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Replacement wall charger with TurboPower

https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus notes Charging - Micro-USB - 15W TurboPower charge
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-g5-plus/ offers the Ventev Wallport rq2300 Wall Charger for $30 (no proof of TurboPower)
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/turbo-power-15-wall-charger is $35
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SPN5864B-TurboPower-Original-Charging/dp/B01H1C9T6K - Motorola SPN5864B TurboPower 15 Wall Charger with Original Data/Charging Cable
- $17.71 ---not 100% certain this will work with TurboPower
Has any purchased a wall charger that works with TurboPower?

Turbopower is Qualcomm's QC 3.0...
Any adapter that supports it will work fine...
Anker is my go to brand for everything charging..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016LO4UT...ds=iPhone+6+Charger&qid=1497436329&kwr_id=668

Karlinski said:
Turbopower is Qualcomm's QC 3.0...
Any adapter that supports it will work fine...
Anker is my go to brand for everything charging..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016LO4UT...ds=iPhone+6+Charger&qid=1497436329&kwr_id=668
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Thanks for the Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 information. :good:
Do you have the Anker 18W USB Wall Charger https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016LO4UTA/ in hand? I am trying to get hands-on validation vs theory.
I rather not spend $25 https://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx3AP6362WYWF2K/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza?asin=B071HYYB4P "Another 15W QC3.0 certified charger could supply TurboPower to the Moto G5 Plus We don't want to definitively state there is not an equivalent charger to this one for the G5 Plus, but there should not be a superior alternative as this charger was specifically developed for the G5 Plus."

mattybaby said:
Thanks for the Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 information. :good:
Do you have the Anker 18W USB Wall Charger
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I use that same anker charger and it works the same as the original turbopower.
Also, any good micro-usb cable will work also. Some old cables may or may not work.

Karlinski said:
Turbopower is Qualcomm's QC 3.0...
Any adapter that supports it will work fine...
Anker is my go to brand for everything charging..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016LO4UT...ds=iPhone+6+Charger&qid=1497436329&kwr_id=668
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actually for the g5 and g5 plus it is only QC 2.0 but QC is backwards compatible and 3.0 will also work

ckret said:
actually for the g5 and g5 plus it is only QC 2.0 but QC is backwards compatible and 3.0 will also work
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That is correct. My mistake.
The point I was trying to make is that turbopower is not something specific to Motorola, just an industry standard in disguise.

ckret said:
actually for the g5 and g5 plus it is only QC 2.0 but QC is backwards compatible and 3.0 will also work
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Does anyone have a Quick Charge 2.0 wall charger in hand to confirm it charges with TurboPower? If yes, what is the model #?
I rather spend less money on a Quick Charge 2.0 wall charger than a 3.0 since the use case is to charge at the office. Ex. $10 for the SPN5864B

mattybaby said:
Does anyone have a Quick Charge 2.0 wall charger in hand to confirm it charges with TurboPower? If yes, what is the model #?
I rather spend less money on a Quick Charge 2.0 wall charger than a 3.0 since the use case is to charge at the office. Ex. $10 for the SPN5864B
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as i once wrote here https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554
this charger http://www.gearbest.com/iphone-cables-adapters/pp_322054.html does turbocharge the g5 plus without issues

I have multiple QC2 and 3 chargers around the house, and they all work fine
they always will because TurboCharge is just rebranded QuickCharge

SPN5864A = success!
I purchased a SPN5864A Wall Charger with a SKN6461A usb cable for $7.49 USD on ebay - LINK
"Motorola DROID Turbo 1.6 Amp Rapid Home Wall Charger SPN5864A - Super Fast Rapid Charging Charger - 15W of power - 1.6 Amp charger. Will charge Motorola devices with Adaptive TURBO Charging technology built in at an even faster rate! "
While the lock screen did not show the words fastcharge or turbocharge; AccuBattery did show the night and day difference. Screen caps of the old 463 millamps (mA) vs new SPN5864A charger 1989 mA pasted below.

Guess I'll go with the SPN5864B

Any Samsung charger for one of their last 3 or 4 flagships should work just fine. I literally have a bag of Samsung chargers from the S5 and S7 that all have the same ratings and work to Turbo charge the G5 Plus just fine. I use the Samsung charger at home and leave the Turbo Charger at the office.

I have a Asus Zenfone 2 18w charger (9v 2a, 5v 2a) and turbopower works perfectly when charging the G5 plus with it (got around 2400mah readings on Ampere app). Just in case anyone has one laying around, it's an option.

