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Hi,
I sent my phone to HTC for repair as the screen was yellow and had poor battery life
they changed the screen and the battery and its amazing now
there are no yellow spots and it works like a charm
the battery lasts 1.50 days dispite heavy use
for those having issues please send it to HTC.
If u send it back to your retailer for an exchange u are not guaranteed to get a phone without an issue, screen especially whereas sending the phone to HTC they make sure there are no issues after a repair they have done a good job and Im really happy with the phone now
8 years I buy HTC phones and have very good experience with them.
Only once I had a issue with my phone, they picked up and returned the machine fixed in 3 days.
htc will fix/replace your device if it has yellow spots?
100% its called Mura. Tell them and they will replace the lcd and u wont face the issue ever again as it s a known issue
Mine had this issue mainly and the new screen rocks
they are easier to deal with then apple... i will never buy another apple product mainly because of their customer service...
DallasGT01 said:
they are easier to deal with then apple... i will never buy another apple product mainly because of their customer service...
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Thats odd, I had an ipod touch a few years back and my experience at the time was really positive. I had a problem and scheduled a visit online, went down to the local mall and gave it to them, they swapped it out for me. I've never had that good of an experience with anything else I own. Of course, that was the only new apple product I've ever had, so maybe regular apple users have a different experience, dunno.
I also have sent my HTC off for repairs (to some place in houston). It wasn't the screen, I had a problem with my mobile data that all but stopped working indoors and barely worked outdoors. I'll see how that goes. They did tell me that if they need any parts, it will cost me $20 because my One X is from france, whatever that means. Its really sad though, I don't really have any other usable android devices at the moment so I'm stuck using my work's blackberry while I wait. I hate that thing, I feel like i've gone back to the 90's.
That's very strange they ask $ 20 for it because HTC warrantee is worldwide.
The phone they fixed for me that time was a HTC Artemis P3300 from the US and I live in Holland. They didn't charge anything.
bveditz said:
I also have sent my HTC off for repairs (to some place in houston). It wasn't the screen, I had a problem with my mobile data that all but stopped working indoors and barely worked outdoors. I'll see how that goes. They did tell me that if they need any parts, it will cost me $20
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The battery lasts 1.50 days dispite heavy use
What sort of heavy use, can you post some stats, wondering if I need a repair ? bet a few other people are thinking the same
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The battery lasts 1.50 days dispite heavy use
What sort of heavy use, can you post some stats, wondering if I need a repair ? bet a few other people are thinking the same
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Hi,
Im a recruiter so i have to constantly make calls a lot of calls.
Also to achieve this i had to do the following
wifi sleep policy disabled when asleep
i also disabled apps like books, movies, watch, sound hound, google + fm radio stuffim never going to use to see the disable button u need to uninstall updates first.
these ate battery like hell cos they were running in the background.
Hope that helps
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Hi,
Im a recruiter so i have to constantly make calls a lot of calls.
Also to achieve this i had to do the following
wifi sleep policy disabled when asleep
i also disabled apps like books, movies, watch, sound hound, google + fm radio stuffim never going to use to see the disable button u need to uninstall updates first.
these ate battery like hell cos they were running in the background.
Hope that helps
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Screenshot of the usage and display time please. Otherwise I think you have the same battery everyone else has...
Also Stock unrooted phone I believe? If so can perfectly compare with my usage.
Laurentius26 said:
That's very strange they ask $ 20 for it because HTC warrantee is worldwide.
The phone they fixed for me that time was a HTC Artemis P3300 from the US and I live in Holland. They didn't charge anything.
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Yeah, they said because I live in the US and I purchased a phone from france and the repair place is in the US they would need to special order parts. Who knows. I'm actually a little concerned since they mistyped my email address (luckily I got the email anyway since I own the domain) on the rma info and even though they received the device on wednesday (according to the post office), there have been no updates to the website that they've received or are repairing it. So... I'll have to call them again and see what happened.
There is something to be said to buying devices directly from a local carrier.
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Yeah, they said because I live in the US and I purchased a phone from france and the repair place is in the US they would need to special order parts. Who knows. I'm actually a little concerned since they mistyped my email address (luckily I got the email anyway since I own the domain) on the rma info and even though they received the device on wednesday (according to the post office), there have been no updates to the website that they've received or are repairing it. So... I'll have to call them again and see what happened.
There is something to be said to buying devices directly from a local carrier.
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I sent mine off to HTC too in the UK. They picked it up on Wednesday, Thursday evening it was showing as device received on their repair tracking.
Today afternoon it is showing as in repair.... :\ hopefully i get it middle of this week as i have no phone to use whatsoever. hopefully they will fix my yellow spot, i think the gorilla glass was not sitting properly on the LCD. as when i pressed it slightly it was gone.
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I sent mine off to HTC too in the UK. They picked it up on Wednesday, Thursday evening it was showing as device received on their repair tracking.
Today afternoon it is showing as in repair.... :\ hopefully i get it middle of this week as i have no phone to use whatsoever. hopefully they will fix my yellow spot, i think the gorilla glass was not sitting properly on the LCD. as when i pressed it slightly it was gone.
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Better luck than me... My phone was delivered on the 13th but never made it to 'received'. I now have an escalation ticket into HTC to find it. It took a few calls to them for them to even care that my phone was missing, they just kept saying that the repair place was probably behind. I then had to call them for an escalation ticket, then had to call a few days later to re-do the escalation ticket because the last guy didn't do it properly, then a call a few days later to get someone assigned to the escalation ticket. I'm now at the few days mark again, so I'll have to call again on monday and can hardly wait to hear the response this time.
