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Quick controls instead of navigation bar? Just an idea...

Edit: Forget it, s2d2 just made me realize that the newer versions of LMT have integrated exactly the stuff I'm talking about here
First of all, I’m no developer and I don’t even know if this stuff is possible, I just wanted to share my thoughts about an alternative way to navigate through the OS without wasting too much space with the navigation bar.
I use roman’s awesome AOKP ROM at the moment, which has an option included to hide navigation bar. To access home/back/menu/recent, you have to use an app like LMT for example.
Although LMT works quite ok, I think it is not the ideal solution to replace navigation bar. Drawing symbols is not as intuitive as I imagined it to be and it looks kind of weird how the homescreen and many apps react while drawing the symbols.
So I thought about alternatives and I had the following idea:
Would it be possible to create something like the quick controls from the browser for system-wide use? Let's say you swipe up from the bottom of the screen and a set of buttons appears in a half circle like it does in the browser. Of course it should work system-wide and across all apps, just like LMT.
To make it available across all apps, it would be necessary to still reserve a "swipe space" on the bottom to differ between app input and navigation bar access. It could be smaller though since you don't need to show any information on it. Theoretically, a line with a width of one pixel should be enough since the swipe gesture would start outside the screen (which makes me think, maybe this line can be a battery bar at the same time )
I see some advantages in this kind of navigation:
- maximum screen real estate
- a swipe from the bottom would be quicker and more intuitive than drawing symbols (where you have to remember the shape and the starting point for every action)
- smaller chance to trigger navigation buttons accidentally (for example while writing with onscreen keyboard) since the navigation bar is hidden.
- doesn’t get in the way of other swipe actions like scrolling/turning pages/homescreen transition. I can’t think of any situation where you swipe from the bottom of the screen that would interfere with the Quick Navigation.
So developers, do you think something like this is possible? It would be an awesome solution to get the most out of the screen size and still have quick access to the navigation buttons and maybe even custom apps/actions.
If it's not possible or just plain stupid, what are the problems realizing something like this?

Lmt has pie wheel=half circle stuff in your terminology, already implemented...
Nearly two weeks late

s2d4 said:
Lmt has pie wheel=half circle stuff, no need to draw stuff
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Cool, didn't know that So probably my idea is unnecessary after all

qwer23 said:
Cool, didn't know that So probably my idea is unnecessary after all
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be happy
He's adding even more features to it too

s2d4 said:
be happy
He's adding even more features to it too
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I am! Just installed new version and it's awesome! It's pretty much what i wished for ^^

Persuade me with Ribbons and PIE

i thought i would ask what people really think of the PIE and RIBBONS features.
personally i find them quite useless and clunky whenever i WANTED to use them, but i am a simpleton who will do things the long way because it actually feels MORE convenient. i have my apps set up on my homescreen in neat named folders, i use the status bar when a notification comes through and the apps i use most are already in the Recent Apps menu.
i know i know i know, it's a customization thing. some people like them and others swear by them. yes they have their uses and functions but i already find it all too easy to do the same thing they offer right out of the gate without having to go to the settings menu and find the actual feature then configure how i want it to react and how big and where to put it and then getting used to where the triggers for them are so i dont keep opening them by accident while im doing something else and...
or i could just use the notification bar and the app drawer because im too lazy and it just feels more natural.
these are my thoughts. what uses have you found for PIE and Ribbons outside of what you can already do from the homescreen.
i don't want to argue and i do find these options neat, so please don't think im $h****ng on them! just want to find a reason to want or need to use them

If you don't use expanded desktop, then there's no need for pie. Simple.
a manta wrote this.

Man I love AOKP's ribbon feature. I can jump to any app anytime with a swipe. Of course you could always press home, tap your folder and launch an app but this is so convenient.
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bk201doesntexist said:
If you don't use expanded desktop, then there's no need for pie. Simple.
a manta wrote this.
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yea, another cool feature that i just havent found a proper reason to turn on for more than 5 minutes

keith.mcintyre26 said:
Man I love AOKP's ribbon feature. I can jump to any app anytime with a swipe. Of course you could always press home, tap your folder and launch an app but this is so convenient.
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like i said, actually having the feature is nice but no matter how much ive tried to "train" my thumbs right i just cant get the Ribbons to respond the way they should. its not a problem with my phone and its not that im afraid of change or anything, i just cant do it LOL.
Ribbons is like Swype to me. a good feature that is supposed to, and proven to, make a common task simpler and more fun to use. unfortunately for me, like with Ribbons, i just cant get around to using it at any point.