We use these around the house and for travel and they all work as you would expect.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01A42R46G
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01A4ZGLZ8
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charge-Charger-Samsung-Galaxy-Including-x/dp/B01E74QA30
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/bhr/Charge-Anker-Charger-PowerPort-Technology-Galaxy-iPhone/B017VXARME

I have a Tronsmart 5 port desk charger and a one port mini car charger, both with QC 2.0, both charge stupidly fast, both are awesome (just now, like half an hour ago, I plugged in my phone. at 14%, been watching YouTube all the time at full brightness, 60% charge).
I can add links to the chargers if someone wants, I'm just too lazy to do it right now.

The Samsung adaptive fast charging brick works for me

Huawei FCP Adapter - Huawei own variation of QC 2.0 also Turbo Charge G5 Plus.
Just ordered Xiaomi 10000 Power Bank 2 link --> https://www.gearbest.com/power-banks/pp_492337.html?vip=4087096 <-- and Turbo Charge works fine as well.

I bought a genuine SPN5864A on eBay for 7$. It has performed as intended since I received it.

USB PD vs. QC 3.0 (QC4.)?

I just purchased an LG G7 ThinQ on Verizon in the US, coming from an LG Optimus G Pro, purchased in 2013. It's being shipped right now, so I don't have it to play with.
With that said, I'm a newbie to quick charging. I see that the phone comes with a QC 3.0 block, and that the phone is listed as being QC 4.0 compatible, as per Qualcomm's website.
I'm looking to order all new cables and chargers to take advantage of the higher charging speeds that this phone can allow. I'm not understanding though whether I'd be better off buying a car charger that is QC 3.0 or has USB PD. I realize that the USB PD would be the way to go for laptops and larger items, but for our phone, is there any difference? I do realize that I'd need a dual-ended USB C cable for the PD charger.
Also, has anyone tried using a QC 4.0 charger on the phone, and although Qualcomm says the phone has the 4.0 hardware, has LG enabled us to use it?

So the LG chargers can deliver 9v 1.8A.
The phone will recognize my 18w and other 45w PD charger, but I haven't managed to see any difference in the charging speeds, and more annoying, charging is pretty slow when screen is on.
I wanna buy a USB meter (PD compatible) to see what's the phone actually asking for, but I assume that it just sits at 15w max.
The reason I have a PD charger is because it allows you to have longer USB-C cables and it's compatible across more devices, like I can fast charger my Huawei Mate 10 pro with it, you can also charge iPhones with it.

andygold said:
I just purchased an LG G7 ThinQ on Verizon in the US, coming from an LG Optimus G Pro, purchased in 2013. It's being shipped right now, so I don't have it to play with.
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This thread could be useful for you too: https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3787343&share_fid=3793&share_type=t

USB PD is an entirely different language than QC 2-4. They negotiate and handle power different from each other. If you plug USB PD into a QC device it should default to 5v, 1 or 2 amp standard charging.
Use only QC 3.0+ equipment. That will get you the rapid charge you're looking for as it speaks the right language for the phone. I dont believe LG has enabled QC4 standards in the firmware although the chip supports it.
LG G7 is also wireless rapid charge, i get an almost QC speed on a 15w ravpower and umdigi wireless pads. Took me a few to find ones that were quality and charged fast. Most of the "10w" chargers dont actually put out 10w so they dont charge fast.
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datafoo said:
USB PD is an entirely different language than QC 2-4. They negotiate and handle power different from each other. If you plug USB PD into a QC device it should default to 5v, 1 or 2 amp standard charging.
Use only QC 3.0+ equipment. That will get you the rapid charge you're looking for as it speaks the right language for the phone. I dont believe LG has enabled QC4 standards in the firmware although the chip supports it.
LG G7 is also wireless rapid charge, i get an almost QC speed on a 15w ravpower and umdigi wireless pads. Took me a few to find ones that were quality and charged fast. Most of the "10w" chargers dont actually put out 10w so they dont charge fast.
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QC 4.0 is actually compatible with Power Delivery, Qualcomm did that in fear that Google would make PD mandatory.
And there can be handshaking between previous QC devices and PD chargers, since the most basic profiles are kind of standard (max 9v 2A).
So in this way I can fast charge a S8, the LG G7 and any other QC device with the PD charger and I can charge other PD and QC devices with my Huawei fast charger power bank (it's based on QC 3 delivering max 9V 2A).

