Hi guys, I'm coming from a S7 which lost 1-2% during an 7-8 hour sleep, with everything off, now with a brand new S9+ I'm losing more than 5% during the night. I know this isn't excessive but I don't find it normal either when my other phone lost less than half of that. During the first days I used the S9+ without the SIM card and overnight drain was perfect, 2% every 10 hours, but once I inserted the SIM I started seeing a drop of 5 or 6% every night. Once again, I undrestand it's not terrible, but my other phone lost max 2% in the same situation.
So for what I've noticed, it's the SIM card radio signal the major drain, in GSAM it appears as 87% of the overnight drain. Removing the SIM makes it lose 2% overnight, that would be perfect but I can't enable Flight Mode everynight for I need to receive calls in case of an emergency.
Any suggestions?
Have you tried just disabling data? That would stop MMS texts but you'd still receive calls.
Sorry I didn't specify, when I said everything off it was including mobile data. Everything is disabled, only drain seems to come from the phone signal. I always have 2 or 3 bars so the signal is not terribly bad.
Klebe_ said:
Sorry I didn't specify, when I said everything off it was including mobile data. Everything is disabled, only drain seems to come from the phone signal. I always have 2 or 3 bars so the signal is not terribly bad.
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Ahh, ok. If there is nothing running in the background and the only thing is the Sim card, then I don't see much hope for an easy fix. Of course, there is the old factory reset that Samsung would suggest but that may be a big PITA for nothing.
Klebe_ said:
Hi guys, I'm coming from a S7 which lost 1-2% during an 7-8 hour sleep, with everything off, now with a brand new S9+ I'm losing more than 5% during the night.
Any suggestions?
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Ignore it, you're worrying over 3% battery drain?
Charge the phone for 2 minutes in the morning to gain your 3% back... :silly:
I think it is fine, Your installed app might have increase from the day you purchased your S9 so might might be increasing apps might be reason behind it? but over all why are your worrying about 3 to 5% as long as s9 is running android to your are going to have some percent drop overnight, I think you shouldn't worry about it
Tel864 said:
Ahh, ok. If there is nothing running in the background and the only thing is the Sim card, then I don't see much hope for an easy fix. Of course, there is the old factory reset that Samsung would suggest but that may be a big PITA for nothing.
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I thought that too but after factory reseting two times I am still getting this drain at night
*Detection* said:
Ignore it, you're worrying over 3% battery drain?
Charge the phone for 2 minutes in the morning to gain your 3% back... :silly:
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Yes, I know it's not a lot, but why my 2 years old S7 drained 1 or 2% overnight and my brand new S9 drains 6% or more? Some mornings I have woken up at 93% having unplugged it at 100%, and it went down to 92% after 20 seconds of use. Can different phones have a different drain because of the modem/phone signal?
TerryFalcon said:
I think it is fine, Your installed app might have increase from the day you purchased your S9 so might might be increasing apps might be reason behind it? but over all why are your worrying about 3 to 5% as long as s9 is running android to your are going to have some percent drop overnight, I think you shouldn't worry about it
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I factory reseted it a couple of times and still got a 6% drain in 7 hours, not 3 to 5%. My main concern is that I inserted the SIM in my old S7 for the night and got 2% drain, and next night tried my new S9 and got 7%. That's what I don¡t understand. The drain in the S9 is the same with everything factory set and with my S7 setup transferred. S9 drains 5 or 6% and S7 drains 2% maximum.
Klebe_ said:
I thought that too but after factory reseting two times I am still getting this drain at night
Yes, I know it's not a lot, but why my 2 years old S7 drained 1 or 2% overnight and my brand new S9 drains 6% or more? Some mornings I have woken up at 93% having unplugged it at 100%, and it went down to 92% after 20 seconds of use. Can different phones have a different drain because of the modem/phone signal?
I factory reseted it a couple of times and still got a 6% drain in 7 hours, not 3 to 5%. My main concern is that I inserted the SIM in my old S7 for the night and got 2% drain, and next night tried my new S9 and got 7%. That's what I don¡t understand. The drain in the S9 is the same with everything factory set and with my S7 setup transferred. S9 drains 5 or 6% and S7 drains 2% maximum.
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You're comparing apples and oranges. The S9 has a lot more under the hood and that's probably contributing to the extra usage. I think you may be chasing a ghost.
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You're comparing apples and oranges. The S9 has a lot more under the hood and that's probably contributing to the extra usage. I think you may be chasing a ghost.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I see, so even though the phone is asleep and with everything off/disabled, the faster processor might consume more battery? I understand your point, yet I only see the drain when the SIM card is in the phone, when I take it out the drain is equal to my S7, 2% in 8hs max, that's what I find strange.
Klebe_ said:
Thanks for all the replies.
