrected via software. As flashing Faux's kernel and using interactive governor pretty much removes the lag completely. It's obviously some type of governor scaling issue.
The other issue the S4 has is the audio crackling with low impedance IEM's. Currently there is no workaround, aside from using different headphones as Samsung calls my UE900's "not compatible" with their device. The reason why I played with three different S4's is because of this problem, which was present in all three S4's to a varying degree of annoyance.
Don't get me wrong -- the S4 is a great device, I'm keeping mine for the time being, but to pretend like it's some flawless experience is downright incorrect. It has a number of design issues that need to be remedied in order for me to go ahead and purchase another Samsung S(Anything) in the future.
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THANK YOU. +10000 I definitely LOVE my s4, but these problems are VERY annoying. My OCD is making me want to return it. Apple has definitely won the war of UI smoothness.

dannyyyyy said:
THANK YOU. +10000 I definitely LOVE my s4, but these problems are VERY annoying. My OCD is making me want to return it. Apple has definitely won the war of UI smoothness.
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Well Apple has a couple of distinct advantages in that area. For starters they only have to worry about their hardware. So they can optimize all their software, SDK's, drivers, etc all for their one device. They also prioritize the graphics above everything else on the phone. Nothing short of a kernel panic is going to make the graphics hiccup/jitter in iOS. These two examples apply to other areas as well, like their audio processing latency being so low. Despite what people here say, the iPhone is definitely a sweet device.
That being said, if you haven't already you should try the HTC One. The LCD screen doesn't suffer from the same problems the AMOLED does. The interface is also much smoother. Plus you get better front facing speakers. You obviously trade off SD Card (which was one of the reasons I didn't get the One), replaceable battery, the S-Features if you like them, etc. But overall I think the One is a better experience if little things bother you.
You can try trading in your S4, but you're probably just going to end up like me, trading it and receiving a device with the same problems back.

Uneven vertical scrolling?!?

Hello all. I just got my note 10.1 2014. I haven't been able to play a lot with it but I just noticed a serious flaw.
If I use it vertically and go let's say to a long page and scroll up or down , then the right part of the screen responds faster and the page scrolls unevenly. If I move my hand slow up and down the page scrolls like a wave.
This does not happen horizontally where everything remains straight while scrolling.
It happens on everything. Long contact list , developers option menu, gmail widget etc.
Can someone please check that? Is my note faulty or this is common?
Thanks
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Tested in Play Store, Gmail, Reddit Sync, and Tapatalk. No such issue. Little less smooth vertically, but no left/right imbalance.

Mine is very heavily imbalanced. Can this be hardware issue?
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Couldn't reproduce it, neither on the standard internet browser nor on Chrome. Maybe there is a lot going on in the background. Can you Restart the Note 10.1 and see if the problem goes away?

yes, it's there. it's also visible on the galaxy note 8. if you scroll up and down you'll see a distorted text line. it's only when scrolling, not when reading so it's not really much of an issue.

