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I've been seeing sporadic posts in different threads about battery consumption in WM6.1 ROMS.
Well, it turns out that since starting to use WM6.1, I've noticed a dramatic decline in my battery life. I can maybe squeeze out a day of use with minimal use. If I use HSDPA / Voice / WiFi - forget it, I get 1-2 hours before the battery drops to nearly zero.
I used to get much better life out of my battery before.
I tried playing with different ROMs, then different Radio version - to no avail - battery life sucks.
Any tips / ideas / comparisons on how to get reasonable performance with WM6.1 or is this just my battery having issues?
I think this would be more your device...
To check this, go back to your manufacturers ROM, and see if the same still happens. Also try this test with no 3rd party applications installed.
Poor battery life is usually cause by either:
1) Applications using 100% CPU
2) Faulty ROM
3) Faulty Phone or Battery.
If you're tried multiple ROMs, I'd say you can rule out #2.
I get around 2 1/2 days out of the stock 1350mAh battery on my hermes.
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ygeller , i had some battery life problems with my hermes and i found on another thread some ppl saying to first flash the ATT rom RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship
and then the cooked one. That worked wonders for me, the radio version 1.54.07.00 is the best i tryed so far for battery life and network stability.
I'am using the latest PDAViet rom and no problems so far, with battery holding for 2 to 3 days with normal use.
ygeller said:
I've been seeing sporadic posts in different threads about battery consumption in WM6.1 ROMS.
Well, it turns out that since starting to use WM6.1, I've noticed a dramatic decline in my battery life. I can maybe squeeze out a day of use with minimal use. If I use HSDPA / Voice / WiFi - forget it, I get 1-2 hours before the battery drops to nearly zero.
I used to get much better life out of my battery before.
I tried playing with different ROMs, then different Radio version - to no avail - battery life sucks.
Any tips / ideas / comparisons on how to get reasonable performance with WM6.1 or is this just my battery having issues?
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Please try another radio, i used always the newest en I got the poorest battery performance! Now I use 1.47.30.10 in combination with PDAVIET roms and now my battery holds a day of 2/ 2,5!!
u are not alone
Hi ygeller,
me too have similar issues pls visit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392831 for details...
I have issues with charging too with my phone never charging full no matter how long i keep the charger on it get's stuck at 80%...
But good news is that I've arrested the drain now i flashed the PDAcorner pr0 V3 yesterday and through the entrire night the drain was less that 1% but it hasn't solved the drain if I use voice/data cause an 11 min call had my battery coming down from 63% to 16% ..
I guess i am gonna try and flash the stock ROM as compumad says..
I guess at least the charging issue is due to faulty ROM ( i hope)..
Thanks guys for input..
I agree that I get better battery life with the 1.47.30.0, in addition to aquiring a signal faster. The BIGGEST fix for me however was replacing my year old battery with a good quality Li-ion battery. Now I go a full day with hardly any drain using anybody's ROM, of course YMMV
I am having the same experience. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and they always drained the battery within 1 day. I am back on Schap's ROM now and I can work for up to 3 days with HSDPA and BT on. About 1 month ago I returned my Hermes because of a defect and HTC replaced the complete inner life of my phone. So this can be compared to a more or less new Hermes.
As a comparison, I recently received a Wizard as a gift and flashed it with the WM6.1 ROM of SNN and believe it or not, the battery lasts for amazing 5 days! And that is with GPRS and BT on!
So, are we talking a major device issue, a ROM issue or is there something I'm missing here?
froos said:
I am having the same experience. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and they always drained the battery within 1 day. I am back on Schap's ROM now and I can work for up to 3 days with HSDPA and BT on. About 1 month ago I returned my Hermes because of a defect and HTC replaced the complete inner life of my phone. So this can be compared to a more or less new Hermes.
As a comparison, I recently received a Wizard as a gift and flashed it with the WM6.1 ROM of SNN and believe it or not, the battery lasts for amazing 5 days! And that is with GPRS and BT on!
So, are we talking a major device issue, a ROM issue or is there something I'm missing here?
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I've been on the current Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] ROM for a while and indeed the battery drains very quick- I've had to schedule Exchange email to be on for 2 hours now but a simple 20-30 min voice call drains the battery by about 30-40%!
I was on Schap's ROM but was waiting for his latest update. Will have to consider another one.
I have also had the same issue as people here with the battery running down very quickly.I did try going back to schaps 4.31 but did not seems to make a difference anymore.Will try going nack to standard rom and then changed to cooked and post if there is any difference.
are u guys serious? 2.5days out of the stock battery?
my battery is a 1300mAH and i get a week and a bit on standby, constant txting wifi, screwing around, i get at least 4 days.
now that i have a 1650mAH i cant even kill it in a day (wifi bluetooth and gsm all going at the same time)
theres a 3000mAH battery coming in the mail, if im gentle with it it should last.... 0.5 months?
riyazhyder said:
Hi ygeller,
me too have similar issues pls visit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392831 for details...