Luinwethion said:
QC 4.0 is actually compatible with Power Delivery, Qualcomm did that in fear that Google would make PD mandatory.
And there can be handshaking between previous QC devices and PD chargers, since the most basic profiles are kind of standard (max 9v 2A).
So in this way I can fast charge a S8, the LG G7 and any other QC device with the PD charger and I can charge other PD and QC devices with my Huawei fast charger power bank (it's based on QC 3 delivering max 9V 2A).
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Funny i was just reading an article about that. I suspect that would be a firmware compatibility issue again, as in: did LG enable it.
Great feedback and perfect timing
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datafoo said:
Funny i was just reading an article about that. I suspect that would be a firmware compatibility issue again, as in: did LG enable it.
Great feedback and perfect timing
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I just wished that phones would support higher charging rates via the PD standard.
I'm mostly sure that neither the S8 nor the G7 are taking full advantage of the max power output of their charger for long.
I thought that the charger might be under delivering, but connecting my PD 18w charger results in the same situation, I still need to measure it (need to buy a USB meter to have more details).
But using the same 18w PD charger I can charge the Mate from 20 to 50% much faster than I can charge the G7.

OP here. Just found this:
https://gtrusted.com/how-fast-the-p...s-battery-using-usb-power-delivery-30-and-pps
https://gtrusted.com/review/how-muc...rger-and-lg-g7-thinq-using-usb-power-delivery
https://gtrusted.com/review/lg-g7-thinq

Question about 45w charging

I have the Huawei MateBook X Pro and it comes with an intelligent 65w charger.
It fast charges my S10+ and if I'm reading it correctly I believe it will charge the Note 10+ at 45w.
Can somebody take a look at the screenshot of the specs of the charger and tell me what they think.

Considering they both use PD, I'd be surprised if it didn't work appropriately.

Would you say this one would be compatible too?
https://www.amazon.com/Crave-PowerH...65734125&s=gateway&smid=A22FR1QUP6EAFM&sr=8-5

Gotta support PPS
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/13/galaxy-note10-plus-45w-charging/
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fatboypup said:
Gotta support PPS
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/13/galaxy-note10-plus-45w-charging/
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This one appears to be up to spec ... I'm going to roll the dice and try it
USB Type-C PD Charger Power Delivery 65W Portable Wall Charger Adapter for MacBook Pro, Nintendo Switch,Google Pixel, Moto Z Samsung Mate Book and More (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHCXW7P/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_bN1uDb1C79FH0

bp328i said:
I have the Huawei MateBook X Pro and it comes with an intelligent 65w charger.
It fast charges my S10+ and if I'm reading it correctly I believe it will charge the Note 10+ at 45w.
Can somebody take a look at the screenshot of the specs of the charger and tell me what they think.
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If you want FULL speed while charging (aka 30 mins from 0% to 100%) be sure it's a PD 3.0 charger.
Previous versions are OK, but they won't charge that fast.

PPS is needed for note 10+ 45W
To support the note 10+ 45W charging, the PPS feature is needed. But the 60W charger seems that not has this feature.

Crap, I was hoping my Huawei Mate 20 Pro's 40W charger will work in its full efficiency when used for the Note10+. Now I'm having doubts. Guess I'll just have to buy the $20 Xiaomi 45W PD 2.0 charger.
Edit: Seems like the Mate 20 Pro's 40W charger might indeed work since the forums linked from a few posts above mentions that the Note10+ will be using a specialized power setup (10V, 4.5A) and not the standard (15V, 3A) one. Since the Mate 20 Pro's charger is giving an output of 10V, 4A, I might be able to use the charger's full potential.
Hey, it's not 45W tho, but 40W charger is enough for me if it means I don't need to spend a few extra bucks.