I see, so even though the phone is asleep and with everything off/disabled, the faster processor might consume more battery? I understand your point, yet I only see the drain when the SIM card is in the phone, when I take it out the drain is equal to my S7, 2% in 8hs max, that's what I find strange.
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If this is just 'because you are interested in what's causing the extra drain', and not because it's actually bothering you, then by all means try to narrow it down, but S7 vs S9 = completely different phones separated by 2 years, new tech, you can't expect them to perform identically, including power consumption
That said, my S9 probably drains about 2% a night, but I've used a package disabler to kill a load of useless system apps, possible one of them is causing the drain
AOD will drain too
You up to date with firmware?
Tried flashing a different CSC region stock ROM? Possible the modem (CP) is causing the drain if it only happens with the SIM inserted (I'm running O2U)
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You're comparing apples and oranges. The S9 has a lot more under the hood and that's probably contributing to the extra usage. I think you may be chasing a ghost.
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If this is just 'because you are interested in what's causing the extra drain', and not because it's actually bothering you, then by all means try to narrow it down, but S7 vs S9 = completely different phones separated by 2 years, new tech, you can't expect them to perform identically, including power consumption
That said, my S9 probably drains about 2% a night, but I've used a package disabler to kill a load of useless system apps, possible one of them is causing the drain
AOD will drain too
You up to date with firmware?
Tried flashing a different CSC region stock ROM? Possible the modem (CP) is causing the drain if it only happens with the SIM inserted (I'm running O2U)
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News, I have reseted to factory settings but didn't connect to wifi so the phone doesn´t download any carrier bloatware or update/install other apps. Drain from 8PM to 7AM was 2%. I will try tonight again without modifying anything except for what the phone installs automatically. If the drain appears again I will start disabling bloatware until I find the culprit.
Thanks a lot for the help. It doesn't bother me a lot, but a drain of 6 or even 7% sometimes during the night is a bit annoying. That's half an hour SOT I lose.
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News, I have reseted to factory settings but didn't connect to wifi so the phone doesn´t download any carrier bloatware or update/install other apps. Drain from 8PM to 7AM was 2%. I will try tonight again without modifying anything except for what the phone installs automatically. If the drain appears again I will start disabling bloatware until I find the culprit.
Thanks a lot for the help. It doesn't bother me a lot, but a drain of 6 or even 7% sometimes during the night is a bit annoying. That's half an hour SOT I lose.
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Surely you're back in the house before your phone reaches 7% though? Would be a very rare occasion when that last few % actually made the difference between having power or not
But like I said before, you don't get up and leave the house in 30 seconds, plug it in while you get ready if you really need that extra 30 mins
But yea, carrier bloatware could easily be the culprit, hence the package disabler pro (no root needed)
Or flash an unbranded stock firmware (BTU and XEU are carrier bloat free in the UK)
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If this is just 'because you are interested in what's causing the extra drain', and not because it's actually bothering you, then by all means try to narrow it down, but S7 vs S9 = completely different phones separated by 2 years, new tech, you can't expect them to perform identically, including power consumption
That said, my S9 probably drains about 2% a night, but I've used a package disabler to kill a load of useless system apps, possible one of them is causing the drain
AOD will drain too
You up to date with firmware?
Tried flashing a different CSC region stock ROM? Possible the modem (CP) is causing the drain if it only happens with the SIM inserted (I'm running O2U)
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Why should the region of the firmware influence the drain? All firmwares should be the same. In theory.
doriandiaconu said:
Why should the region of the firmware influence the drain? All firmwares should be the same. In theory.
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Certain CSCs enable certain features, VoLTE / WiFi calling, call recording, etc etc, and for example if BTU and XEU which are both UK unbranded were identical, they would surely get the same OTA at the same time, but they don't, and carriers add their own bloat if you have a CSC that is carrier branded
Also changing CSCs often requires Odin's repartition option to be enabled as the firmware requires different partition size vs the original CSC that was on the device when bought
Different modems I would imagine for different regions too, if the drain is coming from a SIM related issue, the modem part of the firmware would be a suspect
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Certain CSCs enable certain features, VoLTE / WiFi calling, call recording, etc etc, and for example if BTU and XEU which are both UK unbranded were identical, they would surely get the same OTA at the same time, but they don't, and carriers add their own bloat if you have a CSC that is carrier branded
Also changing CSCs often requires Odin's repartition option to be enabled as the firmware requires different partition size vs the original CSC that was on the device when bought
Different modems I would imagine for different regions too, if the drain is coming from a SIM related issue, the modem part of the firmware would be a suspect
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I read that there are issues with the modems on the S9 some time ago. Maybe that's the issue in my case as well? I got Wi-Fi calling, but the phone is unlocked and I got no bloat (except the Google apps).
doriandiaconu said:
I read that there are issues with the modems on the S9 some time ago. Maybe that's the issue in my case as well? I got Wi-Fi calling, but the phone is unlocked and I got no bloat (except the Google apps).