I have issues with charging too with my phone never charging full no matter how long i keep the charger on it get's stuck at 80%...
But good news is that I've arrested the drain now i flashed the PDAcorner pr0 V3 yesterday and through the entrire night the drain was less that 1% but it hasn't solved the drain if I use voice/data cause an 11 min call had my battery coming down from 63% to 16% ..
I guess i am gonna try and flash the stock ROM as compumad says..
I guess at least the charging issue is due to faulty ROM ( i hope)..
Thanks guys for input..
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you need to resync your battery circuit, charge your phone till your phone cant charge it anymore, then drain it till you cant even turn it on (no lights at all), charge it up again and it should be reading correctly.
here is more info about Li-ion and Li-Poly charge circuits.
see subheading "Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion
I also had a severe battery drain with several 6.1 ROMS. My main culprit was caused my certain applications not closing properly and running at 50%-100% CPU. The main apps were Internet Explorer, Windows Live, Poutlook, basically network based apps. For some reason the app wouldn't show up as running. It wasn't until I got a new task manager that showed "processes" that I found the culprit. I would make sure all these processes were "killed" and my battery life lasted a lot longer.
I eventually went back to a 6.0 ROM, as I couldn't take all the problems.
pr5owner said:
you need to resync your battery circuit, charge your phone till your phone cant charge it anymore, then drain it till you cant even turn it on (no lights at all), charge it up again and it should be reading correctly.
here is more info about Li-ion and Li-Poly charge circuits.
see subheading "Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion
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Unfortunately, I've done that without planning. I am constantly fully charging the phone - then it drains and dies after a few morning phone calls...
This doesn't help...
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
ygeller said:
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
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Have Flashed ATT, then PDA Corner Pro V3. I didn't have much faith in the voodoo of flashing the official ROM to magically repair stuff - and so far I can't say that I've seen much change...
too bad...
ygeller said:
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
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You put PDA into bootloder mode and the flash, no need to jumpthrough hoops.
Actually the AT&T Official has repaired numerous bad flashes for me, is a lifesaver.
I have been a user of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom for many months. Before that, I had the stock Cingular 8525 WM5 Rom, and many of the cooked WM6 ones, starting with an early Black, a couple of Custel's, Sleuth's, and a few others. I now use personal derivations of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom that I have been cooking up over the past few months.
I have NEVER had good battery life on my 8525, with ANY ROM at all. Left alone, my battery dies after only a few hours. I have learned to live with this, always carrying a second (charged) battery, and I have chargers at home, at work, and in my car, in order to deal with the issue.
I must ask, when others say they get 2 or more DAYS out of a charge with "normal use", please define what "normal use" is for you.
My "normal use" includes checking 4 email boxes, one of them push, one at at 30 minute intervals, and two hourly. I use PocketWeather, which I have doing updates at 30 minute intervals for 4 locations. 1-calc updates monetary exchange rates daily. I make/receive only a couple of phone calls daily (yes, a BIG battery-killer), and I rarely receive text messages. No MMS at all. I utilize Bluetooth devices during my commutes in both directions, only use WiFi at home (another big battery drainer, but since I'm at home, it doesn't matter). I keep the IR port turned off unless I'm actively using it. I am on the internet with my device every chance I get, using the normal AT&T WAP access point with an unlimited plan.
I feel that with the amount of usage I get out of my device (especially Internet and emails), I can accept the poor battery performance.
But I am curious ... those of you who claim much higher numbers for battery life under "normal usage" ... please explain what "normal usage" means to you. I have never seen anything close to the numbers that have been posted by many.
FWIW, my two batteries are: 1 stock 1300mAh, and one is a Boxwave 1350 mAh. Both are well over a year old.
-pvs
pvs said:
I have been a user of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom for many months...
...I have NEVER had good battery life on my 8525, with ANY ROM at all. Left alone, my battery dies after only a few hours. I have learned to live with this, always carrying a second (charged) battery, and I have chargers at home, at work, and in my car, in order to deal with the issue.
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I'm forced to agree with pvs. I'm in a very similar situation: I use the stock AT&T WM6 ROM, although I've used a couple of other ROMs and Radios before this.
If I set my 8525 to auto-poll my 4 mailboxes every 15-60 minutes, I always notice a definite decrease in battery life. In the beginning, I'd get the "low battery" notification before I even left work late in the afternoon (this is after getting a full charge the night before). In between then and now, I turned off auto-polling. I couldn't get any new mail unless I did a manual send/receive...but my battery life improved dramatically; I could get nearly two full days' usage out of it before having to charge at night.