I did a factory reset. Update to latest software. Etc. It's still there. And I'm not talking about distorted text. The right party of the screen scrolls faster than the left part so the screen looks like it's bending. When I stop the scrolling its fine.
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that's what i'm talking about. a slight wobbly effect. it's just more noticable with straight objects like type. a guy posted a video on the gn 8 forums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4-tKflikYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. It's more noticeable if I have the Samsung logo on the right hand. So strange but seems that I have to live with it.
Thanks!
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Lympe said:
Hello all. I just got my note 10.1 2014. I haven't been able to play a lot with it but I just noticed a serious flaw.
If I use it vertically and go let's say to a long page and scroll up or down , then the right part of the screen responds faster and the page scrolls unevenly. If I move my hand slow up and down the page scrolls like a wave.
This does not happen horizontally where everything remains straight while scrolling.
It happens on everything. Long contact list , developers option menu, gmail widget etc.
Can someone please check that? Is my note faulty or this is common?
Thanks
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Ahhhh yes...This is a hard one to explain but I know exactly what you are talking about. I first noticed this occurrence when I briefly had the Nexus 10. It was really bad on that tablet. So bad it was to the point where I could not hold it in portrait any more. It was so annoying. I ultimately returned it for light bleed but blamed the screen "wave" while scrolling to an under powered GPU.
So after I returned the N10 I went back to my HP Touchpad with ICS to await the next great 10 inch tablet to come out (took a year). Anyways, I started to notice it on there as well!! But it was much harder to see. I did a little researching on the interwebs and its a hard thing to describe and search for.
I tested it on many tablets in store to see if I could replicate it and the only ones that had it bad were the high def ones with high PPI counts. 1920 x 1200 pixels and up mainly.
I did more research and from what I read it is the fact that there are so many pixels that when you scroll they all are not changing exactly accross at the same time. So as the screen refreshes there is a slight delay from the first row to the last row when scrolling.
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Warning this is one of those "once you see it you cant unsee it ever again" things.....have your note 2014 in portrait with the buttons on the left, find a website with a lot of text that you can scroll (reddit.com), now scroll up and down in a fluid motion going about a full page length each way. The pixels on the left side of the screen are slightly behind the ones on the right. I guarantee it happens on yours too....
There is no fix for this. It just comes with the territory when you start getting into big ultra high def screens. I'm sure in the future they will probably hash this out but right now this is what we get. But I will say the screen on the Galaxy Note 2014 is far less "wavy" than the Nexus 10. If you don't believe me go to a store with an N10 put it in portrait and scroll with that. It's pretty bad.
All in all the "scroll wave" on the Note 2014 is not bad at all in my opinion. I just wanted to let you know that you are not the only one and it happens all across the board in varying degrees. I'm happy with mine just how it is and use it in portrait all the time
Side note: It's much harder to see on cell phones if at all. Not sure why but it's probably easier to see when you have a 10 inch.
Side note 2: When you hold it in landscape the effect is much harder to see because you are not scrolling left to right much it's up and down. But if you look closely you can see a slight "accordion" effect. Its the same principle but just harder to see. Again it's really not that bad on the Note 2014.

On a site note, I've seen that wobbly scrolling get introduced with a recent OTA on Note 8.0 so it's a software/driver issue.

mi7chy said:
On a site note, I've seen that wobbly scrolling get introduced with a recent OTA on Note 8.0 so it's a software/driver issue.
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Interesting....I can replicate it on many devices across many different hardware manufacturers though. It's like one of the first things I check when I play around with tablets. The constant is that it seems to be the high res ones and only in certain holding positions like portrait or landscape. But most of them do it from what I recall. I do want to try it on an ipad though...I tend to steer clear of those
Also with that thinking then my HP Touchpad, Nexus 10 and Note 2014 all have software/driver issues. Let alone all the ones in the store you can replicate it with like the note 8, ASUS tranformer infinity, etc. So then they all have bad software/drivers? I just don't think it's likely. Some screens are better than others with this but there seems to be a common theme here...high PPI count on large screens.

Bumping an old post, but has anybody seen any improvement with this in the last 10 months?

talz13 said:
Bumping an old post, but has anybody seen any improvement with this in the last 10 months?
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Of course not since we haven't received any update anyway. Just use it horizontally and you won't notice it
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The things nobody tells you about this great phone.

Hi V30 fans.
I got my V30+ 2 weeks ago and love this phone.
However there were a few things nobody ever mentions in their review like the great vibration motor, the sharp edges at the bottom or the plastic feel of the screen.
That's why I made my own consumer review of the V30. You can watch it here:
https://youtu.be/1Eejb64Cwy8
Did you notice similar flaws with your V30 and how much did they bother you? Cheers

I put a case on my phone, so no sharp edges on mine or my wife's.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74959563&postcount=200

None of it bothers me. Other stuff bothers me, not that though.

coldbeverage said:
None of it bothers me. Other stuff bothers me, not that though.
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the weak speaker?

ChazzMatt said:
I put a case on my phone, so no sharp edges on mine or my wife's.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
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it doesn't really bother me it's just someting i noticed when I first touched the device but maybe other V30 phones don't have sharp edges. I use a popsocket.
Just a different question: When I set DND to only priority some app notifications like tinder show up even though I did't activate it. Any thoughts?