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Quite possibly, I'm not seeing any extra drain than I should be and I'm running the O2U firmware (United Kingdom)
I have WiFi calling and 4G calling too, might be worth flashing this firmware to test if yours is the G960F? There isn't really much bloat, a couple of O2 apps only and you get the option during first boot to install or not install them anyway
Do you know how can I disable the bloatware now that BK Plugin 2 and BK Package Disabler are down?
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Do you know how can I disable the bloatware now that BK Plugin 2 and BK Package Disabler are down?
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Package Disabler Pro & PDP engine addon, both on the play store
Well, I found the Package Disabler Pro + after my last reply and installed it. Didn't install the PDP Engine Addon as I hadn't read your reply at the time and the app said the Disabler Pro + worked alone without the need of another plugin.
Automatically disabled around 120 bloatware apps, restored the ones I needed or wanted to use, and disabled a couple more that were carrier specific bloatware. Restarted the phone, charged to 100% and went to sleep after unplugging and setting my alarm.
Woke up this morning after 7 hours of sleep with 99% and a smile on my face. Seems that it was bloatware the culprit of the standby drain, and even my day stamina has been improved, today I've given it a light usage and I'm still at 81% at 6PM with 1hr 24m SOT.
Thanks a lot for your help!
Klebe_ said:
Well, I found the Package Disabler Pro + after my last reply and installed it. Didn't install the PDP Engine Addon as I hadn't read your reply at the time and the app said the Disabler Pro + worked alone without the need of another plugin.
Automatically disabled around 120 bloatware apps, restored the ones I needed or wanted to use, and disabled a couple more that were carrier specific bloatware. Restarted the phone, charged to 100% and went to sleep after unplugging and setting my alarm.
Woke up this morning after 7 hours of sleep with 99% and a smile on my face. Seems that it was bloatware the culprit of the standby drain, and even my day stamina has been improved, today I've given it a light usage and I'm still at 81% at 6PM with 1hr 24m SOT.
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Good stuff :good:
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Hi folks,
I have had my rogers S3 for several days now. while i love it very much but one issue frustrates me. I get only about 6-7 hours for one charge on a maybe a little bit more than moderate use.
I read somewhere there was an error in one of the system config files but that article was talking about the international version. do any of you experience the same?
My GS3 battery life is going against all the reviews. help.
I had the same problem, I did a factory reset and it seems to be considerably better now.
not sure why the phone kept going into deep discharge, but it hasn't done it since and it's been a week or so now.. is your phone also warm near the USB connector?
The error in the config file was just in regards to the reporting of usage.. Cell Standby usage was being over-reported.. I am not seeing that as being the case on my Rogers SGS3..
One thing I did do is nuke all the rogers installed apps.. I got sick of the VVM+ whining constantly about not being able to work over WiFi.. I just used Titanium Backup to freeze all of the rogers apps.. (rather than uninstalling them).. battery life is quite good actually.. very surprised.
quekou said:
Hi folks,
I have had my rogers S3 for several days now. while i love it very much but one issue frustrates me. I get only about 6-7 hours for one charge on a maybe a little bit more than moderate use.
I read somewhere there was an error in one of the system config files but that article was talking about the international version. do any of you experience the same?
My GS3 battery life is going against all the reviews. help.
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jvoisin said:
I had the same problem, I did a factory reset and it seems to be considerably better now.
not sure why the phone kept going into deep discharge, but it hasn't done it since and it's been a week or so now.. is your phone also warm near the USB connector?
The error in the config file was just in regards to the reporting of usage.. Cell Standby usage was being over-reported.. I am not seeing that as being the case on my Rogers SGS3..
One thing I did do is nuke all the rogers installed apps.. I got sick of the VVM+ whining constantly about not being able to work over WiFi.. I just used Titanium Backup to freeze all of the rogers apps.. (rather than uninstalling them).. battery life is quite good actually.. very surprised.
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thank you for the info. how is a factory reset done? does that mean i would lose everything i downloaded already? i will give the Titanium Backup a try to get rid of the rogers apps too to see if it helps. yeah, the phone gets pretty warm after a short while.
Are you on LTE, My battery gets about the same with LTE always on since it does consume a lot of power
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quekou said:
Hi folks,
I have had my rogers S3 for several days now. while i love it very much but one issue frustrates me. I get only about 6-7 hours for one charge on a maybe a little bit more than moderate use.
I read somewhere there was an error in one of the system config files but that article was talking about the international version. do any of you experience the same?
My GS3 battery life is going against all the reviews. help.
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Well.. this may not be a fix but it really worked forr me. Battery time was at least trippeled.