Ribbons have four quick access options. I use nav widgets app window screen off and torch. Apps on the left and quick toggles on the right.
Hated pie until it got the second layer. The extra screen real estate makes a difference. Hidden nav bar is actually useful now.
Only have one home screen and that only has zooper widget and status bar. All other widgets are hidden in the nav widget place.
Phone is inaccessible to most ppl, Ribbons and pie are a great way to really personalize your phone.
Persuaded yet?

namtombout said:
Ribbons have four quick access options. I use nav widgets app window screen off and torch. Apps on the left and quick toggles on the right.
Hated pie until it got the second layer. The extra screen real estate makes a difference. Hidden nav bar is actually useful now.
Only have one home screen and that only has zooper widget and status bar. All other widgets are hidden in the nav widget place.
Phone is inaccessible to most ppl, Ribbons and pie are a great way to really personalize your phone.
Persuaded yet?
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you know with the hidden navbar...i might actually. will have to give another crack at it and see if i can a way to make it work. like i said, it looks and IS really great and useful. but i havent been able to effectively get a use out of it that i dont already do out of habit.
and thats the biggest thing with me. its so habitual to just do things the old fashioned way

dragonhart6505 said:
you know with the hidden navbar...i might actually. will have to give another crack at it and see if i can a way to make it work. like i said, it looks and IS really great and useful. but i havent been able to effectively get a use out of it that i dont already do out of habit.
and thats the biggest thing with me. its so habitual to just do things the old fashioned way
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dont use ribbons but i do use PIE, steroid PIE though. i didnt really like pie until sourcery took it to another level with adding additional custom buttons and it seemed to get more responsive plus you can have multiple launch points enabled at the same time which i kind of like, one on the bottom and one on the right. i honestly jump back and forth between nav bar and pie. i have used PIE on PA and it worked well but i like it much better in the newer sourcery builds. and PIE does take some getting used to because it is such a different way of navigating

switched to using ParanoidAndroid for a while and with PIE set as my main nav bar location, sans the navbar and statusbar, it works wonders! really gives me a bit more room to play on. i have been persuaded there at least ^_^

[Q] [REQ] Navbar on the side in landscapemode

As mentioned in threatname i am looking for a navbarmod which sets the navbar on the right instead to the bottom when in landscape like on a phone. i don´t have got alienthumbs to get to middle of the screen to press the homebutton. would like to have it on the side if possible always on the buttom side of the tablet
i know this could be a disadvantage for gamers, but for 80% of the daily users this might be a senseful idea

L-ViZ said:
As mentioned in threatname i am looking for a navbarmod which sets the navbar on the right instead to the bottom when in landscape like on a phone. i don´t have got alienthumbs to get to middle of the screen to press the homebutton. would like to have it on the side if possible always on the buttom side of the tablet
i know this could be a disadvantage for gamers, but for 80% of the daily users this might be a senseful idea
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If you have rooted ur device, i recommend GoodMoodDroid's "Auto Hide Soft Keys", available thru PlayStore. It works on stock ROM. Besides hiding the nav bar, it has the nice effect of resizing it and putting it on the right hand when turning the device into landscape mode.
Regrettably i don't know another way, when u are not rooted.

of course i have my phone rooted xD but i´d like to get it out of the box without 3rd application on the side

still looking for a good solution.

hmm maybe if you use PA hybrid properties and change to stock/phone UI you'll get the nav bar at the right side.. not sure about that though

On Paranoid Android, if i set it to phone UI then the navbar is on the side. This does change some other things I didn't like about the UI but it might be what you want

Nav bar hide & Gesture Navigation app

I know that there are plenty of "swipe gesture navigation" type of apps out there.
Some of the most prominent being XDA's Navigation Gestures, OnePlus Gestures, Sideswipe, etc.
However, I was pointed towards this one (unreleased, in the App Store): "Fluid N.G." https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.fluid
I have nothing to do with creating this and am not trying to get any credit or anything; I just wanted to bring it to everyone's attention because it is the most fluid navigation system I have seen with a 3rd party app. I believe one of the OEM's implementation is a lot like this, but I forget which.
It's simple and might not be as powerful as others, but I really like it!

I'm using this too! Great app!

how do we hide the navigation bar?

Wow nice find, finally one I like

Doesn't exist?
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superchilpil said:
Doesn't exist?
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Thats weird - try this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.fluid

masri1987 said:
how do we hide the navigation bar?
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It's an option in this app, must hook up to PC and do the ADB command to grant secure settings

Appears to be essentially the same thing as OnePlus gestures which have a few more options and significantly more customization. However that may be it's a good find, thanks.

krabman said:
Appears to be essentially the same thing as OnePlus gestures which have a few more options and significantly more customization. However that may be it's a good find, thanks.
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Yeah, it doesn't really offer more features than other stuff - however you have to actually use it to understand whats impressive. It's just... really "fluid" (hence the name, I suppose) and feels like a real phone feature instead of a hack.
Regardless, I have no vested interest in it - just wanted more people to know about it so the dev gets credit and/or money and can support it

I'm not invested in either myself. The OnePlus gestures feels just like the real OnePlus gestures, not a hack. I do think I get what you mean by hack because I've used several gestures schemes from exposed and so on and never real found one that was factory in feel. I figured that was why the OnePlus gestures didn't suck, it appears that they straight up kanged the real OnePlus gestures because the experience is indistinguishable. However it may be as long as folks get the joy of getting away from the horrid stock gestures it's all good.

masri1987 said:
how do we hide the navigation bar?
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If you are rooted then after activating your replacement navigation app, just add this to /system/build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
and reboot. The stock nav bar will be totally gone.

