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Yes, I know it's been brought up quite a bit...
This is really bugging me. I had the original Kindle Fire and put ICS on it and loved it. The Honeycomb-style user interface rocks. I bought a Nexus 7 thinking that I'd be able to put it into that mode with KitKat (the point of owning the Nexus # is to have the latest and greatest, right?), but have found myself unable to do so.
Is there any way possible to enable this on 4.4? I'm running into a gap on this discussion; most stopped talking about it about a month ago it seems. AOKP? Do I have to copy and paste the tablet UI code from 4.2 into 4.4?
This is Android. ANYTHING is possible. I know it has the potential to be done.
watsonism said:
Yes, I know it's been brought up quite a bit...
This is really bugging me. I had the original Kindle Fire and put ICS on it and loved it. The Honeycomb-style user interface rocks. I bought a Nexus 7 thinking that I'd be able to put it into that mode with KitKat (the point of owning the Nexus # is to have the latest and greatest, right?), but have found myself unable to do so.
Is there any way possible to enable this on 4.4? I'm running into a gap on this discussion; most stopped talking about it about a month ago it seems. AOKP? Do I have to copy and paste the tablet UI code from 4.2 into 4.4?
This is Android. ANYTHING is possible. I know it has the potential to be done.
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I was under the impression that google removed the tablet UI from kitkat altogether.
I thought I wasn't going to like the phablet UI but I got used to it, and now it just makes sense to me on a tablet this size. I say give it a chance, you might grow to like it.
I hate it, i'm forever catching the navbar when typing in landscape or passing the device to a friend because of thin bezel, it'd better located on it's side in the same portrait position next to the shortcuts & apps drawer button.
Q8-V08 said:
I hate it, i'm forever catching the navbar when typing in landscape or passing the device to a friend because of thin bezel, it'd better located on it's side in the same portrait position next to the shortcuts & apps drawer button.
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I do agree with this. When in landscape it is in the most inconvenient place possible. I would love a way to force it to remain on the right side but I haven't been able to find a solution other than setting the whole tablet into phone UI mode which then messes with the notifications shade.
If you're only problem is the nav bar, try GMD auto hide soft keys. It works great.
purple lady said:
If you're only problem is the nav bar, try GMD auto hide soft keys. It works great.
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I tried that, not really what I'm looking for. I don't want something that overlays the navbar and hides it when not in use, I want a permanent navbar that just stays on the right side of the screen. With GMD even if I turn auto hide off, it will still hide it when I rotate the screen, and when I swipe to bring it up it always covers part of my dock icons.
Have you tried gravity box xposed module? It gives you the ability to run pie. Or if that's not your thing in navigation bar tweaks it has an always on the bottom feature. It shouldn't be too difficult to make it always on the "short side".Why not ask the Developer in his thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
doop said:
Have you tried gravity box xposed module? It gives you the ability to run pie. Or if that's not your thing in navigation bar tweaks it has an always on the bottom feature. It shouldn't be too difficult to make it always on the "short side".Why not ask the Developer in his thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
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I've used the pie before on my gnex and it was OK. I might give it a shot. Android is starting to feel quite dumbed down lately...
doop said:
Have you tried gravity box xposed module? It gives you the ability to run pie. Or if that's not your thing in navigation bar tweaks it has an always on the bottom feature. It shouldn't be too difficult to make it always on the "short side".Why not ask the Developer in his thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
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Yep, I use GB on all my devices. I use PIE + expanded desktop when I want to game in full screen. The always on bottom tweak isn't what I'm looking for either. I want it to remain on the right in landscape. I appreciate the input though.
_MetalHead_ said:
Yep, I use GB on all my devices. I use PIE + expanded desktop when I want to game in full screen. The always on bottom tweak isn't what I'm looking for either. I want it to remain on the right in landscape. I appreciate the input though.
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No probs. The part about keeping the navigation on the "short side". I meant on the right (Short Side). It`s worth asking the developer surely
CM10+ and PA had the tablet UI I though and you could pit it on the right hand side. I'm not sure if this applies with the newest KitKat builds though.
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Just bought this Nexus 7 2013 from a friend for my 3 year old son. He had a Kindle 1st gen before it, and loved it. This is, the rom I had on the kindle had a permanent nav bar on the bottom that he was used to for switching in between apps. He's not going to understand having to hit a toggle or swipe down or up or whatever to make the nav bar re-appear. Most apps are fine, but the ones that do take up the whole screen, he will be stuck on. I bought this tablet from a friend, and it's got PA 4.6 Beta already on it. So I don't know if reflashing to stock will fix this for me or not. Any ideas?