I drained my battery until the phone shut down, then I connected the charger WITHOUT turning on the phone (allright I KNOW it sounds stupid). Noticed the time to charge it fully increased from 1.5-2 hours to 4-5 hours.
I had to charge the phone during the day before, now it last for 2 days at least.
The cell standby is still wrong but that is just a indication fault, this was a real problem for me.
it's the rogers apps!!!
FYI - disable the rogers apps (all of them) and your battery life will DRASTICALLY increase. I've tested this with them enabled (battery life sucked), and disabled (battery lasted for like 1.5+ days).
Oh and let rogers know their apps suck like I did. The more people that report it the more chance they might actually fix them. A fun way is to do it to their twitter account @rogershelps
If you decide to keep them disabled, be sure to call Rogers and tell them to remove any of the features those apps use...thus reducing you monthly bill.
Rogers apps
dorcy75 said:
FYI - disable the rogers apps (all of them) and your battery life will DRASTICALLY increase. I've tested this with them enabled (battery life sucked), and disabled (battery lasted for like 1.5+ days).
Oh and let rogers know their apps suck like I did. The more people that report it the more chance they might actually fix them. A fun way is to do it to their twitter account @rogershelps
If you decide to keep them disabled, be sure to call Rogers and tell them to remove any of the features those apps use...thus reducing you monthly bill.
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Forgive my ignorance, I have a VZW GS3. What are Rogers apps? What app names should I look for to see if they're on my phone? Thanks to VZW I cant unlock and root my phone this may not matter.
why don't you return it for a new one?
cbandchikin said:
Forgive my ignorance, I have a VZW GS3. What are Rogers apps? What app names should I look for to see if they're on my phone? Thanks to VZW I cant unlock and root my phone this may not matter.
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Rogers is one of the provider here in Canada...similar to AT&T. They each have their own bloatware that they install in their phones.
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Hi guys,
How do you remove Rogers app? You have to be root, right?
Thx,
Phil
korg33 said:
Hi guys,
How do you remove Rogers app? You have to be root, right?
Thx,
Phil
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With root you can either delete them or use titanium backup to freeze them (stop them from running or updating).
I did this (freeze the Rogers apps and most of the samsung ones) and get all day battery life (6am to midnight) with between 4 & 5 hours of screen time.
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I've found that battery life is related to cell coverage. If I have 3-5 bars and I'm not using the phone I could lose about a percent of battery per hour and my phone will run at a 40-45 when I do use it. If I only have 1 or 2 bats and it keeps switching between 3g and 4G I could easily lose 6-10 percent an hour and my phone will run at 50 or so degrees celcius. A restart seems to help the phone get a better lock. All this temps were cpu temps.
I just did a wipe/reset and found that this worked for me. I couldn't squeeze out a day with it and now go to bed with 30-40 percent left.
Battery life
My battery life on a debloated stock build was average. I was getting about 16-18hrs on moderate use. I've recently tried CPU Editor battery saver profile and so far its going great. I'll post back on the results after I go through a few charging/discharging cycles.
The forum page for the CPU Editor is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798765
[MOD/SCRIPT]CPU Editor SGS3 Edition - Secret to Die Hard Battery
I'm with rogers and my battery is pretty awful too. Not quite as bad as yours, but still not as good as I'd hope with LTE off.
What kind of usage do you have though ? For example I work with a guy who has the same model and was complaining about battery. I checked his stats and was at 35 percent battery with 4 hours display time. If you're getting 5 to 6 hours screen on time that's enough to kill battery. If its in standby for 6 to 7 hours and battery is dying then something is wrong
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I've had very similar issues. Tried several ROMs and had charging problems and finally ended up on cm10 and it took about 3.5 hours to charge from 30% to 85%. Then dropped to 80% after only thirty minutes off the charger. Not sure exactly what to do to fix the issue.
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I have read numerous posts about the Android L cell standby bug on the One M8 and used that to make as many changes as possible before posting here. I haven't seen many posts where the HTC One M9 was affected by the MM update in this way.
I have had my Verizon One M9 since March 2015 (preorderd it), and it worked great on Lollipop. My cell standby was consistently under 5%. Then, I upgraded to 6.0 around March 2016 and have been noticing consistent battery drain from what I think is the Phone Radio (Gsam) or Cell Standby (stock battery app). It is >40% with the screen on and >30% with the screen off. Airplane mode appears to help with the cell standby percentage (down to 5% after 12 hours, battery down by ~15%). I am also having more issues with the phone heating up; 114 Fahrenheit was the highest I noticed before it stopped functioning from the heat.
What I've tried:
-Verizon's Repair Assistant/Software Upgrade Tool
-Factory Reset
-Wipe Cache Partition
-Clear Network Settings
-Turn off Advanced Calling (seemed to help the most)
-Switch from Global to LTE/CDMA
-Keeping WiFi off unless I'm downloading something (helps the WiFi battery drain issue)
-Location off
What I have NOT tried:
-Booting into safe mode (my apps don't seem to be misbehaving per Gsam or the stock monitor)
-Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom ROM. (I'm S-On with a Locked Bootloader.)