I couldn't use the blackberry any longer, so I spent the other night screwing with my old captivate to at least get it working again so I'm not living in the dark ages anymore.
So, after a bunch more calls back and forth, they finally found my phone. At which point it sat for a couple more weeks while they ordered parts. Then they called back with the bad news. Apparently they can't order the parts because it's an international phone and due to copyright laws (supposedly) they can't ship the parts it needs overseas. The only options are to 1) return the phone, 2) send the phone to HTC France or 3) Replace the phone with an AT&T One-X. Obviously #1 is out. #3 isn't a great choice either, because the AT&T isn't as good as the International version, and so I discussed #2 with them. #2 apparently is only an option if I have a French shipping address, which obviously I don't. So, I'm pretty much out of options.
I think I may just take them up on replacing it with the AT&T one, and since it's new, I'll just ebay it and take the money to -mostly- pay for the S3. I really liked the One-x, but I don't want the limitations it already has (SD & Battery) combined with the more severe limitations of the AT&T version (dual core, 16gb storage - I can't use LTE so that's not a benefit).
Luckily my captivate has been holding up during this whole fiasco, but It's really on it's last legs.
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Yeah, they said because I live in the US and I purchased a phone from france and the repair place is in the US they would need to special order parts. Who knows. I'm actually a little concerned since they mistyped my email address (luckily I got the email anyway since I own the domain) on the rma info and even though they received the device on wednesday (according to the post office), there have been no updates to the website that they've received or are repairing it. So... I'll have to call them again and see what happened.
There is something to be said to buying devices directly from a local carrier.
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It happened to someone else too. It's not parts, it's this...
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This makes sense but not for the reasons given. The U.S. One X's have the "app picker" disabled; users have to pre-set an event in settings for a single action to occur when clicking on a link in an app. Those sold outside the U.S. present a list of apps to choose from each time you click on a link just as every other Android device. Making sure the U.S. versions didn't have this feature enabled therefore violating Apple's patent is what held them up at customs. HTC U.S. restoring that feature, even on an international device, would be in violation of the patent. So if they had to replace the motherboard they couldn't load the international s/w on it and they have no alternative ROM with the feature disabled that runs on Teg3.
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It happened to someone else too. It's not parts, it's this...
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Great, thanks for that explanation. I didn't really understand and I don't think the HTC guy knew or was able to explain it either.
So, this is one of the post where a "user" rants!
Well, I am a software engineer, bought a defy this august thinking that it will be a cool experience after samsung galaxy ace got messed in rain.
I needed something robust. Well, then i invested in defy.
Phone went fine till september when it started giving issue with data cable, never detected my PC. 22nd October i gave it to service center.
Amazingly they give it to me after 2 months on 13 december, Well, better late than never as they say. I happily went back with my phone. Next day in office phone starts rebooting at random and my 3g signal just looks like barely coming in. Tested sim card on a galaxy and network was good. After a lot of research turns out that hardware is faulty, though earlier my phone used to be amazing at 3g.
While checking hardware turns out to be IMEI is different than what i gave and i was not even notified when receiving. Great move. Never mind, called back customer care again and they ask for minimum 20+ days time. Which is again great.
Thought of selling it to shop for atleast 60 USD or roughly 3000 INR. Bought it for 13000 INR. The shopkeeper says that box and bill has a different IMEI and he cant buy it for me, unless its free.
Just dropped motorola a mail
"So, here is my introduction.
I am a customer who buys a defy in august. A month later the usb starts giving an issue, in october i give it to service center, and in december first week i get it back. 2 months? really? and when i take it back to home, turns out that IMEI is different, and my phone just randomly reboots now. Alright, you guys gonna fix.. but well guess what, Service says 20+ days expected time... really? After all this i really wanted to go for a consumer court case, but i really pity how the things are being handled. You want my IMEI.. but which IMEI? thanks to you guys i have TWO IMEIs .. Point of my mail is not to get a solution, coz after all these months i know motorola wont have a solution for me. But Just saying that stay this way and whatever is left of in India .. of present or the future.. none willl ever trust motorola. Know the worst thing? I cant even sell my phone as my box and bill has a different IMEI. Thanks a lot motorola."
I have all valid ground to sue them, but dont want to. Rather i cant. I dont have time to get into this, as i start at morning 8 for office and its usually late when im back. Instead of getting 13000 Rs handset refunded, while loosing thousands a day by not being involved in office doesnt sound fair. Rather taking it as an "accident" that i stumbled across motorola.
Purpose of mail : NOTHING...
Just felt like ranting a bit. Nothing more, am right now sitting in my room with a sony xperia J. Nice display and good battery (though not amazing hardware but am an adventurer, not a power user, I need battery). For performance i use my laptop
While the time i was here in defy community it was good. Enjoyed a lot of custom roms. Quarx's and walter79's work always amazed me.
Anyways, time to switch to xperia community now.
Seems unbelievable that you got two faulty devices in a row... Me and my brother have both got DEFY+'s and both are working perfectly fine (never had battery drops on any ROM, come alone some bigger failure). So... I don't know, I'm just sorry that you had such a bad experience when Moto's are one of the most endurable phones (not talking just about the DEFY's now). In my experience and knowledge they are at least.