I was fairly confident it had something to do with that data-connection required to update the mail, and I feel that it's confirmed: 3 days ago, I found a registry edit that turns off the 3G/data connection after being idle so many minutes (I have mine set to 2 mins). I can now auto-poll my boxes, but my battery life has decreased again...not QUITE as bad as before, but I pretty much have to charge it every night, now.
(Additional "normal" usage for me has always included using Bluetooth for a headset and several calls during the day, varying in length...around 30-50 minutes total talk time, if I had to guess.)
Frankly, I'm surprised at the people who say they're able to leave their data connection on all day (even if it's sending no data in certain moments) and see no appreciable battery-drain. This is my second 8525 and second battery, and my experience has remained the same.
I was going to try and find some sort of push EMail solution...but to make matters worse, I've been doing research and unless I'm misunderstanding things, it looks like WM6's version of "Push EMail" requires that "constantly-on" data connection. I'm frustrated, and I'm seriously considering getting a Blackberry.
If someone can come up with some alternative ideas, I'd love to hear them, but...even though I love my 8525...my patience is starting to wear thin with it.
(ATT WM6 2.15.502.3, Radio 1.40.30.00)
Superion said:
I'm frustrated, and I'm seriously considering getting a Blackberry.
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If you want to leave your connection on all the time and have a battery for the day and night....Blackberry. My tytn is fun to play with and flash but for my email it's blackberry.
bartybet said:
If you want to leave your connection on all the time and have a battery for the day and night....Blackberry. My tytn is fun to play with and flash but for my email it's blackberry.
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Good grief. Is this the consensus of everyone? I'd hate to give up my 8525, since it has Windows Mobile versions of what I work with, plus some pretty nifty games and apps...but I want a device I can both work AND play with. So far, the 8525 is falling down on the Work/EMail end.
I've dodged the blackberry for so long because of 1) no touchscreen, 2) it lacks the versatility of a true PC (ideally, PCs can be used for work and play; blackberries seem meant primarily for work). Plus, I don't know if the Blackberry's "push" EMail features will work any better with my particular mailboxes (i.e., it may have to constantly "poll" those boxes as well, which may result in similar battery drain).
BTW: It's noon here, after 3-4 calls this morning (around 25 minutes or so), EMailboxes updating (2 at 30 mins, 2 at 60 mins), Bluetooth off, and having read 2 CNN articles (and closing it right after)...my 8525 is at 70% power. X-(
(ATT WM6 ROM 2.15.502.3, Radio 1.40.30.00)
Hi Android users, i've a question - how about battery draining in normal using of touch pro? I mean using wifi about 10-15min a day, few calls and sms. It's possible to get standtime as long as Winmo(3 days)?
And how about charging - is it good for my battery to charge in Android?
Your battery should charge just fine in Android, but I wouldn't run this 100% of the time.
For one, if you play around with Android a lot, it's going to drain your battery. Talk to people with native Android devices, they don't get 3 days standby... I know someone got ~36hrs, but that was with almost 100% standby (sleep). Wifi is going to slaughter your battery, no matter how you slice it...
This isn't meant to replace WinMo! At least not at this stage in the development... Even if we do get to that point eventually, I doubt the battery life is going to be like WinMo - Android does a lot more than WinMo, and this drains you battery The joys of having a more functional OS.
thanks for answers
My sister LG Optimus (gt540) got standby time 3-4days, but I think reason is battery - 1500mAh Biggest I've ever seen (capacity ard real size)
http://www.lg-optimus.com/
Yep, but what a price :-(
I really like android, but before something like harder sleep+ignore apps idiocy will be inserted inside kernel, until that is android cool thing to play with it (on Raphael100, many ports..), but its worts when u need to be online (GSM, data [3g/wifi/anything else]) for longer time then day (with some data transfers).
Ill be really happy droid user again, when battery drain will be solved. But right now, ill prefer slower system, but usable for much longer time then droid (with using ssh, sync, etc.)
I wish we could get some decent battery life out of this. I'd just need enough to get through a day..8-10 hours would be OK...I'm using a rooted Nook Color for serious Androiding and an EnergyROM WinMo build on my TP.
Some report 8 hours, no idea how as my at&t fuze gets about 4 hours tops... but that was with gingerbread alpha2 and updated kernel package.
I have read numerous posts about the Android L cell standby bug on the One M8 and used that to make as many changes as possible before posting here. I haven't seen many posts where the HTC One M9 was affected by the MM update in this way.