In all fairness, I get good battery life (2 days) if I don't use my phone (<1 hour SOT in a day). If I use my phone, it dies in like 6 hours. I lose over 10% per hour of active use (Chrome, texting, Gmail). I don't have Facebook, Twitter, or G+, but I use Hangouts.
Reason I'm concerned: People I live with, same contract have a 1% cell standby (Samsung Galaxy S5 on 6.0.1). Why is my phone's cell standby so high even though this issue was supposedly fixed for MM?
Thoughts?
Hi, I agree, its pretty bad. You are getting better battery life than I am...
I've been on a stock rooted/S-Off for only three weeks or so, but am considering going back to my M8 because the battery life is so poor. (and I actually would use FM radio , which I can not on the M9 Verizon)
I run no social networking apps, have uninstalled everything I don't actually use.
GSAM tells me Google Play services is a culprit, so just today I've removed my Google acct, location turned off unless I need it, and will test over the next day or so .
I'm waiting for a custom rom probably HTC 10 port to get rave reviews and will likely give that a go .
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Hi, I agree, its pretty bad. You are getting better battery life than I am...
I've been on a stock rooted/S-Off for only three weeks or so, but am considering going back to my M8 because the battery life is so poor. (and I actually would use FM radio , which I can not on the M9 Verizon)
I run no social networking apps, have uninstalled everything I don't actually use.
GSAM tells me Google Play services is a culprit, so just today I've removed my Google acct, location turned off unless I need it, and will test over the next day or so .
I'm waiting for a custom rom probably HTC 10 port to get rave reviews and will likely give that a go .
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I'm not rooted yet. I noticed high Google Play Services usage (don't remember the exact percentage and didn't screenshot it) a few days of upgrading to Android M. It seemed to help to backup my data, factory reset the phone, run Verizon's Repair Assistant/Software Upgrade tool, and turn off Advanced Calling. Now Google Play Services is calculated at using 10% of my battery since last full charge (4.9% per GSam App Sucker). The cell standby issue was probably there all along, but I just didn't notice it until I tamed the Google Play Services drain. Maybe doing what I did will help you. I can't post outside links yet, but if you Google "Verizon's Repair Assistant - Software Upgrade (HTC)," it will be the first result that comes up.
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I suspect my phone's issue is a reporting bug, as some other posts have suggested. I feel bad complaining since I get great battery life if I don't use my phone. Comparing phone radio usage with airplane mode on for 12 hours to not using my phone for 12 hours (airplane mode off), the only difference was in reporting. It was 5% with airplane mode on and like 35% with it off. Same amount of battery was used. Perhaps the screen is really what's draining my battery. All I know is that I used to get double the screen-on-hours while running way more apps when I had Lollipop.
Winnie-the-Pooh said:
I have read numerous posts about the Android L cell standby bug on the One M8 and used that to make as many changes as possible before posting here. I haven't seen many posts where the HTC One M9 was affected by the MM update in this way.
I have had my Verizon One M9 since March 2015 (preorderd it), and it worked great on Lollipop. My cell standby was consistently under 5%. Then, I upgraded to 6.0 around March 2016 and have been noticing consistent battery drain from what I think is the Phone Radio (Gsam) or Cell Standby (stock battery app). It is >40% with the screen on and >30% with the screen off. Airplane mode appears to help with the cell standby percentage (down to 5% after 12 hours, battery down by ~15%). I am also having more issues with the phone heating up; 114 Fahrenheit was the highest I noticed before it stopped functioning from the heat.
What I've tried:
-Verizon's Repair Assistant/Software Upgrade Tool
-Factory Reset
-Wipe Cache Partition
-Clear Network Settings
-Turn off Advanced Calling (seemed to help the most)
-Switch from Global to LTE/CDMA
-Keeping WiFi off unless I'm downloading something (helps the WiFi battery drain issue)
-Location off
What I have NOT tried:
-Booting into safe mode (my apps don't seem to be misbehaving per Gsam or the stock monitor)
-Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom ROM. (I'm S-On with a Locked Bootloader.)
In all fairness, I get good battery life (2 days) if I don't use my phone (<1 hour SOT in a day). If I use my phone, it dies in like 6 hours. I lose over 10% per hour of active use (Chrome, texting, Gmail). I don't have Facebook, Twitter, or G+, but I use Hangouts.
Reason I'm concerned: People I live with, same contract have a 1% cell standby (Samsung Galaxy S5 on 6.0.1). Why is my phone's cell standby so high even though this issue was supposedly fixed for MM?
Thoughts?