Oh, nevermind, I don't want to turn this into a Moto-fans vs others thread, just saying
I'm glad that you've enjoyed our community!
yeah, quite unlucky of me, but more bad was the service they gave to me. Got defy plus after a lot of research and reviews from actual owners. But seriously, motorola needs to learn. If the thing doesn't get sold, i can use it as a navigator (doesnt reboot when data is off) and fix it on my motorcycle.
It's so unlucky man. Because Defy is such a 'slave' mobile phone that you can put it to hell and can see it's still working. I'm using Defy for more than 1 year now and you don't know how roughly I'm using it. I'm from the southern part of India and you can guess the lifestyle here. This mobile has survived the dusty climate of Tamil Nadu, the pouring monsoon of Kerala and my software experiments with this poor soul, oh my god if not Defy, it would have screamed! I have tested every custom ROMs available for Defy here and it hasn't shown any rejection to any of them whatsoever. No problems with any of the hardware including speakers, display etc. In fact I'm going to try another ROM just after posting this. :cyclops: It is such a reliable machine and what happened to you may be one in a million.
well, all I want to say I would to love to take up your case against the company
I'll take up this one for free just for you all you need to do is sit back and give me the details i'll handle rest of it
P.S: I'll take 40% of of the compensation awarded
This thread goes to nowhere.
Closed.
So I got my Moto 360 in the mail on Friday and have worn it for 2 days, i got my girlfriend one for Christmas so i noticed my button was clicking weird. Upon further investigation i saw that my button was loose, like basically hanging off, and could just be simply tugged out. After calling Motorola to tell them about the issue and being on the phone for 48 mins, I still have no resolve they seem to not be able to find my serial number on the watch even though i ordered it directly from them just last week. What to do?
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So I got my Moto 360 in the mail on Friday and have worn it for 2 days, i got my girlfriend one for Christmas so i noticed my button was clicking weird. Upon further investigation i saw that my button was loose, like basically hanging off, and could just be simply tugged out. After calling Motorola to tell them about the issue and being on the phone for 48 mins, I still have no resolve they seem to not be able to find my serial number on the watch even though i ordered it directly from them just last week. What to do?
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Motorola customer support is terrible. Really terrible. I suggest you keep trying. Request that the incident be escalated to the higher branch of customer service if you don't get the answers you're looking for. Reference the order number when calling. Also try posting about it on their forums or via social media (Twitter specifically). I had to jump through a bunch of hoops just to RMA a leather band that arrived damaged.
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Motorola customer support is terrible. Really terrible. I suggest you keep trying. Request that the incident be escalated to the higher branch of customer service if you don't get the answers you're looking for. Reference the order number when calling. Also try posting about it on their forums or via social media (Twitter specifically). I had to jump through a bunch of hoops just to RMA a leather band that arrived damaged.
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thanks man and I've heard nightmare stories of their customer service. But it sucks that I got one with an issue like this. I was on hold so much it's ridiculous.
So I decided to share my experience with Google so far. An experience that unfortunately is still ongoing. I'll start by saying the last pixel device I purchased was the nexus 6p. Decided I was going to try the pixel 6 pro as I was intrigued with the new features and Google tensor capabilities.
Release day comes. I try to preorder the 6p and the website keeps crashing before I can complete the order. After 2 hours of trying, I suddenly get a message say they were out of stock. I was bummed. I decided to try later that night and to my surprise everything was back in stock and I was able to finally submit my order.
After waiting a week or two, my device finally ships and arrives. I have the phone for 2 weeks and suddenly the system board completely fries. Screen totally black and will not power on. I Google my options and find a page where Google recommends taking it to an "authorized repair shop". The shop is nearly 45 minutes away. I take it there only to be told "they will see what they can do". A few days later I get a call and they say the system board is fried and I should contact Google to have a replacement sent out. I already knew the system board was likely fried from the symptoms. The "repair shop had no parts to fix the phone and had no replacements in hand to swap mine out with. So what was the point in trying them? I ended up wasting 3 hours of driving time just to be in the same position I was.
So I contact Google and initiate a replacement request after waiting on hold for over 1 hour. I pick the "rush" option where they send the device and put a hold on your account until you send back the old phone. After a week, my replacement still wasn't shipped. I had to contact Google support and after the 4th try, they finally shipped out the replacement. As soon as I received the replacement, I sent back the defective unit with the prepaid label they included. It was due back December 16th to avoid charges. I tracked my package and it showed Google received it December 9th. Ok .. great. End of story right? Nope!
December 16th rolls around and I get a notice saying I didn't send back the defective device and I would be charged the full amount of the replacement device. Furious that I once again would have to reach out to Google, I replied to the email from my last support ticket to let them know they once again messed up and incorrectly charged me. I receive a reply saying my issue would be escalated. After 3 days I heard nothing else. I replied to email asking for an update and again, no response. So I decided I would have to once again get a call from Google. The support person clearly had no idea what they were doing and I was told they were going to escalate the ticket and I would hear back in 24 - 48 hours. 3 days later, still have not heard back. So once again, time to contact Google. Again, same result as I was given no answers and the ticket was escalated and still have not heard anything back.
So it has now been 2 weeks that I was incorrectly charged and $973 was stolen from my account. Google obviously does not want to fix this as it takes 5 seconds to confirm with tracking number that I sent the device back and issue a refund. At this time I feel like I need to look at other options because they simply will not resolve the issue.