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Just bought this Nexus 7 2013 from a friend for my 3 year old son. He had a Kindle 1st gen before it, and loved it. This is, the rom I had on the kindle had a permanent nav bar on the bottom that he was used to for switching in between apps. He's not going to understand having to hit a toggle or swipe down or up or whatever to make the nav bar re-appear. Most apps are fine, but the ones that do take up the whole screen, he will be stuck on. I bought this tablet from a friend, and it's got PA 4.6 Beta already on it. So I don't know if reflashing to stock will fix this for me or not. Any ideas?
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I think you are experiencing the new "Immersive Mode" Of KitKat. If You are on PA, you could enable the PIE controls.
I don't know how to completely disable it, but if you are willing to downgrade form Kitkat to a lower version ROM(JellyBean), It will be removed.
I Think The Stock Rom that came with the N7 was 4.3, so Yes, Reflashing Stock would disable the Immersive Mode.
Hi to all!
I'm experiencing a really strange thing when try to set an HOME gesture with some of most famous apps for that purpose, like ALL IN ONE GESTURES, EDGE GESTURES and similar.
If I set recent apps and back gesture, they work in every way I set them...but if I try to set ANY KIND of gesture for returning to home... nothing happens.
The command work properly (I feel the haptic vibration, or alinz, that starts when a command is performed), but the gesture won't work in the end...
Anyone noticed that too? Maybe there's something I missed for make them work?
I use swipe up from bottom border and it works for me. I use aio.
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I didn't find the cause yet but it is also happening to me. If I reboot the phone the home gesture starts to work fine, it only breaks if I re-enabled the nav bar + disable immersive mode using their quick tiles provided by joneplustools and systemuituner. The easiest solution is to reboot the phone.
Well but are you rooted?
Because I can disable navbar but on home screen it'll be always there, so I can't use bottom gestures, only edge...
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Well but are you rooted?
Because I can disable navbar but on home screen it'll be always there, so I can't use bottom gestures, only edge...
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Right now I'm rooted, yes.
Without root the navbar always shows if you swipe from the bottom. You could try a 0px navbar by I think it doesn't work in OOS at the moment.
hardspartan360 said:
Right now I'm rooted, yes.
Without root the navbar always shows if you swipe from the bottom. You could try a 0px navbar by I think it doesn't work in OOS at the moment.
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I already have the 0pt navbar and used successfully on S8 but with OnePlus it just don't works, I suppose because the navbar is named "drawable" in OnePlus internals while in APK it's "navbar", at least I've read it on multiple sources...
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I already have the 0pt navbar and used successfully on S8 but with OnePlus it just don't works, I suppose because the navbar is named "drawable" in OnePlus internals while in APK it's "navbar", at least I've read it on multiple sources...
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Yeah that must be the reason.
If you don't want to root right now your solution is to use a gesture app like edge gestures or swipe navigation because you can use gestures from the right/left edge so you activate the navbar less often.
It's not ideal but is has one advantage; for example when I want to close a game using the back button, the gesture sometimes is not recognized and I have to activate the navbar using the quick setting and that sometimes breaks the home gesture like we discussed yesterday so I have to reboot the phone sometimes. You only have to swipe from the bottom and it's all fine.
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Yeah that must be the reason.
If you don't want to root right now your solution is to use a gesture app like edge gestures or swipe navigation because you can use gestures from the right/left edge so you activate the navbar less often.
It's not ideal but is has one advantage; for example when I want to close a game using the back button, the gesture sometimes is not recognized and I have to activate the navbar using the quick setting and that sometimes breaks the home gesture like we discussed yesterday so I have to reboot the phone sometimes. You only have to swipe from the bottom and it's all fine.
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Yeah...but the fact that navbar is permanent in home screen no matter if you choose to hide it or not is really disappointing...
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I already have the 0pt navbar and used successfully on S8 but with OnePlus it just don't works, I suppose because the navbar is named "drawable" in OnePlus internals while in APK it's "navbar", at least I've read it on multiple sources...
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According to my experience this kind of problem is most likely caused by a third party app, possibly an xposed module or some half baked apk. Privately exchange a list of your installed apps, compare and concentrate on the more dubious apps you have in common and you may find your culprit there.
frozl said:
According to my experience this kind of problem is most likely caused by a third party app, possibly an xposed module or some half baked apk. Privately exchange a list of your installed apps, compare and concentrate on the more dubious apps you have in common and you may find your culprit there.