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I'm quite sure I have this same problem. I've only had my M9 a week, and am seeing some strange and inconsistent battery drain. The majority of time if I'm doing a simple task like texting or checking e-mail, the phone gets warm (warmer than anything I've used). Battery seems to deplete quickly too, mainly with some from of google services being the culprit. However, I've also noticed high mobile radio usage. I can see that the mobile radio is active pretty much the same amount of time phone radio is, even when on wifi....I've never experienced this before. It is as if the mobile radio is constantly locked on (which I noticed there is a check box for this in dev options). I know the Moto X 2013 had this same issue when updating to L, and was never patched. I came from a Droid Maxx, so maybe I was spoiled with battery, but I can almost sit and watch my battery drain on this M9 (and thaw my hands if necessary). I also have rooted every android I have owned, and decided I don't want to root the M9 and take a break from all that. Immediately a bit annoyed with the heat and abysmal battery life. That said, build quality is great, and the user experience is quite good and fluid (aside from ridiculously pointless pinned notifications like when boomsound is active or when you connect to wifi and it reminds you you're connected....both mind bogglingly stupid and take up way too much of the notification panel).
If I have to disable a bunch of features to get it to not heat up and/or use less mobile radio, most likely will sell it. Unless rooting and romming helps? Though initially I'm not seeing much development on this M9. I want to like this phone so badly but these problems that shouldn't be problems make it a bit hard to do so.
I got my HTC 10 about 7 month ago and I was really happy with it until three or four days ago that I have no idea why my phone started to drain drastically even when I'm not using it at all.
I'm not a heavy user, I have never even installed a game.
I repeat, I was completely satisfied with the battery.
Most of days I used it for 2 days and still having 10 % remaining.
Until 3 or 4 days ago I noticed that my phone is draining way too much rapidly.
I did everything that I could think of but nothing got better.
Yesterday I reset factory the phone, and just installed less than 10 essential apps (I used to have more than 50 apps on my phone before this) and I have restricted their access to network.
Last night I fully charged it and shut everything off. No Wi-Fi, no data, no nothing. Even I turned on the power saving mode. When I got up in the morning the battery percentage was 28% while my phone used to use less than 5% during nights.
I checked battery usage details and the results were shocking:
Android OS 55%
Android system 24%
Phone idle 11%
Only 1 app had used the battery and it was:
Telegram 1%
What should I do?
This change hasn't been gradually so I'd say "okay my phone is used out and old! "
This change "just" happened. I have no idea why.
Please someone give me some advice.
socialgadfly said:
I got my HTC 10 about 7 month ago and I was really happy with it until three or four days ago that I have no idea why my phone started to drain drastically even when I'm not using it at all.
I'm not a heavy user, I have never even installed a game.
I repeat, I was completely satisfied with the battery.
Most of days I used it for 2 days and still having 10 % remaining.
Until 3 or 4 days ago I noticed that my phone is draining way too much rapidly.
I did everything that I could think of but nothing got better.
Yesterday I reset factory the phone, and just installed less than 10 essential apps (I used to have more than 50 apps on my phone before this) and I have restricted their access to network.
Last night I fully charged it and shut everything off. No Wi-Fi, no data, no nothing. Even I turned on the power saving mode. When I got up in the morning the battery percentage was 28% while my phone used to use less than 5% during nights.
I checked battery usage details and the results were shocking:
Android OS 55%
Android system 24%
Phone idle 11%
Only 1 app had used the battery and it was:
Telegram 1%
What should I do?
This change hasn't been gradually so I'd say "okay my phone is used out and old! "
This change "just" happened. I have no idea why.
Please someone give me some advice.
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That doesn't sound right at all. I had a similar experience recently and sent it for repair, it's possible it's hardware related. Is quick charge working ?
Mine was apparently due to a corrupted OS which is odd as I did 2 factory resets and 3 ruu's prior to sending it back. It's fine now but I don't understand why the ruu didn't fix the corrupt OS.
I assumed mine was hardware related and possibly due to faulty usb port as quick charge didn't work consistently, but apparently not. Sorry to not be much help but you could try an ruu which would be more thorough than a reset ( it's quite straightforward if you find the right one for your device )
timbohobbs said:
That doesn't sound right at all. I had a similar experience recently and sent it for repair, it's possible it's hardware related. Is quick charge working ?
Mine was apparently due to a corrupted OS which is odd as I did 2 factory resets and 3 ruu's prior to sending it back. It's fine now but I don't understand why the ruu didn't fix the corrupt OS.
I assumed mine was hardware related and possibly due to faulty usb port as quick charge didn't work consistently, but apparently not. Sorry to not be much help but you could try an ruu which would be more thorough than a reset ( it's quite straightforward if you find the right one for your device )
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Thank you for your reply.
The strangest of all is that everything JUST happened !