Has anyone else ever had this awful experience with google trying to get an incorrect charge removed/reimbursed? I am thinking of disputing the charge through my bank to see if they have better luck, but not sure if that is the best answer or not. One thing is for sure, Google will NEVER make another dime from me as long as I am alive. 2 weeks and they still have not corrected a mistake THEY made and returned my money? Outrageous. I wouldn't expect this level of support from the worst company in the world.
I am sorry that you had to go through this. I read someone else's experience which was similar on the Google Pixel reddit. Not sure if you posted there too but there are a few others who have either gotten damaged phones or received empty boxes and they stated Google would just escalate the issue, back and forth several times.
From my experience, I've never had an issue with Google support but this was for the Nexus 6p, 2XL, 3XL, and 4XL. Each time an advanced RMA went through without a hitch.
For my first 6 Pro that I sent back for a screen issue, the support person seemed to have no idea what I was talking about as they were asking if I modified the screen or the underside of the screen? Nonetheless they issued an Advanced RMA and I got it and sent the old unit back without problems.
But as I have been noticing, I think their support has been outsourced now, they are short staffed and it seems "escalating" just means it will get passed on to the next support person. The last time I called, I could barely hear the support person because you could hear everyone else in the call center too. I don't recall having this same experience on my previous phones years ago.
Have you tried calling instead of email? Keep trying until you get an Agent that is willing to help. If anything, try to tweet them at @madebygoogle with your issue and see if that gets the ball rolling.
If you do a charge back they can block access to your google account so make sure you back everything up and take it out of google if you absolutely have to do this.
Good advice above on the charge back. I have heard of that happening.
Google employees don't so support, they farm support, shipping and repair out to Ingram. They suck.
Bummer! It's needle in a hay stack to get good googleeeee support all in one place!
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I am sorry that you had to go through this. I read someone else's experience which was similar on the Google Pixel reddit. Not sure if you posted there too but there are a few others who have either gotten damaged phones or received empty boxes and they stated Google would just escalate the issue, back and forth several times.
From my experience, I've never had an issue with Google support but this was for the Nexus 6p, 2XL, 3XL, and 4XL. Each time an advanced RMA went through without a hitch.
For my first 6 Pro that I sent back for a screen issue, the support person seemed to have no idea what I was talking about as they were asking if I modified the screen or the underside of the screen? Nonetheless they issued an Advanced RMA and I got it and sent the old unit back without problems.
But as I have been noticing, I think their support has been outsourced now, they are short staffed and it seems "escalating" just means it will get passed on to the next support person. The last time I called, I could barely hear the support person because you could hear everyone else in the call center too. I don't recall having this same experience on my previous phones years ago.
Have you tried calling instead of email? Keep trying until you get an Agent that is willing to help. If anything, try to tweet them at @madebygoogle with your issue and see if that gets the ball rolling.
If you do a charge back they can block access to your google account so make sure you back everything up and take it out of google if you absolutely have to do this.
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Yea I first started with email, pretty much got blown off, then I requested a call twice, both times resulting in the same "we will escalate your issue and you'll hear back in 1 or 2 days", and this last time I used chat. Surprisingly, the chat person has been replying to my emails, but still unhelpful as the replied are "your issue has been escalated, please allow us another 1- 3 days to resolve your issue" every 3 days. I just don't understand how a company is allowed to operate in this way. Yes accidents happen and companies sometimes screw up, but then they are quick to own and resolve it. Definitely hasn't been the case here. Especially with doing this right before the holidays when money is tight? I'm comfortable right now, but a lot of people can't afford to have $973 stolen from them.
I just realized I first reached out to Google December 12th after noticing the hold was still on my account 3 days after FedEx tracking confirmed it was shipped and they received it. Still have not been refunded. That means today is day 23 that Google incorrectly stole my money and has not refunded me. 23 days. UNBELIEVABLE. Never EVER buying a Google product from Google again. Sadly a quick Google search reveals my case is not an abnormally. Hopefully their support catches up to them and the company crashes and burns. One can hope. No legit company should be permitted to operate in this way.
I hope that you have proof of your sent-in (pictures of the package, receipt from sending in). I'd probably wait a couple more days (~ 1 month total) and in case they haven't refunded you by then, write them again (e-mail or whatever, always in written form! telephone is worth nothing in front a court, since you can't proof sh*t) and give them a deadline (must be reasonable) to process your case, or else you will go to a lawyer.
As advice for the future (in case you haven't done that already), if you package anything of value - my own minimum is ~150 € - have a witness there when you package the product (friend, mother, whatever - dog will probably not count - if you want to go overkill, prepare a written statement for them (product is in functioning condition, is packed properly, witness to that blabliblup), so they can just sign it to help your case - in case anything goes wrong), best also make a small video / photos of the packaging process. That way you have hard proof and if you go to a lawyer with that, they'll rub their hands and get you your money in no time. It's important that you can prove that you have properly shipped the product.
I know that this sounds "overkill", but you have just experienced why this is important. DHL once destroyed a 4 figures expensive OLED of mine whilst transporting it and only because I prepared proof in advance of the pristine condition of the product, I was able to get 100% of my money back. It will only take a couple minutes - and s*it happens. In 99 of 100 cases, it will not be important and you might "waste" a couple minutes each time. But once you get a problem... you will wish that you made the effort...
By the way, since you talked about bank/reimbursed (disputing the charge through your bank) in your OP post, DO NOT do that. Google will use that as an excuse to shut down all your Google accounts, since "the relationship of trust with the customer is disturbed" - or something along the lines of that. If they don't act within a reasonable time frame given, get a lawyer. Do not act on your own and DO NOT remove money from Googles account. That will instantly create red flags in your profile and will permanently damage your standing with that company. And since Google is just a small indie company, you might not care about that. But... You know where I'm going with this.