What bothers me the most is front facing camera, it's hideous, sooooo crappy, my 3 year old htc m9 had a better camera. Other than that I'm super happy with everything this phone has to offer
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Axkings said:
the weak speaker?
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Lol. No! What weak speaker??
The software experience. I'm coming from a 6p. I also don't love the battery and miss an LED notifier.
Otherwise, phone is great.

melihcarter said:
What bothers me the most is front facing camera, it's hideous, sooooo crappy, my 3 year old htc m9 had a better camera. Other than that I'm super happy with everything this phone has to offer
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true however I think in good lighting the FFC is quite decent

coldbeverage said:
Lol. No! What weak speaker??
The software experience. I'm coming from a 6p. I also don't love the battery and miss an LED notifier.
Otherwise, phone is great.
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Yeah Stock android is always the fastest but honestly I don't understand what's bad about the software. I had the S8 and think Samsung UX is way worse.

Axkings said:
That's why I made my own consumer review of the V30. You can watch it here:
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A 10+ minute video? Where's the summary? I'm not investing that time, but suspect I could read a transcript of it in 90 seconds.

Wotta said:
A 10+ minute video? Where's the summary? I'm not investing that time, but suspect I could read a transcript of it in 90 seconds.
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I guess you have to watch the video to find out haha

Axkings said:
Yeah Stock android is always the fastest but honestly I don't understand what's bad about the software. I had the S8 and think Samsung UX is way worse.
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It's the constant running of unnecessary things. that's what's annoying.

no LED?
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I also don't love the battery and miss an LED notifier.
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Really no LED? This is going backwards in time, back to my N6 that had to be rooted to get the notification LED working. This actually might be a deal breaker, leaving me with my HTC 10 until something else with a decent DAC comes onto the market.

yep_nexus said:
Really no LED? This is going backwards in time, back to my N6 that had to be rooted to get the notification LED working. This actually might be a deal breaker, leaving me with my HTC 10 until something else with a decent DAC comes onto the market.
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I mean I miss it, but the good outweighs the bad on this phone. It's been less of a huge deal then I thought it would be.

darned missing LED
coldbeverage said:
I mean I miss it, but the good outweighs the bad on this phone. It's been less of a huge deal then I thought it would be.
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Do you use peek? I generally find it distracting, whereas the LED tells me what I was being notified about by color.
Well at least I have a good reason to hold off on upgrading for a few more months now. In any case I'm grateful you mentioned it!

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Do you use peek? I generally find it distracting, whereas the LED tells me what I was being notified about by color.
Well at least I have a good reason to hold off on upgrading for a few more months now. In any case I'm grateful you mentioned it!
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What's peek?
I use the always on display for this phone. Works well.
I'm actually kinda liking not looking at the led notifier all for the time.

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I use the always on display for this phone. Works well.
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That's peek - peeks your notifications. At least on other/older phones, the screen turns on when you get a notification and again when it senses motion. I understand the V30's display just stays on all the time.
I guess I just get distracted easily...

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That's peek - peeks your notifications. At least on other/older phones, the screen turns on when you get a notification and again when it senses motion. I understand the V30's display just stays on all the time.
I guess I just get distracted easily...
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Oh. I had that on my 6P. I like the v30's version better.
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That's peek - peeks your notifications. At least on other/older phones, the screen turns on when you get a notification and again when it senses motion. I understand the V30's display just stays on all the time.
I guess I just get distracted easily...
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I guess the thing is that it was the one thing I was most worried about and, while I miss it, I don't miss it as much as I thought I would.

Alright, first thing I want to clear up is this:
Plastic OLED does NOT mean the display is actually plastic. You CANNOT tell by touching it. You can tell the difference by touching the S8 and the V30? Both are glass! LOL.. Also, AMOLED is what Samsung calls its OLED displays. There's no LG AMOLED panel. So its not "plastic AMOLED", its just p-OLED.
Now, for the most important part about this topic, all recent OLED panels that have any kind of flexibility/curve are ALL plastic substrate OLED panels. Including the AMOLED panels on the recent Samsung S and Note devices. LG calls it pOLED (stupid choice for a name tbh, it causes this exact sort of misunderstanding!). So, the "plastic" just refers to the plastic substrate layer instead of the glass substrate layer used on OLEDs prior to the flexible displays. It's under the glass and digitizer, its part of the actual display panel, so there's no way you can tell the difference by touching or looking at it.
I agree about the sharp edges on the USB port, SIM tray cutout and headphone jack, it's one of the first things I noticed. Not an issue really, but feels like someone forgot to grind the edges down.
The speaker is plenty loud for notifications or the occasional Youtube video for me. I NEVER play music on a phone speaker and if I'm going to watch something, I almost always use my earphones. So, personally, it's a non-issue as long as I don't miss notifications.
Good review overall mate, just make sure you do the necessary research (doesn't take more than a few mins) and avoid making assumptions. Cheers!