I mean no gradual change !
I love HTC but I'm deeply disappointed right now.
Have you tried factory reset ? If your phone is in warranty visit a nearby service center and if your phone is rooted install BBS and post dumpfile.
rajkatiyar07 said:
Have you tried factory reset ? If your phone is in warranty visit a nearby service center and if your phone is rooted install BBS and post dumpfile.
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In his OP he says he did a factory reset.
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I would download accubattery app and see where your battery is at. I bought my device when it came out and I'm down to 81% unfortunately now.
Are you rooted, S-OFF or anything like that?
I would run a full wipe RUU
andybones said:
In his OP he says he did a factory reset.
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I would download accubattery app and see where your battery is at. I bought my device when it came out and I'm down to 81% unfortunately now.
Are you rooted, S-OFF or anything like that?
I would run a full wipe RUU
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Gsam would most likely be the better option to see what exactly is the thing causing the battery drain
bilibox said:
Gsam would most likely be the better option to see what exactly is the thing causing the battery drain
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Better?
Who's to say.
No reason both can't be used.
OP does say "I checked battery usage details and the results were shocking:
Android OS 55%
Android system 24%
Phone idle 11%
Only 1 app had used the battery and it was:
Telegram 1%"
Which is why I suggest to see the battery health.
Recently bought a brand new S20+ 5G Exynos and it's running the latest March Security Patch update for Android 11. Problem is, after successfully rooting and killing off some of the ****ty bloatware that Samsung is obsessed to ship with it's Smartphones like Bixby, Samsung cloud, samsung games, pass, and much much more, my S20+ is losing single digit after every few minutes of just bare minimum usage like Browsing through apps, opening a simple utility or app or just wandering through the Settings Menu. I said it BARE MINIMUM since these activities do not cost so much pressure on the battery as running videos, games, installing and deleting and things alike. As I said, I turned off all the unncessary things like GPS, Display Brightness set to almost 20-30%, using BREVENT to keep all the background memory clear off of the background apps. I am not running any games, videos for that matter but my battery consistently losing a digit after every 8 mins I would say on these bare minimum activities. Sometimes even opening the screen and just scrolling through the app drawer drops 2 digits within 10 minutes. I set the display pixels to the lowest minimum and also disable the 125 Hz display smoothness effect.
I read in some posts that since Android 11, many users complained about constant and persisting battery drainage across multiple smartphone brands including Google Pixel users..
I am thinking of reverting back to Android 10 for my S20+. What do you people suggest?
What process/app is draining battery?
digitaljeff said:
What process/app is draining battery?
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As I said, nothing special in the Battery Usage as well. All the main components like Display and other multiple core system services are hardly using 2% and below.
if you used a backup to setup the phone (smart switch etc) this can cause battery drain. this is my personal experience. if you dont have 5g in your area disable it aswell.
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if you used a backup to setup the phone (smart switch etc) this can cause battery drain. this is my personal experience. if you dont have 5g in your area disable it as well.
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I did not use Smart Switch. It came fresh out of the box. My brother sent it to me from Saudi Arabia. I just reflashed it with the Android 11 KSA Stock Rom and simply rooted it. Also disable Bixby **** and other unwanted Sammy Bloatware.
Yes, I do not have 5G currently in my area and my country as a whole except some 5G Trials.
How to disable 5G???
BTW I charged my Phone and I turned WIFI OFF. It just stayed there and I picked up the phone and just opened it and just used it for a couple of seconds and the battery came down from 99 to 97% on just simple Unlock and simple APP DRAWER browsing with WIFI Being off all this time.
Then I just opened the camera and took a couple of selfie shots and battery came down from 96% to 94% in just 2 mins. WiFi is still off. Only Sim card is active.
noob_coder said:
I did not use Smart Switch. It came fresh out of the box. My brother sent it to me from Saudi Arabia. I just reflashed it with the Android 11 KSA Stock Rom and simply rooted it. Also disable Bixby **** and other unwanted Sammy Bloatware.
Yes, I do not have 5G currently in my area and my country as a whole except some 5G Trials.
How to disable 5G???
BTW I charged my Phone and I turned WIFI OFF. It just stayed there and I picked up the phone and just opened it and just used it for a couple of seconds and the battery came down from 99 to 97% on just simple Unlock and simple APP DRAWER browsing with WIFI Being off all this time.
Then I just opened the camera and took a couple of selfie shots and battery came down from 96% to 94% in just 2 mins. WiFi is still off. Only Sim card is active.
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has to be some service that you disabled that is needed for some other sh** from Samsung.
If I were you, I would start all again, flashing the rom, test it without rooting it... see how much is the battery drain like that.... Try that method for removing the apps thru ADB connection without root, it works (search it here in xda)
Hi all.