I have had my Verizon One M9 since March 2015 (preorderd it), and it worked great on Lollipop. My cell standby was consistently under 5%. Then, I upgraded to 6.0 around March 2016 and have been noticing consistent battery drain from what I think is the Phone Radio (Gsam) or Cell Standby (stock battery app). It is >40% with the screen on and >30% with the screen off. Airplane mode appears to help with the cell standby percentage (down to 5% after 12 hours, battery down by ~15%). I am also having more issues with the phone heating up; 114 Fahrenheit was the highest I noticed before it stopped functioning from the heat.
What I've tried:
-Verizon's Repair Assistant/Software Upgrade Tool
-Factory Reset
-Wipe Cache Partition
-Clear Network Settings
-Turn off Advanced Calling (seemed to help the most)
-Switch from Global to LTE/CDMA
-Keeping WiFi off unless I'm downloading something (helps the WiFi battery drain issue)
-Location off
What I have NOT tried:
-Booting into safe mode (my apps don't seem to be misbehaving per Gsam or the stock monitor)
-Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom ROM. (I'm S-On with a Locked Bootloader.)
In all fairness, I get good battery life (2 days) if I don't use my phone (<1 hour SOT in a day). If I use my phone, it dies in like 6 hours. I lose over 10% per hour of active use (Chrome, texting, Gmail). I don't have Facebook, Twitter, or G+, but I use Hangouts.
Reason I'm concerned: People I live with, same contract have a 1% cell standby (Samsung Galaxy S5 on 6.0.1). Why is my phone's cell standby so high even though this issue was supposedly fixed for MM?
Thoughts?
Hi, I agree, its pretty bad. You are getting better battery life than I am...
I've been on a stock rooted/S-Off for only three weeks or so, but am considering going back to my M8 because the battery life is so poor. (and I actually would use FM radio , which I can not on the M9 Verizon)
I run no social networking apps, have uninstalled everything I don't actually use.
GSAM tells me Google Play services is a culprit, so just today I've removed my Google acct, location turned off unless I need it, and will test over the next day or so .
I'm waiting for a custom rom probably HTC 10 port to get rave reviews and will likely give that a go .
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Hi, I agree, its pretty bad. You are getting better battery life than I am...
I've been on a stock rooted/S-Off for only three weeks or so, but am considering going back to my M8 because the battery life is so poor. (and I actually would use FM radio , which I can not on the M9 Verizon)
I run no social networking apps, have uninstalled everything I don't actually use.
GSAM tells me Google Play services is a culprit, so just today I've removed my Google acct, location turned off unless I need it, and will test over the next day or so .
I'm waiting for a custom rom probably HTC 10 port to get rave reviews and will likely give that a go .
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I'm not rooted yet. I noticed high Google Play Services usage (don't remember the exact percentage and didn't screenshot it) a few days of upgrading to Android M. It seemed to help to backup my data, factory reset the phone, run Verizon's Repair Assistant/Software Upgrade tool, and turn off Advanced Calling. Now Google Play Services is calculated at using 10% of my battery since last full charge (4.9% per GSam App Sucker). The cell standby issue was probably there all along, but I just didn't notice it until I tamed the Google Play Services drain. Maybe doing what I did will help you. I can't post outside links yet, but if you Google "Verizon's Repair Assistant - Software Upgrade (HTC)," it will be the first result that comes up.
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I suspect my phone's issue is a reporting bug, as some other posts have suggested. I feel bad complaining since I get great battery life if I don't use my phone. Comparing phone radio usage with airplane mode on for 12 hours to not using my phone for 12 hours (airplane mode off), the only difference was in reporting. It was 5% with airplane mode on and like 35% with it off. Same amount of battery was used. Perhaps the screen is really what's draining my battery. All I know is that I used to get double the screen-on-hours while running way more apps when I had Lollipop.
Winnie-the-Pooh said:
I have read numerous posts about the Android L cell standby bug on the One M8 and used that to make as many changes as possible before posting here. I haven't seen many posts where the HTC One M9 was affected by the MM update in this way.
I have had my Verizon One M9 since March 2015 (preorderd it), and it worked great on Lollipop. My cell standby was consistently under 5%. Then, I upgraded to 6.0 around March 2016 and have been noticing consistent battery drain from what I think is the Phone Radio (Gsam) or Cell Standby (stock battery app). It is >40% with the screen on and >30% with the screen off. Airplane mode appears to help with the cell standby percentage (down to 5% after 12 hours, battery down by ~15%). I am also having more issues with the phone heating up; 114 Fahrenheit was the highest I noticed before it stopped functioning from the heat.
What I've tried:
-Verizon's Repair Assistant/Software Upgrade Tool
-Factory Reset
-Wipe Cache Partition
-Clear Network Settings
-Turn off Advanced Calling (seemed to help the most)
-Switch from Global to LTE/CDMA
-Keeping WiFi off unless I'm downloading something (helps the WiFi battery drain issue)
-Location off
What I have NOT tried:
-Booting into safe mode (my apps don't seem to be misbehaving per Gsam or the stock monitor)
-Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom ROM. (I'm S-On with a Locked Bootloader.)