General Initial impressions

Got my Sunny Yellow one delivered this morning so been playing with it most of the day. Initial impressions are very good, some are listed below. Feel free to list your own.
The fingerprint scanner was a little off but after an update came in i deleted my fingerprints and re-did them and its been fine ever since. Couple of times it hasnt worked but i think thats because the screen is so smooth/slippery that my thumb slipped on the screen as it was trying to read it.
I dont have a 5g plan or even 5g signal where i am to test but so far 4g speeds are exactly the same as my pixel 2xl and oppo reno 2 ive come from.
I dont really like having the "internet" tile, id prefer having them seperate the wifi and mobile data tab. Just seems strange to add a further click to enable/disable wifi when i want to instead of just hitting the tab.
On the home screen if you make a folder then the apps slightly overhang the edge of the circle which just looks odd to me, i wish they were all within the folder.
I wish there was an option of disabling the big clock on the lock screen. I have a picture of my partner on my lock screen and when picking up the phone id rather see her than her face covered by a huge clock
The phone got very hot when setting up and transferring apps/data from my old phone but has been fine since.
I love the screen and how smooth everything flows. I dont see any issue with brightness personally. Ill see how battery life performs over the coming days

Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.

The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
The rounded edge screen is pretty terrible. There are optical distortions along the sides. The radius of the edge should be reduced to around 1 mm.
A little more width on the screen would be nice. This is 71.5mm. Nexus 6 was 74, which was a lot nicer. 80 would be a dream.
A little bit of border around the screen would also be nice so you have somewhere to actually hold the thing. Function should be paramount, not form, and especially not goofy/ugly form like these have. A bit of border above the screen would make space to get the camera out of the screen instead of the ugly hole. I also hate the rounded corners on the screen. Software rounded corners are ok, because you can disable them, there is no reason to force it with paint on the inside surface of the glass.

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The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
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feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is

Love it so far, so fast and fluid. As mentioned above it gets real hot, and was still discharging while using old pixel charger.
Camera is amazing the details captured are stunning.
Phone is very slippery to hold and would be easy to drop with the top weight of the camera hump. Tried to buy a case for grip and protection, and was told that they can until tomorrow because that was the day the phone was supposed to be delivered, but because of our crap postal service they sent a day early so that people would or should get them by that date
Real time translation works very well, even with the new update still seems a little buggy
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
I could buy pixel charger which I might take back because it doesn't seem to charge an faster.
My wireless car charger for the pixel 4xl charges this phone at about the same speed as the old wall charger, need to see if it throttles for heat though..

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feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is
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I agree, but it also would be heavy

This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.

danw_oz said:
I agree, but it also would be heavy
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There as a day when heavy meant PREMIUM and light meant junk.
My laptop (lenovo), not even old, actually had some weights added into it to make it feel more substantial.
And so what if its a little heavier as long as it isn't burdensome. You can easily carry around several pounds without it being burdensome.

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This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.
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If you were referring to the rounded CORNERS, there will be kind-of software solutions for the rounded corners. Right now you can run "wm size 1440x2890" to reduce the display area (persistently). This brings the display area past the camera hole and past the rounded corners. Now normally, there would be a system property available to adjust the corners, however this one has multi-radius corners which are set in a config for systemui, therefore will actually require a rebuild from source to fix, but once that is unset, it should have square corners.
However the side effect of course, will be a slightly smaller display area. Still wider than the non-Pro, but less than it is now. Not that you need all that height for any practical purpose.
And for that matter, you could use the same "wm size" command to reduce the display width to work around the rounded edges. "wm size 1300x3120" pulls the display area all the way into the flat part and eliminates the optical distortions. You could probably establish a better balance that lets it in just a little bit and probably gives the same width as the non-Pro.