I have just got a s22, live in UK
Battery drain, overnight is about 20%. I have disabled 5G, but not much improvement. Is this a defective unit? I'm on Vodafone. I'm still in return window.
Thanks for the advice
Exynos? If so try turning off WiFi, also did you set up with smart switch?
Yes , is exynos. WiFi, is on, while at home, as it should be
scorpionar said:
Yes , is exynos. WiFi, is on, while at home, as it should be
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WiFi drains battery whilst phone is off on exynos
skinza said:
WiFi drains battery whilst phone is off on exynos
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I have the Exynos version as well, but I don't recognize this statement. Over night, I lose about 6% with wifi, location and bluetooth on.
Do you have adaptive battery turned on? Maybe that helps for you.
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I have the Exynos version as well, but I don't recognize this statement. Over night, I lose about 6% with wifi, location and bluetooth on.
Do you have adaptive battery turned on? Maybe that helps for you.
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It's well known but may have been fixed, only other thing I could think of is if he used to smart switch to set up the phone
@skinza
It has been fixed in recent updates.
However drain is still significant but not caused by WiFi now.
As you can see Android+Kernel drains over 30% of my battery. Is it normal in recent Android versions?
Maciek602 said:
@skinza
It has been fixed in recent updates.
However drain is still significant but not caused by WiFi now.
As you can see Android+Kernel drains over 30% of my battery. Is it normal in recent Android versions?
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Did you use smart switch to set up the phone?
skinza said:
Did you use smart switch to set up the phone?
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Unfortunately yes... From iPhone.
Maciek602 said:
Unfortunately yes... From iPhone.
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That's most likely your issue then, another known problem is using smart switch, best off starting fresh and transferring files manually, I used mobile trans app
Need it on both phones
I gave up a 2-month fight with S22 yesterday. I won't do a tester for Samsung for so much money. I returned to the S21U and today I am as happy with the battery life as ever!
I was gonna throw in the towel but now I'm getting 7h sot on 5g and 8-9 WiFi currently at 5h42 with 45% left been watching moves since 100%
Super happy now, but I'm scared to root having to wipe everything I do t wanna lose my battery sd variant
Try to flash firmware with Odin.
skinza said:
I was gonna throw in the towel but now I'm getting 7h sot on 5g and 8-9 WiFi currently at 5h42 with 45% left been watching moves since 100%
Super happy now, but I'm scared to root having to wipe everything I do t wanna lose my battery sd variant
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When the display is switched on, the phone discharges more slowly than when the display is switched off!
efkosk said:
When the display is switched on, the phone discharges more slowly than when the display is switched off!
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That's so s*** don't blame you for ditching it
skinza said:
Exynos? If so try turning off WiFi, also did you set up with smart switch?
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If he is on 2nd April update or above, the Wi-Fi drain issue was fixed.
However, now we have Bluetooth drain! But Samsung is aware and is planning a fix for the following update (or maybe later)
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If he is on 2nd April update or above, the Wi-Fi drain issue was fixed.
However, now we have Bluetooth drain! But Samsung is aware and is planning a fix for the following update (or maybe later)
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Exactly! I have noticed that Bluetooth drains a lot. How do you know that they're preparing update for it?
Maciek602 said:
Exactly! I have noticed that Bluetooth drains a lot. How do you know that they're preparing update for it?
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Because I'm the one who made the report, they found the issue using my report and told me they were gonna fix it next update or should I say "Fixed normally in a next update whose date is not specified" this is word for word what they told me
skinza said:
I was gonna throw in the towel but now I'm getting 7h sot on 5g and 8-9 WiFi currently at 5h42 with 45% left been watching moves since 100%
Super happy now, but I'm scared to root having to wipe everything I do t wanna lose my battery sd variant
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7-9 hrs SOT? Jesus. How on earth are you getting that. I too am on S22 SD variant. I consider myself lucky if I make it beyond 3 hours SOT
syedtahir16 said:
7-9 hrs SOT? Jesus. How on earth are you getting that. I too am on S22 SD variant. I consider myself lucky if I make it beyond 3 hours SOT
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Tbh it kind of came out of know where
I updated to the xxv Vietnamese firmware for may update as it said it had stability fixes (AVDF) where as mine xsa Australia (AVDD) said only security, I flashed my csc though
Did a battery recalibration and it hit abother level
Adaptive battery on
All apps to sleep except fb, messenger, and emails etc
Got rid of all the bloatware I don't need
Used the galaxy app booster after updating
Manual brightness at roughly 50%
Adaptive display but 120 - 30hz instead of 48
A heap of bixby routines so I can keep location bt and nfc off till needed etc
Galaxy max hz app so phone sleeps as soon as it's off as well as changing Adaptive display while powersaving mode but changed it so 96hz - 30
I'm contemplating rooting but scared I'm gonna lose my good battery life after resetting