So i was trying the xda gestures app and it was meh, but the app in the OP is pretty smooth and simple, straight to the point.
hate the idea that i have to install a 3rd party app to do what my OP6 was doing out of box :\

lollyjay said:
If you are rooted then after activating your replacement navigation app, just add this to /system/build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
and reboot. The stock nav bar will be totally gone.
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So here's a interesting situation , using the app in the OP and hiding the navbar from the app, still produces a blindingly white navbar during phone calls. if i edit the build.prop as you suggest would it remove that completely?

masri1987 said:
So i was trying the xda gestures app and it was meh, but the app in the OP is pretty smooth and simple, straight to the point.
hate the idea that i have to install a 3rd party app to do what my OP6 was doing out of box :\
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Absolutely

I cant figure out how the stock gestures/recents/drawer passed muster. You know they were comparing their work to what everyone else did, Android, Apple, even the mod community where they get a lot of their "inspiration". I don't see any way I'm the executive making the go decision on the mess we were delivered. I do see myself having the person who put the idea on my desk escorted from the building by a couple big goons who were instructed to hit his head on every object between his or her office and the curb on the way out.

OnePlus Gestures app is the best

This is gold. I really enjoy the nav options and being able to hide the bar.

Coming from a OnePlus 6, I actually really like the solution in the OP of this thread better. It's more fluid than the stock gesture navigation on the OnePlus 6 and I love the little bubble that pops up when you perform swipe actions.
Great find OP! Thanks for sharing.
Also, for those having issues hiding the nav bar, make sure you have ADB properly setup on your PC and phone. Then plug your phone in your computer and use your preferred command prompt app to run the following command exactly as it is below:
adb shell pm grant com.fb.fluid android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
Or, if you're rooted, follow lollyjay's instructions in post #11:
lollyjay said:
If you are rooted then after activating your replacement navigation app, just add this to /system/build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
and reboot. The stock nav bar will be totally gone.
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NOTE: If you don't have ADB setup or don't know how, don't flood this thread with requests on how to do it. There are already plenty of instructions for you to reference to get this done. Here's a good one to follow:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-unlock-bootloader-root-magisk/

Pretty great find, I like that it not obtrusive so doesn't take away from the full screen experience
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lollyjay said:
If you are rooted then after activating your replacement navigation app, just add this to /system/build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
and reboot. The stock nav bar will be totally gone.
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by the way, i had to change the value back to 0 on that line that i added because my google board and any other app was extended beyond the bottom of the screen. Weird.
Anyone else?

Question Put accessibility button back in the bottom button bar

I'm going through eye surgery and one of the things that I use quite a bit is the accessibility magnification.
In the latest versions of Android OS, there's some kind of floating thing that sticks to the sides of the screen and is almost constantly in the way of something I need to tab or whatever.
Loved it so much better when I had access to the button down at the bottom. I could just click it when I needed it.
So is there any way to put that back? I honestly did try to search but I don't think I'm using the correct search terms so I never found anything useful.

kylebellamy said:
I'm going through eye surgery and one of the things that I use quite a bit is the accessibility magnification.
In the latest versions of Android OS, there's some kind of floating thing that sticks to the sides of the screen and is almost constantly in the way of something I need to tab or whatever.
Loved it so much better when I had access to the button down at the bottom. I could just click it when I needed it.
So is there any way to put that back? I honestly did try to search but I don't think I'm using the correct search terms so I never found anything useful.
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that shortcut is moveable but you are right, it can get in the way and is annoying.
Are you using 3 button navigation? In the accessability options under Acessability Shortcut, it says you need to use 3 button nav for it appear in the navigation bar.

Alekos said:
that shortcut is moveable but you are right, it can get in the way and is annoying.
Are you using 3 button navigation? In the accessability options under Acessability Shortcut, it says you need to use 3 button nav for it appear in the navigation bar.
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Huh. I have a three button navigation running. I'll have to look at the settings and see what I'm missing. I don't suppose it makes any difference that this is a pixel 6 pro running the latest?

kylebellamy said:
Huh. I have a three button navigation running. I'll have to look at the settings and see what I'm missing. I don't suppose it makes any difference that this is a pixel 6 pro running the latest?
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Yeah, I just checked the settings and it is definitely on and there is no indication or slider or anything that says to add it to the navigation bar.

First of all, I don't run the factory system image, I run GrapheneOS, which is a security minded distribution of google-free AOSP.
Looks like the option you're looking for is at the bottom of the accessibility menu, "Accessibility shortcuts". Go in there and select "Accessibility button", then "Location", and select "Navigation bar". That would do it for you, at least on Graphene. Hope it helps.

Oh you rock!!
What an odd place to put that choice. It's buired where I wouldn't think to look for it.