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I just realized I first reached out to Google December 12th after noticing the hold was still on my account 3 days after FedEx tracking confirmed it was shipped and they received it. Still have not been refunded. That means today is day 23 that Google incorrectly stole my money and has not refunded me. 23 days. UNBELIEVABLE. Never EVER buying a Google product from Google again. Sadly a quick Google search reveals my case is not an abnormally. Hopefully their support catches up to them and the company crashes and burns. One can hope. No legit company should be permitted to operate in this way.
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So you didn't get charged but have a hold on the amount, right? Don't banks remove a hold after a certain number of days? I'd start with them. As for destroying your Google account, they used to do that when Google was running the return/support process. Now they have outsourced it and I wonder if they will still do that. I haven't seen current reports on that but you can check Reddit for all the down and dirty stuff like that.
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I hope that you have proof of your sent-in (pictures of the package, receipt from sending in). I'd probably wait a couple more days (~ 1 month total) and in case they haven't refunded you by then, write them again (e-mail or whatever, always in written form! telephone is worth nothing in front a court, since you can't proof sh*t) and give them a deadline (must be reasonable) to process your case, or else you will go to a lawyer.
As advice for the future (in case you haven't done that already), if you package anything of value - my own minimum is ~150 € - have a witness there when you package the product (friend, mother, whatever - dog will probably not count - if you want to go overkill, prepare a written statement for them (product is in functioning condition, is packed properly, witness to that blabliblup), so they can just sign it to help your case - in case anything goes wrong), best also make a small video / photos of the packaging process. That way you have hard proof and if you go to a lawyer with that, they'll rub their hands and get you your money in no time. It's important that you can prove that you have properly shipped the product.
I know that this sounds "overkill", but you have just experienced why this is important. DHL once destroyed a 4 figures expensive OLED of mine whilst transporting it and only because I prepared proof in advance of the pristine condition of the product, I was able to get 100% of my money back. It will only take a couple minutes - and s*it happens. In 99 of 100 cases, it will not be important and you might "waste" a couple minutes each time. But once you get a problem... you will wish that you made the effort...
By the way, since you talked about bank/reimbursed (disputing the charge through your bank) in your OP post, DO NOT do that. Google will use that as an excuse to shut down all your Google accounts, since "the relationship of trust with the customer is disturbed" - or something along the lines of that. If they don't act within a reasonable time frame given, get a lawyer. Do not act on your own and DO NOT remove money from Googles account. That will instantly create red flags in your profile and will permanently damage your standing with that company. And since Google is just a small indie company, you might not care about that. But... You know where I'm going with this.
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Thanks. Appreciate the feedback and advice. You know, you are 100 percent correct with sending things back. No one really thinks about it because a majority of the time it goes smoothly, but when there are issues it's extremely difficult to prove and any extra steps/precautions would be critical. I will start doing this going forward as I am a very precautions person and have little trust in the way everything operates nowadays.
I finally got an email from Google a few hours ago saying they were "processing a refund". Disturbing part is it says it can take up to 14 days. So hopefully at this point it's resolved and the money shows up. I notified my bank to seize looking into this matter for now and hold the claim to avoid any issues you mentioned. What an absolute nightmare. I truly can't understand how they are a successful lucrative company and have support comparable to a kindergarten student at a lemonade stand.
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So you didn't get charged but have a hold on the amount, right? Don't banks remove a hold after a certain number of days? I'd start with them. As for destroying your Google account, they used to do that when Google was running the return/support process. Now they have outsourced it and I wonder if they will still do that. I haven't seen current reports on that but you can check Reddit for all the down and dirty stuff like that.
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At first it was a hold until December 16th when they sent an email saying they never received it and it turned into a legit charge. Unreal, but finally seem to be making progress as per my last post.
I did a quick search and man... It's disturbing to see how common this is. I mean how can a company operate this way and yet still generate hundreds of millions in revenue? Blows my mind.
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I did a quick search and man... It's disturbing to see how common this is. I mean how can a company operate this way and yet still generate hundreds of millions in revenue? Blows my mind.
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Do a search for Samsung, Apple, (insert name of company here) and you will find the same results. It's just the way it is and always has been. Just much more pronounced now in this day of covid and people not working and everyone understaffed.
Yes, my experience with Google warranty was very similar.
The problem is these ass clowns are using FedEx Ground and they take their sweet ass time. Not only with this shipment but literally every shipment for me that's ever touched their system for the last year has been delayed. If not stated no delivery information available, what???
I used to work for FedEx Express. There was pride in there their work ethic and getting people their stuff typically within minutes of the commitment time at the latest. Now they just don't give AF.
Yes, they charged my card too. I called fraud and had them reach out to FedEx Ground and fix their lazy delivery style.
In addition, Google was very slow to admit that my old phone was overheating from no user error whatsoever. That process took two months. They definitely didn't send me a replacement that was an unlocked bootloader.
What a nightmare.
I bought an open box 6 Pro from Best Buy and it randomly decides to have a stuck green pixel and a giant line across the screen. Trying to exchange it has been hell because it has to be another open box and they are hard to catch but I managed to today. The phone rep guy just added it to my original order and it's gonna be here tuesday. No mention of returning the one I have.