In all fairness, I get good battery life (2 days) if I don't use my phone (<1 hour SOT in a day). If I use my phone, it dies in like 6 hours. I lose over 10% per hour of active use (Chrome, texting, Gmail). I don't have Facebook, Twitter, or G+, but I use Hangouts.
Reason I'm concerned: People I live with, same contract have a 1% cell standby (Samsung Galaxy S5 on 6.0.1). Why is my phone's cell standby so high even though this issue was supposedly fixed for MM?
Thoughts?
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I'm quite sure I have this same problem. I've only had my M9 a week, and am seeing some strange and inconsistent battery drain. The majority of time if I'm doing a simple task like texting or checking e-mail, the phone gets warm (warmer than anything I've used). Battery seems to deplete quickly too, mainly with some from of google services being the culprit. However, I've also noticed high mobile radio usage. I can see that the mobile radio is active pretty much the same amount of time phone radio is, even when on wifi....I've never experienced this before. It is as if the mobile radio is constantly locked on (which I noticed there is a check box for this in dev options). I know the Moto X 2013 had this same issue when updating to L, and was never patched. I came from a Droid Maxx, so maybe I was spoiled with battery, but I can almost sit and watch my battery drain on this M9 (and thaw my hands if necessary). I also have rooted every android I have owned, and decided I don't want to root the M9 and take a break from all that. Immediately a bit annoyed with the heat and abysmal battery life. That said, build quality is great, and the user experience is quite good and fluid (aside from ridiculously pointless pinned notifications like when boomsound is active or when you connect to wifi and it reminds you you're connected....both mind bogglingly stupid and take up way too much of the notification panel).
If I have to disable a bunch of features to get it to not heat up and/or use less mobile radio, most likely will sell it. Unless rooting and romming helps? Though initially I'm not seeing much development on this M9. I want to like this phone so badly but these problems that shouldn't be problems make it a bit hard to do so.
I know, our device has really great battery life and I don't have anything to complain about that, but a friend of mine just got himself a new phone and his values make me a bit jealous and most of all: surprised and stunned.
He got himself a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (SD 625 variant, MKT variant really sucks), it has the same processor, same display and not even 700 mAh more (4100 mAh) and he got with some "dev rom" (made by Xiaomi, seems to just be the beta of that ugly MIUI 9, based on Andorid 7.0) 6h of SOT, doze seems to haven't really kicked in in that time. in their forum in the SOT thread I see people getting normally about 8-10 with up to over 12 h of SOT, most of them on stock ROM without any additions. And I'm quite irritated about that huge of a difference with not that much more battery. And he seems quite convinced that it's not on the cost of performance, you should notice that quickly on such a heavily skinned ROM.
Now my question is: how in hell is that even possible? I mean our devices seem quite comparablewith just a slight bump in battery but near-stock AOSP Android against pretty much an iOS clone. Does anyone have any idea what could cause that big of a difference? And if it's software based could that be done on our device? Because my experience and from different posts our device lasts about 5-6 h normally.
I mean I'm already lucky about my 2 days of usage with up to about 2.5 days on some weekends where I have a lot of stuff to do. But I wouldn't mind a bit of extra. But my biggest problem with that is as simple as: how? I could really use some explaination right now...
I don't have issues with device.. stock 7.1.1 with dec.patch, unlocked bootloader, with latest magisk. Also installed greenify.
Then you are one of very rare cases. My experience is about half of that.
And I also meant on stock ROM, without any modifications. So I don't know which apps you greenified, but that was not the point. I use Greenify too but more for apps that aren't supposed to run constantly in background when I only use it very seldomly.
The norm for this phone is 8+ hours SOT. Sometimes I get 10 and a few have had up to 12. Unless you're gaming 8 should be easy. 5 hours means something is wrong with your phone hardware, you have a rogue battery eating app or you're gaming. I rarely charge my phone over the weekend even when I use it a lot.
Well, neither of that is the case and I rarely see people claiming more than 6h of SOT
So the answer to your question is, it's the wrong question. The question should be, why does my battery not last very long and what apps or usage causes me to have such poor battery life? Compared to the Redmi Note 4 the Z Play is exactly where it should be.
Here's a link to the SOT thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/review/screen-time-t3643959
gsmarena battery life test 100h endurance rating: https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=8310#show
Here's an app to help diagnose battery condition (Accubattery): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=en
also betterbatterystats is really helpful.
I sincerely hope you get it sorted out!
Well, gsam isn't detecting any app that's off even with root so I don't think there is any. I installed that AccuBattery app, let's see what it has to say
Removed because of ****ty q&a system...