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Well I don't have any X module since I'm not rooted, apps installed I don't know but I doubt it because are the same apps that was in S8 before, so I don't think that an app can interfere with the 0pt navbar functions...
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Yeah...but the fact that navbar is permanent in home screen no matter if you choose to hide it or not is really disappointing...
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Yeah that's the main gripe. I suppose you are concerned about burn-in.
I don't know if stock OOS Oreo will fix that. Maybe some Dev can mod the navbar file as I was done with the old filetype as in the Galaxy S8.
I also can tell you that on LiquidRemix 8.0 ( it's on a Telegram group as is in testing stage ) you could hide the navbar completely without root but I understand that you don't want to change the rom and right now is has bugs so is better to stay in Oxygen.
Right now I'm using stock OOS 4.7.4 with root and to update is super easy, just download and flash the full zip, flash your kernel + magisk/superSu after and it's done.
I don't know if you care about Android Pay...
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frozl said:
According to my experience this kind of problem is most likely caused by a third party app, possibly an xposed module or some half baked apk. Privately exchange a list of your installed apps, compare and concentrate on the more dubious apps you have in common and you may find your culprit there.
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I can tell you that on a fresh installed OOS 4.7.4 without third party apps it doesn't work. The problem is that on Oxygen the navbar has another name in system so that mod doesn't work.
No I don't care about it because there's no need for it now, at least for me.
I've always rooted phones, no problems with that, it's just that I don't feel the need to do it with 5T since is nearly stock and good to run stock "as is"...
Hi to all!
Just wanted to know if there's a possibility to get this APK work on out 5T too...on S8 it worked like a charm and easily bring the chance to navigate the phone without navigation soft keys, along with a swipe navigation app from Play Store (All In One Gestures for example).
This apk reduce the height of the navbar to 0, pratically will "delete" the navbar permanently (after a reboot), and the stock state could be reversed with simply uninstall this app.
But I noticed that this will not work on 5T: installed, reboot but navbar it's still there...
So, the question is: anyone knows how to get this to work with 5T too?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4188536&d=1497996764
Looking for the same thing but one that shrinks the navbar like -18DPI or smaller. None of the available mods or substratum themes seem to work for Oreo regarding the navbar.
Ah, I'm on NOUGAT, hasn't switched to Oreo yet, waiting official OTA.
But I think that this, once "fixed", should work on Oreo and Nougat too...
At least...I hope...
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Ah, I'm on NOUGAT, hasn't switched to Oreo yet, waiting official OTA.
But I think that this, once "fixed", should work on Oreo and Nougat too...
At least...I hope...
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On nougat there's a couple different ways. If your rooted there's a magisk module. If not you should be able to use Andromeda and use the substratum navbar height plug in.
Only thing regarding changing the height to -o is that it sometimes breaks your power button. So if you hold it it instantly reboots your phone.
There's a thread on how to get around that if your are rooted using Xposed temporarily to achieve hiding the navbar.
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On nougat there's a couple different ways. If your rooted there's a magisk module. If not you should be able to use Andromeda and use the substratum navbar height plug in.
Only thing regarding changing the height to -o is that it sometimes breaks your power button. So if you hold it it instantly reboots your phone.
There's a thread on how to get around that if your are rooted using Xposed temporarily to achieve hiding the navbar.
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I'm not rooted, but that "Andromeda" thing? It's a Substratum module?
what does this apk do to the phone?
i know you wrote it will adjust the height to 0px
but whats the benefit out of it?
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what does this apk do to the phone?
i know you wrote it will adjust the height to 0px
but whats the benefit out of it?
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The benefit is to be able to use FULL display without on screen buttons, prevent burn-in because of softkeys...and let be able to navigate the phone with gestures with apps like All in one gestures or swipe navigation.
:good:
Best solution atm is to root your device and use jOnePlus Tools app. No need for Xposed at all, as jOnePlus Tools adds a qs tile to show/hide the navigation bar.
The best solution is that I think, found in another thread posted by @janres155 , that can be done with ADB without root, xposed or Substratum...only a single command in ADB shell will do the trick:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/guide-rid-navbar-drawbacks-xposed-t3712135/page7
I know that there are plenty of "swipe gesture navigation" type of apps out there.