This should be interesting, I spent a bit of time on the phone and I was referred to a "Senior Specialist". This person emailed me with these requests:
To better assist you with your current Google Pixel Watch concern, please reply to this email with these information:
Detailed description of the issue (please include as much information as possible):
Device serial number:
Purchase date:
Retailer or store (e.g. Google Store, Best Buy, etc.) where the watch was purchased:
Country where you’re currently in:
Address:
Contact number:
Incident date:
Questions to answer:
Is the device still working?
Was there a change in device temperature?
Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?
If not, what’s the brand of the charging cable you used?
During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen?
How long was the device in use before the incident (days, weeks, months, etc)?
Also, please send us photos of the following:
Focus on the specific issue and the overall placement of device
Photos of the device (front and back)
Photos of the charging cable, adapter, or charging station (for third-party accessories, include the make and model)
{Only if you reported an injury} Photos of the affected area
All this seems a bit excessive to me, especially considering that I gave all this information on a 15 minute call, but what the hell do I know, I only did elevator electronics tech support before becoming the manager of that unit.
This was my response:
The issue is simple, my Pixel watch will not charge. I have two charger pods bought from the Google store and neither one charges the watch. I can place the watch on either of the pods and the charging animation does not come on and the battery level does not change from the way it was when I woke up: 57%. Two things I noticed is that the watch will get warm if left on the charger, and the app on my Pixel 7 Pro shows connected but never syncs.
The serial number is: 25041JEEJWO2KU
The purchase Date is November 18th, 2022
Bought from Amazon
I live in the United States
My Address is: XXXXXXX
My telephone is: XXXXXX
The issue first came up today: 2/6/2023
No, the drive is not working, it is still at 57% despite trying off and on all day long to charge it.
As I said before the watch got warm when I tried charging it. The tech that I spoke to before this email told me to not put it back on the charger, to prevent the unit from getting warm - so I have only briefly tried to see if maybe the charge would begin. Foolish though, but I am an optimist.
"Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?" My chargers are sold by Google: https://store.google.com/us/product/watch_charger?sku=_pixwatch_usbc_mag_chrgr_snow&hl=en-US
"During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen? " - I found a problem when I woke up and tried charging my phone. I do this every day when I wake up.
The watch has been working since the day I bought it, November 2022
Also, please send us photos of the following:
Focus on the specific issue and the overall placement of device
Photos of the device (front and back)
Photos of the charging cable, adapter, or charging station (for third-party accessories, include the make and model)
{Only if you reported an injury} Photos of the affected area
No, I am not sending photos because it's stupid. My phone is not physically damaged in any way, not even a scratch on the face.
I eagerly await your call.
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This should be interesting, I spent a bit of time on the phone and I was referred to a "Senior Specialist". This person emailed me with these requests:
To better assist you with your current Google Pixel Watch concern, please reply to this email with these information:
Detailed description of the issue (please include as much information as possible):
Device serial number:
Purchase date:
Retailer or store (e.g. Google Store, Best Buy, etc.) where the watch was purchased:
Country where you’re currently in:
Address:
Contact number:
Incident date:
Questions to answer:
Is the device still working?
Was there a change in device temperature?
Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?
If not, what’s the brand of the charging cable you used?
During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen?
How long was the device in use before the incident (days, weeks, months, etc)?
Also, please send us photos of the following:
Focus on the specific issue and the overall placement of device
Photos of the device (front and back)
Photos of the charging cable, adapter, or charging station (for third-party accessories, include the make and model)
{Only if you reported an injury} Photos of the affected area
All this seems a bit excessive to me, especially considering that I gave all this information on a 15 minute call, but what the hell do I know, I only did elevator electronics tech support before becoming the manager of that unit.
This was my response:
The issue is simple, my Pixel watch will not charge. I have two charger pods bought from the Google store and neither one charges the watch. I can place the watch on either of the pods and the charging animation does not come on and the battery level does not change from the way it was when I woke up: 57%. Two things I noticed is that the watch will get warm if left on the charger, and the app on my Pixel 7 Pro shows connected but never syncs.
The serial number is: 25041JEEJWO2KU
The purchase Date is November 18th, 2022
Bought from Amazon
I live in the United States
My Address is: XXXXXXX
My telephone is: XXXXXX
The issue first came up today: 2/6/2023
No, the drive is not working, it is still at 57% despite trying off and on all day long to charge it.
As I said before the watch got warm when I tried charging it. The tech that I spoke to before this email told me to not put it back on the charger, to prevent the unit from getting warm - so I have only briefly tried to see if maybe the charge would begin. Foolish though, but I am an optimist.
"Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?" My chargers are sold by Google: https://store.google.com/us/product/watch_charger?sku=_pixwatch_usbc_mag_chrgr_snow&hl=en-US
"During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen? " - I found a problem when I woke up and tried charging my phone. I do this every day when I wake up.
The watch has been working since the day I bought it, November 2022
Also, please send us photos of the following:
Focus on the specific issue and the overall placement of device
Photos of the device (front and back)
Photos of the charging cable, adapter, or charging station (for third-party accessories, include the make and model)
{Only if you reported an injury} Photos of the affected area
No, I am not sending photos because it's stupid. My phone is not physically damaged in any way, not even a scratch on the face.
I eagerly await your call.
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Good luck. What is it about "not charging" that they don't understand! Obviously, they have a menu of items no matter what the issue.