I just did this today... with the 25W charger in the box - will do the same for the 45W charger (on order) when it arrives - which should put most of the questions in this thread to bed...View attachment 4810040
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It must support specific stepping in the PPS range.
I purchased the 75w charger listed below which supports up to 46w PD and PPS:
USB-C Output: (PDO) 5V 3A, 9V 3A, 12V 3A, 15V 3A, 20V 2.3A; (PPS) 3V–21V 3A
I have compared with the included 25w charger and charging speeds are currently identical. I am not seeing an increase from the 25w charger. Now this may be because I read somewhere the 45w PPS Samsung uses is special and draws up to 5A? Can anyone confirm or deny this?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07HJWMYH5
Also both my aftermarket charger and the stock 25w seem to take about 80 minutes to charge 0%-100%

mikevipe said:
It must support specific stepping in the PPS range.
I purchased the 75w charger listed below which supports up to 46w PD and PPS:
USB-C Output: (PDO) 5V 3A, 9V 3A, 12V 3A, 15V 3A, 20V 2.3A; (PPS) 3V–21V 3A
I have compared with the included 25w charger and charging speeds are currently identical. I am not seeing an increase from the 25w charger. Now this may be because I read somewhere the 45w PPS Samsung uses is special and draws up to 5A? Can anyone confirm or deny this?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07HJWMYH5
Also both my aftermarket charger and the stock 25w seem to take about 80 minutes to charge 0%-100%
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80 Minutes for the 25W charger in the box - while your phone is turned off? Your cable is causing issues... See my chart above...
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I am using the cable which came with the 25w charger, not sure why I am getting ~15m longer charge times.

mikevipe said:
I am using the cable which came with the 25w charger, not sure why I am getting ~15m longer charge times.
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Phone off (mine was)?
Charger plugged into the wall or an extension cord (mine was in wall)?
Note 10 or 10+ (mine was 10+)
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Pixelbook 45w charger

Can I use this charger instead of buying the samsung 45w charger?
Specs:
Input: AC 100-240V, 50/60Hz
Output : 5V/9V/12V/15V 3A, 20V 2.25A 45W
Power
45W power output
USB Power Delivery 3.0

Just make Sure its a PD PPS Charger - ibgot one from Ba... (SPEED PPS) and works

Belze81 said:
Just make Sure its a PD PPS Charger - ibgot one from Ba... (SPEED PPS) and works
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Its PD but I can't find info on pps.
Thank you!

sprint410 said:
Can I use this charger instead of buying the samsung 45w charger?
Specs:
Input: AC 100-240V, 50/60Hz
Output : 5V/9V/12V/15V 3A, 20V 2.25A 45W
Power
45W power output
USB Power Delivery 3.0
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Here's the specs on my Huawei MateBook X Pro 65w intelligent charger.
I tried it on my Note 10+ and the 25w charger that came with the phone actually charges faster.

bp328i said:
Here's the specs on my Huawei MateBook X Pro 65w intelligent charger.
I tried it on my Note 10+ and the 25w charger that came with the phone actually charges faster.
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There was another post. If you read the specs on the samsung charger it's 4.5A/10V, so you need a 4.5A charger to even come close

gottahavit said:
There was another post. If you read the specs on the samsung charger it's 4.5A/10V, so you need a 4.5A charger to even come close
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Yeah I know, I was just letting the OP know my outcome with this charger.

Belze81 said:
Just make Sure its a PD PPS Charger - ibgot one from Ba... (SPEED PPS) and works
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What is a Ba... (SPEED PPS)? You said you bought one from there? lol What store is that?

phillthedrill said:
What is a Ba... (SPEED PPS)? You said you bought one from there? lol What store is that?
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Baseus 45W Speed PPS got them from aliexpress.

Accessories Compatible charger

Which chargers other than the original stock and the Spigen one will charge the Pixel 6 Pro at full 30w?
I see there are 30w from Anker and even Amazon Basic, would these charge at full speed?

You just need a PD 3.0 (or higher version) compatible charger that can do 30w or more. The rest matters not, it's an industrial standard.

cd993 said:
Which chargers other than the original stock and the Spigen one will charge the Pixel 6 Pro at full 30w?
I see there are 30w from Anker and even Amazon Basic, would these charge at full speed?
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Thanks for the clarification!

MAGIX Wall Charger PD Quick Charge 3.0 30W , USB Type-C, AC 100-240V to DC 5V 9V 12V 15V 20V (Qc 1.0 2.0 Compatible) (UK Plug)(White): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Shop MAGIX Wall Charger PD Quick Charge 3.0 30W , USB Type-C, AC 100-240V to DC 5V 9V 12V 15V 20V (Qc 1.0 2.0 Compatible) (UK Plug)(White). Free delivery and returns on eligible orders.
www.amazon.co.uk
Just bought this ready!