Oh, and another thing I noticed: I get very randomly reboots, and every time the battery percentage drops massively. Just had a 30% drop. And after the reboot the battery percentage seems like frozen. Now I rebooted and plugged in the cable and got 44% again... No fast charging. Do that detection seems very off
Motorola forum isn't helpful at all. Clearing cache and dalvik didn't change anything and running around for a week in secure mode (that's how random they mostly are) or even doing a factory reset without restoring apps is out of question for obvious reasons.
That's pretty weird. Did you try a factory reset and after restore your apps? There's not a lot you can do if you're not rooted, but you shouldn't need to do much anyway on stock rom.
Only other option is full RSD lite OS restore as a last resort.
I am rooted for long, that's why I use Greenify. I know it also works without but then it's a joke. As RSD lite is, it just refuses for everyone to detect anything on Windows 10.
Factory reset is out of question for the moment, it takes way too long to do it properly (with titanium and NANDroid backup first) and I won't have that much time probably for the whole of this month. Otherwise I would most likely already have went off to the next best custom ROM since Motorola just can't get their **** together and still work on 8.0 in test for 2.5 month with searching testers for another one.
I think the next thing I'll do is to try the good old battery calibration, just have to find the file storing the statistics. I know many say that won't work but that's rubbish, it worked for me already a few times
Update: no, no change. Don't know if that funky battery percentage bug on random reboots still happen since I haven't had any again yet, but they come too random and unpredictable.
And that AccuBattery just proves to be worthless. It tries to estimate the rest capacity, but then it even fails to detect original capacity by 500 mAh. The battery sucker stats are also unrealistic. It puts chrome first with 10%, while GSam with root puts it 5th at 4.6% after kernel, Spotify, Android system and fight services. Android itself even puts it 9th with screen, phone idle, cell standby, Android OS and Bluetooth in-between.
So let's see what happens first. Motorola releasing 8.0, which I will flash through the .xml.zip, this time using flashfile.xml which should force a factory reset... Or me finding the time to switch to a custom ROM
Edit: so I got another one, bit this time no crazy battery drop. But the other times I killed of the soft reboot sequence because Magisk can have some problems with that. This time I didn't
Yesterday I was finally able to do the factory reset since those darn random reboots became too annoying and Moto's support is had just the most ridiculous ideas... In the worst way.
Either way, now OTA looks better, let's see how it will turn out in the next days
Hi guys, I'm coming from a S7 which lost 1-2% during an 7-8 hour sleep, with everything off, now with a brand new S9+ I'm losing more than 5% during the night. I know this isn't excessive but I don't find it normal either when my other phone lost less than half of that. During the first days I used the S9+ without the SIM card and overnight drain was perfect, 2% every 10 hours, but once I inserted the SIM I started seeing a drop of 5 or 6% every night. Once again, I undrestand it's not terrible, but my other phone lost max 2% in the same situation.
So for what I've noticed, it's the SIM card radio signal the major drain, in GSAM it appears as 87% of the overnight drain. Removing the SIM makes it lose 2% overnight, that would be perfect but I can't enable Flight Mode everynight for I need to receive calls in case of an emergency.
Any suggestions?
Have you tried just disabling data? That would stop MMS texts but you'd still receive calls.
Sorry I didn't specify, when I said everything off it was including mobile data. Everything is disabled, only drain seems to come from the phone signal. I always have 2 or 3 bars so the signal is not terribly bad.
Klebe_ said:
Sorry I didn't specify, when I said everything off it was including mobile data. Everything is disabled, only drain seems to come from the phone signal. I always have 2 or 3 bars so the signal is not terribly bad.
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Ahh, ok. If there is nothing running in the background and the only thing is the Sim card, then I don't see much hope for an easy fix. Of course, there is the old factory reset that Samsung would suggest but that may be a big PITA for nothing.
Klebe_ said:
Hi guys, I'm coming from a S7 which lost 1-2% during an 7-8 hour sleep, with everything off, now with a brand new S9+ I'm losing more than 5% during the night.
Any suggestions?
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Ignore it, you're worrying over 3% battery drain?
Charge the phone for 2 minutes in the morning to gain your 3% back... :silly:
I think it is fine, Your installed app might have increase from the day you purchased your S9 so might might be increasing apps might be reason behind it? but over all why are your worrying about 3 to 5% as long as s9 is running android to your are going to have some percent drop overnight, I think you shouldn't worry about it
Tel864 said:
Ahh, ok. If there is nothing running in the background and the only thing is the Sim card, then I don't see much hope for an easy fix. Of course, there is the old factory reset that Samsung would suggest but that may be a big PITA for nothing.