LordP666 said:
The issue is simple, my Pixel watch will not charge. I have two charger pods bought from the Google store and neither one charges the watch. I can place the watch on either of the pods and the charging animation does not come on and the battery level does not change from the way it was when I woke up: 57%. Two things I noticed is that the watch will get warm if left on the charger, and the app on my Pixel 7 Pro shows connected but never syncs.
No, the drive is not working, it is still at 57% despite trying off and on all day long to charge it.
As I said before the watch got warm when I tried charging it. The tech that I spoke to before this email told me to not put it back on the charger, to prevent the unit from getting warm - so I have only briefly tried to see if maybe the charge would begin. Foolish though, but I am an optimist.
"Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?" My chargers are sold by Google: https://store.google.com/us/product/watch_charger?sku=_pixwatch_usbc_mag_chrgr_snow&hl=en-US
"During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen? " - I found a problem when I woke up and tried charging my phone. I do this every day when I wake up.
The watch has been working since the day I bought it, November 2022
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I missed the part when you performed a factory reset twice and powered off the device for 5-10 minutes before you add any 3rd party apps.
-- Be certain that you are not a tester of Google Play Services.
rodken said:
I missed the part when you performed a factory reset twice and powered off the device for 5-10 minutes before you add any 3rd party apps.
-- Be certain that you are not a tester of Google Play Services.
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Nope. I'm not doing any resets at all.
I'm waiting for them to tell me to do that and I'll expect a promise to replace the watch if the issue comes up a second time. I don't think having to do resets is normal in any way.
LordP666 said:
I don't think having to do resets is normal in any way.
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Factory resets can fix many chronic issues whether you believe in snake oil or not.
rodken said:
Factory resets can fix many chronic issues whether you believe in snake oil or not.
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Not really the point. I simply don't want factory resets to be the new normal for me - I don't plan on doing it on a daily basis. Or even on a weekly basis.
If that's the case then I want my money back. I want them to promise me a new watch should this occur again.
LordP666 said:
Not really the point. I simply don't want factory resets to be the new normal for me - I don't plan on doing it on a daily basis. Or even on a weekly basis.
If that's the case then I want my money back. I want them to promise me a new watch should this occur again.
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To gain a better understanding of your line of thought.
-- You'd rather Google send a replacement instead of you trying to correct the issue yourself.
-- You are hoping that if and when you get a new watch, that all will be right in the world.
-- If the same issue occurs with the new device - there is always the dreaded Apple Watch.
rodken said:
To gain a better understanding of your line of thought.
-- You'd rather Google send a replacement instead of you trying to correct the issue yourself.
-- You are hoping that if and when you get a new watch, that all will be right in the world.
-- If the same issue occurs with the new device - there is always the dreaded Apple Watch.
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Mostly correct.
I have no problem doing a factory reset - I object to having to do it on a regular basis.
I would hope a new device would work correctly. I had a Samsung Galaxy watch years ago and when it failed for the fourth time, I took a freaking hammer to it - it was more satisfying to do that than to continue having problems. Pixel Watch better watch out (sorry about the pun).
And, no, no way in hell would I wear an Apple device.
This is my latest email exchange:
Hello Lord,
I understand you don't want to send photos of your device, but in order for our team to properly isolate what's happening with your Pixel Watch, our team also needs to thoroughly check your device and its components like the charger and its brick.
ME:
My device is less than 3 months old. The time works, Google Keep works, the heart rate works, the temperature works, and the time to Sunrise works.
There are no scratches, no dents, no dirt, no dings, I did not try to drown it, I did not tape it to a stick of Dynamite, nothing physically wrong with the watch - it is stuck at 57% charging.
WHAT will a picture tell you?
I have the Google charging pods - wireless, in case you are confused.
If you insist on pictures, then we are done. All you would get is a picture of a perfect-looking watch.
I will share my experiences on https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/google-pixel-watch.12613/
And frankly, your demands are ridiculous.
Please reply and tell me if we are done or not.
Thank you.
Any one have a friend at Ars, or somewhere that might be interested? Please contact me.
I'm willing to take this to the limit.
I guess I will ask: Have you tried a RESET or reboot or restart or whatever at all? I don't see that mentioned in the original post but I might have missed it. If not, a reset would be the place to start. It does not mean it will be a permanent requirement. It might just clear up the current glitch, whatever caused it. I did have to do a full reset the second day I owned it. But now it has not had any issues. I have had it about as long as you have.
I will admit, I would definitely like better battery life.
fred2546 said:
I guess I will ask: Have you tried a RESET or reboot or restart or whatever at all? I don't see that mentioned in the original post but I might have missed it. If not, a reset would be the place to start. It does not mean it will be a permanent requirement. It might just clear up the current glitch, whatever caused it. I did have to do a full reset the second day I owned it. But now it has not had any issues. I have had it about as long as you have.
I will admit, I would definitely like better battery life.
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I could, and I will, but I wanted it to be on the record, for them to ask me to do it so that if it happens again I can pressure them into giving me a new watch.
LordP666 said:
I could, and I will, but I wanted it to be on the record, for them to ask me to do it so that if it happens again I can pressure them into giving me a new watch.
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The reasoning behind Google asking for photos is to clarify and to answer the magic question on whether the item is damaged in any form or fashion.
Somewhere along the lines of chasing ghosts - you might want to consider hiring an attorney that specialize in defective products if you want to escalate this to a new level.
rodken said:
The reasoning behind Google asking for photos is to clarify and to answer the magic question on whether the item is damaged in any form or fashion.