Guess I'll use my prior OnePlus Warp speed charger! LOL

Part of me wants to be fancy and get the pixel stand 2nd gen, but in all honesty I don't think I'm that fussed about having all the exclusive features like gallery showing pictures etc so to be fair I may just get a standard wireless charger, but even then I'm not that fussed charging it wirelessly, I think I just like the concept of standing it up lol

galaxys said:
Guess I'll use my prior OnePlus Warp speed charger! LOL
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Same here. I'll slap my new Pixel on there and see what happens.

galaxys said:
Guess I'll use my prior OnePlus Warp speed charger! LOL
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Will these chargers work at 30w on the Pixel? I have a ton of these at this point, including a car charger. Would be cool if they worked correctly at full speed.

I bought an extra (already got one) original 45W charger. I know it's overkill and a rip off, but whatever. At least it will charge just about anything USB Type-C, right?

This is like $7 with their instant coupon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09655FJDB?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

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Will these chargers work at 30w on the Pixel? I have a ton of these at this point, including a car charger. Would be cool if they worked correctly at full speed.
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Don't know yet, but hopefully we can test it out soon...

30W and 50W WARP wireless charging is only for OnePlus phones. The OnePlus 30W wireless charger does max. Qi charge at 10W, and the OnePlus 50W wireless charger does max. Qi charge at 15W.
The Pixel phones are locked at max. Qi charge of 12W with any wireless charger other than Google's wireless charger.
That's no where near the 23W capability from Google wireless charger.
See here: https://9to5google.com/2021/10/19/pixel-6-tidbits-plastic-top-wireless-charging/
Edit: I think I misread someone's question...my post was only directed towards wireless charging.

I believe Samsung chargers use the PD standard and should deliver a fast charge.

Any PD charger of at least 30W will give you the max charge speed. I doubt there will be a big difference using the 18W Pixel chargers from older phones. I'll be using a 10W wireless charging pad I got on Amazon a couple years ago that is connected to an 18W Pixel charger. It will charge overnight so how long it takes doesn't matter. I use this charger for my Pixelbook. It has 2 PD ports and a usb-a port. It will work for the new Pixels and does super fast charging for the new Samsung phones. A phone will only draw as much power as it is rated for so the 65W rating won't hurt your phone. It would charge 2 Pixel 6's at the same time at 30W.

xgerryx said:
Will these chargers work at 30w on the Pixel? I have a ton of these at this point, including a car charger. Would be cool if they worked correctly at full speed.
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I can't confirm, but I'm 99% sure they will not charge at 30w. OnePlus does 5V at 6A to get 30W. This is not a PD standard. At best you'll get 5V3A so 15W.

Morgrain said:
You just need a PD 3.0 (or higher version) compatible charger that can do 30w or more. The rest matters not, it's an industrial standard.
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I have this charger https://zendure.com/products/superport-s3 it's a dual PD 65W charger and it still charges my Pixel6P at a ridiculously slow pace. Even with adaptive charging off. It's also a USB 3.0 charger that charges all my other devices very fast except for my P6P so there has to be something more to it IMHO.
EDIT: According to this article https://www.androidauthority.com/best-google-pixel-6-chargers-3041818/ There are 3 standards required USB 3.0, PD and PPS mine doesn't appear to have the latter so maybe that's why.

It can't be any PD 3.0. It has to support PPS protocol. Most charges that don't explicitly state that they support are not good (for P6/P6P 30W charging). For example this anker one is PD3.0 PPS one.

Z0ld3n said:
It can't be any PD 3.0. It has to support PPS protocol. Most charges that don't explicitly state that they support are not good (for P6/P6P 30W charging). For example this anker one is PD3.0 PPS one.
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This is the right answer.
Make sure it supports PPS.
I got a GaN one with PPS support up to 65W for 30€ on Amazon.

It's nice the pixel 6 tells you whether your connection is a fast or slow charge. I picked up a $16 PD PPS charger at AMZN and the P6P shows it is fast charging. The AMZN listing showed it as iphone 13 series compatible but no mention of the Pixel 6 line.

TiltedAz said:
It's nice the pixel 6 tells you whether your connection is a fast or slow charge. I picked up a $16 PD PPS charger at AMZN and the P6P shows it is fast charging. The AMZN listing showed it as iphone 13 series compatible but no mention of the Pixel 6 line.
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Because to some people only Apple exists and marketing material MUST mention Apple. All other OEMs are an afterthought.
Luckily, all other OEMs also aren't Apple, hence they tend to prefer standards over proprietary crap, so 99% of the time you can assume that accessories will work anyway.