Some of the most prominent being XDA's Navigation Gestures, OnePlus Gestures, Sideswipe, etc.
However, I was pointed towards this one (unreleased, in the App Store): "Fluid N.G." https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.fluid
I have nothing to do with creating this and am not trying to get any credit or anything; I just wanted to bring it to everyone's attention because it is the most fluid navigation system I have seen with a 3rd party app. I believe one of the OEM's implementation is a lot like this, but I forget which.
It's simple and might not be as powerful as others, but I really like it!
I'm using this too! Great app!
how do we hide the navigation bar?
Wow nice find, finally one I like
Doesn't exist?
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Doesn't exist?
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Thats weird - try this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.fluid
masri1987 said:
how do we hide the navigation bar?
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It's an option in this app, must hook up to PC and do the ADB command to grant secure settings
Appears to be essentially the same thing as OnePlus gestures which have a few more options and significantly more customization. However that may be it's a good find, thanks.
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Appears to be essentially the same thing as OnePlus gestures which have a few more options and significantly more customization. However that may be it's a good find, thanks.
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Yeah, it doesn't really offer more features than other stuff - however you have to actually use it to understand whats impressive. It's just... really "fluid" (hence the name, I suppose) and feels like a real phone feature instead of a hack.
Regardless, I have no vested interest in it - just wanted more people to know about it so the dev gets credit and/or money and can support it
I'm not invested in either myself. The OnePlus gestures feels just like the real OnePlus gestures, not a hack. I do think I get what you mean by hack because I've used several gestures schemes from exposed and so on and never real found one that was factory in feel. I figured that was why the OnePlus gestures didn't suck, it appears that they straight up kanged the real OnePlus gestures because the experience is indistinguishable. However it may be as long as folks get the joy of getting away from the horrid stock gestures it's all good.
masri1987 said:
how do we hide the navigation bar?
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If you are rooted then after activating your replacement navigation app, just add this to /system/build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
and reboot. The stock nav bar will be totally gone.
So i was trying the xda gestures app and it was meh, but the app in the OP is pretty smooth and simple, straight to the point.
hate the idea that i have to install a 3rd party app to do what my OP6 was doing out of box :\
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If you are rooted then after activating your replacement navigation app, just add this to /system/build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
and reboot. The stock nav bar will be totally gone.
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So here's a interesting situation , using the app in the OP and hiding the navbar from the app, still produces a blindingly white navbar during phone calls. if i edit the build.prop as you suggest would it remove that completely?
masri1987 said:
So i was trying the xda gestures app and it was meh, but the app in the OP is pretty smooth and simple, straight to the point.
hate the idea that i have to install a 3rd party app to do what my OP6 was doing out of box :\
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Absolutely
I cant figure out how the stock gestures/recents/drawer passed muster. You know they were comparing their work to what everyone else did, Android, Apple, even the mod community where they get a lot of their "inspiration". I don't see any way I'm the executive making the go decision on the mess we were delivered. I do see myself having the person who put the idea on my desk escorted from the building by a couple big goons who were instructed to hit his head on every object between his or her office and the curb on the way out.
OnePlus Gestures app is the best
This is gold. I really enjoy the nav options and being able to hide the bar.
Coming from a OnePlus 6, I actually really like the solution in the OP of this thread better. It's more fluid than the stock gesture navigation on the OnePlus 6 and I love the little bubble that pops up when you perform swipe actions.
Great find OP! Thanks for sharing.
Also, for those having issues hiding the nav bar, make sure you have ADB properly setup on your PC and phone. Then plug your phone in your computer and use your preferred command prompt app to run the following command exactly as it is below:
adb shell pm grant com.fb.fluid android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
Or, if you're rooted, follow lollyjay's instructions in post #11:
lollyjay said:
If you are rooted then after activating your replacement navigation app, just add this to /system/build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
and reboot. The stock nav bar will be totally gone.
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NOTE: If you don't have ADB setup or don't know how, don't flood this thread with requests on how to do it. There are already plenty of instructions for you to reference to get this done. Here's a good one to follow:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-unlock-bootloader-root-magisk/
Pretty great find, I like that it not obtrusive so doesn't take away from the full screen experience
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lollyjay said:
If you are rooted then after activating your replacement navigation app, just add this to /system/build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
and reboot. The stock nav bar will be totally gone.
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by the way, i had to change the value back to 0 on that line that i added because my google board and any other app was extended beyond the bottom of the screen. Weird.
Anyone else?