Somewhere along the lines of chasing ghosts - you might want to consider hiring an attorney that specialize in defective products if you want to escalate this to a new level.
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I have told them that the time works, the date works, the heart rate works, the weather works, Google Keep works, weather works - why on earth would they think it's damaged?
I'm 73 years old and have had to resort to tech support from time to time, I have never been asked for pictures of a product. Hell, I'm typing this on a Pixel 7 Pro that I got with a trade in for a Pixel 3A, sight unseen, and no photos!
LordP666 said:
I have told them that the time works, the date works, the heart rate works, the weather works, Google Keep works, weather works - why on earth would they think it's damaged?
I'm 73 years old and have had to resort to tech support from time to time, I have never been asked for pictures of a product. Hell, I'm typing this on a Pixel 7 Pro that I got with a trade in for a Pixel 3A, sight unseen, and no photos!
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Bear in mind - Google has been hosed by a great number of scam artists over the years regarding false accusations and dirty tactics to get Google to replacement product under false pretenses.
-- Therefore, by you not complying to their request will raise a red flag whether you like it or not.
rodken said:
Bear in mind - Google has been hosed by a great number of scam artists over the years regarding false accusations and dirty tactics to get Google to replacement product under false pretenses.
-- Therefore, by you not complying to their request will raise a red flag whether you like it or not.
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OK. So be it. My hammer is ready.
I personally believe that it's absurd to have all those requirements before speaking a single word to me - I still have not had a phone call from this guy.
I will be selling my Pixel 7 Pro, and my Pixel Buds - I feel that I can't trust them anymore.
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OK. So be it. My hammer is ready.
I personally believe that it's absurd to have all those requirements before speaking a single word to me - I still have not had a phone call from this guy.
I will be selling my Pixel 7 Pro, and my Pixel Buds - I feel that I can't trust them anymore.
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I feel your pain. Gone are the days where a simple call to customer service was all that was required.
In today's world of high tech and bad actors, most of the Fortune 500 companies are becoming very weary of their bottom line.
In my last job, I didn't work for a Fortune 500, but I did work in tech support, the real kind - definitely not a call center. I started as tech support, became senior field tech support, and wound up being the manager. I traveled all over the United States, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, and Canada.
The company is an elevator controller manufacturer, all the equipment was built in-house. Anything from the controllers, the door operators, the panels, and even the switches were built in-house - motors too. It was a privately owned company until the owners sold it to a venture company from SF. They were in their 80s and didn't trust their own kids to run it.
When someone called us we talked them through any problems they were having, any at all, with any equipment that we built. We would help with installation and troubleshooting. I gave symposiums where union members could get college credits. I even wrote technical manuals.
If you are curious, download this one - I did most of the work on it: https://www.gal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/GALaxy_III_Traction_Elevator_ControllerV3.3.15.pdf
What pisses me off about this problem I'm having is that all the requirements that he demanded are before the guy spoke a single word to me, to ask me what was going on. The presumption that I had broken the thing before a single word passed between us makes me furious.
I invested in the Google ecosystem very heavily and I am just about ready to rip everything out.
LordP666 said:
In my last job, I didn't work for a Fortune 500, but I did work in tech support, the real kind - definitely not a call center. I started as tech support, became senior field tech support, and wound up being the manager. I traveled all over the United States, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, and Canada.
The company is an elevator controller manufacturer, all the equipment was built in-house. Anything from the controllers, the door operators, the panels, and even the switches were built in-house - motors too. It was a privately owned company until the owners sold it to a venture company from SF. They were in their 80s and didn't trust their own kids to run it.
When someone called us we talked them through any problems they were having, any at all, with any equipment that we built. We would help with installation and troubleshooting. I gave symposiums where union members could get college credits. I even wrote technical manuals.
If you are curious, download this one - I did most of the work on it: https://www.gal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/GALaxy_III_Traction_Elevator_ControllerV3.3.15.pdf
What pisses me off about this problem I'm having is that all the requirements that he demanded are before the guy spoke a single word to me, to ask me what was going on. The presumption that I had broken the thing before a single word passed between us makes me furious.
I invested in the Google ecosystem very heavily and I am just about ready to rip everything out.
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I remembered back in the '90's when simply hanging up the phone and redialing several times until you actually hit paydirt with someone who actually cares.
There has been talk over the decades of the 'Decline of Customer Service in America', but all that shows us is that most of these companies just need re-evaluate their training manuals but continue to blame it on the tight labor market or a shortage of qualified employees. But it often comes down to not taking the time to instill core service training for all customer-facing employees.
"But it often comes down to not taking the time to instill core service training for all customer-facing employees."
I completely agree - everything in that last company I worked for was done as on-the-job training. We hired right out of college for the most part and we taught them everything, took them to job sites, and introduced them to the customers. The elevator industry is a small one and you develop friendships, and relationships with the customers. One of the best jobs I have ever had.
I made tons of friends, and the owner gave me an Amex card and he told me to "use the **** out of it" - the deal was that I'd show up to a place like Chicago, go to three or four job sites, and then buy the guys food and drink all night long. I did this in almost every big city in the US and Canada for years and never once had to fill out expense sheets.
What really kills me are call centers - I hate them with a passion that surprises even me. Whoever came up with that should burn in hell for eternity.
I had this happen to me once and all it took to clear was to hold down both buttons to do a Hard Reset and when it came backup it charged again.
Have you tried that? Hard Resetting doesn't factory reset the watch it just powers it down and reboots it.