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I thought that too but after factory reseting two times I am still getting this drain at night
*Detection* said:
Ignore it, you're worrying over 3% battery drain?
Charge the phone for 2 minutes in the morning to gain your 3% back... :silly:
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Yes, I know it's not a lot, but why my 2 years old S7 drained 1 or 2% overnight and my brand new S9 drains 6% or more? Some mornings I have woken up at 93% having unplugged it at 100%, and it went down to 92% after 20 seconds of use. Can different phones have a different drain because of the modem/phone signal?
TerryFalcon said:
I think it is fine, Your installed app might have increase from the day you purchased your S9 so might might be increasing apps might be reason behind it? but over all why are your worrying about 3 to 5% as long as s9 is running android to your are going to have some percent drop overnight, I think you shouldn't worry about it
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I factory reseted it a couple of times and still got a 6% drain in 7 hours, not 3 to 5%. My main concern is that I inserted the SIM in my old S7 for the night and got 2% drain, and next night tried my new S9 and got 7%. That's what I don¡t understand. The drain in the S9 is the same with everything factory set and with my S7 setup transferred. S9 drains 5 or 6% and S7 drains 2% maximum.
Klebe_ said:
I thought that too but after factory reseting two times I am still getting this drain at night
Yes, I know it's not a lot, but why my 2 years old S7 drained 1 or 2% overnight and my brand new S9 drains 6% or more? Some mornings I have woken up at 93% having unplugged it at 100%, and it went down to 92% after 20 seconds of use. Can different phones have a different drain because of the modem/phone signal?
I factory reseted it a couple of times and still got a 6% drain in 7 hours, not 3 to 5%. My main concern is that I inserted the SIM in my old S7 for the night and got 2% drain, and next night tried my new S9 and got 7%. That's what I don¡t understand. The drain in the S9 is the same with everything factory set and with my S7 setup transferred. S9 drains 5 or 6% and S7 drains 2% maximum.
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You're comparing apples and oranges. The S9 has a lot more under the hood and that's probably contributing to the extra usage. I think you may be chasing a ghost.
Tel864 said:
You're comparing apples and oranges. The S9 has a lot more under the hood and that's probably contributing to the extra usage. I think you may be chasing a ghost.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I see, so even though the phone is asleep and with everything off/disabled, the faster processor might consume more battery? I understand your point, yet I only see the drain when the SIM card is in the phone, when I take it out the drain is equal to my S7, 2% in 8hs max, that's what I find strange.
Klebe_ said:
Thanks for all the replies.
I see, so even though the phone is asleep and with everything off/disabled, the faster processor might consume more battery? I understand your point, yet I only see the drain when the SIM card is in the phone, when I take it out the drain is equal to my S7, 2% in 8hs max, that's what I find strange.
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If this is just 'because you are interested in what's causing the extra drain', and not because it's actually bothering you, then by all means try to narrow it down, but S7 vs S9 = completely different phones separated by 2 years, new tech, you can't expect them to perform identically, including power consumption
That said, my S9 probably drains about 2% a night, but I've used a package disabler to kill a load of useless system apps, possible one of them is causing the drain
AOD will drain too
You up to date with firmware?
Tried flashing a different CSC region stock ROM? Possible the modem (CP) is causing the drain if it only happens with the SIM inserted (I'm running O2U)
Tel864 said:
You're comparing apples and oranges. The S9 has a lot more under the hood and that's probably contributing to the extra usage. I think you may be chasing a ghost.
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If this is just 'because you are interested in what's causing the extra drain', and not because it's actually bothering you, then by all means try to narrow it down, but S7 vs S9 = completely different phones separated by 2 years, new tech, you can't expect them to perform identically, including power consumption
That said, my S9 probably drains about 2% a night, but I've used a package disabler to kill a load of useless system apps, possible one of them is causing the drain
AOD will drain too
You up to date with firmware?
Tried flashing a different CSC region stock ROM? Possible the modem (CP) is causing the drain if it only happens with the SIM inserted (I'm running O2U)
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News, I have reseted to factory settings but didn't connect to wifi so the phone doesn´t download any carrier bloatware or update/install other apps. Drain from 8PM to 7AM was 2%. I will try tonight again without modifying anything except for what the phone installs automatically. If the drain appears again I will start disabling bloatware until I find the culprit.
Thanks a lot for the help. It doesn't bother me a lot, but a drain of 6 or even 7% sometimes during the night is a bit annoying. That's half an hour SOT I lose.
Klebe_ said:
News, I have reseted to factory settings but didn't connect to wifi so the phone doesn´t download any carrier bloatware or update/install other apps. Drain from 8PM to 7AM was 2%. I will try tonight again without modifying anything except for what the phone installs automatically. If the drain appears again I will start disabling bloatware until I find the culprit.