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Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.
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Nova Launcher was crashing for me but it seemed to be a clock widget I had previously and it wasn't displaying it.
I deleted the widget and rebooted the phone and it has been perfect since and all day today.
My screen now looks like my 3XL only longer, faster, smoother

I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?

Thanks for the tip on Nova, might rebuild my screen from scratch with it too ID the issue. The pixel launcher without some custom apps and grid sizes is a bit of a jarring experience. Search at the bottom is all wrong too.

magooo said:
I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?
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settings, display, lock screen, turn off "always show time and info"

danw_oz said:
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
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Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.

Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest

Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Have you gotten the small 70 MB Android update yet? Mine was buggy with Nova Launcher Prime, in particular, but after the update, all good.
I like the fingerprint reader better than the ultrasonic in my Note 10+. It's working much better and faster for me so far. Here's hoping that stays true.

Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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id suggest resetting then. Working fine for most people

Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Could you describe what you mean by "buggy as hell"?

wekebu said:
Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
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Search play for high brightness mode or HBM software by @flar2 an amazing kernal and software developer

According to Goggle I have a defective unit and they are going to swap it out

Question Does anyone else experience this Samsung display touch glitch?

I purchased a new Galaxy S21 FE a few weeks ago, and I noticed that while the screen is responsive 90-95% of the time, every so often it won’t respond to a tap or swipe, necessitating an extra prod (or a few). Whether it's not pulling down the notification ceiling when swiping, or missing a key (or space bar) when typing despite tapping it, among others.
To reiterate, it’s not a problem with the screen itself because it mostly works fine, but every so often the software interacting with the display that responds to touches seems to glitch. And it’s not connected to any specific part of the screen either. And the phone in general is fast, and there's no lag in animations so it's not a refresh rate issue either.
I should note that a few months ago I returned a new Galaxy A53 with a similar issue. And a relative of mine with the Galaxy A32 5G said she has the same problem as well.
Does anyone else experience this with the S21 FE or any other recent Samsung phones? My 2016 Samsung phone's display/touch has none of these problems, despite being slower in general due to its age, and it being from the Samsung J series.

Anyone?

I come from an s20, and I received the s21 fe this week, and I noticed a little error, in the touch. It's like sometimes he doesn't recognize the fastest or light touch in a few times.

I admit mine does not feel very precise at times. I cannot pinpoint exactly what's going on but it's like it's slippery and I do not have a great accuracy on it. It did have a problem with the screen jumping up and down when scrolling sometimes but with the recent updates, this issue seems to be solved. However I still feel it is not precise or smooth as a S21 Ultra for example.

caiovinniciusbr said:
I come from an s20, and I received the s21 fe this week, and I noticed a little error, in the touch. It's like sometimes he doesn't recognize the fastest or light touch in a few times.
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Randi03 said:
I admit mine does not feel very precise at times. I cannot pinpoint exactly what's going on but it's like it's slippery and I do not have a great accuracy on it. It did have a problem with the screen jumping up and down when scrolling sometimes but with the recent updates, this issue seems to be solved. However I still feel it is not precise or smooth as a S21 Ultra for example.
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Please report it in the Samsung members app. With more people reporting these bugs, there's more of a chance that a patch will be released.

xda-eh said:
Anyone?
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Yes, me. Got this phone a few weeks ago and have noticed it randomly not responding to a tap, pinch or swipe. Exact symptoms as you.
Wondered if this was a known issue with Samsungs or not and whether there was a software patch for it.
Any luck?

+1
I already wrote about it somewhere.
Often I have to double-click first or press a button, then a fingerprint will work. I can't find when this occurs. And I'm sure, this comes in December with Android 13.

tuncan said:
And I'm sure, this comes in December with Android 13.
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Actually, in my case it seems to have gotten a little better after the Android 13 update, but it's still a problem.

I was adamant that this issue was the device itself. But funnily enough, having removed the glass screen protector, the problem has disappeared.
It must've been that layer interfering with touch recognition.

daveshirman said:
having removed the glass screen protector, the problem has disappeared.
It must've been that later interfering with touch recognition.
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In my case removing the protector doesn't help.

I don't use a screen protector on my phone.

I am having the same issue anyone got any fix?