Thanks a lot for the help. It doesn't bother me a lot, but a drain of 6 or even 7% sometimes during the night is a bit annoying. That's half an hour SOT I lose.
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Surely you're back in the house before your phone reaches 7% though? Would be a very rare occasion when that last few % actually made the difference between having power or not
But like I said before, you don't get up and leave the house in 30 seconds, plug it in while you get ready if you really need that extra 30 mins
But yea, carrier bloatware could easily be the culprit, hence the package disabler pro (no root needed)
Or flash an unbranded stock firmware (BTU and XEU are carrier bloat free in the UK)
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If this is just 'because you are interested in what's causing the extra drain', and not because it's actually bothering you, then by all means try to narrow it down, but S7 vs S9 = completely different phones separated by 2 years, new tech, you can't expect them to perform identically, including power consumption
That said, my S9 probably drains about 2% a night, but I've used a package disabler to kill a load of useless system apps, possible one of them is causing the drain
AOD will drain too
You up to date with firmware?
Tried flashing a different CSC region stock ROM? Possible the modem (CP) is causing the drain if it only happens with the SIM inserted (I'm running O2U)
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Why should the region of the firmware influence the drain? All firmwares should be the same. In theory.
doriandiaconu said:
Why should the region of the firmware influence the drain? All firmwares should be the same. In theory.
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Certain CSCs enable certain features, VoLTE / WiFi calling, call recording, etc etc, and for example if BTU and XEU which are both UK unbranded were identical, they would surely get the same OTA at the same time, but they don't, and carriers add their own bloat if you have a CSC that is carrier branded
Also changing CSCs often requires Odin's repartition option to be enabled as the firmware requires different partition size vs the original CSC that was on the device when bought
Different modems I would imagine for different regions too, if the drain is coming from a SIM related issue, the modem part of the firmware would be a suspect
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Certain CSCs enable certain features, VoLTE / WiFi calling, call recording, etc etc, and for example if BTU and XEU which are both UK unbranded were identical, they would surely get the same OTA at the same time, but they don't, and carriers add their own bloat if you have a CSC that is carrier branded
Also changing CSCs often requires Odin's repartition option to be enabled as the firmware requires different partition size vs the original CSC that was on the device when bought
Different modems I would imagine for different regions too, if the drain is coming from a SIM related issue, the modem part of the firmware would be a suspect
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I read that there are issues with the modems on the S9 some time ago. Maybe that's the issue in my case as well? I got Wi-Fi calling, but the phone is unlocked and I got no bloat (except the Google apps).
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I read that there are issues with the modems on the S9 some time ago. Maybe that's the issue in my case as well? I got Wi-Fi calling, but the phone is unlocked and I got no bloat (except the Google apps).
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Quite possibly, I'm not seeing any extra drain than I should be and I'm running the O2U firmware (United Kingdom)
I have WiFi calling and 4G calling too, might be worth flashing this firmware to test if yours is the G960F? There isn't really much bloat, a couple of O2 apps only and you get the option during first boot to install or not install them anyway
Do you know how can I disable the bloatware now that BK Plugin 2 and BK Package Disabler are down?
Klebe_ said:
Do you know how can I disable the bloatware now that BK Plugin 2 and BK Package Disabler are down?
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Package Disabler Pro & PDP engine addon, both on the play store
Well, I found the Package Disabler Pro + after my last reply and installed it. Didn't install the PDP Engine Addon as I hadn't read your reply at the time and the app said the Disabler Pro + worked alone without the need of another plugin.
Automatically disabled around 120 bloatware apps, restored the ones I needed or wanted to use, and disabled a couple more that were carrier specific bloatware. Restarted the phone, charged to 100% and went to sleep after unplugging and setting my alarm.
Woke up this morning after 7 hours of sleep with 99% and a smile on my face. Seems that it was bloatware the culprit of the standby drain, and even my day stamina has been improved, today I've given it a light usage and I'm still at 81% at 6PM with 1hr 24m SOT.
Thanks a lot for your help!
Klebe_ said:
Well, I found the Package Disabler Pro + after my last reply and installed it. Didn't install the PDP Engine Addon as I hadn't read your reply at the time and the app said the Disabler Pro + worked alone without the need of another plugin.
Automatically disabled around 120 bloatware apps, restored the ones I needed or wanted to use, and disabled a couple more that were carrier specific bloatware. Restarted the phone, charged to 100% and went to sleep after unplugging and setting my alarm.
Woke up this morning after 7 hours of sleep with 99% and a smile on my face. Seems that it was bloatware the culprit of the standby drain, and even my day stamina has been improved, today I've given it a light usage and I'm still at 81% at 6PM with 1hr 24m SOT.
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Good stuff :good: